So I want to go on a trip to some of the greek islands later this summer once I get all my shit together
Are there any nice, smaller and less frequented by tourists islands? Definitely not Rhodes, Crete or the mainland. I might spend a day or two in some of those but that's it. Has anyone been to Chios?
I hear the greek economy is in tatters, so 2.5-3k euros should hold nicely for a month or so right?
Also how's the weather during september and the winter months? I'm hoping to finish everything until july-august but just in case. I've got an 850$ flying coupon with no returns and it's valid only till end of year, so it's either a first class ticket to greece or something in the far east later this year.
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>so 2.5-3k euros should hold nicely for a month
in second thought this seems a bit excessive
>Definitely not Rhodes, Crete or the mainland
Crete is the best Greek island you dumb frick.
Start at Kissamos then head east slowly.
>Crete is the best Greek island
what's so great about it
it's one of the biggest tourist traps in the entire place
>giant roaches
the trick is to kick them really fricking hard and not stepping on them otherwise you'll never get the smell out
the roaches with the wings that can fly are the ones you should be careful around, donno if they have them over there
wonder what will happen if a winged one will encounter one without wings
>everywhere there is jam packed with americans
even the smaller islands like chios?
i want to explore the scenery and historical fortresses or whatever, maybe sleep outdoors like vagrant holiday
idk if i can handle that though so a few cheap hotels here and there
> tourist traps
That's entirely your own fault you dumb fricking normie frogposter who can't travel for shit.
I did Sirikari gorge and didn't see a single person the whole way on a Saturday afternoon. The old guy who lives alone at the end of the track gave me some raki and bread, it's actually a bit weird because the trail literally goes right up to his door and I was trying to find a way around his house while he was laughing the whole time watching me try go anywhere but where the track is.
Also a pack of his goats were following me for an hour bleating.
Afterwards went to the empty bar up the mountain and smashed some beers.
I did Samaria gorge a week later and it was packed with thousands of the most npc people you could imagine, I guess you were one of them.
Choose your own adventure.
Pic rel, bar up the top of the hill
I'm headed to Crete today. This anon gets it: choose your own adventure. Most people, even here, type into google search "is going to Crete worth it?". Frick sakes. What do you do? Are you an NPC? Do you have passions? What are you about?
Me? I'm buying a snorkel kit, spring wetsuit, and a pawnshop bicycle and am going to blast down the wrigley most unholy roads I can find. Hop on a ferry and repeat. When I get bored of that who the frick knows but it won't be sitting in a backpackers hitting on british slags, drinking at the normie pub, and posting on IG pictures of old rocks.
>it's one of the biggest tourist traps in the entire place
Did you come here just to say stupid shit and argue?
You speak as though you're an expert on Greece then say the most moronic shit and tell everyone they're wrong.
Clearly you already know better than anyone who's actually been there so why the frick are you asking?
>so why the frick are you asking?
Greece is a favorite destination in here and everyone either go to Rhodes or Crete, so I already know for sure it's infested with them. And I bet there are a lot of turks as well.
Anyway who the frick is arguing? You sound like someone that should attend an anger management session or at least take the fricking tampons out of your ears
I really want to see Chios
Yeah I have hesrd from a lot of people that crete is tourist infested. I wouldnt bother going there personally
>Did you come here just to say stupid shit
Where exactly do you think you are?
Careful bro! Everywhere down there has giant roaches. Its gross. And no everywhere there is jam packed with americans now.
Visit the mainland, especially the North. Pindus mountains are amazing, so is Macedonia. Visiting Mount Athos is also very worth it, but you need a special "visa" for it.
Central peloponnes is also nice (pic related)
>Mount Athos is also very worth it, but you need a special "visa" for it.
I'm told that's never actually enforced.
It's to keep the pilgrim count down and it's only supposed to be like 140/day but in reality there are thousands because Greek police are lol
This is the best answer but please dont let word get out. Or else americans will frick the mailand up like theyve fricked up the islands.
I think of going to the north around June, is this still a good time to go for this region? These are my plans for now.
