All the American carriers are shot through with homosexuals. I flew Air Canada to Montreal a few weeks ago and the little homosexual on the crew walked around with a swayback that would have broken Kim Kardashian's spine.
Asia has the best airlines in the world and it's not even a contest at this point. I would never fly a domestic American airline unless I had no other choice.
Delta #1? No way when airlines like Singapore, ANA, and JAL exist. Lufthansa is fine, but a good portion are just average. You want bad? Try China Eastern or Tiger Air. Once had a stewardess tell me not to eat the food I brought on the plane and if I was hungry, I had to order from them instead
poorgay here. The gf wanted a good airline for a change and paid Qatar. Holy dissapointment
>China Eastern
I love these homies like you couldnt believe. The food is borderline inedible but you check in 2 23kg luggage EACH. And they are always the cheapest airline by far
This probably doesn't deserve its own thread so I'll ask here. Does anyone know roughly what Qatar airlines seat selection fee is?
They won't telI you until after you have purchased the ticket. This is for Economy Classic. I'm loathe to pay for Economy Convenience, which does include seat selection, as it's almost double the price. I'm wondering if the Classic will be cheaper even including the extra seat selection fee.
>Delta if its american its shit because its filled with sheboons so i would rate it the worst without even trying. The best is probably air asia, qatar air, emirates
Consider the volume of air travel internal to the US eclipses the entire rest of the world. The domestic carriers are more akin to mass transit busses than more premium international carriers. Just the nature of the business and their clientele.
flying coach in any airline sucks in general but whats the best coach? united and delta arent awful, its like an equivalent to a good subway experience
First class, you cant compete with Emirates, like goddamn.
It really depends on the class and how much are you paying
For economy JAL is the best I have flown but their business product is honestly below par for the amount they ask for it.
Whereas Air France's new business seats are insanely good for the price(below 2k eurobucks for a Japan trip on certain dates), but their economy is meh. KLM economy is a lot better and you still get flying blue points, but KLM world business class is more cramped than AF. But I like the ceramic gin filled deft blue houses you get so that offsets it somewhat
>But I like the ceramic gin filled deft blue houses you get
i like those too. i have a shelf full of them. i used to have one of the sheets where you can tick off the ones you've already got, like trading cards
i was a bit miffed to discover that on flights to/from some muslim countries they only give you the empty house with no genever and no seal on the chimney
(it's probably nasty undrinkable stuff anyway)
there are plenty on ebay. kind of surprising to see the range of prices. i guess some of them are more sought after than others
and you don't even have to fly to taiwan and back to get them (which i did, many times, back in the day)
Flew with Delta 3 weeks ago. Pretty good long haul flight, but by god Atlanta airport is a shithole. Major 3rd world vibes and these TSA people are an absolute joke. Southpark was spot on with them.
I genuinely think that's the case. other than the 1st class not being as good. but i don't fly 1st class, anything more than premium economy is a waste of money
The eye candy is enough. It is simply a reflection of my beliefs of what kind of society, roles, and business practices I choose to support and not support. Voting with my wallet, if you will.
Has nothing to do with sex. Attractive staff, in particular attractive young women with good attitudes, make for a significantly superior service and aesthetic experience. Why anyone would argue this is beyond me.
Also its kind of an unfair comparison since most people's experience with Delta is domestic flight while Singapore is necessarily intl and most likely on an A350 which is guaranteed to be a better/comfier than basically anything Delta has without even considering the service aspect (tho Singapore does have better service, too).
he's right tho. whenever i have flown on an american airline i have always had the feeling that the crew think that the passengers are just a hindrance. are they expecting a tip or something?
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>american airline...passengers are just a hindrance
Do you know the first thing about Americans lol? And nobody has better experience with that repulsive bunch more so than domestic airline crews.
Pretty much everything is worse. The hard product and soft product are leagues apart. American airlines are generally far behind the competition but still ahead of most shitty European airlines.
seriously, no arguments anywhere.
I don't have much international experience but my domestic experience with Delta is that it's solid and reliable. Nothing special as far as low prices or amenities, hot stewardesses and other useless frippery, just friendly and effective customer service, predictable flights and on-time arrivals. Atlanta airport sucks but I'm used to it and almost never have any real problems there. Delta delivers exactly what I need out of an airline.
Are you saying it's not? Delta has better OTP than Singapore this is fact. But my point is more that you homosexuals aren't criticizing anything useful.
