German here, help me choose my next US trip:
(BEACHES)
>Galveston-Texas
>Miami-Florida
>Myrtle Beach-South Carolina
(Sight Seeing)
>Washington D.C.
>New York-New York
(Random aka "Real America")
>Columbus-Ohio
>Phoenix-Arizona
>Oklahoma City-Oklahoma
>Wichita-Kansas
>Bozeman-Montana
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>Columbus-Ohio
>Phoenix-Arizona
>Oklahoma City-Oklahoma
>Wichita-Kansas
>Bozeman-Montana
Are those incel mass shooting locations or something? why would you go to these literal shitholes?
sick frick
Allowing foreigners on the internet was this country's greatest mistake
I am German I don’t understand your sad anger and rage towards these places. I hope you will soon recover from you personal issues in you life.
>I am German
that's why I asked. we all know about your propensity to depravity
the extermination camps, the cannibals, the human experiments, locking kids on basements, Berghain, etc.
Do you suffer from mental illness? I want to see real America, i always do that when i visit the US or other nations.
I go to a fake US tourist place like the nightmare city Los Angeles, and then visit a normal state like Indiana to see the real America.
You should visit a psychologist before you hurt yourself or other people.
Best of luck.
They’re all a little out of the way though. The easiest places to do this are probably Pennsylvania, Illinois, and Texas since Pennsylvania is more or less a Rust Belt state, especially the further you are from Philadelphia, Chicago is probably the most quintessentially American big city, and Texas is Texas. But every state is normal outside of the big city.
>Berghain
I kek'd. Legitimately, I want to go there only to see if I can run into the piss goblin in the urinals.
Columbus and Bozeman are lovely
If you're going to florida primarily for the beach go to Anna Maria Island instead. Miami is a fricking dump.
I appreciate you trying to visit "real america", but it seems like you just picked the most hillbilly redneck sounding cities. Visit Tennessee.
Dearborn michigan has a lot of muslims so youd feel at home there mohammad
Miami sucks. Bozeman is okay for certain Yellowstone National Park activities. Flagstaff mogs Phoenix hard. Closer to Sedona and some National Parks.
Columbus and OKC....if you want to experience a tornado, OKC sounds great. Otherwise, no fricking way.
Yeah if you want to see "normal America" you could just go to a DC suburb satellite city in Virginia and it won't be any different than OKC or Wichita in any meaningful way.
Thanks for the input, fun fact a Tornado passed through the freeway a day before i went to Dallas on one of my US trips.
Is Yellowstone safe, don’t they have bears roaming around?
Well i will just do one place only for the next trip, it would be too stressful otherwise.
Last time i was there i just picked one place and checked out as much as possible, walking 20 miles a day kek.
if you want to go to one of those smaller cities with nothing going on, try and find a seedy bar (often theyre "private clubs" that will give you a membership basically for free so they can stay open longer) and get drunk with locals. they tell you their life story and opinions and they will be your best friend for the night.
Are these places your flying to?
A lot of euros try to do too many things that are geographically distant. I would advise picking two parts of the country you want to see and doing things in those regions. Don't make more than one cross country flight in the middle of your trip. It takes all day between the flight time, delays, fricking around at the airport, ground transportation and then you might not realize how disruptive the time zone changes can be.
NYC, DC, Boston and around there and then adding a trip out to Florida or Texas or the southwest is feasible but trying to do all those things in the span of a couple weeks is really stretching your time.
You could start in NYC, to DC and then do SC+Florida or instead do Montana/Yellowstone or Arizona. Phoenix has a lot of cool things that aren't too far away not just national parks but state ones as well.
The season you're travelling also matters. Don't do Arizona in the summer or Yellowstone in the winter.
Wichita and Galveston aren't worth seeing at all.
Burger here, lived in New York City for a few years, currently live upstatte, don't travel as much as I'd like to know but I know a bit about the Northeast and I'll put in my two cents.
>How long will you be visiting for?
>What's your itinerary/timeframe?
>Anything in particular you'd like to see/experience?
>Are you into hiking at all?
I would greatly reccomend checking out the Berkshires/Western Massachutsetts. Picturesque New England towns, a decent amount of history, a few neat places to hike, it's literally Norman Rockwell's America, and is relatively close to NYC.
>How long will you be visiting for?
About 2 weeks
>What's your itinerary/timeframe?
Don't know
>Anything in particular you'd like to see/experience?
