I am getting married in January, and am planning a honeymoon to Europe. I’m going to be leaving on January 10th so the plane tickets will be cheaper anywhere I go after the holidays. What country will have the best bang for my buck in Western Europe? Me and my wife don’t care about anything fancy, we want to see nature and historical sites. Is Switzerland or Sweden worth it?
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if you want to save money just cancel the wedding
Moldova
Isnt moldova really unsafe though
Only the Ukranian border is bad. As long as you act the same you would in countries like Croatia and Bosnia you'll be fine.
Ah frick as long as you stay away from Transinsitria or whatever is called you better off anywhere in eastern europe than literally everywhere else
Transnistria is perfectly safe too. Some anglo went there recently if you're interested, the Transnistria segment begins at about 27:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O65dP6ad9bg
>Isnt moldova really unsafe though
if you are coming from america, its safer than downtowns in major us cities.
The russians will try to fight you for no reason, not worth it
You're right. Stay home.
Switzerland is not worth it, for anything. Sub literally anything you want to do in Switzerland with Italy, you will probably pay 10%.
>cheapest
>Switzerland
lol? Just go to Portugal
I would go there. Is it reasonable?
Portugal is insanely reasonable as long as you don't stay in Lisbon and Porto the whole time. Even then Porto is still a bargain for the quality of food and drink you can get.
Cyprus might be a good choice. Dollarydoos go far there and they speak English. It's also stunningly beautiful. If you insist on going to one of the larger mainland countries, probably Spain.
Bulgaria
Bulgaria is only the cheapest because it's the eastest country in the euro zone, the lev is pegged to the euro
Georgia has almost doubled in price in these last few years, a combination of a war on either side of them, collapse of tourism over covid. Probably still cheap but if you're just repeating what you've heard you better check yourself.
How is malta, I've been meaning to go there
I'd recommend budapest,vienna, prague.
France isn't actually that expensive, go to Paris don't let the realtravrlers shit on you.
European rail is great, you don't spend 3 hours in an airport on each side so as soon as you're "in Europe" you can go anywhere. Don't feel bad about skipping through an entire country if you don't really want to go there.
If you want to save money just keep a bag of sandwiches and stuff from the grocery store, you'll quickly tire of eating out. Accommodation and attractions cost money but that's what you're there for, the only thing I ever regretted was not going to more attractions
Turkey in the off season, or Georgia if you include them as Europe.
Haven’t been since Covid, but southern Spain and Portugal were cheap as shit when I did them with my mum in 2019. Decent b&bs in historical center of places like Granada and Cordoba were like 60€, wine and tapas for 2 was like 12€. Would make a great honeymoon.
>when I did them with my mum
Funnily enough, I did your mum too. In the arse.
Sweden in the winter is a dark and cold place, unless you like skiing I recommend you come here in the summer when it's actually comfortable outside and the sun is up for more than 5 hours a day
why do zoomer women constantly lick their lips suggestively, it's cringe
you do realize that is a drawing
Malta is really cheap and a lot of historical stuff to see for such a small island. Not really nature, it's mostly built up, but some nice vistas and coastlines on Gozo.
Spain in the winter is very nice and cheap. I assume Portugal is the same unless you're on the med coast
>see nature
january is the worst time for hiking in switzerland. you can go skiing in january, but thats expensive and snow isnt guaranteed, unless you go very high up, because climate change has wrecked the winters hard here. we barely had any snow last winter and temps were so high, bees were still buzzing around at christmas eve.
Who the hell makes a thread about cheap Europe and mentions Switzerland and Sweden? Do you evwn know enough to even point to europe on a map...?
eurozone inflation for the last 2 years was crazy high and is still running rampant. meanwhile switzerland had no inflation spike and the swiss franc even lost in value. switzerland might not be so expensive anymore.
>switzerland might not be so expensive anymore
Nah it's still expensive, or at least as expensive as major cities in the UK and Canada. If you're driving road tolls and the over 9000 speed cameras will frick you in the ass.
Swiss franc is on parity with euro now. It is definitely even more expensive than before.
Switzerland is pretty much the same price tag as NYC, Boston or Honolulu for travelers. Say for backpacker standards you can plan with 120-160USD per day anything above that it's more like 250-300 per day.
>I WANT TO GO TO EUROPE LIKE THE GIRLS ON INSTAGRAM
>honey, you know I don't earn that kind of money
>I WANNA GO TO EUROPE AND TAKE PHOTOS ON THE BEACHES
>one day we will, honey, once this house is paid off
>NOOOOOOO! THAT b***h STACEY ON FACEBOOK WENT TO CYPRUS I WANNA GOOOO
>honey, we have to keep things simple - my job doesn't -
>NOOOOOOOOOOO! WERE GOING TO EUROPE OR IM NOT MARRYING YOU!!!!!! ANOOON WHAT THE HELLLLLLLLL TAKE ME TO EUROPE RIGHT NOW!!!!!!
>*sigh* let me see what I can come up with...
Nature and historical site..
In western Europe ?
Portugal
In eastern Europe ?
Romania
>Cheapest
>Switzerland
Anon, you sound confused.
