Anyone working remote without telling your employer?

Landed a solid remote job in a financial banking company. I’m thinking to jump ship to Thailand and keep working. What are the odds they will catch me? Anyone tried this any tips? I’ll be fucking rich in Thailand with this job. I’m going for it I don’t give a fuck. Any help tips appreciated. I leave in 3 months, already booked. Hope I don’t get caught

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    LARP thread, you don't have a "solid job in a banking company".

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck off loser I have a fake CV that says otherwise

      Do you need to use a company issued laptop or phone? Those change the equation.

      Yeah I do. But I’m going to install a VPN and even if I can’t I’m still going for it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >But I’m going to install a VPN
        lmao.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You know this is a larp because every self respecting company (especially banks and financial institutions) have VPNs by default to access their intranet

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes they do. I wanted another VPN to hide my location you techlet boomer

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >financial banking

      Financial banking kek this frogposter writes the dumbest shit but these retards lap it up

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Stupid comment. I don’t know why he would be larping.

      Financial sector has literally tens of thousands of different roles, I’ve got a few friends that work in fraud prevention for example, another that deals with a dedicated support line for business customers. It’s a shockingly very easy industry to get into.

      https://i.imgur.com/BqDS2ry.jpg

      Landed a solid remote job in a financial banking company. I’m thinking to jump ship to Thailand and keep working. What are the odds they will catch me? Anyone tried this any tips? I’ll be fucking rich in Thailand with this job. I’m going for it I don’t give a fuck. Any help tips appreciated. I leave in 3 months, already booked. Hope I don’t get caught

      I’ve not done it myself, but I’ve made enquiries with the right people in relation to this as it was something that I am still considering doing.

      First thing you need to know is that if your boss was to find out, even if you were a long term member of staff, you’d likely be instantly terminated from your role.

      There’s legal and financial implications to an employee working in another country that the company needs to assess and account for in many ways as well as a variety of other things. Realistically, for an individual, these things shouldn’t matter; but corporations will always take these very seriously.

      You know this is a larp because every self respecting company (especially banks and financial institutions) have VPNs by default to access their intranet

      VPN that is tied directly to the company’s IT department. You want a second VPN to mimic your home country. That’s what he’s implying.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can literally get a decent paying job in fraud prevention on the first year of Econ or any finance related degree.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do you need to use a company issued laptop or phone? Those change the equation.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I want to do that but my only problem is that I have to keep my work mabile phone on me and receive calls on it.

    They pay the bills so they'll definetly see it if i'm overcharged, do you know any solution for this problem?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No clue. I got my own problems lol.. my advice is fuck it just do it. I’ll never let a cuck company tell me where i can go and I’ll never ask permission to live

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Keep your primary phone at home. Buy another line at abroad and connect two phones somehow (there must be some apps to do this). Then call your abroad phone via your primary phone when someone calls you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Twilio? Skype maybe?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      WIFI calling? Its free. I used my own phone in Mexico, but when I made calls it just gave my area code.

      Good luck Anon. I did it for a few months without anyone knowing, but I 'm back in the office half time. I don't think I'd get in trouble even if they did catch me but they don't need to know my business.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do whatever the fuck you want. Just be aware as “remote work” filth, you’re disposable trash (even more so than regular IT), and will be the first to be fired if anyone notices you at all.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Echoing ...
      It's easy for your company to cut their losses and terminate your employment.
      -You're new.
      -You haven't proven performance.
      -You've demonstrated poor judgment
      -The next in line/runner up of the interview process will get your job.

      https://i.imgur.com/BqDS2ry.jpg

      Landed a solid remote job in a financial banking company. I’m thinking to jump ship to Thailand and keep working. What are the odds they will catch me? Anyone tried this any tips? I’ll be fucking rich in Thailand with this job. I’m going for it I don’t give a fuck. Any help tips appreciated. I leave in 3 months, already booked. Hope I don’t get caught

      Beware: Don't do it.

      1) You've landed a new job, and you're positioning things like you're fortunate.
      Thailand or not, why ruin a good thing without any plans/framework?

      2) Review your contract.
      I doubt there's anything in your contract about needing to work within X distance from your office in case RTO is announced, but that leads me to...

      3) Ask your new colleagues.
      Stealthily inquire about their current work situations. Understandably, you'll have to ask peers who are in a similar role/scenario as you.

      4) Ask your supervisor/manage if you can work from the next time zone over (Say you're helping your wife's boyfriend after they were discharged from the hospital) and see what their reaction is like.

      5) Test your technical restrictions.
      Internet connections come in different shapes and sizes. This is made tricky/worse with longer distances introducing more hops/latency/blah
      Depending on how your VPN is connected, your access might stick out like a sore thumb, and you'll be found out in less than a day.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >But I’m going to install a VPN
        lmao.

        Do whatever the fuck you want. Just be aware as “remote work” filth, you’re disposable trash (even more so than regular IT), and will be the first to be fired if anyone notices you at all.

        This is something I am attempting to do as well. Seems to me that one of the best things to do is run a VPN off of a router rather than the work computer so that the program doesn’t get detected. After that I believe it is dependent on a number of other factors for how the company tracks VPNs. Try to do some digging into the properties of your company IT setup.

        Looks like their tracking device locations via a program called Sophos

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >(Say you're helping your wife's boyfriend after they were discharged from the hospital) and see what their reaction is like.