I want to see some mainstream American tourist stuff and some real America hence the weird places i listed in the OP
>Are you into hiking at all?
Oh yeah of course, it's one of my main hobbies in Germany.
>I would greatly reccomend checking out the Berkshires/Western Massachutsetts. Picturesque New England towns, a decent amount of history, a few neat places to hike, it's literally Norman Rockwell's America, and is relatively close to NYC.
That sounds very wholesome, i honestly am searching for a place like that to settle sometime in the near future.
Germany is now very uncomfortable, very unsafe and the new laws that the government is implementing is making it worse.
Germany isn't what it used to be 2 decades ago, thus i hope i can find a nice US small town to settle.
That's also the main reason i started to travel all across the US, searching for the right place.
Side note: I really don't understand all the hate towards the Mid-West, seems comfy.
>About 2 weeks
That's not enough time to make multiple trips to multiple cities across the country considering long distance travel in the US kills your entire day. I guess the european mind really can't understand how big and spread out it is.
That is enough time though to do NYC, DC and one other region of your choice and maybe some places in between them like Annapolis or Gettysburg... That gives you about 3-4 days in each place which aren't travel days. Don't try to plan to do a lot on travel days, it takes a lot of time to get around, even just getting from town to an airport can take more than an hour and then you have to deal with the US airport experience where its recommended to arrive 2 hours before your flight.
>I really don't understand all the hate towards the Mid-West
The mid-west is like the parts of eastern germany that haven't seen any growth since the wall came down. It's flat with lots of older industrial sites, and a lot of places feel dated, lacking in culture, generally like life there is a shadow of its former glory they had in the past.
Upper Midwest has largest % Germanic heritage in America. But there are few dense urban neighborhoods, because the ppl who emigrated there did so to own a piece of land and have elbow room. downtowns are for business, not leisure, so there is no "scene".
public lands and hiking trails are relatively scarce, though the desolate north woods have national forests and lakeshores worth exploring. not sure how the warm winter will affect the biting insect population.
How about this as a starting template:
> Day 1: Washington D.C. Prioritize the Smithsonian museums and the monuments. Basically anything on the Washington Mall is worth visiting.
> Day 2: drive to Shenandoah National Park, do some hikes, spend the night
> Day 3: drive back to D.C, spend another day doing tourist things. Optional: Not sure if they still do this but the Smithsonian offers day tours to historically important areas in the region, that could be worth checking out.
> Day 4: take the Amtrak up to Philadelphia, spend the day doing Liberty Hall, Liberty Bell, and another item of your choosing (I'd recommend the art museum)
> Day 5-7: take the Amtrak up to New York City. Impossible to list everything there is to do here, but if you want basic tourist things I'd prioritize the Met, Statue of Liberty, and Rockefeller Center (better than Empire State Building for views).
> Day 8-10: take the Amtrak up to Boston, spend a day or two in Back Bay/Beacon Hill/North End, and another day in Cambridge where Harvard and MIT are.
That'd get you through the biggest parts of the northeastern corridor with a few extra days to spare to spend however you like. If you go during the summer, you could finish up along the trip with a stop by the beach (Cape Cod, etc).
>beaches
>Galveston
water's gross there. industrial port. if you want texas go to south Padre
>real america
>okc
>Wichita
but why
if you want real America why not book a lodge at say beavers bend or in the mountains? Bozeman sounds like the bets option there for yellowstone
Galveston is fun. You would likely go through Houston. I would say Houston is better if you know someone, but Galveston is super tourist friendly, and the locals get a kick out of Euros visiting us. In between the two is the space center. That's really cool and worth a day there either driving up or driving down.
Like anon here said the water isn't the best (it can be on certain days) but frankly I would not waste your time in South Padre. Either just do Galveston or don't. If it's all about beaches, for sure Florida/east coast. But if you want some beach and to enjoy the rest of the area, Galvrston is a for sure to see. Driving along the island is fun, the Strand is great. Moody Gardens for aquarium. Pleasure Pier if that's your thing.
I would definitely second that the water in Galveston is fricking nasty and I don't think South Padre is much better. OP I would probably recommend not going to Texas at all, the bigger cities are really not that different than the rest of the US and the small towns are largely deserted small farming communities in the middle of nowhere. If you really want a yeehaw Texas experience you could check out a rodeo in Fort Worth but the problem is that Texas is HUGE and you'd have to drive several hours from there to see anything else worthwhile.
