How do you go to Japan without being classified as just a other tourist? I have holiday coming in a few weeks and just realized we had a travel board on this site. I don't want to be just another tourist or anything getting thrown into the slop of burgers
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Don't look like a tourist. Don't sound like a tourist. Don't wear a fanny pack like a tourist.
That's the problem I hear they have kebab stands in Akihabara and that McDonald's isn't just a meme there. Japanese have been ruined by mutt moutbreaters I'm scared that because I am white they won't treat me fairly compared the the sheeple they deal with. I have 2 weeks in Tokyo and 2 weeks in Kyoto, I don't want to frick this up. Also has anyone here been to Japan?
>muh mutts
heres a blackpill for you, you butthurt moron. japanese people absolutely fricking love americans. why? because compared to japanese, americans are fricking loaded, and with the currency exchange rates where they are now between the yen and us dollar, american tourists are coming in in droves and are spending huge amounts of money because everything is available on a discount to them. money talks and the japanese literally are in love with american tourists right now and cannot get enough of them. i literally just got back from japan in november. being a broke butthurt b***h from a country with a shit currency isn't going to do you any favors, no matter how good you think your japanese is or how skilled you are at using chopsticks, if you don't splash cash like americans, nobody is going to give a frick about you.
fat
>another American derangement thread
You people need to get a life
I went to Japan at the end of October. On the two occasions I ate at McDonalds I was the only white person. If you want to be treated like a japanese person would, go to france where they are rude. it is the same
People in Tokyo and Kyoto will not even notice you unless you interact with them. The whole "white people are unknown to Japanese" ended decades ago. Even if they cheat you the dollar is crushing the yen so much you'll still pay less than in America.
One piece of advice though - if a sushi place asks you "wasabi ok?" The correct response is No. They're setting you up for punishment levels of wasabi for a laugh. Just avoid touristy sushi places though and you'll be fine.
don't be a loud obnoxious butthole and you'll be fine
oh too late
you'll be seen as a tourist regardless of what you do since they're first thought will always be "he's not japanese, he must be on holiday or an english teacher" there's nothing inherently bad about this, just don't act like one when talking to them/tell them you aren't if you aren't and you'll be fine, shit some will probably go out of their way to talk to you compared to other customers etc if the area is rural and you're foreign
>japan has been ruined by mutts
a little but those are mostly non white mutts, the ones that actually are ruining japan that the japs hate are the indians and chinks, if you don't act like the people do there then you'll be fine
I never ever wanted to be "japanese" when living in Japan. I've always leveraged my gajin status and just politely tell Japanese people I live in Japan.
If you make an effort to learn the language and not treat it as a theme park, life here is so much better.
I couldn't have asked for better neighbors in the world, who I trust to look after my place when I'm gone on travel/work.
If its a case of just not losing face and secretly hating my guts I still don't care.
> I don't want to be just another tourist
If your only reason for visiting Japan is recreation or pleasure, then you are just another tourist.
That said, if your real fear is only experiencing a facade and not "the true Japan", then you need to force yourself to go off the beaten path to the areas where people actually live. Suburbs, small towns, etc.
I probably know more about Japan and speak more Japanese than you.
If you actually knew that much you wouldn't be asking such a dumbass question.
>h-hey I'm a special and unique Japanophile, not like the others!
big cities aren't a facade. people live their lives in cities just like they do elsewhere.
Stats show 185K Amerimutts arriving in Japan last November, 7.6% of arrivals. Compare to 115K mutts arriving in Thailand last January, 3.8% of arrivals. Was surprised to see that, more mutts visiting Japan than Thailand, kek.
However, 880K Europeans arrived in Thailand January 2024, while Japan only saw 112K Euroids arrive November 2023.
Europeans are poor that is why. Europeans also dont have the exchange rate advantage that Americans do in Japan with the USD/Yen.
EUR/JPY is pretty favourable right now THOUGH
wow wtf? why do so many Euros go to Thailand???
isn't prostitution already legal in Euroland
Don't get it twisted, Thailand is normie as frick now, tons of these European travelers are women themselves, both solo and as couples with their boyfriends/husbands. There are just as many white western women there now as there are white men.
goddamn normies ruining thailand for us perverted single men
this
why tf are so many going to thailand? just the trannies or what?
kek
>just the trainnies or what
nobody tell him
You convinced your parents to let you travel?
>autism ramble
Just embrace it
Picture related, it's me.
marry a jap woman
Why? If you're a citizen you have to abide by thier millions of rules
>how do I become a Real Traveler™?
You stop sucking so many wieners, OP
Learn Japanese and talk to people
Anon the Japanese are very friendly. If you're friendly back to them then they'll like you.
They're not friendly they're polite
Are you a decent looking guy? Go to a gay bar or okama bar. You will make lots of local friends really quickly.
you won't be like the other weebs, this is how it will go for you
>wow, u do no rook rike the other gaijin, u do speaku the japanese and eat natto too? super sugoi!
