How is it post-Millei? Can you still get good deals with the USD or is the blue rate cucked now?
How is it post-Millei? Can you still get good deals with the USD or is the blue rate cucked now?
How is it post-Millei? Can you still get good deals with the USD or is the blue rate cucked now?
This also interests me.
I'm looking to gtfo the US this year and I'd imagined that the current situation would mean my USD's would flex super hard -- and I really haven't found anywhere that doesn't look like totally overpriced bullshit.
Currently, the usd exchange rate is low as middle class people keep selling their savings in usd in order to pay for the bills. So there is big offer of usd in the market and little demand of usd as few people can afford to have savings.
Still cheap compared to other south American countries.
Anyway why the frick will you go there?
T. Argentinean that emigrated 10 years ago
>Argentinean that emigrated 10 years ago
Would you go back if you had USD passive or remote income at US levels?
No, not at all.
It's not about money, it's about the complete degradation of the society. While there is still good people in there, most of the people became hedonistic frickers.
For clarification I come from an upper middle class family, my family owns real state in different cities. I have established my own company out of Argentina.
So, in my case, moving out of Argentina wasn't related to money.
I like South America a lot, the women, the food, the slower pace of life, the climate in most of those countries anyway, but the place does have serious civilizational issues and a lot of emigrants from latin america complain about the crab-in-bucket mentality there.
While I agree that south American women are nice, particularly Paraguay or Colombia, argentina has the worst kind of woke women. Or at least in Buenos Aires, basically the whole men are evil shit you hear in the US in Buenos Aires will be 10 times worse. I think the northern provinces are better though.
Regarding the life pace Buenos Aires is pure chaos, so you might want to go to other city
can you moneymaxx them tho if you know what I mean? in the current economy?
It's doable I guess.
Still I think Colombia or paraguay are more interesting alternatives for doing that
I'm double posting like a homosexual but this is moronic, Argie millipillis have attitudes like angels compared to angloid burger women. You have no idea how cartoonishly horrible US women are to say literally any group of women isn't better.
>the whole men are evil shit you hear in the US in Buenos Aires will be 10 times worse
I highly doubt that. From everybody I know who’ve gone there they’ve said the opposite. “Worse” than burger women would basically be tantamount to women jumping you with weapons from behind in the street. Burger women are max awful, cant get worse while also being possible to stay alive.
Have you never seen that photo of the monkey-like (not racism, that specific person literally looks like a monkey) woman screeching naked in the middle of the street at a pro-abortion protest? That's in Argentina. It really is that bad. Sexism in the US has never been nearly as strong as in Latin America. Combine that with Argentina's former relative prosperity, which allows them to care about made-up issues, and the result is as that anon described.
I know what oic you’re talking about. That rally seemed very small though. There were only a couple dozen people
I’m a burger living in Argentina, you’re right, this Black person is fudding. I heard shit like this before I moved here. It’s true the country is not as based as Saudi Arabia, but from a women standpoint the country is literally heaven if you are white compared to the US. Girls are much friendlier here and don’t really care ab politics, they also look much better. Also to my surprise there is actually a not insignificant amount of women in their early 20’s here who are beautiful and still virgins, but they live outside the city and you need to be white and speak Spanish.
No I stay here indefinitely as a tourist and just leave and come back every three months or pay a fine for overstaying which is like $20. If you’re white and on a US passport I don’t think they care as long as you don’t bother anyone.
Bro that is one famous pic of one rally I could find plenty of similar pics from the US. Coming from someone who grew up in the US, unless you are from another angloid shithole your brain cannot comprehend how awful US women and the dynamic between men and women is in the US. If you imagine the most boomer women hysteria talk about muh women in Afghanistan, the US is essentially the matriarchal version of what dumb boomer women think muslim countries are like but 10 times worse. Even if you meet a girl who personally is nice, the social environment still makes in impossible for you to have a healthy relationship with her. American society is matriarchal on such a fundamental level that it is literally impossible for there to ever be any social improvement in the US under and circumstance because it is so ingrained in an unconscious way it would be impossible to fix without a total maoist style complete destruction of the entire culture by brutal force. This is how extremely bad the woman situation in the US is. If I had to go back to that prison society I would rope.
Canada is a shithole and Canadians are shit.
