Has Japan fallen? I've been here a week and am simply regretting every moment of it. There is western music playing in the Lawsons I visit for lunch, there is english on road signs, people consistently speak english to me without realizing I speak Japanese(simply because I am white). I see more McDonalds here than I thought possible I literally thought it was just a anime meme put in. When and why did Japan become so latched onto fucking America of all things? America sucks it has nothing of value and overrun by retards.
What annoys me the most is that there are practically 0 doujinshi shops in Akihabara now, you have like 2 or 3 good ones that are willing to sell the good stuff. Comiket was a relief but running into the amount of foreigners there was embarrassing. I fly back to Canada in a few days and am at a loss, this was to be a real fun trip but instead I am left with dissatisfaction. When did it all go so wrong?
>When and why did Japan become so latched onto fucking America of all things?
1945
fpbp. You could also extend this to 1854, the end of the isolation period, or 1868 when Japan started being massively influenced by the west which never really stopped
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Nah I don't think your meme reply is worthy for a You
Looking back at things Japan was a monster look at the era of the rise of Nintendo it was basically conquering the world on it's whim in tech and influence. You can look at old photos and never see english, no foreigners, just pure proud Japan. Like even the fucking buses now have english on them over Japanese / Kanji. I spent most of the lockdowns studying so now that things finally returned to normal I could visit in preparation to move here but now I'm not so sure. You can see women be a bit plump , which would never happen prior, americans all walking around like they own the place(I kept running into some guy chugging beers and taking pictures at comiket), and loud chinese or koreans. No one respects this country anymore and it pisses me off. Maybe Sapporo is better? I just wish Japan would stop acting like a slave to bend over for american and western culture. The last samurai truly weeps
Are you fucking retarded? You do realize English is the international language right? If you don't want to see any English, don't go to a first world country idiot.
>Japan was on top of the world cause they had Nintendo
This is the most cringe fucking thing I've ever seen on this entire board. It was you obsessed weeb gays that westernized Japan anyway with your booming tourism
in japan. You reap what you sow.
What the fuck are you on about, 1945 anon was correct. Before the war Japan was isolationist and xenophobic, after the war, they're still xenophobic to a degree, but the post war economic miracle was predicated on close allyship and trade with the US, with that comes American coultural export (like a good chunk of the world, even in socialist eastern Europe where I'm from blue jeans were secretly cool). Not to mention they're a major tourist/international business destination. This image of Japan as this hermit kingdom where people hold wildly different values, dress in kimonos and spit on all things western is peak orientalism.
Also, the Nintendo example is a bit cringe, you should research the places you want to move to more thoroughly next time before blowing cash on a plane ticket
>You can see women be a bit plump
you are literally the problem you are complaining about
JAPAN HAS FALLEN
IT'S FUCKING OGRE
I COMMIT HARAKIRI NOW TO PRESERVE HONOR OF GRORIOUS ANCESTORS
This was a mistake no one on this board is going to take me seriously. Fuck it.
Japan was one of if not the only bastion of hope for white males who truly respected culture, a respectable way of life, and wanted to raise a family without fear of divorce or having to guess who is used goods. The world has failed so hard outside what Japan's way of life use to promise for. It's really depressing to think about and realize when you look at the actual shit that the west has become. I wish I was like you all, where arrogance gave pleasure but I can not ignore what I am seeing in Japan. You act like this is okay which is part of the problem. I digress. Maybe I need some time to relax in Hakone without being surrounded by tourists...I just want real Japan with proper values, people who understand you respect their language, culture, art, and values to accept you. Instead I see Burger Kings, McDonalds, and hear rap in places.
Now that's a desperate mix of incel and weeaboo post if I've ever saw one.
>only bastion of hope for white males who truly respected culture, a respectable way of life,
Yes, white men are known for their ability to respect culture and live a respectable way of life.
>wanted to raise a family without fear of divorce or having to guess who is used goods
The culture you are having a hard on literally have a word for cuckold, that's top 3 in porn category.
>I just wish Japan would stop acting like a slave to bend over for american and western culture.
First thing they should do is ban white gays like you from entering to preserve their honorable culture.
>MOST NATIVE AMERICANS CAME FROM JAPAN DURING THE ICE AGE.
