>don't use this shit
If you're using Airbnb you're getting scammed. Shit is a straight ripoff and they're going to charge you 3x more than renting locally or even a hotel. Don't be lazy. Go and look PHYSICALLY for actual places.
>you are contributing to inflation AND gentrification
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K well how do I find places that won't require a deposit? You don't understand how fricking inconvenient it is giving a deposit to some rando in a country where you have 0 legal recourse if they just don't give you the deposit back.
>I need to pay 3x as much or I'll loose my deposit and end up only paying half
>also what is a month-to-month? XD
you are moronic.
>0 legal recourse if they just don't give you the deposit back.
Well I've been in that situation before. I had to politely inform them that if they didn't return the security deposit I would be forced to physically harm them. Once they understood what I was implying, my money was returned to me.
What country? I would just give the TV and fridge away you the locals. Or you could squat there. I always make a double of the key incase the landlord wants to frick with me.
Fortunately most people are nice and realize small short term gain is always less than long term gain.
Also wtf? Hotels are way more expensive in almost every country, idk about the US, travelling is expensive there regardless
Rent cheap locally and that's exactly what you're gonna get, a sloppipy furnished dump that you will loathe two weeks in.
Yeah, you get less with a hotel room. But I don't cook unless I'm van camping, so why do I need a kitchen? Hotels suit me just fine, long as the room has natural lighting.
Just select "include total cost before tax". Then filter out anything pricier than you want to pay. Simple as.
Just arrived in Taipei, it's a modern city with modern prices. $22 for a bunk in a shitty hostel with 12 beds crowded into a one bedroom apt. Gonna hit the streets looking for a good back street hotel tomorrow
liberal whites are gentrification personified
>rent dump
>upset it's a dump
sounds like a (You) problem
Airbnb is scuffed now. It was usable 5+ years ago but the prices now are insane or people are just straight up scamming.
>rent once for 5x price to an idiot
>or rent 5x for normal price to normal people?
The choice is obvious. Scamming is less work and less wear and tear.
a lot depends on the city. I've noticed that Taipei is scam city for airbnbs. like $1000 a month for a total shithole closet, when locals would pay $350-$500
>gentrification
Why is this bad? I only see dirt poor Black folk and their liberal white saviours complaining about it.
>why is this bad
the entire reason you're on vacation is to escape it's effects moron
>assuming every traveller is as destitute as you
This board never ceases to amuse me.
>you want to live in a place with a healthy vibrant culture?
>you don't want to live in an enclosed "luxury apartment" compound replete with security guards and 24/7 video surveillance?
>you don't want to step aside heroin needles and human feces on your way to your make-work DEI job?
>you want good food, real people, fair prices, beauty and sunshine?
>this does not align with US propaganda efforts.
Here in the Philippines you can get a nice condo on airbnb for the same price as a shitty hotel room. It probably depends on where you're at like others are saying.
Can someone make a list of places that are better and worse for AIBnb? In my experience Vietnam is much worse. An anon said Filipines is better.
I've had a great experience renting Airbnbs in Czech, Switzerland and France. We ended up with large, nice places in the center of town with a ton of extra amenities in a quiet area for less than most hotels. You aren't getting a better value for your dollar in Zermatt than an Airbnb.
Italy, Croatia and Hungary were decent. Sometimes the beds sucked, or it was a little noisy, some shit was broke, or people in the building were smoking.
Greece and Slovakia weren't very good. They were loud as shit and had insanely complicated check in procedures.
> use Airbnb to locate accommodation
> use Google and/or insta and/or Facebook to locate the property owner and negotiate cash discounts
> Airbnb owners will split the fee saving with you
> some places have rules around how many days a year you can use Airbnb, so Airbnb nights cost more as they’re artificially scarce
many such cases. Last extended trip was in Iceland and saved around a grand for half an hour messaging Icelandic boomers
I never deal with people directly. I always use a 3rd party so I can get refunds if there’s any human dogshit behavior afoot.
Landlords should be shot
Translation:
>I have crippling anxiety
>BILLIONS must die
I agree with several of your points. Airbnb’s is a largely crap business model that has had a demonstrably shitty impact on local housing markets in many places, as property management companies large and small (and a small number of shady individuals) have taken desirable apartments off the market for locals who might otherwise want to live in them full-time. It’s particularly bad in some European cities with central-city housing shortages, and not great in some cities in the States either (although a few cities, including NYC and San Francisco, have imposed regulations designed to make the worst aspects somewhat harder to get away with, enforcement is imperfect at best).
That said, I don’t think being overpriced compared to “renting locally” or using hotels are among its biggest sins. Short-term rentals from anybody, with or without a platform to abet it, are always going to cost more than a local, long-term lease. So the fact that a nightly or even month-to-month rental might cost a multiple of the average local lease is irrelevant, because locals aren’t renting short-term when they pay 1/3 what an Airbnb visitor has to shell out. They pay less because they stay for a minimum of a year and bring their own furniture and pay their own utilities. If they want something short-term and furnished, that costs more, 100% of the time.
And as far as hotels are concerned, although I now avoid Airbnb like the plague because of a very bad experience made worse by the platform’s negligible customer service, I used it extensively in the past, and still use other online apartment rental sites for most of my trips, and without exception I have been able to get more square footage for a lot less than the closest hotel suite equivalent would have cost.
As for walking around looking for someplace to rent directly from an owner, that may be worth doing if it’s feasible for you. But traveling mostly with my wife and two kids, it ain’t happening.
>>you are contributing to inflation AND gentrification
Who are you quoting? I don't think you know what you're doing also lmao "gentrification"
It entirely depends on the country you're using it in. I find in korea its cheaper and nicer to have an airbnb. But if you go to an airbnb in the UK its overpriced and shit.
They have way more personality than the hotels in Korea and are cheaper regarding size/ament.
Yeah exactly, stayed in one years ago and it had a great view over the river for cheap, heated floors, was connected to the subway. Booked two others for my trip at the end of the year, one is super cozy and the other has an amazing view over busan's beaches. All about $120-150 aud a night and nicer than the hotels
interesting...in Taiwan airbnbs look significantly pricier than hotels. you can get a decent hotel room for $35/night in most cities here, but airbnbs with few exceptions start at $55
More like airpoo'n'pee
I'm not going to clean up after myself, I will book a hotel and let the wagies do it.
Simple as.
>be in Korea
>look up a monthly rental
>its over 1500 dollars
>dont know the local prices but feel this is way overpriced
>tell a total bro in my hostel about my problem
>he tells me to look up goxiwons
>spend a day going door to door looking up goxiwons
>find a nice comfy one bedroom apartment for 600 dollars
AirBNB is a scam
eh it depends, you can still get some decent deals. im at a place in the centre of palma mallorca which cost under £900 for 31 nights. spacious apt with a kitchen, air con, internet. no added bills.
not an amazing price but not a rip off either, palma is generally pretty expensive. problem is when it gets close to summer airbnb prices tend to shoot through the roof and then it does become a rip off.
HOw im gonna look physically at places where I aint there?
Thank you for your contribution to reducing Airbnb demand for me