        Employers reaction "cuck detected"

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If they fire me I’m just gonna throw their equipment into the nearest dumpster and proceed to spam and incoming emails

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why is everyone so upset at OP? Jealously seeth posting is quite hilarious. Y'all should be happy for him.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Risking good/new employment based on a possibly crappy and/or ignorant hunch? I think it's safe to say that the job market/economy isn't great.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      bro nobody's upset, most people are laughing that he thinks he'll get away with it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Risking good/new employment based on a possibly crappy and/or ignorant hunch? I think it's safe to say that the job market/economy isn't great.

        I've been doing it for a year. Like they care lol.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          In what field of work? I work for a large corporation I doubt they check there’s fuck tons of people but idk

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks dude. That’s because this board is larp and most don’t travel because their too obese to get out of the pc chair

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is something I am attempting to do as well. Seems to me that one of the best things to do is run a VPN off of a router rather than the work computer so that the program doesn’t get detected. After that I believe it is dependent on a number of other factors for how the company tracks VPNs. Try to do some digging into the properties of your company IT setup.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I was looking into travel routers; the only issue I found was it significantly drops the MBPS

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Your company VPN if it’s at all decent will be able to tell your router is routing traffic through another IP associated with a separate VPN and reject you for tunneling

      You know this is a larp because every self respecting company (especially banks and financial institutions) have VPNs by default to access their intranet

      This

      Stupid comment. I don’t know why he would be larping.

      Financial sector has literally tens of thousands of different roles, I’ve got a few friends that work in fraud prevention for example, another that deals with a dedicated support line for business customers. It’s a shockingly very easy industry to get into.

      [...]
      I’ve not done it myself, but I’ve made enquiries with the right people in relation to this as it was something that I am still considering doing.

      First thing you need to know is that if your boss was to find out, even if you were a long term member of staff, you’d likely be instantly terminated from your role.

      There’s legal and financial implications to an employee working in another country that the company needs to assess and account for in many ways as well as a variety of other things. Realistically, for an individual, these things shouldn’t matter; but corporations will always take these very seriously.

      [...]
      VPN that is tied directly to the company’s IT department. You want a second VPN to mimic your home country. That’s what he’s implying.

      Not possible with modern company VPNs if you work for company that all knows what they’re doing info sec wise. Financial companies and healthcare companies do not play games with this kind of shit because it opens them up to very expensive lawsuits

      Any decent sized company will have a security operations team (SoC) who will be monitoring where people log in from
      I'm assuming you'll need to connect to your company VPN to actually do your work so they will find out, when I popped over to Spain for a couple of weeks the SoC messaged me asking me to confirm where I am just so they knew the laptop hadn't been stolen
      Once I explained they were fine with it and told me to just let them know if I'll be working abroad in the future

      Your company WILL have a remote working policy, check the documentation and it'll give you an insight into your options. It could say you have to work within your country of employment or, like mine, could be more lax and say words to the effect of "it's the responsibility of the employee to work out tax ect in regards to where they work from"

      In any case if you've JUST started this job I'd give it half a year to establish yourself and get past your probation period before you do this

      This

      Yes they do. I wanted another VPN to hide my location you techlet boomer

      Doesn’t work

      If you have a work vpn or if it’s a big company and they have geo blocking configured on their Microsoft accounts you will be pretty fucked.
      I tried this earlier this year and got abroad only to find out I couldn’t even login to my work outlook email without being on a vpn with my region set to the US. This worked for my Microsoft account but we also have a company VPN for accessing internal sites and data, this is what fucked me. Couldn’t get on it even with my personal VPN connected as well, the company VPN could tell I was tunneling through another and rejected my connection attempts. I ended up having to play dumb and ask my boss if he was cool with me working abroad for awhile after I had already gotten there. Luckily he was but our info sec team still bitched about it constantly cuz they have to whitelist IPs for me (which constantly change unless you can get a static one, which will be nearly impossible abroad).
      Long story short, if you do all of your work through Microsoft or gmail email you might be fine, if you have a company VPN you are probably fucked and will have to come clean. If that’s the case I would probably tell them ahead of time rather than look like a dumbass and go without telling them hoping they don’t fire you.

      Read my experience you most likely will not get away with this unfortunately. The only reason I did was because I’ve been at my company for over two years and they can’t afford to lose me, plus my manager is hella chill

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Any decent sized company will have a security operations team (SoC) who will be monitoring where people log in from
    I'm assuming you'll need to connect to your company VPN to actually do your work so they will find out, when I popped over to Spain for a couple of weeks the SoC messaged me asking me to confirm where I am just so they knew the laptop hadn't been stolen
    Once I explained they were fine with it and told me to just let them know if I'll be working abroad in the future

    Your company WILL have a remote working policy, check the documentation and it'll give you an insight into your options. It could say you have to work within your country of employment or, like mine, could be more lax and say words to the effect of "it's the responsibility of the employee to work out tax ect in regards to where they work from"

    In any case if you've JUST started this job I'd give it half a year to establish yourself and get past your probation period before you do this

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I’m giving it 4 months that’s decent I think. I’m already solid performance wise. I might try team viewer and leave the device here if that won’t work then I’ll try to install a vpn on the device but I don’t really want to do that because they could easily detect it. Last option I’m going to try a travel router. I can’t seem to find the companies travel policy I’ve been looking for it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Team viewer is a big no-no. It's likely forbidden by the bank IT team and will be detected immediately by their client software, even assuming you can install it.