My favorite thing I did in 3 years of living in TX was canoeing on Caddo Lake, by Texas standards it's not too far of a drive from Dallas/Fort Worth. It has miles of huge old cypress trees that are half underwater, pic rel
New York actually sucks for sight seeing. You show up, you see Times Square, you see all the big buildings in Midtown, and all that takes about a day and then it’s just boring. There’s not enough there to see which is actually interesting. All of the interesting stuff to see in America is in New England (history), Mid-Atlantic (history), and West (landscape). Honestly, Philly is worse for things to do than New York but infinitely better for sightseeing, especially if you’re willing to drive out to places like Valley Forge and Gettysburg.
Essentially this; if you have two weeks in America just stick to the oldest parts on one side of the mountains. Save the deep mountains and Midwest for a second trip & the West for a third.
Seconding this. Even leaving aside its current (and very real in spite of what violence apologists will tell you) problems, NYC really isn't anything special. Washington DC has a lot more iconic, unique stuff and the Smithsonian museums are all free and very close to each other.
If you're going to be on the east coast, you should definitely go to one of those "living history" places like Colonial Williamsburg. It isn't terribly far from DC and it's a genuinely fun, interesting thing to do. There are other places like this but it's the only one I've gone to.
Going to echo these anons and say PA and VA are good for a mix of city, rural, and history. In PA you can hit up Philly which, while admittedly a shithole (like virtually every US city) is the closest thing to a historic city you can find, aside from maybe Boston, with plenty of cool museums and historic sites. Within an hour, you have some decent attractions like Valley Forge, Longwood Gardens, and two amusement parks. Going further out, you can hit up Lancaster to see the Amish (something Euros seems to like), go to Gettysburg for a day or two, find decent hikes, or even hit up a beach in Jersey, though this will not be as good as what you can find in the south.
In Virginia, you've got DC. The National Mall is fantastic, as is Arlington National Cemetery. Outside of DC, if you want history you can head south to visit the National Museum of the Marine Corps and Williamsburg for both the colonial town and Busch Gardens, and hit Virginia Beach if you feel the need. Alternatively, for nature and small towns, you can head out West to Shenandoah National Park. There you'll find good hikes, drives, and caves you can tour.
If you really want to see NYC, you could fit it into a PA or VA trip if you don't mind driving or taking the train. You could also just do a NY trip. There is some good nature in upstate NY, but I feel like it isn't as close to the city as it is in PA and VA, and I can't think of too many historic sites, though maybe I'm wrong and someone else more familiar with the NYC area could enlighten you.
Yellowstone is safer than any US city. Just don't be a moron who runs up to a bison for a selfie. I will always say our National Parks are what people should visit for.
>If you really want to see NYC, you could fit it into a PA or VA trip if you don't mind driving or taking the train. You could also just do a NY trip. There is some good nature in upstate NY, but I feel like it isn't as close to the city as it is in PA and VA, and I can't think of too many historic sites, though maybe I'm wrong and someone else more familiar with the NYC area could enlighten you.
Alot of kino towns in Hudson Valley and Finger Lakes region is not bad
If you want to see political and historical stuff, the Philly and Washington D.C. areas will be your best bet. Virginia and Massachusetts have some history as well obviously. But I would highly recommend you spend the bulk of your time in the West. Whether you go to the Southwest or the Northwest, it doesn’t really matter. The sheer scale and beauty of the landscapes will blow you away. You can hit the beaches in California, the parks in Utah, trail rides in Colorado, and stargazing in Arizona, and the casinos in Nevada. If you’re willing to drive really long distances, you’ll find there is just nothing like it in Europe.
Let's say you just did Miami Florida, New York and Bozeman Montana. That would be 5,562 Kilometers one way, or about the same distance from Siberia Russia to Lisbon Portugal. Try sticking to one coast.
Something like New York, Washington DC, Shenandoah National Park, Asheville North Carolina, Destin Florida would make a lot more sense. You'd have plenty of stops along the way you could plan out.
Well, I live here and I'll say
Definitely myrtle beach
Washington DC
And Columbus Ohio, because that is my home town.
Myrtle Beach is VERY black now. It's not like it was 20 years ago.
