Best country for a guy in his late 20's who makes six-figures remotely to expat to? Looking to live well.
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Best country for a guy in his late 20's who makes six-figures remotely to expat to? Looking to live well.
>to expat to
Just say "immigrate to". That's what you are: an immigrant
But expats hangout with fellow English speakers
Expat is actually just a tax designation - anyone who claims the foreign earned income (expat) tax exclusion is technically an expat. This is distinct from being an immigrant but of course the two populations have a significant overlap.
>Expat is actually just a tax designation
In many multinational business circles, it’s also a category of contract—typically divided between local/expat. It winds up mostly overlapping with the tax designation you point out, but is applicable to many more nationalities than just Americans.
In the multinational circles I know best, expat also more broadly applies to people who were moved by, for, or with their jobs. There are often compensation packages and miscellaneous perks attached. The implication is usually but not always that foreign postings are inherently temporary.
But everybody who yells in these threads is ultimately right in the sense that it’s at heart an arbitrary scrap of terminology.
This is where the term actually comes from and where it gets the "cool" status from which is why you see dumb morons using it now.
What I first heard was that expats are human resources from foreign countries brought in missions by NGO and humanitarian relief. Specifically the workers that are brought from abroad, regardless of tax status or where they come from. It gives them a mercenary bad ass aura, cause you meet them in the office and they are the ones in the middle of the conflict, the fricked up situations and the crazy locations.
Now weak chin homosexuals call themselves expats when they're long term tourists or (even illegal) immigrants.
Immigrants are long term, expats for temporary. Sounds like he just wants to be there a short time.
so he's a tourist
Only butthurt obnoxious leftists say that argument in the UK and they always say it in the snobbiest way possible. It's ok to use different words to describe different kinds of people doing the same or a similar thing bro
>That's what you are: an immigrant
nope, I'm not poor and brown
Fricking dork homosexual frick you. Oh boy I bet you’re really excited to just sit in front of your laptop in different exotic locations!
Frick every fricking dork on this board
jealous
Cope and seethe more poorgay, get a useful degree while you’re at it
Your spine will snap the moment you carry a Patagonia backpack.
Russia. I get shit everytime I say this, but Russia is definitely a solid choice to move too.
13% tax. Easy to get permanent residency. Everything is cheap, and buying a house isn't ridiculous like it is in the U.S. You get free healthcare and a pension when you get older. You do not have to renounce citizenship to get Russian citizenship anymore, but you can also just be a permanent resident and be perfectly fine.
Tickets to get there from the U.S are around 1,300. (flying to serbia, then airserbia into russia).
Oh, and you'll have to learn Russian.
How Americans treated in Russia? This is the only thing I’m a bit worried about
Well, lol. The average Russian is too disinterested in politics to even care about Americans.
I mean, we’re not at war so I imagine fine, but if we ever got into a shooting war it would be pretty bad.
This is my plan too. I don't make 6 figures, I make 50,000 online but still that wage I will live like a king in Russia and be able to live the 1950s life I always dreamed of. Wife, car, house, three kids, etc. Seems good.
You forgot this one little detail: you can't get your EUR or USD into Russia. Their banks are isolated from the rest of the world due to Putin's brilliant strategy.
What is bitcoin or wechat pay? There are plenty of other ways to go around it anyways. When I was living in vietnam I exchanged money with a guy wish child went to Canada for university. I give them cad, they give me dongs.
That's a stupid fricking answer, anon.
>What is bitcoin or wechat pay?
About as useless as an everyday way of paying for things in Russia as they are in any other country. WeChat is two-tiered so a foreign account isn't entirely payment/translfer compatible with Chinese accounts.
>When I was living in vietnam I exchanged money with a guy wish child went to Canada for university. I give them cad, they give me dongs.
What, you had a suitcase full of CAD and somehow they were DHLing it to their kid in Leafstan?
>Well, I can just barter with the noble Russians peasantry
Frick off. Nobody wants to live in Russia, least of all Russians.
I'd totally go to Russia if I weren't scared of the FBI and didn't have a thousand sanctions to have to follow.
That's too much trouble for living in a shithole like Russia. This isn't a globohomosexual Ukraine vs. trad Russia post. Both those countries are incredibly depressing societies with shit weather- except for that far southern part of Ukraine that now belongs to Russia so maybe go there but I've heard Crimean is under double super sanctions.
You just get money deposited in your American bank account and use it to buy crypto. Literally couldn't be easier.
no wonder our rulers are so hungry to ban crypto.
they want control
Plenty of banks still work in Russia.
Which ones? I'd be much more willing to go to Russia if it were easier to just buy shit.
I'm not even a coder. I just paid my dues in college and the corporate world - like you were apparently too busy to do.
I kneel, corpo
this is quite possibly the worst advice I've ever seen on this board
yes. but i would love to follow the vblog of someone who randomly moves to Russia to start a new life. Bonus points if he doesn't know any Russian.
No. Just no. You could offer me all the money in the world and I still wouldn't live there.
>t.Russian who left decades ago and sometimes goes back to visit family
>How do you get your money into russia when russian banks won't allow opening from non friendly countries
>if OP is working for a company has to be aware of work laws that make certain countries (Iran, Russia, N Korea etc) even more illegal to work in
>Russian immigration is really strict and will throw you in jail (straight to war) if they catch you breaking your visa rules
>Also prepare for weekly/monthly check ins with officers to ensure you are not a spy
>Good luck purchasing imported goods you'll be living with even lower quality goods then SEA and any currency you buy will quickly become worthless.
I wouldn't want to deal with that when the positives of russia are the same as any eastern european shit hole or even south east asian country.
>Best country for a guy in his late 20's who makes six-figures remotely to expat to? Looking to live well.