Anon I don't know for how long you been in Argentina. It might be charming at first, but then as time goes by and you see how fricked everything is you will begin to dislike it. I mean nothing working at all, tax insanity, crime out of control, strikes corruption and more.
Regarding argentinean women they might be like that when you begin to know them if you get married your life as a free man is over. They will control you and if they divorce you they will bankrupt you.
T. Took the yellow pill in asia
Of course the financial shit is true, but I unironically think Argentina is probably a good investment opportunity. The US is like a chart about to crash, Argentina is potentially already crashed and bottomed. As for the crime, we have this the same in my country but probably worse. Here they just want your shit, in the US they either want to kill you for being white or they’re just insane homeless fent addict zombies There are honestly a lot more homeless on the streets in the US than there are here.
For the women maybe there is some truth here but there is no arguing that they’re much better than US women, you have no idea how good you have it homosexual. Argentinian girls can give a level of affection that ice cold American girls are completely incapable of, you wouldn’t understand. And in the US there is no Paraguayan embassy to break your dry spell. Anyway, I take anything about women yellowfevergays say with a grain of salt. I’ve never really been into Asian women very much and the decent Asian women only dat Asian men. The ones who date foreigners are the leftover misfits the locals tried and didn’t want to make a final purchase on.
Argentina has been crashing for decades, each crash worse than the previous one. If you invest in argentina, be prepared to be taxed like crazy.
Naturally, argentinas are better than white women. That's not saying much though.
Anyway, good luck anon. Hope your bet in a broke country goes well
investment and Argentina are two words that should never go together
>T. Took the yellow pill in asia
Blud thinks that the majority of the population in Argentina is asian.
do you have any problems with tax residency, assuming that you are there more than 183 days a year? border runs solve the visa issue but supposedly you owe taxes if you are there more than 183 days.
Don't. Canada is a thirdie tier shithole. If you're a multimillionaire sure, you can just not notice the homeless and the junkies, the overal rundown and or cheap feel to everything. Then again, that's pretty much true for everywhere.
If you want a nice place to live in with a nice outlook in the coming future move to Asia or Russia.
t. Britishicolumbian
>If you want a nice place to live in with a nice outlook in the coming future move to Asia or Russia
Le brics meme is going strong
Feminist or not doesn't really matter lol, if they are attracted to you they act different. Foids in CDMX are all hyper feminists yet crave white wiener
>most of the people became hedonistic frickers
Cipayo vendepatria nunca mas vuelvas
Noo you can't have a better life overseas because you just can't ok?
Imbécil negador de la realidad, no podes negar que el argentino promedio se alejó de nuestros valores católicos y los reemplazo por mierda degenerada y consumista.
>mierda degenerada y consumista.
and in what western country are you living where they arent degerante and consumers?
Tilingo detected. Let me guess for you moving overseas means Miami or at most Spain.
99.99% of Argentines living overseas move to Miami or Madrid and are the scum of the Earth.
Anon belongs to the class of parasites that deliberately turned Argentina away from its Catholic roots towards degenerate consumerism and crime.
Veo que la comprensión lectora no es tu fuerte.
Si te interesa tanto , me mude a Vietnam.
Onions católico practicante.
Vos sos un pobre pelotudo qué niega la realidad argentina.
Quedate allá y seguí viviendo una vida mediocre en un país en ruinas.
>Si te interesa tanto , me mude a Vietnam.
Boludo basado. Próximamente estaré por allá también, if I survive this year that is.
Are all the Argies going to Vietnam now? Why?
>Onions católico
Lost
I had a chuckle too
Kek spain and miami are the ultimate western shitholes
Kuka hija de puta quedate en Miami, por suerte Milei los dejó en la lona así no vuelven mas
T.chocolatario
Que colita golosa qué tenes, te gusta la de ~~*milei*~~ y la de caputo juntas.
Que pasa kumpa acaso no tenías que apoyar el modelo nac&pop? Por qué estas en miami?
Hable de milei y te pusiste loquita.
Los k me pueden chupar la verga como también me la puede chupar milei, macri, bullrich o cualquier político.
Chocolatario, tenes qué mejorar la compresión lectora. No estoy en Miami, si lees bien podes ver donde estoy.
