Are any anons here able to provide some insight on living in the PNW, specifically Washington?

Are any anons here able to provide some insight on living in the PNW, specifically Washington? I'm looking to move up there and know to stay away from Seattle/Olympia. I love being outdoors and like having seasons (living in FL for the past five years has got me down and out about swampy heat and humidity).

  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well let's start with where you are considering then gay? If you still want an urban-ish area Bellingham and Vancouver are probably the two best in the state.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Solid question. Part of me is considering Spokane because it offers proximity to nature without being too urbanized. Truthfully I don't know too much about Vancouver or Bellingham but I certainly won't rule them out.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Truthfully I don't know too much about Vancouver or Bellingham but I certainly won't rule them out.
        Rule out Bellingham. It is a smaller Seattle with all the disgusting problems, just on a smaller scale. Vancouver is OK, don't go across the river to Portland.Spokane is alright but coming from Florida, be prepared for snowy somewhat frigid winters. The rest of the year is ok. Spokane cost of living is also a little lower than the west side of the state. Keep in mind, east side or west, you are much farther north and the winter days are short and very overcast. You might get 2 to 3 days/month of sun in the winter months.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >snowy and somewhat rigid winters

          Having grown up in Colorado, I think I'm good on that front but I'll have to find my winter jacket and hope it still fits.

          pdx and seattle are nice

          PDX was cool to visit, especially the Japanese Garden but the city is an absolute travesty with the amount of homelessness and drug abuse. I got screamed at by a tweaker for stopping at a crosswalk to let him across. Homeboy looked worse for wear

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Spokane is the Baltimore of the northwest (minus it not having nearly as many black people). It used to be way worse, but the city center is sort of on the up. I still fucking hate it though. Lately in the summer Spokane has been getting fucked with forest fire smoke, and in the winter has been getting a couple huge city closing snow storms. You're also not really close to much incredible nature unless you go to far northern Idaho or maybe the Bitterroots 3-4 hours away. Bellingham puts you really close to the North Cascades, which imo is the best national park in the pnw. Vancouver puts you right next to Mt St Helens, Mt Hood, Columbia River Gorge, and the coast so it wins in that front imo.

        >Truthfully I don't know too much about Vancouver or Bellingham but I certainly won't rule them out.
        Rule out Bellingham. It is a smaller Seattle with all the disgusting problems, just on a smaller scale. Vancouver is OK, don't go across the river to Portland.Spokane is alright but coming from Florida, be prepared for snowy somewhat frigid winters. The rest of the year is ok. Spokane cost of living is also a little lower than the west side of the state. Keep in mind, east side or west, you are much farther north and the winter days are short and very overcast. You might get 2 to 3 days/month of sun in the winter months.

        I agree, it is a night and day difference between Vancouver and Portland. Vancouver is getting worse and worse though but still significantly better than Portland, Seattle, and Spokane in terms of safety and homeless.

        >snowy and somewhat rigid winters

        Having grown up in Colorado, I think I'm good on that front but I'll have to find my winter jacket and hope it still fits.

        [...]

        PDX was cool to visit, especially the Japanese Garden but the city is an absolute travesty with the amount of homelessness and drug abuse. I got screamed at by a tweaker for stopping at a crosswalk to let him across. Homeboy looked worse for wear

        >screamed at by a tweaker for stopping at a crosswalk
        Lol same thing happened to me last night in Great Falls. I have nearly an infinite amount of Portland stories worse than getting screamed at by a tweaker though, and I only lived in Vancouver for a year (thinking about going back for a couple of months though).

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I know there's hiking all around the PNW but is Vancouver fairly close to good trails?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah. Especially if you live closer to Camas. I could get to good gorge trails in 20 minutes, to Hood wilderness in 40-60, and St Helens wilderness in 60. Rainier really isn't that far away either

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Spokane is currently the greatest city in the Pacific North West and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

        Stay the fuck out of Whatcom county.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Your hipster tower downtown apartment is not representative of the nightmare downtown Spokane really is.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            You haven't seen the jungle of Seattle or literally anywhere in downtown Portland then. The bums in Spokane hang out on the east end of downtown near all the free services or north of the bridge near the jailhouse.

            People that complain don't know what it's like anywhere else. It's not half as bad as so many other cities.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Spokane's downtown is so small it is impossible to avoid the homeless situation. You're right that east downtown is essentially a no-go zone after dark (which is the same as all of downtown Portland and Seattle after dark)

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I just can't see myself living in such an upside down world

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Western WA is more forested, lush, big mountains, nice nature. Eastern WA is a bit dryer and more boring geographically, but not so SJW-infested. If your priority is nature, go western WA, if your priority is the type of people you'll be living around, go eastern WA

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        My sister just bought a house in Spokane that cost nearly as much as a place in SoCal would 5 years ago. It's not worth it. Cost of living is MUCH higher than what jobs up there pay. Maybe you get lucky and find a remote job but why risk it? I feel like after visiting for a week we had done what there was to do. Unless you hunt or fish and have a spouse or significant other that likes that stuff as well it seems pretty boring.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Spokane may look clean on the outside, but you can see the misery in people's faces, and that the homeless problem is so bad that in the library they have to put blue lights in their restrooms so the homeless won't shoot up drugs in there.
        You might as go to San Juan islands or an empty beach town on the coast of Oregon.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    pdx and seattle are nice

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >pdx and seattle are nice
      >t. mentally ill meth addict

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        idk seems pretty chill to me

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >living in FL for the past five years
    Don't blame you, I fled that shithole too, but be prepared for serious winter time depression

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Should've lived in Dunedin

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lived here for most of my life. Went to school in Oregon, lived in western WA for the rest.