What are you moronic? Everything is worse. That means the boarding process, the seats, the food, the service, the staff, etc. Everything is worse. You have almost on international experience so chances are you're a wagie who's been on less than five airlines in your entire life. Your input has no real value.
Seats and food are pointless trivialities. Staffing matters but not the eye candy everyone talks about.
The shit that matters is invisible to blowhards like you. Maintenance, administration, reliability, etc
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>Seats and food are pointless trivialities
Maybe to wagie manlets like you. If you want to fly 15 hours of coach to Japan that's on you.
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soft
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poor
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Are you saying it's not? Delta has better OTP than Singapore this is fact. But my point is more that you homosexuals aren't criticizing anything useful.
>its better in these ways that make the experience far more enjoyable >no those dont count
shut up homosexual. also your original point appeared to be that Singapore is incompetent and has shitty maintenance which is obviously not true
I don't really keep score. My personal definition of a bad airline is an airline that has wronged me in some way.
I have two on the naughty list. Air Canada and China Airlines. Air Canada once sold me an invalid ticket and refused to take ownership of their frickup. China Airlines has rude gate agents that don't know their own policies.
Based on my flying experiences >best
Finnair
Air Baltic
Estonian air - Too bad it went out of business >worst
American airlines - Fricking dirty
United - Stinky and old
Ryanair - Literally a flying city bus
Honorable mention - Rossiya. They are generic not too bad, not too good
>Finnair
it's a while ago but i used finnair to travel the far east a few times. i remember that in business class they had a really awesome wine list. on one flight me and the guy sitting next to me resolved to try them all and basically drank all the way from helsinki to shanghai (i think it was). that was a good flight.
>enjoy your $500 cuckpod in the sky that you rent for a few hours
lol the fricking lengths poorgays will go to in order to try to justify their terrible life choices
I used to love Frontier when I was a kid because they were the only carrier that had seatback TVs on the one route I frequented. Havent flown them in ages now though
American airlines. Absolute frick those homosexuals >"hurrr we broke our equipment but we're going to pretend its the weather EVEN THOUGH OTHER PLANES ARE TAKING OFF so flight is cancelled oh and also all our employees are going home early today so you have no one to talk to in customer service :^^^^)"
West Jet once tried convincing me that they had a maintenance delay caused by someone shoving an oversized bag under the seat which destroyed a personal floatation device. It was 100% shortstaffing.
>spirit and frontier constantly worst
Am I the only one who likes them on this board? Fricking dirt cheap flights and since I know how to pack my carry on it's piss easy for a week or two get away on their ~100 dollar round trip flights. I get their service isn't on par with something like Singapore airlines or shit, but you kinda know that going in.
>Drinks aren't free. >Meals fricking suck. >They deliver special request meals in the middle of normal meal service, so right as you think you're about to get your food, you have to wait another 2 minutes for some gluten free homosexual to get their meal first. >They never come around to collect trash, so it builds up in empty seats, or worse, your seat. >Their 787s fit 10 across instead of 9. >Website and mobile app are a fricking joke.
I'm probably forgetting shit that I've since tried to block out, but serously, frick British Airways.
I had never flown in Europe before and one time I paid extra to fly BA instead of Ryanair from Manchester to Malta thinking it would be a real plane/seat configuration and then lost my shit when I realized it was still budget configuration
What's the deal with easyJet? First time I'll be using them and the cost was too low to ignore. Is it just that good or am I getting a mile high shank?
If you don't need any kind of service and are ok with a 45 x 36 x 20cm carry-on (they charge 50€ for any normal size cabin bag) it's ok. Else you can as well book any legacy carrier and get a way better deal.
this
but they cancelled 3 flights for me last year so now I only use them for return flights when I don't mind them cancelling and I can shaft them for expensive hotel bookings. c**ts
singapore air used to be good but last couple flights i had the other passengers were literal trash, families of actual middle eastern morons climbing on seats, throwing food around & the cabin crew just ignore them
is this just the new normal for economy?
I'm taking Economy only. What are the differences between ana and jal? I see you can bring 2 checked baggages on ana. Any tips on the seat selection? I want a window one. Left side or right side of the plane? Front, mid or back? What about those special seats where you need to help passengers if something goes bad( but in return you have more leg room) ? What about the part where they claim they could switch my seat for a family and its babies? What's the point to pay extra for seat selectionif i can get fricked down the line??
Haven't flown Delta in many years but last time I flew they were pretty nice.
