no one wants to live in the midwest or south fat frick. what you gonna do in your free time? visit the local mcdonalds/pizza hut and hook up with 250 lb hambeasts on tinder?
Street savviness is learned by spending time on the streets and paying attention to what is going on.
Villa de Leyva, Boyaca, Colombia is a destination I would recommend. While most of Colombia is a messy mestizo dump, Villa de Leyva is extremely traditional, peaceful and friendly in a formally polite way. Also boring, but that's part and parcel of being a safe and peaceful small town. The hiking nearby is great if you like nature.
I've never been to Merida, Yucatan, Mexico, but the state has a violent crime rate on par with the safest US states. Last year they saw below 2 murders / 100K. If you want sunny hot winter weather and the best of Mexico without the ugly parts, Merida looks to be a good place to stay.
Uruguay does have a high COL for Latin America, but rent tends to be very affordable compared to the USA. Goods and services are where you will pay First World prices.
>1,300 USD
You can get a decent apartment in a not so bad place in the Midwest or the South for that.
I seriously doubt you can get a top-tier modern beachfront apartment for 1300/month anywhere in the South. Lakefront if you are Midwest.
>I seriously doubt you can get a top-tier modern beachfront apartment for 1300/month anywhere in the South.
Texas here. $1300 will get you a one room studio, but unfurnished
Hey man, I like getting drunk, going fishing, football, and listening to either hard rock or Pharrell too, but I also like other things sometimes. Hampton Roads doesn't have have other things.
>Villa de Leyva, Boyaca, Colombia
That's the biggest tourist trap ever. Don't take this as an insult to your tastes but more as a tip of what you'd be up against if you decide to go.
t. Colombia
I saw virtually no tourists when I visited in February 2021. Food and lodging were quite cheap, even by Colombian standards. Maybe it is crowded again, have you been recently?
Bogotá is okay if you stay in El Centro and avoid going out at night. You’ll probably be fine at night if you take cabs, I just wasn’t into it. There are cops literally everywhere there. If you’re going for women stay somewhere with a doorman and make sure they take your date’s IDs. Drugging + robbing happens quite a bit down there, though if you do some basic screening through Instagram you can generally avoid it. If a girl presents or behaves like a prostitute she definitely is one and you should exfiltrate yourself from the situation. Women aren’t forward there but if they like you most will have sex with you reasonably quickly. It’s a conservative culture so they don’t want to come across as loose, but they also enjoy the company of men a lot more than North American women.
I found it helped to make friends online first to study the language. These can be girls or guys. Avoid Tinder and dating apps in general, they’re mostly full of working girls and scammers.
I went out at night frequently in Colombia. The streets were surprisingly well-lit, and traffic was lighter than in the daytime. Good luck finding food, unless you want something that has been sitting out all day. A note about Bogota and cooming: the city is obsessed with fashion, so bring your clothes game as well as your Spanish game.
The streets in Bogotá are only really lit up in certain neighborhoods. I stayed in El Centro and I wouldn’t go north of my building for any reason at night. The trouble isn’t really the light, it’s that there won’t be anyone outdoors. The streets are deserted by around 8:00 PM most nights.
The food there was great, I don’t know why people complain about it. There is a cafe next to the National Museum that has really good food. If there’s top tier vegan food in Cali, you can find something normal to eat in Bogotá. I do agree that you should avoid the street food. First and only thing I tried gave me diarrhea. I never had that problem at any of the restaurants I ate at.
It’s true about clothes, Colombians are very image conscious. I didn’t dress up but I had a nice sweater and a collared shirt. Wear shoes that look nice but that aren’t expensive. I ruined a pair stepping into one of Bogotá’s many potholes. The words “Slip and Fall Hazard” don’t translate well into Spanish.
>the food was great
What food, specifically? If you are one of those people who love bunuelos or arepas, sorry anon, our definitions of "great food" does not match.
I can't answer your question as, even though I was born and raised in LA, I've only been to a handful of countries. But what foreigners have to understand about LA is that our societies are really unequal and having a good standard of living here is not as cheap as people think.
If you want access to good hospitals, dining, nightlife, etc. you'll have to live in a big city. For safety reasons (and easy access to those places), you'll have to live in a good neighborhood. Is rent cheaper than manhattan neighborhoods, London, Paris? Yes. Is it cheaper than Ljubljana or a city in the midwest? I am not so sure.
