California no question. All sorts of biodiversity and landscapes, huge cities, rural areas, and natural wonders.
Californians wrote this. They're the most arrogant and self-centered "people" in this whole country and they often boast about their state despite living in the absolute worst part in SoCal. "California is the best because we have every eco system, ocean, mountains, palm trees, some places don't need air or heat all year round, bla bla bla"
Look we get it, you live in a giant coastal state that takes up over half the west coast in some of the north and the south (half of which is a desert). Redwood forest is nice. Tahoe area is nice. Wine country is beautiful. Take away the AIDS and the Bay Area is kinda nice. But you can't take that away. You can't remove the politics or lower the coast of living. You can't deport the 5 generations of Mexicans that share single 1400 square houses in the LA area. There are hidden gems all over the country that Californias are completely oblivious to, they're not all in just their shitty half-desert state. The best part of California is the interior between the mountainous ranges, the part that isn't desert. And that's the part Californians don't live in and rarely go to even though they brag about their national parks and forests. They don't go to them they live around LA or San gaycisco and rarely leave. And LA is absolute SHIT but that's what they're really bragging about when they brag about how great they are
Texas sucks. It’s a massive state full of nothing. The gulf coastline is the most boring in the country, most of the nature is ugly. It’s actually quite shocking how devoid of worthwhile spots there are in Texas. San Antonio is alright but kinda ghetto and rundown. I will not give credit to the Alamo since it’s a stupid myth created by Texans at how they got their asses handed to them during that battle
You wouldn't be so mad if you didn't know deep down that they were right. The coast from Newport Beach to La Jolla is the best place in the US that isn't Maui.
Western WA is frequently the victim of right wing smear campaigns, especially after the whole CHOP/CHAZ situation. People legitimately think it’s some kind of war zone and you’re taking your life into your hands when stepping outside but in reality it’s just passive aggressive gay hipsters drinking coffee around bums that have learned no one will check them on their shit. As someone from the East coast that now lives in Seattle, it’s a joke. Very nice place but with very passive people that allow the homeless to act like dickheads. All it takes to scare a homeless person away here is to be firm and direct, something they don’t encounter much because the locals are all introverts. Besides all that, it’s a beautiful state with nice infrastructure and a very good QOL.
Yes, rule of thumb is to make 3x your rent. At 4k per month your upper limit is $1333 in rent, which will land you a studio apartment if you dig deep enough. If you travel south a bit but stay close to the light rail you can find cheaper housing while still having access to the city via train. Here is an actual budget I’ve made for myself and I have a similar income. The other thing is that you can likely find a higher salary in your field once you actually move here. For instance, I’m a software developer but my job is based out of KY so I make only 60k/year. I plan on getting my resume together and interviewing for the same position but at least double the pay.
Unfortunately, I’m a lazy loser and I won’t be able to break above 60k HOWEVER I do genuinely appreciate this post. I live in Denver but I want to move further west and between Portland and Seattle it seems Seattle is more comfy. Plus Alice In Chains
Nebraska and Utah are better states to live in than Colorado? You gotta be fricking kidding me.
New Hampshire is all right, but I don't think it deserves to outrank Vermont or Maine, both of which have nicer towns on the whole.
New Jersey better than Arizona? What bullshit.
I'm from the PNW, and I think Idaho and Montana are the best now. Not happy with how things have gone in Portland, Seattle, and even the smaller cities around - it has gotten simultaneously worse, in terms of QOL, and in terms of cost.
Eastern states are relatively small so hard to conclusively say any of them are the best when there are fewer sights there. New England and any of the states there are beautiful. Florida can be nice in a few places if you avoid the gated boomer communities that dot the state, and the rednecks in the swamps
Also to add that most of the state is overdeveloped and suburbanised to the point where it’s soulless and barely has a genuine identity of its own, outside of Miami and maybe Tampa. Drive down a highway and it’s all chain restaurants and gift shops selling oranges
Probably Oregon, (OUTSIDE OF PORTLAND) runner up would be Colorado
Northern Cali is pretty comfy
East Washington is trashy but west of I 5 is peak soul
Idaho would be up there if the M*rm*ns weren't busy keeping them stuck in the 1800s
Northern New England is nice but then you have to deal with their winters, also good luck finding a job there.