American is a fricking joke for being one of the "better" airlines (aka not spirit or southwest)
They don't even have screens built into the seats anymore because I guess you're supposed to use your phone or something. Also they don't serve booze anymore. Fricking shit airline. Might as well fly spirit.
>best
asian ones with only cute asian air stewardesses
>worst
western ones staffed with overweights, gays, and diversity hires
simple as
United airlines always has the incredibly gay dude, with a butch woman to balance things out.
KLM and EMirates have really hot stewardesses. KLM cuz its based in the Netheerlands, Emirates cuz its a requirement lol.
All the American carriers are shot through with homosexuals. I flew Air Canada to Montreal a few weeks ago and the little homosexual on the crew walked around with a swayback that would have broken Kim Kardashian's spine.
Asia has the best airlines in the world and it's not even a contest at this point. I would never fly a domestic American airline unless I had no other choice.
Delta #1? No way when airlines like Singapore, ANA, and JAL exist. Lufthansa is fine, but a good portion are just average. You want bad? Try China Eastern or Tiger Air. Once had a stewardess tell me not to eat the food I brought on the plane and if I was hungry, I had to order from them instead
poorgay here. The gf wanted a good airline for a change and paid Qatar. Holy dissapointment
>China Eastern
I love these homies like you couldnt believe. The food is borderline inedible but you check in 2 23kg luggage EACH. And they are always the cheapest airline by far
This probably doesn't deserve its own thread so I'll ask here. Does anyone know roughly what Qatar airlines seat selection fee is?
They won't telI you until after you have purchased the ticket. This is for Economy Classic. I'm loathe to pay for Economy Convenience, which does include seat selection, as it's almost double the price. I'm wondering if the Classic will be cheaper even including the extra seat selection fee.
You can pick them for free if you wait until a few days before the flight. Otherwise it's like $25 for the cheapest seats
Also make sure you select the seats before you check in, otherwise they will be automatically allocated
>Delta if its american its shit because its filled with sheboons so i would rate it the worst without even trying. The best is probably air asia, qatar air, emirates
>>Best
>1-Delta
a joke, surely
Domestically? No
Overall? Not even in the conversation as a bad joke
Delta is probably best US carrier but no US carrier can compete within ~top 10 internationally
Consider the volume of air travel internal to the US eclipses the entire rest of the world. The domestic carriers are more akin to mass transit busses than more premium international carriers. Just the nature of the business and their clientele.
ANA, JAL, Singapore, Qatar, Etihad, and Emirate are probably your best. Air France or Swiss is probably your best European airline.
If you're flying coach your opinion is worthless.
flying coach in any airline sucks in general but whats the best coach? united and delta arent awful, its like an equivalent to a good subway experience
First class, you cant compete with Emirates, like goddamn.
>HAVE THE SAME SETUP AT HOME
>IT'S MY BEDROOM
I AM LIVING THE FIRST CLASS LIFE.
So do you sleep strapped down ? Wth happens if you hit severe turbulence?
there is no turbulence in first class. that part of the plane is surrounded by giant shock absorbing springs.
It really depends on the class and how much are you paying
For economy JAL is the best I have flown but their business product is honestly below par for the amount they ask for it.
Whereas Air France's new business seats are insanely good for the price(below 2k eurobucks for a Japan trip on certain dates), but their economy is meh. KLM economy is a lot better and you still get flying blue points, but KLM world business class is more cramped than AF. But I like the ceramic gin filled deft blue houses you get so that offsets it somewhat
>But I like the ceramic gin filled deft blue houses you get
i like those too. i have a shelf full of them. i used to have one of the sheets where you can tick off the ones you've already got, like trading cards
i was a bit miffed to discover that on flights to/from some muslim countries they only give you the empty house with no genever and no seal on the chimney
(it's probably nasty undrinkable stuff anyway)
I liked that I could get free wine on Air Frwnce
That was an option on all long haul economy I flew so far
iirc the only special thing they do serve champage in economy too
>them houses tho
I want one of these lil homies so bad bros
there are plenty on ebay. kind of surprising to see the range of prices. i guess some of them are more sought after than others
and you don't even have to fly to taiwan and back to get them (which i did, many times, back in the day)
I flew international business with Air Canada and all I got was a cheap bag of toiletries. They fricked up my connecting flight home, too.
Flew with Delta 3 weeks ago. Pretty good long haul flight, but by god Atlanta airport is a shithole. Major 3rd world vibes and these TSA people are an absolute joke. Southpark was spot on with them.