        Travel router could work, assuming it's 4/5G and you have a local SIM card. You are of course going to VPN from it into your own house network and work from there?

        You likely can have only 1 VPN session per device.

        [...]
        [...]
        [...]
        Looks like their tracking device locations via a program called Sophos

        Sophos is an old AV company. Yes, if you use the router with a VPN option, you'll avoid it

        The obvious elephant in the room is the time zone change. It is huge and you will be working non-stop throughout the night.

        Thanks dude but won’t the router fuck the internet mbps? I need a minimum of 50 mbps. I’m gonna buy a travel router this seems to be the only way to do this

        You do not need a minimum speed of 50mbps. 10 would be fine.

        If you have a work vpn or if it’s a big company and they have geo blocking configured on their Microsoft accounts you will be pretty fucked.
        I tried this earlier this year and got abroad only to find out I couldn’t even login to my work outlook email without being on a vpn with my region set to the US. This worked for my Microsoft account but we also have a company VPN for accessing internal sites and data, this is what fucked me. Couldn’t get on it even with my personal VPN connected as well, the company VPN could tell I was tunneling through another and rejected my connection attempts. I ended up having to play dumb and ask my boss if he was cool with me working abroad for awhile after I had already gotten there. Luckily he was but our info sec team still bitched about it constantly cuz they have to whitelist IPs for me (which constantly change unless you can get a static one, which will be nearly impossible abroad).
        Long story short, if you do all of your work through Microsoft or gmail email you might be fine, if you have a company VPN you are probably fucked and will have to come clean. If that’s the case I would probably tell them ahead of time rather than look like a dumbass and go without telling them hoping they don’t fire you.

        Yes, he need to have a VPN server in his current home and VPN into it. Otherwise all sorts of flags go up.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Yes, he need to have a VPN server in his current home and VPN into it.

          So does that mean you would have to maintain a home in the US in addition to finding housing abroad? As in, you would literally have to pay for two residences simultaneously?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Just keep it at your parents’ or your sister’s place or something

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I asked my manager and they literally said they don’t know. They also said they don’t know if IT would catch me or not. Fuck it I’m just gonna do it. None of the training manuals have a travel policy and I can’t find the policy on google. So if they catch me I’ll simply say no one said I couldn’t I guess

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Before COVID happened and remote working became mainstream, this used to be pretty common. Most companies didn't know/care about the legal implications of having people working from other places. I did it a bunch pre-COVID-- including for longer time periods. After COVID, I'm with a new employer (in finance industry), and I've done it, but it's been for shorter times, and I've been more sneaky about it (i.e. not telling anyone I was working from abroad). My advice would be to go for it, but you should shouldn't tell anyone, and you should give your employer plausible deniability by using a VPN. When you set up the VPN, do not set it up on the laptop. Set it up on the router that the laptop connects to. Buy a dedicated router for this. Good luck! Have fun!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks dude but won’t the router fuck the internet mbps? I need a minimum of 50 mbps. I’m gonna buy a travel router this seems to be the only way to do this

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        WTF is travel router?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It’s just a smaller router. Search travel router on Amazon. You can’t lug a giant router around dude. It has a built in VPN you can set up your vpn service through

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Ok.. have fun with your little cuckbox (verification not required)

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Cuck box lmao stfu dude I gotta do it but I might try a raspberry pi instead

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Thanks dude but won’t the router fuck the internet mbps? I need a minimum of 50 mbps.
        It is going to decrease bandwidth, but, unless you have some very specific requirement, you probably don't need 50 mbps for your work shit. What makes you think you need that much?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          According to HR. But their probably idiots it’s probably more like 25. I’ll just test it. I might buy a raspberry pi instead. It seems more efficient. Do you know if a raspberry pi is faster mbps wise?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They probably want to make sure you're not using a satellite internet connection of a 3G dongle or something. A RPi should be okay. The RPi can connect to wifi wherever you are, and you can connect to the RPi via a wired connection. The RPi can then route your traffic through a VPN. You should, of course, test this before you go.

            I don't know what your work setup looks like, but I suspect that latency will be more of an issue than bandwidth. The extra 100-200 ms of latency to go from one side of the world to the other might be problematic.

            Technical things aside, have you thought about the time difference? If your job is on the east coast, you'll have a 12 hour time difference if you're in Thailand. I did six hours time difference for a while, and there were occasional annoyances, but I can't imagine how annoyed I would be if I had to sit through a mandatory HR training from 3 AM to 4 AM on a Saturday morning.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              If you have a work vpn or if it’s a big company and they have geo blocking configured on their Microsoft accounts you will be pretty fucked.
              I tried this earlier this year and got abroad only to find out I couldn’t even login to my work outlook email without being on a vpn with my region set to the US. This worked for my Microsoft account but we also have a company VPN for accessing internal sites and data, this is what fucked me. Couldn’t get on it even with my personal VPN connected as well, the company VPN could tell I was tunneling through another and rejected my connection attempts. I ended up having to play dumb and ask my boss if he was cool with me working abroad for awhile after I had already gotten there. Luckily he was but our info sec team still bitched about it constantly cuz they have to whitelist IPs for me (which constantly change unless you can get a static one, which will be nearly impossible abroad).
              Long story short, if you do all of your work through Microsoft or gmail email you might be fine, if you have a company VPN you are probably fucked and will have to come clean. If that’s the case I would probably tell them ahead of time rather than look like a dumbass and go without telling them hoping they don’t fire you.