Kuka de mierda dejá de hacerte el que estás en el centro que ya te saqué la ficha de que sos un zurdo mugroso. Sos tan pusilánime que sacas chapa por haberte ido del país después de votar a todos estos ladrones de los últimos años, nos haces un favor quedandote en Miami.
Tranqui chocolatario, no te pongas nervioso qué te va a hacer mal.
Como la tenes fija con Miami, se nota que es tu sueño vivir ahí. Pero bueno, no podes. Vas a tener que seguir viviendo en Morón
Nah sos un pelmazo, te enoja que te diga kuka mas que cuando te digo que vivis en Miami. Listo, quedate a vivir en estados hundidos zurdo mugroso.
Volvé al cole chocolatario así aprendes a leer.
Che qué lastima que el libervirgo de ~~*milei*~~ no te llevo a Miami. Bueno pasala lindo en Morón
Qué pasa kukardo? Estás enojado porque te comiste la curva de votar a Massa? Y de qué Miami me hablas si debes vivir en Vicente Lopez vos, ya te voy a ir a buscar.
A quick check of hotels reservable on Booking.com reveals that they all demand payment in USD, and rates are not what I'd call cheap. $30+ per night for a decent room, around $10-15 for a hostel bunk. The hotels in the $15 range all have horrible reviews. Not what I'd call a bargain by any stretch, especially when $15 can reserve you a nice room in so many other countries.
>Not what I'd call a bargain by any stretch, especially when $15 can reserve you a nice room in so many other countries.
What other countries are those?
I am surprised hotels are asking for usd only. They should accept payment in pesos if you want to do so. Maybe if you go there you can get them to accept your pesos? Not sure though
What I meant in my previous post was that the usd should be higher. Currently the usd is kept low due to the factors I mentioned before, thus making things expensive in usd
Argentina has so many fricking exchange rates that prices are basically meaningless.
latina feministas still go for big white colonizers tho
vacationers gonna pay whatever, they don't care. those of us who live in nightly lodging always multiply cost x 30 to see just what kind of deal we are getting
The rate is basically just "official" now, so it's still a good deal
But you should get an airbnb instead of a hotel, rates are not good as said
Personally I liked staying in the microcentro last time I went, although most tourists stay in recoleta and palermo where accomodation is a bit more expensive
>and rates are not what I'd call cheap. $30+ per night for a decent room
How is $30 a night not cheap?
Also I'd rather spend the money in Argentina than spend half in some coomer shithole in Laos.
You sound confused
You are paying in dollars so there is no difference for anybody to keep. The hotel or airline is unlikely to ever change that money into Argentine pesos.
This, but businesses will usually offer worse than market rates, for example, lets assume $1 USD = 1000 pesos at the market rate and a room or a meal will cost 20,000 pesos. The business owner offers to let you pay in dollars, at the rate of 900 pesos to USD, effectively charging you 10% more than you would pay if you had just purchased the pesos at an exchange and paid with them.
Your bank/CC and the exchange houses also arbitrage currency buy/sell spreads. For example, you purchase a train ticket for 30000 pesos, the CC bank purchases pesos from an argentinian bank at 1000 pesos per USD and sells them to you at 990 pesos per USD, they take those extra 300 pesos, convert them back into USD, and keep it. Exchange houses do the same.
That's how I assumed it would work, merci.
I am not morally opposed to having the hotels or airlines the spread but Amex can go frick itself.
Tbh big banks and CCs take a much smaller spread and you get pretty close to market rates. Banks will usually be within a percent or two of wholesale rates but a hotel might give you 10 percent less.
Just bring dollars and exchange them small amounts daily, the rates are better than any other option if you do your homework.
Yeah airbnbs are going for like $100+ a night in CDMX kek
>Anyway why the frick will you go there?
To get a better qol and arbitrage with my burger bux.
How is crime these days? I am 5'8 white guy with blue eyes so I feel like I would blend in with locals
I visited argentina last year. Crime was rough in big cities like Buenos Aires, but it was ok in smaller cities in the province. Don't know from which city in the us you are from, but if you are from say la, new York, Detroit, Baltimore, gary or any of those cities should be OK for you
>gary
Nobody is "from" gary, anon
>manlet
Yeah you would blend with the locals
Elaborate on this, will I get height mogged there or are locals around 5'10?
>Anyway why the frick will you go there?