Oh, gross.
replace columbus with nashville and it's not a bad list
What is up with this board? I have never been to New York and not had a good time
It’s just boring. You get there and you’re kind of in awe at the size and how it looks and the energy for a few hours, and then you see Midtown and Times Square, you get some pizza or whatever and that’s it. There are tons of museums and art galleries but none of them are really unique. New York doesn’t have as much history as other places. It doesn’t have that much of a distinct culture, not anymore anyway. And it’s not the place of tje 90s anymore. There are no cool neighborhood bars, no cool apartment party scenes, no cool art movement scenes, broadway is lame, all that shit is gone. So all in all you get maybe a day of novelty and then you’re bored. Like wow, a fat guy in a Spider-Man costume in Times Square. Woah, a slice of pizza. How much fun can you really have with that? It’s like Paris or London but with a fraction of the culture and history.
Anon you are going to turbo normie destinations like Times Square, NYC mogs in terms of actual things to do besides sightseeing I would say. In terms of globohomosexual cities it definitely does mog London and Paris although the latter two have more history and sightseeing things to do
>Galveston
XDDDDDDDD
You don't go to Miami for the beach itself, you go to party and drink your head off. There's a million other places in the state if you want the actual beach.
If you want real America, go to rural Wisconsin, they have great cheese and beer, they also like to larp as krauts there. Many people of German descent are there. It's a good time.
>Galveston
Meh
>Miami
Miami Beach is overrated and overpriced. Other places around the area aren't terrible
>myrtle Beach
Idk never been
>D.C.
Kino experience for geeks of all kind, the Smithsonian museums are fricking awesome. Harper's Ferry WV and Arlington Virgina are super close by too.
>Columbus Ohio,
Meh, go to Cleveland, major rust belt history and wonderful orchestra. It's also a 1 hour east of the greatest theme park in the US, Cedar Point.
>Phoenix, Arizona
Very hot and depressing. Hiking outside the city is great. Prioritize Going to Flagstaff and see the grand canyon.
>Oklahoma City
Neat town, didn't get to see much besides the OKC bombing memorial
>Wichita
Kind of interchangeable with any town in the Midwest,
>Bozeman
Is barely a city but it's super comfy
If this is your first time in the US, just stick to starting in D.C and then explore the Mid Atlantic and New England. It's all pretty close so you could feasibly do it
Everyone telling you to stick to the East Ciast is moronic. Go west young man. See the desert. There's nothing like it in Germany.
Where is this? Looks comfy
Fort San Juan, UT. It's an old 1840s-50s mormon settlement. I went there on a Sunday, got lunch at the Navajo trading post, saw the locals dressed up in their somewhat anachronistic Sunday Bests, and felt like a drifter in the Old West
Miami has good snorkeling / scuba diving in Biscayne National Park.
New York is a shithole these days.
Everything except Bozeman in your random list is kind of shit. Try West Virginia (New River Gorge National Park, Monongahela National Forest) or Maine (Acadia National Park) or Minnesota (Superior National Forest, Boundary Waters Wilderness) or the Pacific Northwest for real American scenery.
Or if you want to see desert, Kaibab National Forest (Arizona), Zion National Park (Utah), Chaco Canyon (New Mexico), and the Mountains of the Moon (Idaho), are all good choices.
do less of the beaches and "real america" and
>find a national park with your preferred landscape
>find blm land around there
>rent an offroad-capable car and camping equipment
>drive around on old logging roads or offroad and camp in the middle of nowhere
>explore nature without a bunch of other idiots clogging everything up
beaches are full of fat people who dont cover up enough and random shithole cities get boring quick.
Still here OP?
DC is a good choice.
>Good food scene
>Lots of touristy and local places to explore (the Smithsonian museums alone can easily gobble up a couple days, and theyre free)
>Decent nightlife if you're into that
>Good central location for some day/overnight trips (Arlington, Baltimore, Harper's Ferry, etc.)
PROTIP- If you come during the late spring/summer, 100% take a day trip to Baltimore and go to Camden Yards for a baseball game
I honestly think as a German you would enjoy a Real America version in Wisconsin. It is where many of the German settlers came so while there are dairy farms all over it will be more geared to you.
St Pete Beach, FL or Siesta Key, FL mogs Miami in so many ways.
If it was me and I had two weeks I would do the following:
Fly into DC or NY and do your little 3 days of sightseeing. Fly to Clearwater/Tampa and spend five days on St Pete Beach/Siesta Key. Fly to Milwaukee and do stuff in Wisconsin and fly home from Chicago and visit there for 1-2 days. It's worth seeing and has direct flights to multiple German cities.