              I could careless about time. I can handle any schedule. All I’m worried about is the damn VPN. I’m worried I’ll get region locked out or something. I guess I’ll have to buy the pi and when I’m not at work I’m going to test it. Otherwise I’m just going to go and play the victim, I’ll just say my fiancées mother is sick and dying or something so I had to go to Thailand to support her. But I’m definitely not going to ask for permissions either way I’m going anyway if they fire me idc.

              If you have a work vpn or if it’s a big company and they have geo blocking configured on their Microsoft accounts you will be pretty fucked.
              I tried this earlier this year and got abroad only to find out I couldn’t even login to my work outlook email without being on a vpn with my region set to the US. This worked for my Microsoft account but we also have a company VPN for accessing internal sites and data, this is what fucked me. Couldn’t get on it even with my personal VPN connected as well, the company VPN could tell I was tunneling through another and rejected my connection attempts. I ended up having to play dumb and ask my boss if he was cool with me working abroad for awhile after I had already gotten there. Luckily he was but our info sec team still bitched about it constantly cuz they have to whitelist IPs for me (which constantly change unless you can get a static one, which will be nearly impossible abroad).
              Long story short, if you do all of your work through Microsoft or gmail email you might be fine, if you have a company VPN you are probably fucked and will have to come clean. If that’s the case I would probably tell them ahead of time rather than look like a dumbass and go without telling them hoping they don’t fire you.

              All we use is the company intranet on a Remote Desktop. It’s Microsoft Remote Desktop I believe. It’s set to US East when I click it but I’m not even from US East. I don’t think I’ll get region locked if the pi is set to usa. I guess I’ll have to test the RPI and see if it locks me out. I’ll have to set it to Thailand once and see if it opens or anything happens and if the company spergs I’ll just say oh sorry I had my vpn turned in on my local device and play stupid. I guess I just need to do alot of testing. I’m decently tech savvy

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It’s an all In one Lenovo monitor desktop. And we use Microsoft outlook and Microsoft Remote Desktop. I don’t see anything that says it’s locked to any particular region

                I don’t think they can region lock me out with the RPI becahse even if I’m in Thailand my VPN will be set to my usa location therefore the region lock wouldn’t take. Hopefully I’m right

                That’s the whole point of the RPI to set a vpn to usa therefore Microsoft wouldn’t be able to detect I’m in Thailand and it would avoid the region lock. That’s the entire point of the router

                You keep emphasizing 'Region Lock'

                1) Will your connections appear to come from the correct local region?

                2) Will your connections come from the same source?

                3) Will your connections come from a residential ISP?

                You'll pass a plain region lock test, but you'll fail everything else when the network/security/access team pulls on a thread.

                Ask sighsee, and they'll probably come to the same conclusion.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Idk I think I’ll be fine. Highly doubt anyones paying attention and if I get caught I’ll play the victim and make up some shit like my girlfriends black father is dying from sicko cell so if they fire me they look Racist I’m sure they’ll cower

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I already warned him above it almost certainly won’t work, especially not for a financial company, but hopefully we’ll get an update thread in a couple months so I can gloat about it

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It’s an all In one Lenovo monitor desktop. And we use Microsoft outlook and Microsoft Remote Desktop. I don’t see anything that says it’s locked to any particular region

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I will second this anon, my company in august decided to make everyone hybrid (we were fully remote for all of 2020-july2022) and they decreed you have to come in one or two days aweek I decided to take a 2 week vacation in thailand just before they announced the change and then made up excuses for why I couldnt be in the office for an extra 3 weeks and worked remotely in thailand for that time. So I spent almost 60 days in thailand which was basically the limit on a tourist visa for an american. the hardest part was the time difference, working east coast hours 8am - 5pm is basically 6pm-3am thai time. It is ok for a couple of weeks as I did it, but I wouldnt wanna do it permanently.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                where did you go in Thailand?
                I'm a night owl, and places like Pattaya are night oriented anyway. You could sleep late, get up and fuck around, hit some bars and have a few drinks or whatever, then go back home for a 2AM meeting 🙂
                I know you probably know this, but Visa runs are the standard method of getting around the time limits. Leave for a day over to Cambodia or Vietnam, reset the clock and start over with the time limit + extension.
                Until early next year, the standard 30 day limit has been extended to 45 days.