Because I fricking love your country that's why. I spent three months there, one in caba, one in córdoba and one traveling around. I'm unironically considering moving to AR in 2-3 years.
t. Spanish speaking Pole
Same argentinean anon here.
Anon, argentina is doomed. A social collapse will take place soon.
The economy is fricked beyond repair.
crime is out of control.
Eastern Europe is a better place to stay.
Have you actually been to eastern europe?
I guess they can always count on the EU/NATO to bail them out but eastern europe is cold and depressing as hell in the winter especially. Argentina at least has a pleasant climate at least in the places most people live but is run like every other tropical country.
that anon doesn't live here, saying moronic shit like this
, most women are far from that in the country.
I lived in argentina for 23 years. I visit the country yearly. What I am saying is based in my observations .
Why don't you mention Rosario and it's narcos?
Or the bullshit of ni una menos which by the way most women follow?
maciej?
I am also Polish and I spent a year in Buenos Aires and I hated it. How did you get used to the sociopathy? At least here I feel safe crossing the street or using my phone in public.
Also, have you visited club polaco? What a joke that place is.
What was your experience like?
I can go on and on, but I'll keep this short since this isn't my personal blog. Argentines are incredibly arrogant, selfish with no sense of community (either you're family or you can go frick yourself), they don't care about not just the lives of others but theirs as well, constant bothering by beggars who want your food, constant noise in the unreliable public transportation (I HAVE THE MOST AMAZING STOLEN CHOCOLATE FOR 300 PESOS A BAR) that all authorities openly endorse, and frick me, the xenophobia. The Falklands propaganda is constant and inescapable. And the food is fricking trash. There.
Someone finally said it.
100% accurate, Argentina is an overrated shithole.
> tfw never got invited to an asado
To be honest there just something about Spanish speaking people that is off. I think this stems from a Spanish-influenced culture. Spaniards only care about their family and friends and literally do not interact or care with the outside world beyond that, that is often coupled with a certain arrogance and dismissal and disinterest towards anything foreign. Even they are in a different country they quickly form a group between eachother and refuse to integrate or show even the slightest interest in the culture of the country they're visiting, they'll try to make it seem as much as if they were at home and when things aren't like that, they become butthurt. I've started observing this with Spanish exchange students bit then I realized this is just how Spanish people are in general. The Portuguese are way more chill and open for some reason, but Spaniards often feel like this small buzzing annoying band of gypsies sorry I just can't overlook it
Don't get me wrong this attachment to the in-group goes for most of the Latins but French are way more open in my experience and Italians tend to display more tact and polite behavior than Spaniards
You did not miss much. Asado is shit. It's so dry, so flavourless. Asado makes me want to turn vegetarian, because they kill cows only to waste their meat. I had it many times and I never want to have it again. Argentines really don't know what they're doing with the meat, the heat, the flavour etc. straight up, asado tastes exactly like shitty barbeques we have in Eastern Europe to have something to eat with beer. Morsilla, matambre, sausages of course, we have all of those here. Also, I just don't know how you can like asado as a cut. It's literally all bone.
>it’s all bone
Anon… You know they’re supposed shred the asado, right? You got scammed homie
>supposed shred the asado
Shred the asado? I'm argentinian and we don't do this
Shut the frick up libtard, we have been governed by commies for decades and we are dirt poor because of it
Honestly, I don't care if you have to eat from the floor if that makes argentina cheaper to visit
>How did you get used to the sociopathy?
I'm from the US kek.
>Argentines are incredibly arrogant, selfish with no sense of community (either you're family or you can go frick yourself)
I think it's just harder if you don't speak Spanish, people are much friendlier than I'm used to in the US. The women love white guys which as a demoralized burger has been quite refreshing.
>constant bothering by beggars who want your food
This part is true and annoying.
>and frick me, the xenophobia. The Falklands propaganda is constant and inescapable.
kek get fricked britbong. You guys are the most hated travelers in Europe for a reason. All of you homosexuals give me smug sociopath vibes and can't handle your alcohol and your women are absolutely disgusting.
>And the food is fricking trash. There.
Compared to what? Argie beef and wine are top tier and regarded as such throughout the world. British food is universally laughed at lmao.
Blue rate is the real rate.
If blue rate is same as official rate, that means the official rate has moved to the blue rate, not the other way around
You misunderstand what the blue rate was.