And everyone came from Africa so we are all morons?
>And everyone came from Africa so we are all morons?
Das rite bro. WE WUZ.
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Leave Tokyo you fucking incel
>without fear of divorce or having to guess who is used goods
LOL good one
>without fear of divorce or having to guess who is used goods
lol you have no idea what japanese women are like
Sure you won't get divorced but it'll be an open relationship in all but name
>lol you have no idea what japanese women are like
>Sure you won't get divorced but it'll be an open relationship in all but name
You're telling me that if a Japanese or Korean woman who scored a man like me, who's white, 6'3", built and attractive, they are STILL going to cheat?
this sounds like reverse Paris Syndrome
You should realize that with the onset of the Internet, there is little escape from American globohomo
> delusional weeb dreams
shattered
>NOOOO WHAT DO YOU MEAN JAPAN IS NOT JUST LIKE MY ANIMES
oh man I missed these threads
Never mind my previous comment, this thread is clearly b8
>Go outside Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto
>Problem solved
Is that simple, chud.
Ok weeb
Just got back from living in Japan. It's on the verge of collapse. All of my Japanese friend's businesses were failing because of Yen devaluation. prices haven't really risen yet because Japanese budgets are so tight, that any price rise will cause a panic. So retailers are cutting quality and eating the cost.
Japanese society is extremely fragile right now. Foreigners will be the societal scapegoat. This is why you see JP immigration suddenly deporting obnoxious nobody streamers back to America.
The delicate illusion that the Japanese have carefully developed for decades is falling apart. This time they'll have no military to project their frustration through.
It's not the West's fault. We're just selling them what they want.
The Japanese are incredibly prideful and naïve. They have no interest or understanding of what's happening outside of their small island.
It's weird how the American incel/weeaboo wants to defend or shield utopia Japan from the mean outside world. They are very mean to each other, and will carry a grudge against their neighbor for decades until they have the perfect opportunity to fuck them over with a smile.
If I were a Japanese, I'd make some Yakuza friends and get ahold of a handgun, because that's where things are going. The Yakuza I've met also tend to be generally kinder and more open people.
this gay just makes statements backed up by nothing.
>Foreigners will be the societal scapegoat. This is why you see JP immigration suddenly deporting obnoxious nobody streamers back to America.
>noooo why am I not the only foreigner in this garden of Edenu
owari da...
>チッド
NGMI
that's the consequence of being ruled by the Amerimutts.
the generation who gave you Nintendo and Sony are all old fucks now who refuse to resign from their jobs, get paid cushy salaries with full benefits and pension while they lord over young people like they're a slave class expecting them to serve their whims yet yielding no results or discussion on how to innovate.
Also Akihabara is a tourist trap shithole, the real Japan is in the smaller cities and countryside. they don't want you there.
>America sucks
Stopped reading. Seethe more self hating why boi.
The problem is that you're in the major cities and tourist areas.
I felt the same way, most of the really busy parts of Tokyo and Osaka just felt soulless, seeing all the American brands and restaurants made me depressed. Even though I'm a bit of a weeb and I like anime, even Akiba gets overwhelming, you feel like everyone is trying to sell you something
If you go to a residential part of a city or a rural area, that's where I enjoyed myself the most.
Even if there's nothing to do, it just feels comfy walking around, visiting parks etc
Yeah this is the truth.
Go to anywhere that isn't "top ten tourist spots in Japan!" and you'll see a much less foreign/bastardized/nogged Japan.
Downside is that no-one speaks English and there's a less young people.
>Canadian anon here, Japan has truly fallen!
I'm not Chinese you stupid amerimutt I'm actually mostly Native American and my parents are from Mexico, which if you know ANYTHING ABOUT FUCKING HISTORY YOU WOULD KNOW THAT ACTUALLY MOST NATIVE AMERICANS CAME FROM JAPAN DURING THE ICE AGE. So yes I am actually ancient Japanese you troglodyte, so I know what I am talking about here. This board is fucking useless for anyone actually wanting to better themselves and make a better tomorrow.
No one here gets it, no one cares about Japan, it's sad they really should have an entrance exam and require an N5 to visit. I'm so fucking done with this shit.
>Mexico
Stopped reading.