                Thailand has a lot of retarded policies. They actively don't want people to visit for very long, which is weird when you consider how much they are known for tourism. If they want a higher class of expats and longer term visitors, they need to make it feasible for people. But they don't want that.
                A 6 month or 1 year Visa would be ideal. They could charge something reasonable like $1000 or whatever to keep poorfags from becoming beach bums and sticking around forever, and they would fill that sweet spot between 2 week vacationers and full on retirement visas. The Elite Visa is like 26K+ lol fuck that.
                I think a ton of guys would make use of a reasonable longer tourist visa, but they will never do it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >26K
                I meant 16K.. but still retarded

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yea when I got there in august I just showed immigration my round trip ticket leaving 59 days later and they just gave me a 60day stamp so I never did anything extra in terms of a visa run. I was there all august and sept and I stayed in bangkok half the time, then hua hin and pattaya the other half. Bangkok was fine for the city vibe and visiting museums/temples . Pattaya was EXTREMELY quiet,It was never crowded/packed anywhere I went. I imagine their tourism industry may take YEARS to recover , insane watching all the videos from 2019 and etc of how crowded everywhere was and then actually going there in 2022 and only the terminal 21 and walking street had any real crowds. a older milf thai off one of those soi's legitimately cried happily after I entered her place because she said no one had come in for 5 days. EVERYWHERE had 5-10-15 ladies waiting outside or sitting at bars and basically one or two old boomers sitting in a corner lol. Bangkok atleast was crowded with normal thai people living there.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you have a work vpn or if it’s a big company and they have geo blocking configured on their Microsoft accounts you will be pretty fucked.
    I tried this earlier this year and got abroad only to find out I couldn’t even login to my work outlook email without being on a vpn with my region set to the US. This worked for my Microsoft account but we also have a company VPN for accessing internal sites and data, this is what fucked me. Couldn’t get on it even with my personal VPN connected as well, the company VPN could tell I was tunneling through another and rejected my connection attempts. I ended up having to play dumb and ask my boss if he was cool with me working abroad for awhile after I had already gotten there. Luckily he was but our info sec team still bitched about it constantly cuz they have to whitelist IPs for me (which constantly change unless you can get a static one, which will be nearly impossible abroad).
    Long story short, if you do all of your work through Microsoft or gmail email you might be fine, if you have a company VPN you are probably fucked and will have to come clean. If that’s the case I would probably tell them ahead of time rather than look like a dumbass and go without telling them hoping they don’t fire you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      We use outlook for email btw

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        I could careless about time. I can handle any schedule. All I’m worried about is the damn VPN. I’m worried I’ll get region locked out or something. I guess I’ll have to buy the pi and when I’m not at work I’m going to test it. Otherwise I’m just going to go and play the victim, I’ll just say my fiancées mother is sick and dying or something so I had to go to Thailand to support her. But I’m definitely not going to ask for permissions either way I’m going anyway if they fire me idc.
        [...]
        All we use is the company intranet on a Remote Desktop. It’s Microsoft Remote Desktop I believe. It’s set to US East when I click it but I’m not even from US East. I don’t think I’ll get region locked if the pi is set to usa. I guess I’ll have to test the RPI and see if it locks me out. I’ll have to set it to Thailand once and see if it opens or anything happens and if the company spergs I’ll just say oh sorry I had my vpn turned in on my local device and play stupid. I guess I just need to do alot of testing. I’m decently tech savvy

        At the very least test setting a vpn to Thailand sign out of your computer shut it down and then restart it and try to sign in and access outlook. You will be able to tell pretty quickly if they have geo location setup which I’m sure they do if it’s a banking company.
        I don’t know if Remote Desktop will care where you’re accessing from. If you have a company vpn you connect to before Remote Desktop that will definitely care.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No there’s no company VPN it’s just clicking Microsoft remote client. Clicking the US East pc icon and ur on the remote.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I don’t think they can region lock me out with the RPI becahse even if I’m in Thailand my VPN will be set to my usa location therefore the region lock wouldn’t take. Hopefully I’m right

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That’s the whole point of the RPI to set a vpn to usa therefore Microsoft wouldn’t be able to detect I’m in Thailand and it would avoid the region lock. That’s the entire point of the router

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You could have avoided all of this with just a

      https://i.imgur.com/BldRFnb.jpg

      travel router..

      1. Get a VPN based out of your home country and use it while working there to test the waters.
      2. Then just connect your hotel WIFI abroad to the travel Router (connected to your home VPN)
      3. Connect your work laptop t the travel router and then to your work VPN.

      Boom problem solved, all that the "security" team are going to see is you connecting from the same VPN you've been using months prior.

      I'd say the hardest thing about all this bullshit is going to be the timezone and taking video calls when it's daytime back at home and you're in a dark room.

      Your company VPN if it’s at all decent will be able to tell your router is routing traffic through another IP associated with a separate VPN and reject you for tunneling
      [...]
      This
      [...]
      Not possible with modern company VPNs if you work for company that all knows what they’re doing info sec wise. Financial companies and healthcare companies do not play games with this kind of shit because it opens them up to very expensive lawsuits
      [...]
      This
      [...]
      Doesn’t work
      [...]
      Read my experience you most likely will not get away with this unfortunately. The only reason I did was because I’ve been at my company for over two years and they can’t afford to lose me, plus my manager is hella chill

      > will be able to tell your router is routing traffic through another IP associated with a separate VPN and reject you for tunneling

      Complete bullshit, please explain how this is detectable.. even if so, this is configurable on the router surely.

      Makes sense and kinda based but I do it anyway because if you just clam up, how many amazing friendships or relationships would you miss out on?

      I have noticed it’s like I’m the only one with a life though

      It's not the case all of the time, In my company I actually did make some really good mates and friendships and they all have their own lives outside of work.

      But I once worked for a Canadian start up fully remote and it was fucking torture. Some of the US tech companies and especially FAANG types are just filled with slave code monkeys or poojeets on $300k+ but blowing fucking $10k just on rent because they force you to be hybrid at best.