Bulgaria
Go to Ireland or Portugal. Those are the cheapest flights from the US. Stay in Northern Ireland or smaller towns for cheaper hotels and take the train places.
Cheapest flights I've seen are to iceland which is also super reasonable if you like camping. Just rent a campervan and go around the ringroad. Super beautiful.
>we want to see nature and historical sites.
Turkey would give you the most bang for your buck (cheap food, cheap accomodation, cheap rentals) and also has the best greek/roman historical sites. They have tons of impressive mountains too. Consider a roadtrip through Lycia, looping from Antalya to Fehiye/Dalaman and back. January wont be the greatest for weather, but everywhere in Europe will be worse.
Honestly just go to Egypt, it'll be warm, tons of cool sites and much cheaper than Europe.
>cheap european vacation
>no one itt has mentioned hungary or czech republic
lol, lmao even. Just go to Budapest and Prague (3 days each), plus an overnight at a small town of your choice with nature nearby. You say you want it cheap but seriously give us a budget if you want a good answer instead of generalized recommendations
Eastern Europe is awful in January
What's your closest airport? The best option will depend on what direct routes you have access to since flights will be the biggest cost. If you really want the Euro experience on a shoestring you can just go to Quebec City.
Second this. Quebec City is also way whiter than France and the winter there is bright and snowy with lots of outdoor activities rather than rainy and dingy like most places in Europe.
Are you flying from the east or west coast of the US? If you're on the west coast, I'd do Rome. You can usually find $600 roundtrip flights in the winter on Lufthansa. The weather will be much nicer than in northern Europe, likely in the mid 50's every day. You'll also miss the crowds. Airbnbs in the city are cheap and there are a lot of units. You can get a huge, nice condo for 100/night in January. You don't have to spend a dime on tours in Rome. There is enough cool shit to just walk around and see. The high speed trains are great if you want to to go up and do Florence, Pisa and Verona too.
Go to Spain/Portugal, but not the over-tourist parts of Spain which all the Brits go if that makes sense. Plus you can get plane tickets (assuming NYC to Madrid) for $248 each way.
moldova
Tangential question.
Best, cheap, most frictionless (speaks english, easy access, etc) sex tourism cities in EU/East eu?
Context: I’m gonna be forced to marry in a year and half. Middle east so yeah, I gotta or Ill forfeit my dads money.
I have around $35k to blow for an entire year to experience “life” (coom), what would be the best bang for buck?
why is ur dad so hell bent on getting marrying
>historical sites
>nature
>best bang for buck
>western Europe
>January
The only place it's remotely worth it to spend your honeymoon this time of the year is in the south of Europe. Forget Switzerland and Sweden (lol), some anons said Portugal, but you should consider Andalusia in Spain, and especially Granada. Lots to do with a car, looks very nice, it's warm and plenty to see. You can try Greece mainland if you want to see more historical sites, and there's also considerable nature there.
This anon is right, eastern euro is deppressing and cold in jan.
If you want cheap stuff and monuments with great food go istambul.
If you want to cruise around and plan to spend more cash then southern spain and italy (Bologne for example) are a good hubs for sightseeing.
I dont recommend protugal just because of terrible food on the mainland, but if youre more into nature go azores, you can basicly cook youself a bbq each day ebcause of open air bbq parks that are everywhere (car is a must). This + the fact that azores have best dairy products and fruits in whole europe, its basicly best climate, its also not so pricy.
>Food in Portugal.
>Worse than Italy.
Most places I went in Italy were absolutely flavorless. The only bad thing about food in Portugal, is that it isn't super big on dairy, so it's a bit harder to find. Food in Portugal will be cheaper too.
>Doesn't even mention Madeira Island.
It's warmer there and the nature is better than the Azores if you like mountains and waterfalls. Azores has hot springs though.
Ive been twice both to madeira and azores (i visited 6 islands) maderia is ok but its medicore in comparison to azores, the only thing better about it is maderia (alcohol) which is best enriched wine with porto.
Maderia is less humid, but its more crowded. Azores on the other hand have better hikes, better food and aftermentioned grill stands everywhere. Also i prefer azores nature vs madeira.
When it comes to dining porto was worst food expirience in my life (ive been to 60 countries total), lizboa was subpar at best. Also when i was returning from porot my gf got worst case of stomach flu which I also happen to contract but just when i returned home.
Italy have much better qusine but it depends onthe region, for example bologne is superb while most stuff in medilan or rome is just ok.
Nimes is cheap (for France and USA), and has good connection to Provence and Occitanie
Lisbon and Portugal also is very "exotic" for Americans and you would definitely love it, but it gets old fast
Italy is good as long as you stay away from the obvious tourist traps like Florence and Milan. Bologna is excelent and its the center of good italian food with a beautiful city to top and close to Venice
have a nice day on your wedding day
You can fly into Geneva for really cheap from the US. I saw tickets for $540 from the west coast. Then take a 1 hour bus ride for 7 bucks from Geneva down to Chamonix. You can always find a nice Airbnb in the Chamonix valley or Annecy for a week for around 700/week. There are lots of villages to explore and the train makes it easy to get around