Clothes, cars and electronics are more expensive in LA most of the times. Having staff (driver, maid, cook) is definitely cheaper (2-4 hundred dollars a month and you hire one). Wanna have a drink in a bar or have a meal in a humble place? Much cheaper. Fine dining? Varies a lot. In Buenos Aires I would say it is cheaper. In Sao Paulo usually more expensive...
I would say Chile and Uruguay are the safest places with a good standard of living. The latter is a bit boring though. I've spent a week there and think it is enough. Chile is more diverse (not in the reddit sense). But can't say much about it besides Santiago.
Argentina has good cities but crime is rising. Their economy is shitty though so you do get a good time if you have a powerful currency. Rent in a good neighborhood in Buenos Aires is not that cheap nowadays, specially with landlords charging it in usd due the inflation.
I've lived in LA. You really don't need that much money to have a really good life and save if your salary comes from a western country.
For $600 you can get a 3-bedroom house in the capital, 15 minutes from the city center and near a bus station.
>BA seems like a great city with nothing to do outside
That sounds about right. THey do have a big park though, kind of like central park. But Santiago beats them on that front too with that big mountain whatever it's called.
BA has its charm but it can be a difficult city to live in because of how broke the country is. Even when times were better they had constant blackouts int eh middle of summer. Protests there have always been a daily occurence and encampments of either homeless people or protesters even in the Plaza de Mayo.
You are more likely to get sunburn in Chile if that matters to you. They often have that ozone problem, along with Peru.
I'm from Ireland originally so I fricking loathe the oppressive heat. Where's a sensibly temperate area to go and try to live for a year? I spent the last 7 years living in Texas and I'm fricking done with the big heat but I'd still like to give SoAm a shot. Where to?
I'm in Parker County. I have an acre of land, which is something I dig because I can work on my classic cars but the 6 months of 110 tier temps is grim. Also, am not a grill.
It would be alright if it wasn't for the 6 months of the sauna. The people are nice, the bbq is good. But with the massive inflation I'm trying to eye somewhere cheaper (from our point of view) and cooler.
It would be alright if it wasn't for the 6 months of the sauna. The people are nice, the bbq is good. But with the massive inflation I'm trying to eye somewhere cheaper (from our point of view) and cooler.
Argentina is cheap and has regular seasons. I hate to recommend Medellin, but it also mild weather
Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil's southernmost state. It frequently snows there during winter, plus the two states furthest south (this one included) are majority white with the safest cities and highest quality of living. Real is 5:1 with dollar, so for 500$ you can rent a really high tier apartment. Enjoy Germanic, Japanese and Italic blooded Brazilian bunda.
The rich neighborhoods (Miraflores, San Isidro) of Lima are really nice and probably safer than any major US city. The only downsides are the gray weather and the crazy traffic.
I spent 3 weeks in San Lorenzo in Paraguay. In total I spent $300 for the car, $300 for the Airbnb, and $900 for the flight. Food was cheap, a whole month of groceries cost less than $20 but I spent more from PedidosYa >safe
I can't tell you, yeah I went out during the day and nothing happened but at night (after 8pm) I was in my room
disgusting goblinas
Urgay, Paraguay and Chile, but they might be bit more expensive.
>uruguay
>expensive
>you can live in pic related for 1.300 USD/month
private pool or no? pic related is 400 a month in bali for private or 300 a month in bangkok for shared pool
that's getting close to western prices lol
Nice.
>1,300 USD
You can get a decent apartment in a not so bad place in the Midwest or the South for that.
I'm a midwestcel and you can find good places at that price, but the apt itself will not be as nice as that pic.
Uruguay is the closest to western conditions in South America though. You get what you pay for.
no one wants to live in the midwest or south fat frick. what you gonna do in your free time? visit the local mcdonalds/pizza hut and hook up with 250 lb hambeasts on tinder?
Some people are happy with just living. They don't need to consume to enjoy life. Kind of strange, innit?
somehow turn this into an anti consumerist take to cope with your shitty life.
I eat chocolate and watch jerk off and I'm happy. You need more because you are pathetic and consumerist
Open up for the Walmart slop. Glad you've managed to find happiness in that.