      It's a fucking sham, save and invest and once you think you've got enough that will compound so that you are sorted for retirement, leave that shit and pursue LIFE.

      I'm literally quitting in March, doing a TEFL and taking a few years out to travel, 4 years spent in the cage and £325k invested. gg.

      To make a long story short, it has to do with tax liability and cybersecurity. If you live more than 6 months in most countries, that means you have to pay taxes to them, and most companies can't be bothered to deal with this for you. Many companies will turn a blind eye, but financial services companies are especially careful about this.

      Cybersecurity is a concern when moving around abroad, as you may be accessing and transmitting sensitive data on an insecure network. You can't know if the WiFi in that random hole in the wall cafe in Venice you've taken your laptop to is properly secured. Also, many companies will track where you're accessing stuff from, to watch out for poojeet and Russian hackers. This is also why companies with half a brain won't let you log in to company networks from VPNs.

      Russian hackers are like modern day privateers; their government gives them de facto permission to wage low-intensity warfare on America by theft, so lots of unscrupulous people have the opportunity to make fortunes they wouldn't have anywhere else. They aren't prosecuted for going after American companies, so we have to remain vigilant about where people are accessing our infrastructure from.

      [...]
      Yeah, like I said, it's a bunch of miserable Amazon fucks. Definitely won't make the same mistake again. I'm gonna ask her out now that I'm out of there, and tell the girl it was a second job for me and I was using it to fund my travel, lol.

      I think it would have been a mistake to ask her out while we worked together, don't want to put myself through sanctimonious HR sexual harassment bullshit.

      Tax residency is another reason why this and digital nomadism in general just is a shit plan long term.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It’s not bullshit, my work security team literally caught me doing this and has software that will check if an IP address is legit or if it’s known to be a vpn. I don’t know how it works but it’s possible because it literally happened to me and I’ve seen the screenshots from their 3rd party software when they have to approve my new IPs abroad. They have to individually whitelist each IP I connect from that are out of North America.
        Explain how a travel router would even login to company intranet VPN. Yeah no shit it would work to connect to from abroad, the issue is your travel router staying connected to the work network.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Explain how a travel router would even login to company intranet VPN.
          The travel router doesn't log in to company VPN. The travel router logs in to another VPN service that has an exit point in the US. Then, your laptop connects to the travel router, which tunnels all traffic through the VPN, and your laptop connects to work VPN. Work sees you VPN connection as coming from the US.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah what this guy said:

          >Explain how a travel router would even login to company intranet VPN.
          The travel router doesn't log in to company VPN. The travel router logs in to another VPN service that has an exit point in the US. Then, your laptop connects to the travel router, which tunnels all traffic through the VPN, and your laptop connects to work VPN. Work sees you VPN connection as coming from the US.

          The only thing I can think of is that they don't want you using a known VPN IP provider and they blacklist those IP's. Sort of how certain sites stop registration from well known VPN providers.

          But you can test all this at home before leaving the country, like I mentioned in my steps.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Unless you're flush with job opportunities, don't do anything stupid unless you have a good idea of your work resources, the security team which manages everything, and your job requirements/day to day roles.

            You'll probably need to have a reserved IP address from a VPN resource.

            Even if you use an off the shelf VPN service which uses IP addresses that have never been detected nor used as a VPN, you'll get a connection in Florida one day, and then in Washington State when you reconnect.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              If you know what you're doing you can stand up your own VPN server on Linode, or Digital Ocean, or OVH, or whatever people like to use. Depending on provider, there might even be pre-configured appliances you can deploy. It requires a bit of knowledge, but you'll get a static IP, and, in my experience, it's faster and cheaper than commercial VPN service.

              A typical VPN service, whether its commercial or your own server running somewhere, is still going to have a non-residential IP address. A really strict company could complain about that.

              If you have family or friends back home who you trust, you could convince them to use a router that supports running a VPN server (and probably also some dynamic DNS service, so you don't lose it if the address changes).

              Alternatively, you could ask them to host a Raspberry Pi (or similar) on their network and run the VPN server there. Tailscale would be a really easy solution for this and avoid the need to deal with NAT or DNS. See: https://tailscale.com/kb/1103/exit-nodes/

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No, I definitely get that, and your post has validity.

                But overall, there are more than 90 posts from more than 30 posters, and there is definitely bad advice in this thread. It'd suck for someone to lose their job based on well meaning, yet half-baked advice.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you can log into company resources without having to use a company VPN, setting up your own should be all you need, right?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I was hired to be a remote software engineer earlier this year. It was a remote-first company with employees all over the world, so they were happy to look the other way when it comes to where I worked from.

    The problem was, I had a little work crush who I started doing projects with from day one. We would talk for hours about this and that even when we didn't have any reason to, on Friday afternoons even, just shooting the shit.

    I couldn't resist the temptation to brag about my travels to her, telling her about all the places I was going and the wild shit I had done. I had a ticket to a music festival in Barcelona that I had owned for the better part of a year, so one month after getting hired, I was working remotely from Europe. I fell in with a bunch of Brits and an Australian, so you already know I was doing drugs and getting shitfaced like every night. I would put bullshit meetings on my calendar Friday nights so that I could go out and party.