The bait was excellent up until this point. You overplayed your hand. Overall, well done.
agreed, 7/10 bait
A simple Google search shows a landslide of evidence that native Americans did not come from Japan. Sorry weeb.
Stop making us look bad pendejo
>Chinese you stupid amerimutt I'm actually mostly Native American and my parents are from Mexico,
What is the difference then?
unlike the other people who say you got good bait going, you were unfunny and unoriginal from the very beginning.
0/10. try trolling reddit next time
An English white foreigner, complaining that there are white foreigner everywhere he goes and it's ruined his trip, and whined that said country should have less foreigners, as he looks at those foreigner with disdain.
Self-introspective, where are you?
go back a few hundred years and japan looked like this, shit changes, get used to it
weeb btfo
i would like to travel and see pure bloods, but the world is filled with mutts and imposters now, i dont want to travel, i want to escape the simulation because its now filled with npcs
you cant even go to latin america and find pic related unless you look under rocks, just goblinas, the world been agent smithed, welcome to the dark age
>i want to travel and be mutt but i also dont want to see mutts
Ok retard
American visiting Japan next week, I promise to shit it up and be even more obnoxious than I was originally planning
and no shit I'm going to Hakone so I'll even shit up your precious oasis away from those awful tourists OP
This guy gets it. Culture, urban landscapes, fashion, entertainment, food- how people live- changes constantly. OP's is a hilariously paternalistic take- I trust Japanese youth to preserve the parts of the culture they prefer and otherwise dispense with or change the rest. This guy is is trying to preserve something in amber as his plaything that doesn't want to be preserved.
That's how it always goes down in the long run. Some of their cultural preferences may, shockingly, turn out to be globally influenced. Cultural preferences have always been globally influenced and mass media goes both directions. And sometimes we end up with a healthy competition that yields synthesis (if markets are allowed to work properly).
As I'm sure OP the fucking weeb knows, video games started in the west, growing out of US interactive tech research going on at universities here. Later, Taito and Namco got their starts distributing American games, before starting to develop their own. I'm sure parents in both the US and Japan objected to this new and addicting form of entertainment invading their kids lives, and like OP, wagged their fingers.
OP it's very easy to Google divorce statistics. US is 45% and Japan is 35%. The anti-west take is really stupid and you clearly have an axe to grind. I'd assume a child of a rough divorce.
Not the fellas you were talking to, but I'm heading to Japan this week myself. Gonna be keeping to Tokyo but I'll be doing some excursions to the countryside, anything you recommend checking out in Hakone? I know it's renowned for it's onsens but it's always good to get some recs.
i couldn't imagine going to Japan and not even visiting Ainu in Hokkaido.
Bait
No way you're this fucking retarded
of course its bait; another pol-fag just trying to stir up discourse because his material cant cut it on the actual pol board
I feel like this thread is one giant bait. There's no way, even on sighsee, that OP could be this retarded. On the off-chance that OP IS actually this retarded, then no worries, I'll be sure to shit up Hakone with my western whiteness next month when I'm in the area.
go to the far north, or the far south, retard.
https://discord.gg/g2g6RpKVE3
here is my channel to talk about travel
Alright what do you use to learn the language? So far I've used Pimsleur for practicing speech, Renshuu for learning hiragana/katakana, Duolingo for sentence structure/grammar, and Kanji Study for reading.
Not so much into anime but I might start watching it if it actually helps, I'm more into older Japanese sighsee kinos but I'm sure the language is too dated.
Actual chads just use google translate and Jisho.org
I use kanji damage for kanji, I think duolingo is garbage and you should just use other resources like text books. For kana anything will do, you should just learn it all super quick.
As for anime, I'd say watch at least an episode or two every day, but other stuff is good too.
Get the fuck out of Tokyo you fucking weeaboo
Why do mods let bait get to front page
Tokyo isn’t the same, but there are still plenty of options. It’s a cliche but you need to get off the beaten trail. Look for tier 3 cities or small islands with decent populations would be my advice, unless a massive metropolis is part of your Japan dream.
You have never been to Japan. You have never even left your basment. Stop LARPING.
A dying society in massive internal debt that relies on exporting entertainment, tech, and cars is losing its identity???
That's what you get for traveling to the most touristy places in Japan. What did you expect?
