Being assigned to New Mexico for a project that will take 6-8 months. I have never heard anything good about this state. Is it as bad as everyone says with crime and poverty and drug addicts? Any redeeming qualities?
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People are poor and uneducated everywhere except Santa Fe. Albuquerque is a shithole. Everywhere besides Santa Fe and Albuquerque is trashy small town trailer park shit, might as well be west Texas.
Only positives about NM are outdoor activities and food. The state has lots of great outdoor stuff like hiking, hot springs, skiing. White Sands and Gila national forest are worth a visit. Southwest food is great. Green chile everything. NM style enchiladas are S-tier
NM gets a lot of sunshine, and becomes amazingly beautiful after a good summer monsoon season. Otherwise, it is usually parched and desolate-looking, with a helluva lot of dry wind in spring. Some people find the aridity and sunshine to be invigorating. Climate is harsh, with extremes of heat and cold.
People can be difficult to meet, they have lived there for generations and do not care for outsiders very much. The north-central part of the state has a Hispanic heritage dating back to the 1600s, there is no region quite like it in the USA. There are a lot of mountain ranges, with thick pine forests and amazing peaceful solitude, but vast areas have been burned to rubble in recent years, and the desert plains tend to be extremely bleak. The Roswell - Artesia - Carlsbad metro is the most "Anglo" part of the state, quite prosperous with the oilfield revenue. Silver City has an appealing downtown with a vast mountain range nearby. T or C is a neat little hippie town. Socorro has a Spanish plaza and a neat backdrop, but is otherwise mostly a rest stop for freeway travelers.
>Any redeeming qualities?
There's some great nature even close to Abq. I really like green chiles too. I used to go there for family visits. I don't really miss New Mexico but I miss the chiles. Climate is also pretty nice. I wouldn't call it extreme. NM doesn't experience the extreme heat of Arizona nor the cold of Utah or Colorado nor the humidity of Texas, though it does change a lot, a 90 degree day can be 40s at night in the fall. I also need a humidifier and lots of chap stick.
I came upon some funeral procession in some little town out there, an hour or so north of Santa Fe, people were wearing clothes that looked like 1800s Mexico. Carrying the casket down the center of the state highway. Riding horses too. Never seen anything like it.
Anyway, NM isn't ghetto like you think of Chicago or Baltimore. It's not really unsafe but there's a lot of obvious signs of drug use and poverty and stuff left out will probably go missing. What I like to tell people is imagine a dumpy rural town. Somewhere that has a few nice streets but is mostly poor but not terrible or really unsafe, just run down and seen better days. Like Barstow, California. Now imagine a whole state that's Barstow.
super pretty up north, nice weather, skiing, low COL for a western state, hatch green chiles.
>Like Barstow, California. Now imagine a whole state that's Barstow.
Not entirely wrong but needs better nature. Mayb like Cave Junction (which is also underrated!)
NM is awesome. If you cant find something to enjoy here then you can frick right off
Oh wow...trees. That's pretty cool anon can't find that in any other state
NM is great if you love history, historic sites, and nature.
So many old Spanish missions and pre-Columbian cliff dwellings and beautiful nature. Not to mention distinct adobe homes. The fact of the matter is: Welcome to New Mexico, the land of enchantment.
You got to see things like Taos Pueblo, White Sands, Carlsbad,
Good friend took a job at the big lab in Albuquerque. He couldn’t wait to get out once his contract ended. Dating scene was abysmal and everyone is poor and/or a drug addict. He did like the food and hiking tho
I live in Albuquerque. I like it here. People are kind of stupid but they're kind and down-to-earth. I lived in Seattle for almost a decade. I prefer Albuquerque by a mile.
well...age of consent is 12. that's something interesting
Not true
It's probably one of those things where they won't charge the participants with a crime if they're both middle schoolers around the same age fooling around.
Nah, anon maybe in the ME. Age of consent is 17 if your within 4 years; 18 is the 'safe' number.
Any alien sightings?
NM is only violent if you’re a poor moron. Two million people live there and the worst thing that happens to most is their car gets broken into because a junkie sees $2 in change in the center console. It’s not GTA.