    This all resulted in me developing a reputation as an intemperate young person, a slacker, and a fool. Management was full of Amazon alumni, so naturally it was a bunch of miserable fucks who only care about slaving away to afford their overpriced mortgages in Redmond.

    Eventually, I missed one too many deadlines and was unceremoniously let go after like four months. It was mostly my fault, but they also gave a bunch of very complex projects to a guy with no experience, very little support from senior devs, and unrealistic expectations from an H1B poojeet product manager desperate to please his superiors in order not to get sent back to India. He was the first to turn on me once he saw which way the wind was blowing.

    tl;dr keep your shit to yourself, never let on that you're working from abroad. If I could go back, I'd be like a robot around my colleagues, and limit my dealings with them to business only.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Damn. Yea I absolutely plan to keep my mouth shut.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      At least that's a funny story.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're fucking retarded if you thought saying you had a life outside of work would be highly regarded by anyone, even your cunt of a crush. Most people in the tech sector have decided to settle down because they were out of options, and here you are saying you're free as a bird to a crowd of literal wageslaves whose only gratification is a monthly handjob from their fat wives/fiancees.
      Never tell people you have a good life. The only difference between them and your average, lonely sighseener is that they've never been to sighsee in the first place. They're envious fucks.
      And if you have a crush at work, either ask her out or don't talk to her about your personal stuff. It's the literal equivalent of disclosing your salary to a friend who's worked as a gas station clerk all his life.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Makes sense and kinda based but I do it anyway because if you just clam up, how many amazing friendships or relationships would you miss out on?

        I have noticed it’s like I’m the only one with a life though

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Rookie mistake, never think you’re friendly with coworkers or think you can trust them. Now you know.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'll let you know OP. I'm going to Italy for a while and we'll see if I get fired. I've worked abroad in Paraguay and Turkey since my company doesn't have a solid IT department and nobody cared since I was doing it for a week

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    another underused strategy is to literally leave your work laptop at your mom's house and just pi-KVM into it
    100% untrackable because there's nothing to track, and arguably you aren't even legally working from outside the country
    cons: have to convince your mom not to touch your weird computer box

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is probably the best answer, but I'd leave the system with someone who can supervise the system, network, and power.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wouldn't this fall apart the first time you were asked to put your webcam on during a call?
      Some companies can be properly anal about webcams on

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what would they notice? Just close the blinds and turn on a light.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          But the webcam would be from the laptop back home, so you wouldn't be able to get in front of it it would just show an empty room

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Can you take calls through this method?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Never mind you can’t so it’s not a good method for me

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Latency on this might be problematic. If he can leave hardware somewhere at "home", he could leave an RPi running tailscale or similar and use that as the exit point for a VPN connection. He'll then have a valid residential IP address.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but you can probably just set up a VPN server with your router already, so no need for the pi.
        You do definitely want a residential IP though, any VPN service will be flagged. And IP is only one component of location tracking, if you have WiFi on they'll know where you are too.
        Yeah you can disable WiFi, but then you start thinking about deep packet inspection and other ways a discheesed IT monkey could theoretically screw you. They wouldn't, but the thought always looms.
        IP-KVM is not a perfect solution if you work at a call center with a locked down IP phone or if your boss makes you use your work laptop for all your zoom calls. I'm not a digital nomad, but I've pulled it off for weeks at a time with no trouble.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why would they care where you are if it's a remote job?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Taxes and being COL garden gnomes

      If a worker makes a decent American salary but lives like a king in the Philippines, the person feels less reliant on the company to please and make rent etc

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      To make a long story short, it has to do with tax liability and cybersecurity. If you live more than 6 months in most countries, that means you have to pay taxes to them, and most companies can't be bothered to deal with this for you. Many companies will turn a blind eye, but financial services companies are especially careful about this.

      Cybersecurity is a concern when moving around abroad, as you may be accessing and transmitting sensitive data on an insecure network. You can't know if the WiFi in that random hole in the wall cafe in Venice you've taken your laptop to is properly secured. Also, many companies will track where you're accessing stuff from, to watch out for poojeet and Russian hackers. This is also why companies with half a brain won't let you log in to company networks from VPNs.

      Russian hackers are like modern day privateers; their government gives them de facto permission to wage low-intensity warfare on America by theft, so lots of unscrupulous people have the opportunity to make fortunes they wouldn't have anywhere else. They aren't prosecuted for going after American companies, so we have to remain vigilant about where people are accessing our infrastructure from.

      You're fucking retarded if you thought saying you had a life outside of work would be highly regarded by anyone, even your cunt of a crush. Most people in the tech sector have decided to settle down because they were out of options, and here you are saying you're free as a bird to a crowd of literal wageslaves whose only gratification is a monthly handjob from their fat wives/fiancees.
      Never tell people you have a good life. The only difference between them and your average, lonely sighseener is that they've never been to sighsee in the first place. They're envious fucks.
      And if you have a crush at work, either ask her out or don't talk to her about your personal stuff. It's the literal equivalent of disclosing your salary to a friend who's worked as a gas station clerk all his life.

      Yeah, like I said, it's a bunch of miserable Amazon fucks. Definitely won't make the same mistake again. I'm gonna ask her out now that I'm out of there, and tell the girl it was a second job for me and I was using it to fund my travel, lol.