Blue rate is the actual rate. It is the actual market value of the Argentine peso.
The official rate is a number made up by the Argentine government.
Tourists changing money with blue rate weren't "taking advantage" or anything. Changing money into blue rate is just not actively being scammed by the Argentine government.
It's great.
We can't afford food or pay the bills but that doesn't matter, what matters is that Milei has made us the freest country in the world, everyone envies us.
Proof: a lot of Americans and Europeans are thinking of emigrating here for a reason.
frick you kirchnerist
Now not only is it expensive for tourists and expats, but there are no controls for the soaring inflation kek. Its probably better in the long run but damage seems like its already done and lolberts will keep coping with 2 more weeks
Inflation is about to drop down to a single digit, what are you talking about?
>Anyway why the frick will you go there?
Fly fishing trip. Maybe see Antartica.
>post-Millei
Milei is still in office
If you guys don't mind the stupid questions; I'm mostly a ignorant north american normie. I am not most concerned with getting the most out of my money spent on a vacation; travel is an expense that I am not trying to insist on the lowest price possible.
If there are differences between the official rate and blue rates, do the vendors keep the difference or do the banks get it? For convenience sake, let's say that I book a flight and hotels in advance and pay with my credit card, does the hotel get any difference of does the bank and/or Visa pocket the difference?
I'm really thinking of making a trip to Patagonia in 2025 around this time of the year. Political, economic and social situation aside, the geography and geology is amazing and it's been a bucket list place for years.
Burger here. I moved down here because I was ready to an hero if I had to spend another day in the US prison society so I moved here without telling my employer with the intention of fricking affordable hookers but I ended up meeting a sweet girl(not a hooker) and falling in love like a homosexual.
I like it here overall. The food is good, the women look good and aren't as demonic as angloid monsters, the people are much friendlier than in the US and I'm not a poorgay here like I was in the US. I'm white though I heard girls won't frick you here if you're black, topkek.
Sounds like a dream come true. I’m on the edge, bro. I can’t spend another minute here in frickmerica. I have like 50k to my name and a sailboat. Can I just ride down there and live? Do they check your immigration stats there? Do they care if I overstay a tourist visa? Can I just pop in on my sailboat without checking in or do their coasties/marinas report you there if you dont ge the stamp? Is it easy to get extended visas?
Im serious dude I cant with these people here anymore. I have to go SOMEWHERE. It’s either I slide to south america or slide over to somewhere I know better but thats way more expensive.
>Do they check your immigration stats there?
>Do they care if I overstay a tourist visa?
No, the official policy in their constitution is they welcome all (european) people to settle their land and plow their women
not OP, but im a burger med student who wants to leave this country after residency and move to a rural area and work. I love the mountains, and don't want to live next to chain stores and strip malls my whole life.
Do truly remote rural villages still exist in Argentina? Would they accept a foreigner if I tried my hardest to integrate into the culture, or would I always be a bit of an outcast? thanks anons
They'll be calling you gringo but make no biggie out of it.
i'm down with that
Unironically just go to BC or western Alberta. They’ll suck the skin right off your dick for being a doctor that wants to live in a rural area. Doubly so if you’re young
I’ve been living here for 3 months. The prices were not that good even before Milei. It’s actually pretty expensive for the quality you get. Unlike Mexico, nobody speaks a word of English. Argentines are not as friendly as other South Americans, like Mexicans or Brazilians, to me it seems like they have pretty cold and arrogant personality. Even in the nice neighborhoods Buenos Aires looks run down, with people sleeping on the street and dog piss smell everywhere. Food is not as good as Mexican but decent. All they have is le steaks, but I liked pizza fugazetta. There is no beaches in Buenos Aires, so there is no tropical feel and vibe like Brazil. The good side is that it’s probably the whitest country in America, definitely whiter than current US and Canada. There’s lots of mestizo Indian looking people, but I presume they are immigrants from Bolivia and Paraguay. Architecture is very nice but all the old buildings are not properly maintained, one by one these old buildings are demolished to put another commie block on top of it.
Overall it’s a decent place to live if you have remote income from abroad but I would rather look into Florinapolis,Brazil, Costa Rica or Mexico.
I spent a year in Florípa, would not suggest it. Prices are US tier and all consumer goods are shit quality domestic made bobo models due to tariffs.