>start and end in Thessaloniki
>Pella and Vergina, see some Macedonian ruins/tombs
>hike on Mt. Olympos from Litochoro
>see the monasteries in Meteora and spot instathots
>hike in Pindos NP and Tzoumerka NP for a day each, visit some more monasteries
>chill in Parga
Is this doable in 7-8 days? Any other tips are appreciated, as im going with the little info I find online.
September is the best month. Drier in the east med. june is best for west med.
Thanks for the replies, frens.
I will probably start hiking from the halfway point on Olympos, as I will hire a car for the whole trip so no taxi scams for me. Also I'll be going with a friend who's not in a great shape to say the least, so I'll be happy to just walk for a few hours without hearing her wheeze like a locomotive.
I wasn't really planning to spend much time in Thessaloniki, maybe a day at max. 7-8days will be my limit for this trip, but I wish I could go for a longer period. Northern Greece looks much more appealing to me than the meme beaches in the south.
The restaurant/taverna is surprisingly good for something so remote halfway up a mountain, you can park you car there overnight and no one will ever touch it.
If you start from halfway it's most definitely not a hard walk, maybe 3 hours? Your friend will be fine hey.
>you can park you car there
*your
I did a sailing trip in the saronic sea, it was absolutely worth it 10/10.
If you truly want to see island that are less frequented, i would strongly recommend to go sailing, most tourists dont want the hustle and just go to well connected islands.
>i would strongly recommend to go sailing
Not OP (that homosexual) but you need two people with sailing quals to charter a yacht in Greece. The second doesn't necessarily need formal skipper qualifications but does need experience.
And if the harbour master or charter company decide you don't have this, they're allowed to cancel your charter and keep your money.
Can you go solo sailing on your own yacht? Or do they kick you out of their waters?
>Can you go solo sailing on your own yacht?
Absolutely, you can do whatever you want on your own yacht.
>Or do they kick you out of their waters?
If you don't have a "certificate of competence" from a sailing school then you could have problems at a marina or something but I'm told it's rarely checked or enforced and mostly they don't care.
You're supposed to have this and it might well be policed in rivers in Europe, basically to prevent Evergreen scenarios.
Nobody buys a yacht without having learnt to sail though, sailing school is a lot cheaper and less hassle than buying a yacht.
>Athens is a complete shithole that you visit for a few days to see the sights and also the museum
There *are* nice parts of Athens but yeah.
It's mandatory for the Acropolis area and as a pilgrimage to the birthplace of democracy etc and the national museum and acropolis museums are fantastic but after you've done everything on the combination-ticket, there's very little reason to stay there another day.
Like you, I arrived after a long flight and took a bus to the city centre, then walked through that slum area to my hotel with my pack and wondered where the frick I had come to.
Graffiti everywhere, brothels lining the street right next to my hotel with sketchy guys going from door to door looking for frickable 20e Russians, junkies and homeless and piles of garbage...
The tourist parts of Athens were really nice though and I was there immediately post-Covid when the crowds were very light. Off-season is definitely the best time, right now would be about as ok as it gets.
Thessaloniki is lovely but there isn't a whole lot to do there.
>those girls
Very fine, there's like three distinct fetishes in that pic.
Greek girls are such tiny cuties, the one I picked up in Athens I could do a standing 69 with or pick up and eat her out like she was a burger so long as the ceiling was high enough.
Greek kitchens have such low counter tops it causes back pain.
I refuse to make any business with greeks or polish people anymore. They absolutely deserve all the bullshit in the world. If covid 19 spreading meant dont cough next 10 minutes in the train, these people would do it 500 times in 2 minutes. Because theyre morons. They cant do math or run your bank issues or anything that isnt fricking and sitting.
Heres your greek trip. Where are you from + nice accent 500 times and someone begs you an euro. id type the rest but im getting really angry at some moronic white girl coughing in the dorms super loud. She hasnt talked anything so i dont care if she dies from covid.
are you that greek anon from /misc/ who's been living in the university dorms for free for 13 years straight?
anyway here's what you do about that white girl
>knock on her door and slip a paper under saying "can you please turn the music down? thank you" before leaving quickly
>wait ten minutes then slip another one saying "PLEASE! some of us are trying to sleep here!"