Street savviness is learned by spending time on the streets and paying attention to what is going on.
Villa de Leyva, Boyaca, Colombia is a destination I would recommend. While most of Colombia is a messy mestizo dump, Villa de Leyva is extremely traditional, peaceful and friendly in a formally polite way. Also boring, but that's part and parcel of being a safe and peaceful small town. The hiking nearby is great if you like nature.
I've never been to Merida, Yucatan, Mexico, but the state has a violent crime rate on par with the safest US states. Last year they saw below 2 murders / 100K. If you want sunny hot winter weather and the best of Mexico without the ugly parts, Merida looks to be a good place to stay.
Uruguay does have a high COL for Latin America, but rent tends to be very affordable compared to the USA. Goods and services are where you will pay First World prices.
I seriously doubt you can get a top-tier modern beachfront apartment for 1300/month anywhere in the South. Lakefront if you are Midwest.
>I seriously doubt you can get a top-tier modern beachfront apartment for 1300/month anywhere in the South.
Texas here. $1300 will get you a one room studio, but unfurnished
Vancouver. I don’t think I could get a studio for less than $1800 USD.
You might be able to find something decent in Virginia Beach, but it won't be as nice and it'll be in Virginia Beach, which has its disadvantages
cope, nerd. 757 4 life
Hey man, I like getting drunk, going fishing, football, and listening to either hard rock or Pharrell too, but I also like other things sometimes. Hampton Roads doesn't have have other things.
>Villa de Leyva, Boyaca, Colombia
That's the biggest tourist trap ever. Don't take this as an insult to your tastes but more as a tip of what you'd be up against if you decide to go.
t. Colombia
Would 2 weeks in Antioquia be a good trip? I am not a beach guy
I saw virtually no tourists when I visited in February 2021. Food and lodging were quite cheap, even by Colombian standards. Maybe it is crowded again, have you been recently?
>I saw virtually no tourists when I visited in February 2021
Are you moronic?
Yeah but you can get the same in Argentina for 300 a month, which is arguably better than Uruguay
What about Dominican Republic?
How would you describe the faces in that picture?
Looksmatched.
Massive upscale city-sized neighborhood like Barra da Tijuca in Rio?
Not Spanish speaking and you'll probably get bored and go into Rio anyways, but it is a nice place to stay if you're worried about safety at night.
Bogotá is okay if you stay in El Centro and avoid going out at night. You’ll probably be fine at night if you take cabs, I just wasn’t into it. There are cops literally everywhere there. If you’re going for women stay somewhere with a doorman and make sure they take your date’s IDs. Drugging + robbing happens quite a bit down there, though if you do some basic screening through Instagram you can generally avoid it. If a girl presents or behaves like a prostitute she definitely is one and you should exfiltrate yourself from the situation. Women aren’t forward there but if they like you most will have sex with you reasonably quickly. It’s a conservative culture so they don’t want to come across as loose, but they also enjoy the company of men a lot more than North American women.
I found it helped to make friends online first to study the language. These can be girls or guys. Avoid Tinder and dating apps in general, they’re mostly full of working girls and scammers.
I went out at night frequently in Colombia. The streets were surprisingly well-lit, and traffic was lighter than in the daytime. Good luck finding food, unless you want something that has been sitting out all day. A note about Bogota and cooming: the city is obsessed with fashion, so bring your clothes game as well as your Spanish game.
The streets in Bogotá are only really lit up in certain neighborhoods. I stayed in El Centro and I wouldn’t go north of my building for any reason at night. The trouble isn’t really the light, it’s that there won’t be anyone outdoors. The streets are deserted by around 8:00 PM most nights.
The food there was great, I don’t know why people complain about it. There is a cafe next to the National Museum that has really good food. If there’s top tier vegan food in Cali, you can find something normal to eat in Bogotá. I do agree that you should avoid the street food. First and only thing I tried gave me diarrhea. I never had that problem at any of the restaurants I ate at.
It’s true about clothes, Colombians are very image conscious. I didn’t dress up but I had a nice sweater and a collared shirt. Wear shoes that look nice but that aren’t expensive. I ruined a pair stepping into one of Bogotá’s many potholes. The words “Slip and Fall Hazard” don’t translate well into Spanish.