Southern New England is just HOA inbred WASPs and brownoids
Deep South would be ideal if you have a bunch of money laying around, but then that means having to deal with S*utherners.
Alaska and Montana are decent if you can deal with the cold, legal weed but no actual Libtards. Rare combo indeed
Northern Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota may be viable if you don't care about having things to actually do, the people get annoying very quickly tho.
Here you have 3 maybe 4 months of nice weather but the rest of the year is fricking horrible, at least up north the cold gives you energy, better than having 90F+ heat index at 8:30 in the morning Cost of living isn't horrible ASIDE from rent but DeSanctimonius is making sure this won't stay true for long. Spanish is basically a necessity anywhere from Orlando down, Florida really is a hotter, flatter Chud version of Hawaii. As much as I love this state it's getting worse and worse by the day. Even the rural parts are getting fricked.
New York, but specifically Long Island.
pros: >beaches (good clean ones) >close enough to NYC for access, but far enough away >easy enough to day trip upstate for mountains >3 airports to get basically anywhere at any time >good pizza all around with a short trip for GREAT pizza >generally any kind of restaurant there is at least an okay and good example here
cons: >expensive, a 2bed-1bath house is easily over 500k with ~8k/yr in property tax >rot, it's an island in the north atlantic surrounded by salt water and beseiged by varying temps in the winter so lots of salted roads, you are lucky if a car lasts 10yrs. >traffic, it's >7m in 20mile x 100mile island the traffic sucks
If you can earn >120k/yr I'd honestly say you'd be hard pressed to find a better place.
I've never been to USA (actually I did in 1999 but that doesn't count because different world back then plus I was like 8) anyway I've never been to USA and and here is my opinion on the states
Good states: >New Hampshire? Vermont? Never heard anything bad about the New England region >Nevada - Seems like a cool state with the hookers and gambling >Alaska - Seems like a do-whatever-the-frick-you-want state. Heard there's no taxes either.
Bad states: >Florida - Full of crazies apparently >New Jersey - Heard it's a crime-ridden shithole >Mississippi - Doesn't even have running water according to news reports >Oregon - Some say it's woke, some say it's Nazi, either way it sounds bad. >Illinois - More crime >Utah - Weird religious cults
My personal choice after eight years' traveling is Colorado. I love living at altitude, and Colorado mogs every other state in the altitude department. Winters get very cold at night, but they are much sunnier than in the northern states. Spring is tough; March and April are probably the worst months here, even as the rest of the country sees the start of milder weather. Summers at 8000+ ft altitude are the best anywhere in America, and early fall is usually perfect as well. Colorado has beautiful, safe, walkable towns with lots of life. Coloradans are not the kind of people who go around befriending randoms on the street; there are simply too many tourists and vagabonds for that to happen. But if you put yourself out there, bring good energy, and buy from local producers, you will make many lasting personal and professional acquaintances up here.
Politics and cost of living aside, it's California. Factoring those two in, it's either Texas or Florida.
Californians wrote this. They're the most arrogant and self-centered "people" in this whole country and they often boast about their state despite living in the absolute worst part in SoCal. "California is the best because we have every eco system, ocean, mountains, palm trees, some places don't need air or heat all year round, bla bla bla"
Look we get it, you live in a giant coastal state that takes up over half the west coast in some of the north and the south (half of which is a desert). Redwood forest is nice. Tahoe area is nice. Wine country is beautiful. Take away the AIDS and the Bay Area is kinda nice. But you can't take that away. You can't remove the politics or lower the coast of living. You can't deport the 5 generations of Mexicans that share single 1400 square houses in the LA area. There are hidden gems all over the country that Californias are completely oblivious to, they're not all in just their shitty half-desert state. The best part of California is the interior between the mountainous ranges, the part that isn't desert. And that's the part Californians don't live in and rarely go to even though they brag about their national parks and forests. They don't go to them they live around LA or San gaycisco and rarely leave. And LA is absolute SHIT but that's what they're really bragging about when they brag about how great they are
I had a Los Angelan dare to tell me that they had better tacos than San Antonio, TX and at that point I knew they were delusional.
