Exactly how low is the bar to do TEFL in Japan?

Exactly how low is the bar to do TEFL in Japan?
I know a guy who is a legit moron, like autistic to the point of being on disability with a violent juvenile history. He has several evictions for violence.
He is just functional enough to probably pass a for profit TEFL course. He claims he needs a few bucks to take the course and can pay me back when he can and he'll let me crash at his place when I go to Japan next year.
Should I loan my moronic friend a few bucks to take a TEFL course, or would I be pissing money down the toilet? If this doesn't work out he is going to stay on disability

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bait thread? Sounds like little gain for you at a high risk, and like he might lose his disability if he does it? From personal experience, I can tell you mentally ill people of this caliber (semi functional) shouldnt be trusted. You can be friends, but dont trust them and dont enable their erratic ideas

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I can tell you mentally ill people of this caliber (semi functional) shouldnt be trusted
      This. Keep crazy people at arms length. I had a father who was certifiably insane. Do not enable their crazy or self-medicating behaviors. Do not trust them with money or valuables.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > like autistic to the point of being on disability with a violent juvenile history.
    >He is just functional enough to probably pass a for profit TEFL course

    LMAO you're more moronic than him.

    First off no TEFL won't let him in if he has a record specifically violent, second of all "he just needs money for TEFL course?" what fricking course? You do the application process and then take their tests, you have to be fricking moronic to give him cash.

    > If this doesn't work out he is going to stay on disability
    He's on it if people like you keep bailing him out with stupid of his stupid shit lies and probably addiction

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP for shits and giggles how much is he asking for

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      About $3k, but it isn't an online course.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Youre moronic for even considering it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        tell him to take the bare minimum course. they are like 300ish

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I know a guy who is a legit moron, like autistic to the point of being on disability with a violent juvenile history. He has several evictions for violence.

    I'm sure you know yourself, yeah.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've lived in Japan for 10 years, and I'm a hiring manager.

    I often pass on people with TEFL certificates because I know how useless they are. Or at the very least, I look for actual work experience, or something showing reliability and potential for longevity (two characteristics that are in short supply as most people come here to play first and work second.)

    I'm a little worried you may be as stupid as your friend for even entertaining his delusions. But on the off chance you aren't, don't piss your money away.

    >Japanese apartments are so small and ALT salaries are so low that you'd literally be sleeping on the floor of his kitchen on a futon should he even be accepted into the country

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do you thoroughly look at background checks to see how long people were employed?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      IDK what this has to do with OP's psycho friend who wants to teach in Japan for an easy job that lets him frick underage girls also. I wonder if he'd even make it through a class...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've got years of experience, both in class and remote. Is there any way to get past the 280,000 salary cap? I don't mind working in a rural location as long as I can get to a major city like Osaka or Tokyo in an hour or two. I like Japan a lot, but I make significantly more than that now teaching remotely. Where is the best place to look for jobs if you don't speak Japanese? Can I just show up in Japan and start applying, or is it better to apply online first?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wait, you make less than $2k a month as an English teacher in Japan?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That is what I've been seeing on Dave's ESL listings. A lot of people would prefer to work in Japan, but they go to China or S. Korea instead because the money is so much better.
          Some homosexual will probably chime in with a moron comment like
          >bro just learn Japanese and marry a local and after 10 years you can switch to teaching at a University and make twice as much!
          I'm serious though, is it possible to make 3k USD teaching in Japan if you have good experience? I could even consider 2.5k if it came with an apartment for 30 hr teaching weekly and 10 hours prep.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You bring home roughly 2k/mo USD, there are some benefits depending what you can do as an ESL to improve and make3-3.5k, but you should be expecting no more than 40k/yr USD unless you're UNI level or get placed in a really good school. This is basically why English teaching isn't looked as anything special(among everyone recalling how they hated English class) in Japan because you don't make anything more than the average Japanese blue collar worker.

          There are benefits like housing assistance to live cheap, plans and discounts for things like transportation allowance, phone allowance, some other small perks but really people who do teaching don't make that much.

          People laugh at these teachers because acting all high and mighty is about all they are good for, once you realize they make about as much as the guy working at lawsons full time... you just realize how much bullshit they spew

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That’s about the going rate in places like Japan and Korea. Have to go to Vietnam if you want to make 4-5k a month

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            TFW a country with 1/10 the GDP per capita as Japan pays twice as much.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yup. It’s pretty sweet with the cost of living. Japan and Korea are still ok to try out for maybe a year, but not as a career

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That is what I've been seeing on Dave's ESL listings. A lot of people would prefer to work in Japan, but they go to China or S. Korea instead because the money is so much better.
        Some homosexual will probably chime in with a moron comment like
        >bro just learn Japanese and marry a local and after 10 years you can switch to teaching at a University and make twice as much!
        I'm serious though, is it possible to make 3k USD teaching in Japan if you have good experience? I could even consider 2.5k if it came with an apartment for 30 hr teaching weekly and 10 hours prep.