>the food was great
What food, specifically? If you are one of those people who love bunuelos or arepas, sorry anon, our definitions of "great food" does not match.
mondongo, chorizos, sancocho, there's a lot of stuff. the fruit is great too especially when mangotseens are in season
>Bogotá is okay if you stay in El Centro
huh?
You should be way uptown, dude.
I can't answer your question as, even though I was born and raised in LA, I've only been to a handful of countries. But what foreigners have to understand about LA is that our societies are really unequal and having a good standard of living here is not as cheap as people think.
If you want access to good hospitals, dining, nightlife, etc. you'll have to live in a big city. For safety reasons (and easy access to those places), you'll have to live in a good neighborhood. Is rent cheaper than manhattan neighborhoods, London, Paris? Yes. Is it cheaper than Ljubljana or a city in the midwest? I am not so sure.
Clothes, cars and electronics are more expensive in LA most of the times. Having staff (driver, maid, cook) is definitely cheaper (2-4 hundred dollars a month and you hire one). Wanna have a drink in a bar or have a meal in a humble place? Much cheaper. Fine dining? Varies a lot. In Buenos Aires I would say it is cheaper. In Sao Paulo usually more expensive...
I would say Chile and Uruguay are the safest places with a good standard of living. The latter is a bit boring though. I've spent a week there and think it is enough. Chile is more diverse (not in the reddit sense). But can't say much about it besides Santiago.
Argentina has good cities but crime is rising. Their economy is shitty though so you do get a good time if you have a powerful currency. Rent in a good neighborhood in Buenos Aires is not that cheap nowadays, specially with landlords charging it in usd due the inflation.
I've lived in LA. You really don't need that much money to have a really good life and save if your salary comes from a western country.
For $600 you can get a 3-bedroom house in the capital, 15 minutes from the city center and near a bus station.
Santiago vs Buenos Aires? BA seems like a great city with nothing to do outside, whereas Santiago has skiing and ocean within 2hrs of each other.
>BA seems like a great city with nothing to do outside
That sounds about right. THey do have a big park though, kind of like central park. But Santiago beats them on that front too with that big mountain whatever it's called.
BA has its charm but it can be a difficult city to live in because of how broke the country is. Even when times were better they had constant blackouts int eh middle of summer. Protests there have always been a daily occurence and encampments of either homeless people or protesters even in the Plaza de Mayo.
You are more likely to get sunburn in Chile if that matters to you. They often have that ozone problem, along with Peru.
Mexico is safer than people think, don't let the media scare you.
Costa Rica is chill but popping; a lot of Colombians are moving there.
Colombians are moving to Costa Rica? I thought it was mostly US / Canadian migrants there.
You don't have to go anywhere far, head to Brooklyn. Bushwick these days should be changed to BushSpic.
I'm from Ireland originally so I fricking loathe the oppressive heat. Where's a sensibly temperate area to go and try to live for a year? I spent the last 7 years living in Texas and I'm fricking done with the big heat but I'd still like to give SoAm a shot. Where to?
Where are you in Texas? I am here. Are you a grill?
I'm in Parker County. I have an acre of land, which is something I dig because I can work on my classic cars but the 6 months of 110 tier temps is grim. Also, am not a grill.
Nice area actually. Real Texas
It would be alright if it wasn't for the 6 months of the sauna. The people are nice, the bbq is good. But with the massive inflation I'm trying to eye somewhere cheaper (from our point of view) and cooler.
>Are you a grill?
Argentina is cheap and has regular seasons. I hate to recommend Medellin, but it also mild weather
Cheers lad
Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil's southernmost state. It frequently snows there during winter, plus the two states furthest south (this one included) are majority white with the safest cities and highest quality of living. Real is 5:1 with dollar, so for 500$ you can rent a really high tier apartment. Enjoy Germanic, Japanese and Italic blooded Brazilian bunda.
The rich neighborhoods (Miraflores, San Isidro) of Lima are really nice and probably safer than any major US city. The only downsides are the gray weather and the crazy traffic.
I spent 3 weeks in San Lorenzo in Paraguay. In total I spent $300 for the car, $300 for the Airbnb, and $900 for the flight. Food was cheap, a whole month of groceries cost less than $20 but I spent more from PedidosYa
>safe
I can't tell you, yeah I went out during the day and nothing happened but at night (after 8pm) I was in my room