    >Seattle and Portland proper are shithouses, even Spokane proper has the same problems to an extent. Avoid downtown at all costs.
    >To elaborate, homelessness and rampant drug use are the primary issues. Police can't/won't do shit against the vagrants roving around town. You're more likely to go to jail than they are.
    >Areas surrounding each place are nice but particularly pricey, only go if you have the job or money to pay for them.
    >What anons said about the suburban/satellite cities is true, they're alright but in danger of leakage from downtown. Be cautious if you do move.
    >Weather is generally four seasons, but depends on your location. Western WA/OR are rainy and cool most of the year with three months of warm, dry summer, while east of the mountains it snows frequently and has larger temperature swings with much less rain.
    >Bellingham seems nice on the outside, but is actually a disgusting hippie town in disguise. Only nice for those who want to be near Canada.
    >Vancouver is clutch because you can avoid taxes if you're crafty, but try not to work in Oregon since you'll get fucked hard by daily traffic
    >Spokane is alright I guess, approach it with caution and see if you can dip into nearby Idaho.
    >Bend is super beautiful and amazing, but everyone else thinks that and is flocking there like a swarm. Try Redmond instead so you can get the benefits of Bend without the cons of its resort city nature. Also $$$
    >You can try Methford or Tri-Cities if you're bold, but I haven't heard particularly great things about either.
    >Corvallis is a nice little college town in the valley (go beavers), and eugene is decent, but eugene has far more tweakers so might wanna avoid that.

    Conclusion: Your best bet is Vancouver, Redmond (OR), Post Falls, and maybe the Willamette valley. Prepare to spend big, but you'll get all the benefits of the outdoors in exchange.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Post Falls is a good choice if you love soulless suburban sprawl. Everything else you said is spot on. I will say traffic in the Portland metro is infinitely better than in the Seattle area though.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Spokane is the Baltimore of the northwest (minus it not having nearly as many black people). It used to be way worse, but the city center is sort of on the up. I still fucking hate it though. Lately in the summer Spokane has been getting fucked with forest fire smoke, and in the winter has been getting a couple huge city closing snow storms. You're also not really close to much incredible nature unless you go to far northern Idaho or maybe the Bitterroots 3-4 hours away. Bellingham puts you really close to the North Cascades, which imo is the best national park in the pnw. Vancouver puts you right next to Mt St Helens, Mt Hood, Columbia River Gorge, and the coast so it wins in that front imo.

      [...]
      I agree, it is a night and day difference between Vancouver and Portland. Vancouver is getting worse and worse though but still significantly better than Portland, Seattle, and Spokane in terms of safety and homeless.

      [...]
      >screamed at by a tweaker for stopping at a crosswalk
      Lol same thing happened to me last night in Great Falls. I have nearly an infinite amount of Portland stories worse than getting screamed at by a tweaker though, and I only lived in Vancouver for a year (thinking about going back for a couple of months though).

      Solid question. Part of me is considering Spokane because it offers proximity to nature without being too urbanized. Truthfully I don't know too much about Vancouver or Bellingham but I certainly won't rule them out.

      https://i.imgur.com/NYpS50f.jpg

      Are any anons here able to provide some insight on living in the PNW, specifically Washington? I'm looking to move up there and know to stay away from Seattle/Olympia. I love being outdoors and like having seasons (living in FL for the past five years has got me down and out about swampy heat and humidity).

      Post Falls is a good choice if you love soulless suburban sprawl. Everything else you said is spot on. I will say traffic in the Portland metro is infinitely better than in the Seattle area though.

      Spokane is indeed a shithole, seasons here are cold, hot, smokey hot, and a couple brief windows of semi-cold instead of spring and fall. Homeless problems are miniaturized versions of Seattle and Portland, neighborhoods are presently fighting to prevent some rather shady shelter plans. Infrastructure is bad (this isn't unique to the area though), entertainment options are poor, property crime is out of control, and the cost of living is rapidly increasing.

      >Outdoor Stuff
      But I guess if you're into outdoorsy stuff and don't care about the bullshit, the inland northwest might be for you. Just know what you're getting into.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like it on the peninsula. Olympia is my closest large city. It's not too bad. A few minutes up the 101 is ok. I don't like Vancouver because it's basically Portland. I don't like cities either, so there's that. Spokane kind of sucks. I hate going there for work. I like Western Washington because we don't have the amount of hobos the rest of the state has. There aren't a lot of cities out this way for them. Plus because of the rain, they tend to stay below the 101 unless they have an RV. Up by mount Baker and North Cascades is dope if you want to be a bit further north. Mount Vernon is ok too.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The hardest part of trying to find a place that more or less suits what we're looking for. I can't stand the idea of raising my kids in a one-stop-sign town (did that growing up and almost lost my fucking mind) and cities in general are just havens of weak-willed gays, bleeding hearts, and people who never tried harder or, worse, are a bunch of try-hards.