      I think it would have been a mistake to ask her out while we worked together, don't want to put myself through sanctimonious HR sexual harassment bullshit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Good luck on the ho anon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >To make a long story short, it has to do with tax liability and cybersecurity. If you live more than 6 months in most countries, that means you have to pay taxes to them, and most companies can't be bothered to deal with this for you. Many companies will turn a blind eye, but financial services companies are especially careful about this.
        No, the reason they don't want you to do this is because if the company knowingly has people working in some country, the company can become liable for taxes and regulation in that country. Giving plausible deniability should be good enough for smaller companies.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's.... what I said....

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No, it's not.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              [...]
              Lmfao Reddit moment
              Dude quoted you and didn’t even read it

              I said working in another country may involve a company in tax bullshit in another country, all he did was repeat that and mention it subjects them to labor regulations as well, but whatever lol

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's.... what I said....

          Lmfao Reddit moment
          Dude quoted you and didn’t even read it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            I said working in another country may involve a company in tax bullshit in another country, all he did was repeat that and mention it subjects them to labor regulations as well, but whatever lol

            Here's what you said:
            >YOU have to pay taxes
            >companies can't be bothered to deal with this for YOU
            Here's what I said:
            >the COMPANY can become liable for taxes
            Can you tell the difference between these things? One of these affects only YOU. The other affects the COMPANY. Unless you're a one man shop, the taxes that YOU are liable for and the taxes that your COMPANY are liable for are different. If you work for a big company, it can be tempting for a government to claim that the company has established an economic nexus in their country by stationing remote workers there, and the company could be on the hook for an amount of money that dwarfs whatever your own personal liability might be. This is why companies are careful about people working abroad, not because the company "can't be bothered to deal with [your own tax liability] for you".

            Do you understand the difference now?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I shouldn't have responded to the original post, you're 100% right lol
              I just don't like being wrong on the internet

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Well if you keep your US address (ie parent's house) and US bank account, Thailand has no way of knowing you are there doing work there.
          As far as they are concerned, you are there vacationing and getting Visa extensions via visa-runs etc. They are also coming out with a digital nomad visa, but it does have some bullshit stipulations. There are easier ways to go about it such as visa runs ( a bit of a pain in the ass), elite visa ($$$) etc.
          Just don't go announcing to locals and expats you are working when you are there. Best practice is to keep your mouth shut about your personal life in general.

          I get the security thing might be an issue, but in my case my clients don't give a shit about that aspect. I'm going to Thailand in the new year to do the exact same thing as OP, but I freelance, and companies are generally less uptight about such things. Your taxes and such are your worries, not theirs. Full time might be a problem I suppose. I work in gaming btw.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just tried setting up a VPN on my travel router like some anons said. I tested the log in capability and it does look like the system is accepting all my credentials after the tunnel. Now I guess I just need to keep using it for a few weeks to see if I ever get approached by IT.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you actually do have such a job, this is a dumb idea. Why not just find a job that will actually let you work from anywhere if it’s that important to you?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What about joining union? Does it work like that in you country - that if you join the union its almost impossible for them to fire you? So join union first then fuck off to different country (i think easiest would be any country in same timezone). That what i would do, but i dont know how to check if there is already union existing in my company

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck codemonkeys

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This thread couldn't of been timed better. Just got a remote job but I'm in CA so want to go somewhere cheaper.
    The company isn't large but they're mostly in CA too and wanted to eventually hang out.

    I wonder if I could go to Oregon or if that would even be too much? Either way it seems like waiting 6 months seems to be the consensus around here.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Less of an issue staying in the same country.
      Take your time and feel things out before you even consider moving around.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone know the minimum download speed needed for VOIP call center?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There are more factors than transfer speed when dealing with VoIP, no?

      Short answer is:
      Depends on CODECs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What’s a good average mbps download speed to have for voip without vidoe clearly

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          128kbps?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            My employer tried to tell me we needed 50mbps minimum to take 100 calls per day and traverse the intranet. So that’s total bullshit isn’t it? I did some math and it came out to like 8mbps max

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The amount of data that's needed to call from point to point isn't that large.
              If you have a stable 128kbps, you'll be fine.

              There might be a bit of confusion on a side of things, but you can verify this information with a bit of light Googling.

              All of this goes out of the Window if alternate , non-voip communications are being used, and with your mention of network (intranet) access.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yea I was the minimum was like 8mbps. It was 80,000bps multiplied by 100 calls per day = 8mbps. I think that sounds a bit more accurate. So I’m assuming like 20mbps should be enough to take calls and traverse the system. Any idea the minimum mbps needed for traversing the Remote Desktop+intranet? It’s hard to figure this out tbh

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There might be a mix-up, but you're in the right direction.

                Transfer speed is one part.
                Transferred data over a day (or a period of time) is another part.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So then less than 8mbps ? Maybe it is 128kbps

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'd connect to your srs bank through Tor if you definitely don't want to get caught , anon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I'd connect to your srs bank through Tor if you definitely don't want to get caught , anon.
      This will never work, lmao. Connecting via Tor is a huge red flag any company with half a brain will spot right away.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Man you might want to be careful trying to play the system like that. I used to be a stockbroker with Fidelity and you couldn't even work from a location other than your own home until recently. It's all about staying in line with FINRA/SEC's bullshit rules

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This creates a tax nightmare for your company and they will 100% fire you the second they find out.

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