I have a question for you anons,
I wanted to know if anyone can give me advise from REAL experience on how Japanese people treat other Asians in Japan (preferably from Japanese users, not experts who never been involved with the Japanese culture).
My gf is due to travel there in a few months and she looks like a mixed race Japanese (she looks about 50/50 korean/japanese). I want to know what type of treatment she could expect from the local population in Japan.
she speaks English only,
Plz help.
>50/50 korean japanese
Half of koreans and japanese are completely indistinguishable to begin with. She will be treated the same as any other foreign born japanese. That is to say, not at all because other people can’t see your tulpas
People will ignore her and she will go on with no issue.
If she looks Chinese (not white more like yellow) then people will ignore her but in some places they will refuse service
OP, what if I told you that although it may seem like all of the tourists and non-traditional Japanese people are gays, it is indeed you, the OP, the OP who made this stupid thread and keeps replying to it, that is in fact, beyond any doubt of mind, the gay in this situation. Thank you for reading my post.
>oh no pop music is popular
medium is message
OP, I just got home from Japan after a 10 day visit and I can't relate to your post at all. I had an amazing time in Japan. I made so many new Japanese friends, got the Instagram handles for a bunch of cute Japanese girls, drank beer with old Japanese surfers until 2am, ate so much delicious food in so many hole-in-the-wall restaurants... I spoke Japanese every day, slept only in capsule hotels, followed my gut, and always said, "yes".
Have you considered that you're a travelcel, and you only go to places that are considered "safe" and "familiar"? How many times did you stray from the crowds and venture off into unknown territory?
Japan won't find you. But you can find Japan, if you try hard enough.
What level is your japanese language s;peaking?
also do you have like a cool normie tier insta acc.
very basic. studied japanese for only a year in uni. but being in japan, it's sink or swim. i spoke and listened as much as i could, and my abilities grew fast.
yes. very normie. i post basic bitch travel photos and pics of every day life.
>Hear an English song in Japan
>It's over, the East has fallen
>Billions must die
Yep, they'll cheat on you with some black dude who came to Japan and then they'll exclusively speak ebonics and only listen to rap music
It's over
Owari da
This shit literally never happens. Like literally never.
bro he bein sarcastic oh my gaw
Boy oh boy, if you think Japan is Americanized, then dont ever go to Korea.
you visited a major city you idiot. Got talk to inakamono and you'll find your Japanese
>There is western music playing
This is normal in almost every civilization. This isn't even a new thing, it's been like this for decades. I've heard western music in Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, even India and Sri Lanka.
If we narrow it down further, Europe, which IS the west, plays a lot of American music.
>I've been here a week
>I fly back to Canada in a few days
So you're only gonna be in Japan for a week and some change, it's not like you were gonna get the ideal experience either way.
It's owarigo, last time I was in Akihabara I saw a black guy. Weeaboo gay.
How is it blacks jeets and arabs can go to Japan but someone who KNOWS and RESPECTS the culture can't?
it started with the black ships anon
Japanese obsession with America is one of the saddest things in the world to me.
I remember during some election there was live footage of one of the voting locations, showing fat amerimutts wearing stained t-shirts and sweatpants, wobbling around to get to voting machines.
And the Japanese, ever sharply dressed and orderly, attentively reporting on it all. The contrast is just absurd, as it the fact that the most intelligent people in the world would care so much about the doings of some obese retards.
This must be what it feels like when your son is some wunderkind who can effortlessly play the violin, only for him to discover hiphop and now he wants to "sling dope and fuck hoes" and you're pretty sure he's been smoking weed.
tldr weeb goes to japan
>tourist complaining about tourists
fuck off
>you have like 2 or 3 good ones that are willing to sell the good stuff
>Canadian
e-boicon confirmed. have a nice day you stupid weeb.
No, domestic music in Japan still has stronger sales than international music. For example, you can have rappers like Lil Pump visit in Japan yet nobody recognizes him on the street because the average Japanese citizen does not care about American rappers.
>Akihabara
Oh I found your problem. Explore outside even a little, like walk about 5 or 10 minutes outside the main strip and you'll see the English signs immediately dissappear. That place is tourist central, I was very shocked by that when I visited there. I walked outside of the main strip lookig for food and immediately ran into offices and living areas without any to little English signs. And there were porn shops there, but you had to look for them. I saw a few on my time there (even walked into one accidentally). That was 2021 so maybe its different now from the pandemic.