"Low murder rate but junkies will steal anything not bolted down" isn't a selling point.
If you live anywhere besides Albuquerque, Gallup, or Las Cruces you'll never have issues with shitty people. Santa Fe is nothing but rich yuppies and artists.
Someone's never been to edgewood, mora, artesia or basically any other part of this state. Just stfu moron.
I know about 15 people who live in Edgewood. Visit there regularly. It’s a nice area full of conservatives who want to get away from ABQ shit. Never been to Socorro, don’t have a reason to visit. Ruidoso is great but expensive.
Those are the only places to live in New Mexico. Everywhere else like
is a boring one horse and a dollar general shithole. Santa Fe and Taos are too expensive. Rio Rancho looks nice but it's still considered ABQ right? Socorro? I know someone who went to NM Tech and said it was horrendous, there's like 5 men for every woman so even the uglies are stuck up b***hes and social activities involve getting wasted while playing vidya or getting high and setting shit on fire in the desert.
Indeed.
land of entrapment. can't wait to gtfo of this state. only a couple months left
This place sucks if you have the income and position to live in a real coastal state/city. If you’re like the majority of Americans who are just doing what they can to get by then NM shits on most of the other states simply by virtue of being cheap, beautiful, and isolated from blacks. I wish I made the kind of money to live in san diego or coeur d'alene or somewhere in the pnw but I don’t so NM it is.
>isolated from blacks
even in the most ghetto areas of abq it never "feels" anywhere near as dangerous as in black areas in other states. although i did see some Black folk street fighting in the warzone once
While there are few blacks in NM, and insolent thuggery is a rare sight, property crime is sky-high. Everything that isn't nailed down will be stolen, and they'll bring a claw hammer for what is. Colorado is vastly superior to New Mexico in every way, although Denver and the Springs have been facing serious issues with urban decay in recent years.
>Colorado is superior to NM in every way
Worse weather. Stuck up pretentious people who have no personality besides >muh hiking/skiing/beer. A million Californians. Horrible traffic in Denver. 60-100% higher cost of living/rent/real estate. Tons of homeless people (yes, Denver is worse than Albuquerque for hobos). Crowded. 56% men, extremely difficult to date in Denver as a straight man, which I know isn't an issue for you but for the rest of us it sucks.
When you drive across the border from southwestern Colorado to northern NM everything gets trashier and browner. It's hard to explain if you haven't seen it in person but the stores and houses in towns in Colorado are nice and in NM they're trailers and Family Dollar. I agree with you on Coloradans being the biggest homosexuals in the entire world though. Worse than Californians.
>Pueblo, Trinidad, and Walsenberg are nice
SW Colorado is beautiful. The rest of CO south of the Springs is awful.
What's wrong with Californians?
Everything
They’re mostly insufferable left wingers who fled California for getting too left wing with insane taxes and regulations, but they lack the self awareness to understand why California got the way it did so they move to places like Colorado, Idaho, and Montana and will rinse and repeat the same process to destroy those states. Colorado used to be red until the influx of Californians. The other reason is they bought shitty little CA houses for $250k 20-40 years ago and now they’re worth $900k so they sell and have cash to buy the best properties in the state they move to. When I sold my first house in NM I made my realtor confirm the couple buying it wasn’t from California lol
Colorado is hell on earth
Colorado sucks simply because it’s 10x the cost for like 1.5x the better life. You’re surrounded by insufferable frickwits whose main hobby tends to be trying to go SighSee to escape the other frickwits. There is no escape. The homeless situation is somehow even worse than here and you pay a premium for it. But at least you look cool in your north face puffer I guess
Albuquerque is weird and deceiving because it looks like a massive suburb with strip malls and homes with spacey yards everywhere. So you wouldn't think it's all that bad. But like I said it's deceptively dangerous. It's ranked #2 in USNWR's 2023-24 most dangerous place rankings. Only Memphis is worse.
ABQ’s violent crime problems are about 80% gang on gang/drug disputes and 15% road rage. I’ve lived here 12 years and never seen anything violent happen besides a hobo kicking my bumper at a crosswalk once
Tell that to the longtime pizza shop owner and others who were senselessly killed during robberies. People talk shit about Chicago being a crime-ridden shithole but at least that's mostly relegated to the southside and westside and adjacent suburbs. In ABQ the violent crimes and property crimes are just about everywhere unless you live in Rio Rancho or something.