      Turns out my great aunt lives in Spokane and doesn't mind it but also stays indoors 90% of the time (for what reason, who knows). I'm going to check out some more places closer to the coast... but I know the closer one gets to the coast, the more it costs for less space.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Turns out my great aunt lives in Spokane and doesn't mind it but also stays indoors 90% of the time (for what reason, who knows).
        Because it sucks. Check out Bremerton. Snoqualmie is cool, but you're looking at California prices. You just have to remember Washington and Oregon are hobo heaven. They give them skid rows, hotels, and parking lots to ruin. Bellevue is good because they don't let hobos take over, but again, it's pricey.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can't add too much as I've only been here several years but can say the east side of Lake Washington is infinitely better than the Seattle side, while still being able to access when needed, if you can afford it and don't mind suburban. Some further east adjacent cities are also incredibly nice depending on where you work and can handle living. In other areas, hear good things of Vancouver, and could consider it in the distant future. Bellingham is a drab college town but is located near good nature. Salem rather fucked like Portland, Olympia. Spokane fucked by winters and further away from anything good. Everywhere else you're looking at very small towns and/or desert.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pros:
    -You won't need aircon
    -It's a very scenic part of the country, especially Hoh National Forest
    -Lots of tertiary/quaternary industry present

    Cons:
    -Unbelievably expensive
    -Tons of bums/drug addict bums
    -City is too scared to deal with the above issue

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You won't need aircon
      This is no longer looking to be true.
      If I were going to live in Washington again I'd probably consider something like Ellensburg or Wenachee. Chelan County is a crypto hub, if that matters. There's also places in Snohomish County like Lynnwood and Marysville that don't suck completely.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Small towns are legit, just as long as they aren't TOO small, you know?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        2021 it got to like 112 degrees for nearly a week in Vancouver. I was fucking dying because my landlords/roommates refused to turn the central air on and my room was above our garage. So the meme of not needing air con is definitely out the window for a couple of months a year these days.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Look at the Vancouver area close proximity to the Columbia gorge basically as good as hiking and camping you will find so close to civilization

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    spokane sucks
    its full of bums and its hyper expensive
    it doesn't have anything a bigger city does like seattle that makes putting up with homeless trash and bad weather worth it
    besides the small downtown its just suburban sprawl
    but oh, you can drive 15 mintues and go hiking I guess, hooray

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well shit then, what about Tacoma?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tacoma is essentially Spokane on the coast. Being in Tacoma puts you closer to good hiking and more shit to do in general than Spokane does though.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Live and work in vancouver and shop in portland. You wont pay income tax or sales tax.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is the biggest meme.
      >live with a bunch of russians on massive suburban highways with chain restaurants
      >save $40 next time you want to buy a washing machine in Janzen Beach
      MEME ALERT

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is literally no different from where I'm living now. Absolutely soulless and chock-full of crappy condos, shitty stripmalls, and dead-eyed retirees

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hello fellow based tax evading Vancouvanon.

      This is the biggest meme.
      >live with a bunch of russians on massive suburban highways with chain restaurants
      >save $40 next time you want to buy a washing machine in Janzen Beach
      MEME ALERT

      Downtown Vancouver and the waterfront is nice. Camas and Washougal are good. Sad cope for the fact that wherever you are in the pacnw has 200x more homeless.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are they docile homeless or aggressive just-put-them-in-the-ground homeless? I'm in FL and I've found the suffocating heat/humidity tends to sap their energy and keep them rather feckless

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          In Florida people are also *packing* so there's a line they won't cross.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm packing as well, but I'm not the kind of joker that puts my H&K/Sig stickers on the rear window

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Hello fellow based tax evading Vancouvanon.

          [...]
          Downtown Vancouver and the waterfront is nice. Camas and Washougal are good. Sad cope for the fact that wherever you are in the pacnw has 200x more homeless.

          >Downtown Vancouver and the waterfront is nice.
          I've seen bums masturbating on the public computers at that new library downtown.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ive seen that in Montana, that's just public library vibes.

            Are they docile homeless or aggressive just-put-them-in-the-ground homeless? I'm in FL and I've found the suffocating heat/humidity tends to sap their energy and keep them rather feckless

            50/50, 50% are too fucked up on drugs so they are docile zombie mode. 50% are hyper aggressive scream at a leaf that blows across their path mode.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Should I stay strapped then?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Duh. If you're not concealed carrying in a major metro area in the US you are certified downs

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks for not taking any pictures of me though

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine living in the northwest and not working in tech. Boomers in seattle who've owned homes for 30 years are poorer in net worth and disposable income than techie immigrants who arrived 5 years ago

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    there are no jobs in spokane except for tech spillover from seattle
    there is a minor industrial sector on the border of idaho, but there is more labor than they need for the blue collar work so wages are so low you can't even afford to live in town

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