These threads are about 95% useless fantasy, but going with it for a moment, let’s consider the basic practical questions you need to ask:
>1. What passport(s) do you carry, and how long (and how) do you plan to stay?
Only a relatively limited number of countries have real, legal, long-term visa provisions for remote workers.
There are obviously workarounds in a lot of places (so-called “visa runs” every few months, etc.), but any informal/under-the-table residency cheats may both run into time limits, as well as creating hassles when it comes to things like signing leases or getting bank accounts or health coverage. Places with long visa exemptions (Georgia, Albania, others) fit into this informal workaround category IMO if you’re going to wind up with no path to further residency when your work from home gap year ends.
Anybody serious about something like this who isn’t putting some effort into figuring out how to make it legal is a rank amateur.
>2. What if any time zones does your working day need to correspond to?
If you’re expected on the clock during US Pacific Time hours, for example, whether real or virtual, living in most of Europe or Asia may be a pain in the ass. No sane person enjoys working all-nighters, even if you don’t have to start until sometime in your local afternoon. The Americas are probably going to be far less painful chronologically in a case like that.
>WTF is “living well”?
I’m assuming that means you aspire to live somewhere cheaper than wherever you live now. If so, which countries are you allowed to stay in long-term that meet your unspecified criteria?
Anyway, I know people who work remotely from places as diverse as Portugal, Singapore, Hong Kong, Argentina, Mexico, and Kenya. They all make it work and most seem pretty happy. But without more information it’s impossible to advise.
English in Korea is much worse than Thailand
yeah but there's English signs and everything everywhere, and Korean alphabet/pronunciation is easy at least
Do you like working or are you trying to retire somewhat early? If you live in Thailand you can bank a ton of your salary and probably have a few million in 20 years assuming normie investments.
argentina. its buenos aires for me. been here almost a year and dont see myself leaving
>white
>safe
>1000usd/month for housing gets you a NICE place
>500usd/month for food basically means eating out every day at fancy places for 2 ppl with wine every meal
>extremely lax immigration laws so u can keep ur tax residency/job elsewhere, and just visa run every 90 days
>hot women, but also good women for wive/gf if you want that
i make six figs in tech and its rly a no-brainer to live here. i save significantly more than i possibly ever could in usa, and live like a king.
how easy to get citizenship?
how do you get your money into the country and converted?
also... safety?
>how do you get your money into the country and converted?
Western Union, withdrawal USD from Uruguay atms while you're there for visa runs, or find a cueva that will trade pesos for tether
>safety?
One of the best by LATAM standards
Frick you homosexual
>extremely lax immigration laws so u can keep ur tax residency/job elsewhere, and just visa run every 90 days
Are these actually 90 day visas, or just visa-free entries? And do they never cut you off? Many, many years ago people used to bounce in and out of Thailand indefinitely, sometimes even for years, just on visa exemptions, but the authorities spent some decades being annoyed by this before gradually cracking down, as is less well-known than it should be. Most people who try it nowadays get rejected their third or fourth time around, although enforcement has always been and remains completely irregular.
Do you have any trouble renting an apartment if you have to bounce quarterly? Do you have any kind of residency document, or are you regarded by the local immigration authorities as just a tourist, if anything?
Someone here was saying that it’s astoundingly easy to acquire permanent residency in Argentina, which I found hard to believe until I looked up Argentine immigration law, which is indeed unusually generous. It’s possible to apply for permanent residency after successfully overstaying a visa for two continuous years without dying or getting caught, or something. I don’t remember the details but it was framed as a human rights issue and it was startling in its broadness.
I’m honestly thinking of formally charging the janny to start banning these threads. I’m tired of being confronted with the reality that there are dork homosexuals who are capable of living the life I can only fantasize about, all because they have a dork homosexual aptitude for staring at lines of code and hunching over the laptop.
Its easy to put out of my mind when I don’t have to read it but it makes me extremely angry
yeah we can tell. seen you seething pretty hard in these threads several times before
If it makes you feel any better literally 95% of halfway decent american salary coding jobs just simply won't let you work outside of the US. So most of these fantasies are moot and deus ex machina'd away at the last second because why risk it, for the company.
You have to be in an incredibly leveraged position to work remotely abroad and make good money, build a company yourself, or work for some low tier shit copmany for shit pay who doesn't care where you are.
1099 is the key.
With six figures you could be at least comfortably middle class basically anywhere you want. I would go to Europe. Iceland, Norway, Italy, maybe Hungary or Croatia.
Economically, it’s true that OP (who may have left the the thread days ago never to return at this point) could live comfortably on six figures in most places. But depending on where he’s from, his ability to obtain official permission to stay is going to vary. Is it possible to be comfortable on a six-figure online/remote income living in Iceland? I should hope so. But is it possible/legal for OP to live indefinitely in Iceland? No idea.
Kind of hesitant to do Western Europe. It doesn't seem like a big upgrade from the U.S. Looking for somewhere where the money goes farther, but there's still enough to do so that I can do martial arts or some other hobby if I want to pick it up. I respect coomer-expats' goals, but the problem with their countries is that the men aren't going to make for a great friend-group. A healthy, non-romantic social scene so that you can have normal friends and normal gfs would be nice. I'm sort of leaning towards somewhere in the Balkans but still need to scout the place irl.
Why?
Still here (forever).
If white, southern brazil. 100%.
Just buy a cabin in Montana and live like Uncle Ted, minus the pipe bombs.
This
The only thing you need to remote work is a power supply (solar/wind) and internet (starlink), make everything else yourself and save 99% of your income
LA
the country where your family live
The USA, as much as it hurts to say it. But also depends on the city.
Eastern EU