>I spent a year in Florípa, would not suggest it.
Where did you stay and how is it outside of the busy season?
>Prices are US tier and all consumer goods are shit quality domestic made bobo models due to tariffs.
I'm aware of how Brazil works
>Prices are US tier
For goods, not services
>post-Millei?
post?
he's been in office... a month?
>57% unemployment
>250% inflation
Based Millei killing Argentina with no survivors
White 2007 Zimbabwe
Seems like a great country to be a big time land owner or van life granola person but not so great to be any other kind of person. Big landscapes with European-like climate, which is appealing to a lot of North Americans I guess. Don’t really see the appeal otherwise. The economy is a disaster. It’s not exactly a trad country.
What's the equivalent of Torres Del Paine National Park in Argentina in-terms of cougar/mountain leopard sightings and natural beauty?
the other side of the andes. the region around punta bandera and lake san martin, to the north
Any particular national park in the Argentina Patagonia?
I know that it is still cheap for tourists, I visited buenos aires last year and it was cheaper then, honestly it doesn't matter who is the
president of that god forsaken country, parties are cool, food is great, drinks are cheap and police always protects tourists, there's some hardcore poverty even on tourist areas so be alert, stay on the city
You're more likely to get mugged in BA than outside the city, moron.
Not true. I was in Mendoza literally last week.
I've been in Buenos Aires for two months. Some thoughts:
I've been paying $470/m for a one-bedroom apartment in a decent neighbourhood (not Palermo or Recoleta - they're priced to take advantage of the unadventurous). I'd say my expenses for life in BA including rent have been just over $1,000/month at a comfy but not luxurious level: eating and drinking out multiple times a week and doing a few activities like going to the cinema and museums/galleries. A good deal considering what BA offers culturally speaking and compared to the absolute robbery of cities of similar scale like London.
That said, supermarket produce is generally shit quality and more expensive than you'd think for items besides the Argentine stereotypes. Frustrating if you like your fruits, veggies, seafood, spices, and bread. Bottles of Malbec for under $2 is nice though. In terms of restaurants, there's something for all budget levels.
The blue dollar rate is no longer easy mode as such - a lot of things are priced accordingly. Many Argentines are suffering but at least for now it's still pretty affordable earning in foreign currencies. Sending money to yourself via Western Union currently gets you the best rates, though this hasn't always been the case.
At lot of things seem to get done via WhatsApp groups here - groups to find rentals, trade currencies at better rates, and what not. You might get an AirBnb that's a good deal at first or you might have to eat shit temporarily until you're on the ground and a bit more adjusted.
Don't go, mosquitos will get you
https://www.reddit.com/r/digitalnomad/comments/1btlvo5/buenos_aires_is_overrated/
Damn bros have prices really gone up this much? Frick man I was hoping to take advantage of the USD and assumed this inflationmaxxing would continue indefintely. Anyone who shilled for this lolberg is an idiot. Is there literally any destination that is relatively cheap anymore for what you get? It seems they get cucked by their governments or get invaded by digital nomads/passport bros like CDMX or Medellin
BA is a shithole, go to Mendoza, go to Jujuy, go to Bariloche, anywhere is better than being near p*rteños
i feel the same way
They dropped export controls so the price of beef has tripled. It used to be the government (Peronists) restricted exports so that the locals would have meat to eat. Now they don't give a shit about the locals having enough to eat.
Can someone explain to me how these lolisraelite policies are going to play out? Seems like a le just 2 more weeks economic policy. BRICS is a meme but they probably had a better shot at increasing ties than going all in with the USD and the policies they have going on now. This is not helping the locals or passport parasites kek
I see zero reason to go to BA than any city in Spain. Maybe for inflationmaxxing to do things janitors dont like but I dont know how prices for such things are nowadays. I can get cheaper flights to Spain and find ways to save more money
Planning on going for about 2 weeks on vacation in November, how's crime in BA theses day? Also I was thinking BA, Mendoza, Bariloche and Patagonia, any other places worth going? Heard good things about Salta and Jujuy and the whole desert-y vibe seems cool, would it be easy to rent a car around that area?
Why is the pizza in this country so nasty looking has nobody invented good pizza here yet?
The Napoletana is pretty good.
Go to Japan. It's cheap these days, clean, safe and everything runs like clockwork.