Texas sucks. It’s a massive state full of nothing. The gulf coastline is the most boring in the country, most of the nature is ugly. It’s actually quite shocking how devoid of worthwhile spots there are in Texas. San Antonio is alright but kinda ghetto and rundown. I will not give credit to the Alamo since it’s a stupid myth created by Texans at how they got their asses handed to them during that battle
Yeah undeveloped land where you can literally have an entire beach to yourself. Have a fire, fish, shoot guns really sucks.
Yeah a bland coastal plain with oil rigs out in the distance is great. Literally any other coast in America is more interesting
You would rather see gift shops and homeless people?
>shooting guns on a beach
moronic American spotted
You wouldn't be so mad if you didn't know deep down that they were right. The coast from Newport Beach to La Jolla is the best place in the US that isn't Maui.
Based. And for all you California-deniers cope with this
>Big Sur
>Lake Tahoe
>Yosemite
>Mount Shasta
>Monterey Bay
>Imperial Dunes
>Mammoth
yes of course new york is three states away from the east coast THIS MAP FRICKING PISSED ME OFF
why is washington always on top of these things
the western half is full of slums and homeless people and everything on the east is full of meth hicks
Western WA is frequently the victim of right wing smear campaigns, especially after the whole CHOP/CHAZ situation. People legitimately think it’s some kind of war zone and you’re taking your life into your hands when stepping outside but in reality it’s just passive aggressive gay hipsters drinking coffee around bums that have learned no one will check them on their shit. As someone from the East coast that now lives in Seattle, it’s a joke. Very nice place but with very passive people that allow the homeless to act like dickheads. All it takes to scare a homeless person away here is to be firm and direct, something they don’t encounter much because the locals are all introverts. Besides all that, it’s a beautiful state with nice infrastructure and a very good QOL.
Could I survive in Seattle if I make 4k after taxes?
Yes, rule of thumb is to make 3x your rent. At 4k per month your upper limit is $1333 in rent, which will land you a studio apartment if you dig deep enough. If you travel south a bit but stay close to the light rail you can find cheaper housing while still having access to the city via train. Here is an actual budget I’ve made for myself and I have a similar income. The other thing is that you can likely find a higher salary in your field once you actually move here. For instance, I’m a software developer but my job is based out of KY so I make only 60k/year. I plan on getting my resume together and interviewing for the same position but at least double the pay.
Unfortunately, I’m a lazy loser and I won’t be able to break above 60k HOWEVER I do genuinely appreciate this post. I live in Denver but I want to move further west and between Portland and Seattle it seems Seattle is more comfy. Plus Alice In Chains
>Be firm and direct
Yeah go hang out at Third and Pine and be firm and see how well that goes for you.
That’s the worst spot in the entire city and I’m there constantly with no issues. I’m a man if that matters.
Seattle has gone so far downhill it’s depressing. At least Sawant is done and NTK lost.
South Seattle (Burien, Kent, Fed) is so much better. Better food, better people, better everything.
The forests of western Washington are the most beautiful in America. But the people are meh, and there is too much gray dampness for my liking.
Nebraska and Utah are better states to live in than Colorado? You gotta be fricking kidding me.
New Hampshire is all right, but I don't think it deserves to outrank Vermont or Maine, both of which have nicer towns on the whole.
New Jersey better than Arizona? What bullshit.
if you’re just traveling, california or alaska
to live in, new England, Wisconsin or Minnesota
denial
>i just love the hustle and bustle of the big city, the vibrant citizens, the grittiness
The blue ones up north
I'm from the PNW, and I think Idaho and Montana are the best now. Not happy with how things have gone in Portland, Seattle, and even the smaller cities around - it has gotten simultaneously worse, in terms of QOL, and in terms of cost.
California no question. All sorts of biodiversity and landscapes, huge cities, rural areas, and natural wonders.
Alaska
Because it's far away from the shithole the lower 48 have become
Lmao eastern states not even mentioned. So best states are Cali and Washington? Any other contenders? Curious Non american here
Washington is actually shit.
