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GIVE ME TIPS FOR VENICE , FLORENCE & ROME
In Florence Read the book The Monster of Florence for some immersion.
Go in winter/fall during the non-tourist season.
There is glamping in the south of the city that can be cheap nightly during off season.
Some wineries offer lodging and you get perks.
There are a lot of Piazzi which do not require admission but in themselves you can see museum quality work, beautiful architecture and landscaping.
Centro Commerciale San Donato is fun shopping experience.
Set up your excursions around a theme such as the Pitti and Pazzi versus Medici so you can limit yourself. People get ill from trying to see all the artwork in Florence.
Shit ton of theatres with performing arts opera, classical music, artsy garbage, etc.
See Uffizi gallery. Museo di Storia Naturale di Firenze is world class museum in a city where art is the main attraction so it may not be as busy as art museums.
Visit Ponte Vecchio. Visit Palazzo Medici Riccardi for some of the best Baroque artwork.
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Having been to all 3 I must say that Florence was my favourite.
See all the artwork. Rome and Florence have some of the most beautiful pieces of art in the world. David is unironically the most beautiful piece of art I've laid my eyes on. It's perfect.
Check out Santa Croce to see some very famous graves and some Donatello sculptures. Atlas Obscura's website gave me a lot of cool hidden things to do in those cities.
duno what you like, sometimes hanging in a quiet peripheral neighborhood can be comfy (i assume some can be kind of run sketchy)
Fiesole outside florence not sure there is much to do but was a cool place to hangout, the hills surrounding florence were very cool
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Rome is one of the few places a guided tour is worth it. The history lessons at the Vatican/Colosseum were interested and quite cheap. Learned a lot that I wouldn't have without the ear piece and being part of a group.
Also with Rome never go out to eat where someone is enticing you to come into their place. You will get shitty food and a large bill. Rome is one of those cities where the best food is generally 2-3 blocks off the main drags and use your phone to find a place with 1k plus reviews and 4.5 stars.
>Also with Rome never go out to eat where someone is enticing you to come into their place. You will get shitty food and a large bill. Rome is one of those cities where the best food is generally 2-3 blocks off the main drags and use your phone to find a place with 1k plus reviews and 4.5 stars.
This is a good tip. You can find fantastic food just a few yards away from major tourist sites, so convenience isn't even a reason to stop in at a restaurant right filled with tourists. I think the only touristy restaurant I ate at was the one on top of Hadrian's Tomb because the views of the city at night were more than worth it.
just don't use yelp, nobody in Italy uses yelp.
>Also with Rome never go out to eat where someone is enticing you to come into their place. You will get shitty food and a large bill
this is true for all of europe
Good tips based
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Any guided tour suggestions? Only going to be spending a couple days in Rome.
Benice is gorgeous but not the grand canal area, whixh gave me fricking anxiety from all the roasties trying to do selfies on every square foot on thr bug brudge and all the humans and dirt
Go to Arsenal area and the parks in the east, along the water
What time of year did you go?
I am also going to these three places. I don’t give a shit about the fricking fountain or the keyhole bullshit, I wanna know obscure and less-frequented cool shit, bonus points if historical
If you like sculptures check out Bargello museum in Florence
Don't eat gelato that is high or saturated color, it is not real gelato.
Order the dish recommended to you, don't ask for pasta shape because that's not how it fricking works. (Literally hear people ask for spaghetti and sauce.)
Red whine with red meat, white whine with white meat aka seafood
Wear sturdy shoes, the cobblestone can be slippery or even, your ankles can sprain. Trying to be fashionable on stone hills and old roads is stupid.
Don't buy anything, it's all tourist junk sold by migrants working for mafia and cheap shit from China. If you find an artisan you can buy from them. And all I can recommend are Venetian masks and clothing, or if you come to Naples get the red pepper (cornicello)
If you go to get coffee it costs extra to sit down, if you order at the bar you drink it standing up, and it should cost around €1. Don't be scammed.
Stay outside Venice proper and get in super early (like 6AM) because it takes some time to get there and it's totally bombed out with tourists during the day. You'll be there to see bombed out Venice but it won't bother you so much because half the day it was kinda quiet. Rug up, book the boat trip in advance so you're not left quing for hours.