Property crime happens in almost every neighborhood in America. My parents live in one of the wealthiest areas of Seattle because they bought a house early 90s and they still have issues with porch pirates and shit
>Seattle
Seattle is a shithole, anon.
>Bellevue is a shithole with its $1.3M average home price
Sure thing anon. Sure thing
The beauty of the west coast. Everything's shitty, yet horribly expensive. Love it.
>t. portland native
>muh stats say
Remember when prices for your groceries and everything you wanted to do basically doubled last year? According to muh stats inflation only reached 11% so that price increase is just your imagination.
I don’t care what your numbers say, every place now is riddled with property crime but I have a fence and a dog and guns. It’s a non-issue if you aren’t a patsy. Fun fact: yesterday I saw a black person for the first time in months. At the target self checkout with pants around his knees, neck tats and all, scowling at everyone but ultimately just sulking away out the door because that dumb coon knows he’s super out of place here.
>rio rancho is awesome and safe
Lmao you have never even set foot in this state. Go suck a sausage you little moron
Stats are more reliable than your worthless anecdotes.
Saying that Rio Rancho isn't safe while at the same time saying that crime is a non-issue in burque makes you look really uninformed and stupid btw.
Talking about rio rancho and abq like they’re different places only cements the fact that you’re a moron and have never been here
You seem illiterate. Re-read the last sentence here
and you will see that I originally included Rio Rancho in the Albuquerque metro.
Also, I have been to NM multiple times in the last five years. Not that it matters because the FBI crime stats speak for themselves.
Gaywad doesn’t know a thing. Shocking.
It is kinda far just because of the sprawl of this place but people mostly just say that as an excuse to not go there because there’s frick all to do. It’s just a boring suburb with strip malls everywhere
I know your own state better than you do but k
I hear locals in ABQ talk about Rio Rancho like it’s 30 miles away lol. It’s Albuquerque
There are plenty of cheap small towns in the PNW lad. Go live in Toledo OR or Mt Vernon WA or 70% of Montana
Snow is looking good this year. You should hit up Taos or Ski Santa Fe for sure. Northern NM gets flooded with Texans Christmas/Spring Break. Other than that it’s fine.
i just want to reiterate that i'm really leaving this time. less than 2 months now.
I have no idea how people end up trapped here. Truly pathetic
I live here and NM is comfy for me. No plans to leave anytime soon.
If you're in ABQ do you want a free modded xbox classic console?
I live east mountains. why would anyone want a 20 year old xbox
because it's modded. i also have a stop sign i need to get rid of
This is such a New Mexico post.
yeah well i'm not from here. i need to get out before i become any more "new mexican"
Of all street signs to steal why would you steal a stop sign
My father was born there, and I went back often as a kid for various family reunion-type activities. I always had a good time.
The state is largely very poor—when I went as an adult for a business trip, the guy renting me a car at the Albuquerque airport cheerfully, and maybe a little sheepishly, said, “We’re a beautiful state, but we’re a poverty state.” He then warned me that a majority of New Mexico drivers were uninsured, so drive carefully on the very high-speed-limit freeways.
And he was right. There is plenty of visible poverty, both urban and rural, and all the downsides that come with that. But he’s also right that the natural areas are in many places exceptionally beautiful, and unless you’re also from the Southwest, it’s probably quite different from what you’re used to.
And it’s culturally interesting—as the above anons note, there’s an ancient Spanish colonial heritage with no real equivalent anywhere else. And there’s both ancient and modern Native American stuff in abundance, some of which is really cool. There are also pockets of artsy-fartsy high culture (esp. around Santa Fe and Taos) and weird hippie enclaves (my friend’s sister lived in the strange and funky little village of Madrid, near Santa Fe, for a while, and met some excellent freaks and weirdos there) and pretty good food.
Plus, because it’s poor, it’s mostly cheap.
All in all, I doubt I would move there permanently, but I would have no problem staying there for part of a year.