>Jetblue
>worst
what? Jetblue is great. They always have hot stewardesses and comfy flights
jetblue has always been solid for me atleast flying in the states cant speak for int flights
Air Canada and westjet are total shite
what exactly is worse about Delta compared to Singapore or JAL?
I've never had a bad experience with Delta
America bad
I genuinely think that's the case. other than the 1st class not being as good. but i don't fly 1st class, anything more than premium economy is a waste of money
see
lmao
you getting sex from the stewardesses then? swarthy SighSee poster
The eye candy is enough. It is simply a reflection of my beliefs of what kind of society, roles, and business practices I choose to support and not support. Voting with my wallet, if you will.
Has nothing to do with sex. Attractive staff, in particular attractive young women with good attitudes, make for a significantly superior service and aesthetic experience. Why anyone would argue this is beyond me.
Also its kind of an unfair comparison since most people's experience with Delta is domestic flight while Singapore is necessarily intl and most likely on an A350 which is guaranteed to be a better/comfier than basically anything Delta has without even considering the service aspect (tho Singapore does have better service, too).
Getting incel vibes
he's right tho. whenever i have flown on an american airline i have always had the feeling that the crew think that the passengers are just a hindrance. are they expecting a tip or something?
>american airline...passengers are just a hindrance
Do you know the first thing about Americans lol? And nobody has better experience with that repulsive bunch more so than domestic airline crews.
Getting annoying homosexual vibes
Missing your connection due to shitty maintenance or operator incompetence is fine so long as the stewardesses are hot.
Pretty much everything is worse. The hard product and soft product are leagues apart. American airlines are generally far behind the competition but still ahead of most shitty European airlines.
that says nothing
what is worse
seriously, no arguments anywhere.
I don't have much international experience but my domestic experience with Delta is that it's solid and reliable. Nothing special as far as low prices or amenities, hot stewardesses and other useless frippery, just friendly and effective customer service, predictable flights and on-time arrivals. Atlanta airport sucks but I'm used to it and almost never have any real problems there. Delta delivers exactly what I need out of an airline.
>I dont have much intl experience
Then you have nothing to say on domestic vs intl carriers
>shitty maintenance and operator incompetence
Are you asserting that this is more of an issue with Singapore and JAL than Delta? Because if not its a total non sequitur
Are you saying it's not? Delta has better OTP than Singapore this is fact. But my point is more that you homosexuals aren't criticizing anything useful.
What are you moronic? Everything is worse. That means the boarding process, the seats, the food, the service, the staff, etc. Everything is worse. You have almost on international experience so chances are you're a wagie who's been on less than five airlines in your entire life. Your input has no real value.
Seats and food are pointless trivialities. Staffing matters but not the eye candy everyone talks about.
The shit that matters is invisible to blowhards like you. Maintenance, administration, reliability, etc
>Seats and food are pointless trivialities
Maybe to wagie manlets like you. If you want to fly 15 hours of coach to Japan that's on you.
soft
poor
>its better in these ways that make the experience far more enjoyable
>no those dont count
shut up homosexual. also your original point appeared to be that Singapore is incompetent and has shitty maintenance which is obviously not true
pilots on american airlines are all on drugs and carry guns on board. it is only a matter of time before one of them goes postal during a flight
>Delta
Wut.
I don't really keep score. My personal definition of a bad airline is an airline that has wronged me in some way.
I have two on the naughty list. Air Canada and China Airlines. Air Canada once sold me an invalid ticket and refused to take ownership of their frickup. China Airlines has rude gate agents that don't know their own policies.
Air Canada sucks balls
How is Turkish Airlines these days
Based on my flying experiences
>best
Finnair
Air Baltic
Estonian air - Too bad it went out of business
>worst
American airlines - Fricking dirty
United - Stinky and old
Ryanair - Literally a flying city bus
Honorable mention - Rossiya. They are generic not too bad, not too good
>Finnair
it's a while ago but i used finnair to travel the far east a few times. i remember that in business class they had a really awesome wine list. on one flight me and the guy sitting next to me resolved to try them all and basically drank all the way from helsinki to shanghai (i think it was). that was a good flight.