>wait another ten minutes then sleep another one "I ASK YOU TO TURN IT DOWN AND YOU TURN IT UP??"
>go back to room and scream hard enough so she can hear "NOW DANCE!" and turn on music full volume
don't forget to get earplugs
Exactly why I left the last hostel I stayed at. Some fricker started coughing at 5 AM and didn't stop. For hours. Multiple times every minute. Felt like giving him the old pillow treatment. Hostels really are for poorgays who have no choice but to put up with all the coughing and snoring and B.O. and clutter and rustling around.
A lot of hostels have private rooms that are cheaper than an airbnb and you still get to meet people in the common room.
what's the best itinerary for island hopping? Preferably by boat
Choose an island group and go between
The reason I was shilling Crete above was that it's big enough so you don't have to bother with ferries and moving all the time, most Greek islands feel tiny real quick, you can spend weeks on Crete and still see a lot of different things. Also Heraklion is a big enough city to feel civilised with actual facilities rather than the small town vibes of every island.
Thessaloniki is underrated, did a month there, the people are cool as frick, Athens can't hold a candle to it, in fact Athens is a complete shithole that you visit for a few days to see the sights and also the museum which is admittedly cool, I saw guys openly smoking meth on the street and getting into a fight at 9am outside my hotel the first day I arrived after 20 hours on a plane, wasn't sure whether to crack up laughing or be scared
>hike on Mt. Olympos from Litochoro
Litochoro is an absolute gem of a place, guessing you'll do Refuge A? It's a really good experience and would highly recommend. The taxis to the halfway restaurant are hilariously overpriced because they know they can but basically everyone does it anyway, suggest trying to find some other people to share with if by yourself, it's not hard in town, many people are there for the mountain.
I'm one of those dumb fricks that tried to walk the entire way from Litochoro town itself and it was beautiful but incredibly brutal, looking at my GPS logs did a few km in elevation change and 18km overland in total, just catch the taxi halfway honestly haha.
Not sure about "Macedonian tombs" but they have amazing hikes also, it's got some amazing nature stuff that's actually untouched unlike most of Europe, spent two months there and hit a lot of the remote places, the immigration guy was harassing me when leaving because "tourists don't spend that long here are you a drug smuggler or something?" then proceeded to go through my bags, I couldn't stop laughing, no dude I'm just a frickin weirdo.
for a month? highly depends, the islands are more expensive than the mainland cities on pretty much everything.
>how's the weather during september and the winter months
September is just summer, the cold and rain starts to set in during late October, but even then its more like 20-25 degrees with an increase in humidity
t. greek
can you get over-the-counter antibiotics in Greece? got a stomach infection but already booked the trip. don't mind visiting albania or some other shady place nearby real quick if you can get it over there
>over-the-counter antibiotics in Greece?
You mean like diarhea or something more serious?
You can get diosmectite and simeticone OTC in Greece and that's good enough for all the usual things.
>something more serious?
helicobacter pylori infection
need like two or three different types of antibiotics taken together
>helicobacter pylori infection
>need like two or three different types of antibiotics taken together
I wouldn't count on getting that kind of heavy stuff OTC, you'd probably need to see a doctor. That probably wouldn't be expensive but it would be easier to go now and bring stuff with you.
I went into a pharmacy in Tirana today and asked and they said you'd need to see a doctor there, they don't do antibiotics OTC.
Shame, Greece has delta8 in the CBD shops and I wouldn't have minded a couple of packs of caramels but not enough to travel all day there and back to get them.
did you try to bribe them?
>did you try to bribe them?
I did not and I doubt most pharmacies would be interested, they'd just tell you to get a prescription from a doctor you idiot.
If you want to try, knock yourself out.
>I did not
come on anon where's the effort?
please try again tomorrow. this is very important to me. you don't have to actually pay them just check if there's a change in their attitude once you show them the money. they're albanians after all.
Sifnos looks pretty cool, never been there so i don't know how bad it is tourist wise.
What is the arma island like?