        If you have no connections but are very qualified, you'll probably max out at 320,000. At better positions, you'll hit around 350,000. It's rare to go much higher than that unless you're absolutely crucial to a company.

        You just can't think of it in terms of USD, otherwise there's no comparison. After a few years of earning yen, life will get tough because flights back home are priced for everyone else in the world, not your Japanese pesos.

        There is absolutely no way you'll make 3k USD unless the yen strengthens. Americans living here long term basically lost half their savings over the past few years because of the conversion rate.

        You bring home roughly 2k/mo USD, there are some benefits depending what you can do as an ESL to improve and make3-3.5k, but you should be expecting no more than 40k/yr USD unless you're UNI level or get placed in a really good school. This is basically why English teaching isn't looked as anything special(among everyone recalling how they hated English class) in Japan because you don't make anything more than the average Japanese blue collar worker.

        There are benefits like housing assistance to live cheap, plans and discounts for things like transportation allowance, phone allowance, some other small perks but really people who do teaching don't make that much.

        People laugh at these teachers because acting all high and mighty is about all they are good for, once you realize they make about as much as the guy working at lawsons full time... you just realize how much bullshit they spew

        Transportation allowance of up to 20,000 - 25,000 yen per month is standard in Japan for all industries.

        Hiring manager for what exactly?

        So you're trying to hire for English Teacher roles but you pass on people with just TEFL certs.... the math ain't mathing bud. You really think people are going to get a masters or a CELTA or more qualifications to literally earn peanuts?

        I'd argue even doing a TEFL and going to Japan or Korea isn't worth it at this point.

        [...]
        Korea is fricking awful, same level as Japan for TEFL. The glory days are over.

        No, I'm saying that a TEFL proves nothing other than you're willing to pay extra for the chance to live in Japan.

        A Master's and choosing to teach English in Japan just means you're an idiot. Being more highly qualified is an impediment, because Japanese companies want employees to be clay they can mold. That's why they do mass hirings of recent grads without any real work experience.

        Personality and loyalty to the company are the most important things to hire for.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why I came home and make double this whole thread as a Forklift driver.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No wonder teaching English in Asia, a respectable profession elsewhere, is seen as the domain of sex pests and unskilled losers.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hiring manager for what exactly?

      So you're trying to hire for English Teacher roles but you pass on people with just TEFL certs.... the math ain't mathing bud. You really think people are going to get a masters or a CELTA or more qualifications to literally earn peanuts?

      I'd argue even doing a TEFL and going to Japan or Korea isn't worth it at this point.

      That is what I've been seeing on Dave's ESL listings. A lot of people would prefer to work in Japan, but they go to China or S. Korea instead because the money is so much better.
      Some homosexual will probably chime in with a moron comment like
      >bro just learn Japanese and marry a local and after 10 years you can switch to teaching at a University and make twice as much!
      I'm serious though, is it possible to make 3k USD teaching in Japan if you have good experience? I could even consider 2.5k if it came with an apartment for 30 hr teaching weekly and 10 hours prep.

      Korea is fricking awful, same level as Japan for TEFL. The glory days are over.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You might be as moronic as your friend. He will NEVER get to Japan. The bar is extremely low, but he has a criminal record and most likely no degree.

      >I've lived in Japan for 10 years, and I'm a hiring manager.
      What a long way to say that you're a massive homosexual weeb.

      I've got years of experience, both in class and remote. Is there any way to get past the 280,000 salary cap? I don't mind working in a rural location as long as I can get to a major city like Osaka or Tokyo in an hour or two. I like Japan a lot, but I make significantly more than that now teaching remotely. Where is the best place to look for jobs if you don't speak Japanese? Can I just show up in Japan and start applying, or is it better to apply online first?

      just kys.

      Wait, you make less than $2k a month as an English teacher in Japan?

      with conversion rates you make like $1500 a month.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    LOW in my company alone in Kyushu we had

    >A guy handing out leaflets on Jehovah's Witnesses to the class.
    >Multiple people who had never taught
    >A trust fund kid that took every third day off
    >Several blacks that worked in Kindergartens everyone hated.

    That said I just bought a house at home, I am utterly single and miserable here and basically haven't had sex since I was in Japan and I am genuinely thinking about returning...

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