Florence is actually relatively large, with lots of sights in the old city. Rome is even larger but the Colosseum area is full of scammers
>but the Colosseum area is full of scammers
there is MORE to Rome than the Colosseum and the fricking fountain!!!!
yes the famous sites, get your photo, see the musuem if you want, but they are not the comfy places to hangout
it just makes me upset, there’s so much wacky shit to do there in every direction you just trip over crazy shit everywhere and all these morons give a frick about if this fountain and arena
Venice is fricking gay. Go drive around Abruzzo or Umbria instead
venice split up into many parts, there is the main cluster of islands, then you read about the other islands murano (near the main island, famous glass industry), burano (furhter from main island,colourful photos, famous lace industry) and lido (the beach).
torcello if you look at google street view, its just like one walkway not too fancy, there are many grass lots undeveloped, there is an old church torcella cathedral with 700s mosaics if you need to convince someone to go.
there are random little islands with really posh hotels on them
Poveglia is an abandoned island, used to be a sanitarium/plague quarantine. unclear if its easy to get ot the island if its banned unless given authorization or you just pay a local to take you without telling anyone. or just pass by looking at it.
mestre is the main land area, i dont know whats here seems more industrial/commercial park to me
Spritz wienertail is super popular now, but said to originate from venice and padua in 1920s, italian bitters added to the austrian spritzer. Aperol is the most popular version worldwide, from padua. Select was the name of bitters from venice. Im sure someone has tried to make a spritz with every option of italian bitters tho, a category of drink you could delve into.
Harry's Bar, not sure if a tourist trap as they claim to be hemingway's old favourite, but they also claim to invented to bellini wienertail. in italy you pay a premium for location, but having a drink looking out on the grand canal may be worth a few euros. maybe its too expensive to not be so crowded
with alcohol on my mind, they defiently know what long island iced tea is if you are trying to get most bang for your buck. another high alcohol wienertail they have in italy is quattro bianchi - 4 whites, recipies vary but its 4ish white liquors
For Rome, I'll suggest you don't miss out on the following:
Chiesa di Sant Ignazzio di Loyola
>literally a street east from the pantheon
>the draw is the roof, completely flat but painted to blend with the architecture so you have a "3D" painting reaching out to you and expanding away from you
>the dome is also an optical illusion that appears 3d, the whole thing is painted on a flat surface, kino church art
Vatican offers tours of the grottoes and vatican catacombs including the resting place of St Peter under the basilica. You can essentially see the literal rock on which the church was built.
The israeli Quarter is a good stop for dinner after the Foro Romano tour, the main seller there is Carcioffa a la Giudia (Artichoke a la Judea), you'll know a good spot if you can see that the place has a dude whose job it is to solely peel artichokes in house.
Trastevere is the spot to go to at night to hang out, eat, drink, party.
If you've got the money for an expensive meal (approx 100-130 euros per person) with an amazing view, Cielo Terrace on a hotel just above the Spanish Steps is amazing. NODO, Argot for higher end wienertails, Bar San Calisto for a more locals divey experience.
When in Venice, get squid ink pasta if you can, shit is delicious and a staple there since they can essentially just grab them by their bare hands during low tide when the cuttlefish comes by in season. IIRC Duck is also massive in Venice and you shouldn't avoid a plate of it.
Forgot to toss in the Della Palma Gelatteria north of the Pantheon, famous for their high number of flavors. Additionally, there's Tazza D'Oro for a good coffee shop right at the pantheon. Get as much espresso, latte and machiatto while you're there.
>Trastevere is the spot to go to at night to hang out, eat, drink, party.
recommend places in trastavere please
What's the best part of Rome to stay in if you're a solo traveller?
I want to stay in a place with nightlife and somewhere I can meet fellow travellers in their 20s and 30s. Are Testaccio and Trastevere too far from most activity? Are Piazza Navona and Campo dè Fiori full of older tourists? Are any hotels particularly popular with young travellers?
(Money is no object)
I'd recommend around Piazza Barberini. It's close to all the main sites, very lively and you're next to Via Vittorio Veneto which attracts the rich and instagirls.
Could I take a cab to places outside Rome like Tivoli, Garden of Ninfa, Bracciano? I don’t want to sit on trains.
For 100euro instead of 20euro train
Public transport outside city centre Rome is fine
that’s fine. where do one get these cabs from?
go to the ryder cup