Also you hear English and Chinese and Korean (I think) in the train stations because that is like hearing English and Spanish in America. Those are some of the more commonly spoken languages there besides Japanese, and if you live in Japan you most likely won't ever be listening to the instructions just watching the signs, etc.
I'm going to osaka tomorrow hopefully there's no morons
>eating lunch at Lawson
All those amazing restaurants and you choose a convenient store. Don't care if it's good for a convenient store, stop being a pussy and go eat properly made food
Are you one of those English-teaching rejects? Because fuck if you're not retarded.
I kinda of don't know what to feel about this thread.
I myself landed in Japan a week ago and am depressed as shit
>akihabara is like 60/40 foreigners to locals
>most of the legendary doujinshi shops closed and you have to basically herd in like cattle to goyslop levels of doujins
>soapshops that you hope for are all gone at this point stuck up with enough foreigners they actively shoo you away(it happened to me even though I was going to pay nearly 20,000 yen over asking price)
>moronS and JEETS are everywhere I can't go back to shinjuku which I hoped to have some cool fun seeing slick yakuza standing around, no just moronS
>They speak English or bring English menu to you simply because they think you are American (north London and the good part of it)
>Trains are separated now meaning no possible QT's shoving against you
>foreigners are loud and give a bad impression to you
>doujinshi reading in public is now looked down on and can't be bought at 711 like the good days(no not all of it is porn to rub a quicky on)
I agree Americans are the worst part of Japan and have really raped it into the ground similar to what is happening back home to my city. I wanted to teach English here, settle down, and live a happy peaceful life... Now I am not sure, maybe Norway has better trad wives.
yeah dude I also learned everything I know about Japan from 4chan
>maybe Norway has better trad wives
lmao, the most clueless guy on this board
>go to tourist spots
>complain that they cater to you and tourists
The problem you describe is something that resulted from a period of decades and millions of tourists comprised of people just like YOU
You just sound extremely greasy and degenerate
>doujinshi reading in public is now looked down on
Good, be a big boy and stop reading those comic books.
When I walk around Shibuya and Shinjuku I see almost zero foreigners, not including the blacks that come out to hustle at night.
>Japan has FALLLENEEN!!!
>went to Tokyo
>only to visit Akihabara with that
The American cargo culting characterised Japan in the 80s and 90s just as much as today.
But obviously, seeing it today is more worrying since now US culture is a black anal cavity of 'culture'.
What are these 2 or 3 good dousing shops in Akihabara? Been there a couple times the past few weeks and it is kinda lame compared to even a few years ago
Doujin* fucking phone
>people consistently speak english to me without realizing I speak Japanese(simply because I am white)
People kept speaking Japanese to me even though I don't speak two words of it, I bet you're dressed like an American tourist.
>There is western music playing in the Lawsons I visit for lunch
Why are you eating lunch at lawson instead of local restaurants/ramen places?
Tokyo has Michelin starred ramen and the most Michelin starred/Bib Gourmand restaurants of any cities if you're too afraid to find places yourself.
And if it's late at night there's always sukiyaki and the likes.
>What annoys me the most is that there are practically 0 doujinshi shops in Akihabara now, you have like 2 or 3 good ones that are willing to sell the good stuff. Comiket was a relief but running into the amount of foreigners there was embarrassing.
Stop pretending you're not a stupid foreigner as well, we all are get over it.
Also Comiket and doujins are lame, you're in a country where you can easily make 7/10 and above Japanese cuties eat your shit for some ¥ and you just jack off to cartoons?
Best vacations of my life personally, maybe stop being poor/lame. Is it your first time out of the US?
should've gone outside the big city
don't pretend like london, rome, berlin etc. aren't all glohohomo as well
>Go to Japan
>visit the virgins district known as Akihabara
Here, this is how you visit a country:
The east has fallen 🙁
Japan is just another consoomer tourist trap country. The boomers had Italy and France, now Zoomies have Japan and Korea.
ironically Japanese and Korean zoomers treat France and Italy as their choice locations
Comiket wasn’t a week ago.
McDonalds is better everywhere outside USA