Maine and Alaska seem pretty comfy but I've never been to either. Really never heard anything bad about Maine except for the winters.
Eastern states are relatively small so hard to conclusively say any of them are the best when there are fewer sights there. New England and any of the states there are beautiful. Florida can be nice in a few places if you avoid the gated boomer communities that dot the state, and the rednecks in the swamps
Also to add that most of the state is overdeveloped and suburbanised to the point where it’s soulless and barely has a genuine identity of its own, outside of Miami and maybe Tampa. Drive down a highway and it’s all chain restaurants and gift shops selling oranges
To see any kind of soul in this state you have to be at least a half hour from any interstate, which is much easier said than done
Washington and California is pretty much spot on.
Isn't the new England states really nice ?
Probably Oregon, (OUTSIDE OF PORTLAND) runner up would be Colorado
Northern Cali is pretty comfy
East Washington is trashy but west of I 5 is peak soul
Idaho would be up there if the M*rm*ns weren't busy keeping them stuck in the 1800s
Northern New England is nice but then you have to deal with their winters, also good luck finding a job there.
Southern New England is just HOA inbred WASPs and brownoids
Deep South would be ideal if you have a bunch of money laying around, but then that means having to deal with S*utherners.
Alaska and Montana are decent if you can deal with the cold, legal weed but no actual Libtards. Rare combo indeed
Northern Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota may be viable if you don't care about having things to actually do, the people get annoying very quickly tho.
Here you have 3 maybe 4 months of nice weather but the rest of the year is fricking horrible, at least up north the cold gives you energy, better than having 90F+ heat index at 8:30 in the morning Cost of living isn't horrible ASIDE from rent but DeSanctimonius is making sure this won't stay true for long. Spanish is basically a necessity anywhere from Orlando down, Florida really is a hotter, flatter Chud version of Hawaii. As much as I love this state it's getting worse and worse by the day. Even the rural parts are getting fricked.
>Best US state?
New Jersey.
>why?
Many states are better than Jersey but Jersey is still the best.
New York, but specifically Long Island.
pros:
>beaches (good clean ones)
>close enough to NYC for access, but far enough away
>easy enough to day trip upstate for mountains
>3 airports to get basically anywhere at any time
>good pizza all around with a short trip for GREAT pizza
>generally any kind of restaurant there is at least an okay and good example here
cons:
>expensive, a 2bed-1bath house is easily over 500k with ~8k/yr in property tax
>rot, it's an island in the north atlantic surrounded by salt water and beseiged by varying temps in the winter so lots of salted roads, you are lucky if a car lasts 10yrs.
>traffic, it's >7m in 20mile x 100mile island the traffic sucks
If you can earn >120k/yr I'd honestly say you'd be hard pressed to find a better place.
I've never been to USA (actually I did in 1999 but that doesn't count because different world back then plus I was like 8) anyway I've never been to USA and and here is my opinion on the states
Good states:
>New Hampshire? Vermont? Never heard anything bad about the New England region
>Nevada - Seems like a cool state with the hookers and gambling
>Alaska - Seems like a do-whatever-the-frick-you-want state. Heard there's no taxes either.
Bad states:
>Florida - Full of crazies apparently
>New Jersey - Heard it's a crime-ridden shithole
>Mississippi - Doesn't even have running water according to news reports
>Oregon - Some say it's woke, some say it's Nazi, either way it sounds bad.
>Illinois - More crime
>Utah - Weird religious cults
Bruh
LI is soulless. Westchester and Hudson valley wash it every time
Northeast
My personal choice after eight years' traveling is Colorado. I love living at altitude, and Colorado mogs every other state in the altitude department. Winters get very cold at night, but they are much sunnier than in the northern states. Spring is tough; March and April are probably the worst months here, even as the rest of the country sees the start of milder weather. Summers at 8000+ ft altitude are the best anywhere in America, and early fall is usually perfect as well. Colorado has beautiful, safe, walkable towns with lots of life. Coloradans are not the kind of people who go around befriending randoms on the street; there are simply too many tourists and vagabonds for that to happen. But if you put yourself out there, bring good energy, and buy from local producers, you will make many lasting personal and professional acquaintances up here.