>ur arr honorary japanese now, hatamoto, prease frick my daughterfu, bwc
>bows
Honest answer:
-dress well and appropriately
-don’t use heavily scented colognes or deoderant sprays
-stay in less touristy areas (avoid Shibuya) grab an airBnB even
-use Japanese exclusively
-bow and say arigatoi gozaimasu every opportunity
-engage with staff
-be polite, smile, and follow customs best you can (inside voice, no pointing with chopsticks, no banging spoons against bowls, no blowing your nose with the hand towel, etc)
-drink and be generous
-don’t let the inevitable awkward interactions ruin it for you
These are the only posts with good advice in this thread.
Don't act like one. be normal.
Get a local person (man or woman, it doesn't matter) to hang out with you and tell you about the place. This last one really helped me out avoid being a baka gaijin and she was really kind to tell me more about what shops do, table etiquette, etc. My only giveaway was using Google maps on my phone all the time
You are just another tourist. You will line up to tax free lines like the non-Japanese passport holders that we are. If you don't look like them, they will typically speak in Nihonggo then if they see you don't understand shit, they will speak English keywords. Simple.
They ca tell Koreans, Taiwanese and Chinese apart from their own based on fashion, quietness, behavior and attitude
Japan really needs a requirement like having an n5 before visiting
You can get N5 in 15 minutes lol
Which is why it should be a requirement.
no you can't
*slaps you for your foul lies*
>How do you go to Japan without being classified as just a other tourist?
why the frick do you care moron
You will always be an other as a non-japanese. No matter how long you live there, no matter how good your japanese is, people will always assume you're visiting. This is normal, and how it should be. Another idiot consumed by "I want to be the special gaijin" disease...
Hilarious that it's always Japan, of all places.
Sorry, but being a moron foreigner in Japan is now mainstream
You'll have to be even more moronic if you want to be seen as not like them, raise the bar
May I recommend shitting in the street?
bro i dont care what they think, i will go in then we frick ill take a beer ill smoke whatevers for sale put in my 40 hours of work a week then leave when im tired as shit of their crap. Im aiming to be there probably in few years, you gotta let it calm down and become uncool.
I actually have the other problem, I'm jlpt n1 and moving to japan for my job which pays me around 300k/yr. I don't want any of them to know how much I make or talk to me at all besides either ignoring me since I'm gaijin scum. How can I just pretend to be some tourist, even after they realize I actually live there?
Should add usd not yen so morons don't actually think I'm a poor
Im in the similar boat as you but as SOFA member.
Truth be told no one cares, and since you are here you have the opportunity to make yourself into a multi millionaire so long as you keep your spending on dumb shit low and invest in as much property as you can you'll make it big.
If you work for a Japanese company be aware that you will be passed up for advancement and recognition and other Japanese will resent you so you have to deal with that. As long as you present yourself not a wage cuck employ and are seen as an asset (seriously study on fluency) I can't emphasize how far you will get here.
On that note do make friends man even in the work place. I know people say don't trust your co-workers but I can't tell you how powerful allies are here.
Enjoy your time here. Japanese is difficult but it's not impossible and there are harder Euro languages out there.
Nah my company is American I refuse to work for kuro kaisha
I actually do have an interest in real estate and property but I always heard japanese houses aren't good investments generally, do you have any recommendations on how to get started?
Also I am wfh for an American company so I really don't have to deal with any office bs, although I suppose this makes making friends also impossible
>Moving to japan to work on an american company on a WFH arrangement.
anon, do you realize that getting a work visa requires that you NEED to be in Japan? Like if it's all remotely and the company isn't even japanese there's almost no reason they will give you a visa since you don't need to be physically in Japan
Lmao nth time some homosexual comes me and tells me I can't do what I'm doing because x,y,z and I must be larping. Do you know what an EOR is Black person?
I honestly don't care. You are either larping or you sound like one of the most miserable people to be and to be around. Don't know which one is sadder.
Speak fluent Japanese with a natural accent and inflections for your age and go to places with no tourists - I had people asking me how long I'd lived in Japan and if I was a college student there (not patronizing nihongo jouzu bullshit). This is coming from a very dark skinned Indian American man, albeit I had brought somewhat nice clothes and grown out my hair to fit in with what I'd read was the fashion there. If you see another foreigner or English language menus somewhere that's not a big chain or if the people there have decent English capabilities, you're in the WRONG PLACE and will be getting ripped off.
Have fun and feel free to ask questions
Avoid Tokyo, Kyoto and Osaka, which is where you'll find 99% of tourists. Conversely, it's also where you'll find 99% of English language proficiency.
ITT: entitled homosexuals acting as if Japan was purpose-built for their enjoyment
Who gives a frick? Why do you want to fit in so badly? What's wrong with being a tourist? If you're not Japanese person, stop trying so hard to be one.
because liking Japan is MY thing, nobody else's
You are pathetic no matter if what you say it's true or not. It's even more pathetic if what you are saying it's true tbh, if you have that "amazing life" you are claiming and need to be showing off in a random internet board and get so mad when people are calling your bullshit and resort to the most 12th grade insults I've seen it's pretty fricking sad
japan has banned foreigners from kyoto, now pretty soon the whole country. nothing you can do about it.