>Ryanair - Literally a flying city bus
>anon needs more
enjoy your $500 cuckpod in the sky that you rent for a few hours
>enjoy your $500 cuckpod in the sky that you rent for a few hours
lol the fricking lengths poorgays will go to in order to try to justify their terrible life choices
Air france is on the naughty list until they upgrade the cabin of their a350's and stop flying their 772 shit boxes
Best:
ANA
JAL
Finnair
Worst:
Spirit
Frontier
South West
I doubt anyone here ever heard of Spirit or Frontier but they are US carriers.
I used to love Frontier when I was a kid because they were the only carrier that had seatback TVs on the one route I frequented. Havent flown them in ages now though
Do not ever fly Frontier or Spirit. Even if you had to pay like $100 more opt for JetBlue or United.
>pay more for United
>oh nice no Black folk
>a few moments later...
American airlines. Absolute frick those homosexuals
>"hurrr we broke our equipment but we're going to pretend its the weather EVEN THOUGH OTHER PLANES ARE TAKING OFF so flight is cancelled oh and also all our employees are going home early today so you have no one to talk to in customer service :^^^^)"
West Jet once tried convincing me that they had a maintenance delay caused by someone shoving an oversized bag under the seat which destroyed a personal floatation device. It was 100% shortstaffing.
Best: Delta, Japan Airlines, KLM
Worst: Air Canada, Spirit, Frontier
>spirit and frontier constantly worst
Am I the only one who likes them on this board? Fricking dirt cheap flights and since I know how to pack my carry on it's piss easy for a week or two get away on their ~100 dollar round trip flights. I get their service isn't on par with something like Singapore airlines or shit, but you kinda know that going in.
Qatar pre-pandemic was one of the best airlines. Nowadays they're delta-tier. Can't speak for any of the other oil-money based airlines
How is Air India? LOL
>flying in a tube with pajeets for 14h
Surprised nobody has mentioned how shit BA is.
>Drinks aren't free.
>Meals fricking suck.
>They deliver special request meals in the middle of normal meal service, so right as you think you're about to get your food, you have to wait another 2 minutes for some gluten free homosexual to get their meal first.
>They never come around to collect trash, so it builds up in empty seats, or worse, your seat.
>Their 787s fit 10 across instead of 9.
>Website and mobile app are a fricking joke.
I'm probably forgetting shit that I've since tried to block out, but serously, frick British Airways.
I had never flown in Europe before and one time I paid extra to fly BA instead of Ryanair from Manchester to Malta thinking it would be a real plane/seat configuration and then lost my shit when I realized it was still budget configuration
I’ve only flown BA from BOS-LHR but they were fine on multiple occasions. Pretty much the same as Lufthansa but with friendlier flight attendants.
Lufthansa just has shitty food
At least they're finally upgrading their business to be 1-2-1
What's the deal with easyJet? First time I'll be using them and the cost was too low to ignore. Is it just that good or am I getting a mile high shank?
Same deal as ryanair or wizzair
If you don't need any kind of service and are ok with a 45 x 36 x 20cm carry-on (they charge 50€ for any normal size cabin bag) it's ok. Else you can as well book any legacy carrier and get a way better deal.
this
but they cancelled 3 flights for me last year so now I only use them for return flights when I don't mind them cancelling and I can shaft them for expensive hotel bookings. c**ts
meant to say
this
singapore air used to be good but last couple flights i had the other passengers were literal trash, families of actual middle eastern morons climbing on seats, throwing food around & the cabin crew just ignore them
is this just the new normal for economy?
What route was it so I can avoid it? Seems like this is probably more region dependent
singapore-perth
Japan airlines VS All nippon airways, who wins when departing from france?
JAL if economy, ANA if business
I'm taking Economy only. What are the differences between ana and jal? I see you can bring 2 checked baggages on ana. Any tips on the seat selection? I want a window one. Left side or right side of the plane? Front, mid or back? What about those special seats where you need to help passengers if something goes bad( but in return you have more leg room) ? What about the part where they claim they could switch my seat for a family and its babies? What's the point to pay extra for seat selectionif i can get fricked down the line??
JAL has the best economy seats on the market currently and their 787s are 2-4-2 layout
Don't give a shit about the rest of your autism questions
Everytime I've flown SAS it's been a pleasure. Never had a bad experience personally.
Airasia
Haven't flown Delta in many years but last time I flew they were pretty nice.
American is a fricking joke for being one of the "better" airlines (aka not spirit or southwest)
They don't even have screens built into the seats anymore because I guess you're supposed to use your phone or something. Also they don't serve booze anymore. Fricking shit airline. Might as well fly spirit.