How is life in the 'guo these days? I'm gonna be there in a month, what am I in for?
How is life in the 'guo these days? I'm gonna be there in a month, what am I in for?
How is life in the 'guo these days? I'm gonna be there in a month, what am I in for?
God I miss CCJ, don't care that it was le leddit shit was funny
Life in the guo is shittier than pre covid but better than during covid
Indeed. I only got to experience one semester as a laowhy educaydor before the 'rona, but shit was good.
Don't really miss the beers though, such piss water. I remembered Wushu was decent, but tried it again recently and no, it's the same SML shit like QD and snow.
Wusu? The Xinjiang beer? I remember that shit would have me dead drunk quickly and I couldnt figure out why since the listed alc content wasnt any higher than other beers
Yes, that's the one. The stable of Xinjiang BBQ places.
I love how 80's China felt. This is right outside the Shanghai airport, but it still felt nice. Other airports in Asia produce a similar sensation for me.
Oh, right, I was replying to all of you to request some photos from your time in China. If you could commentate on them, that'd be even better!
I wasn't a fan of the beer either. I was scared I'd go blind or something from it. I've heard too many stories about knock off alcohol in China.
I squandered many great photo opportunities on my trip to China.. there's so much potential for great shots (from a Western perspective)
I don't have much to talk about except for I did X, and I didn't do Y. The trip was planned entirely by friends. It's not my style of traveling anymore, but it was good for young me who couldn't speak Mandarin
I can find my pics later but just want to say... I am unbelievably envious that you went to China in the 80s
Ohh, I can totally see how that can be interpreted that way, but what I really meant was, I love how China felt like it had an 80's vibe. I went in 2015. However, I did meet a guy in Canada that went in the 80's. He was a retired surgeon and said the healthcare community loved Canada because of their contributions towards penicillin.
>I can find my pics later
I look forward to it!
I really wanted to go for walks on these random farm roads I saw whilst on the trains. My Chinese friends didn't understand why. The contrast between the shabby, crumbling houses with no windows, and the vivid purple roof tiles is intriguing,
This random city somewhere south of Changsha was pretty barren for Asia standards.
Mount Crumpet in Zhengjiajie
Some random place outside a mall in Changsha. I took really bad photos on my trip, damn
i miss jcj even doe it was literally like 5 guys trash talking random jvloggers it was comfy. why is reddit sperging out and deleting everything Interesting
how are girls in China?
If youve been to other countries of Asia, compare.
Aligator god said so.
>Aligator god said so.
I could give you a quick rundown, but I'm not going to because you included this conceited homosexual shit.
>how are girls in China?
Less westernized than Japanese or Korean women and generally more conservative as is the culture on the whole. Chinese girls tend to be sheltered due to gender segregation in the school system, total absence of sex ed in the curriculum, illegality of porn, and the prudishness of state censors. Hooking up isn't normalized like in the west. Teachers actively interfere with students dating each other. It's not unusual for a girl to marry her first boyfriend which normally happens at a relatively young age (like right after college).
>less westernized than Japs and Koreans
True
>everything after that
Well written but completely wrong
None of this is mutually exclusive with the post you're responding to. I said Chinese girls tend to be sheltered, I never claimed that made them models of chastity.
>Well written but completely wrong
I get that this is the internet but your difference of opinion means less to me than you might realize. You don't need to brandish your familiarity with Chinese mens' rimming habits to prove that you're a subject matter expert.
Bringing up segregated schools (that don't exist), illegal porn, etc, and following that up with 'hooking up isnt normalized' seems like you are clearly implying chastity.
>I get that this is the internet but your difference of opinion means less to me than you might realize.
That my opinion might mean anything to you never crossed my mind. You contributed an opinion in public forum and I responded
>Bringing up segregated schools (that don't exist)
I didn't mean to imply that they're segregated like a Catholic girls school but relative to, say, American public schools they are. e.g., coed dorms are not a thing in Chinese universities at least from what I've seen, it's also not unusual for classes to be all male or all female.
>following that up with 'hooking up isnt normalized' seems like you are clearly implying chastity.
The point I was trying to make is that the culture is more conservative than Japan and South Korea; Chinese women tend to be more sheltered/naive as a consequence. That doesn't mean the women are necessarily more chaste, only that there are stronger social pressures that discourage western style sexual liberalism.
Fair enough on the segregated schools. But can you see how I'm not really following
>I'm not saying theyre more chaste
>Im just saying theyr'e less sexually liberal
Anyway even if we ignore the word 'chaste' entirely (since I'm the one who brought it up) I don't think your point is true. I think the Chinese are extremely sexually liberal just not in a way that is directly comparable to what we have in the west. There are still social pressures but they push more FOR marriage than they do against 'casual' sex. The hyper promiscuity (with no attendant social consequences) you can observe in any club/bar area, and the ubiquity of prostitution are both suggest a high degree of sexual liberalism IMO
Prostitution was ubiquitous in Victorian England yet it's not typically thought of as a sexually liberal society. The fact that prostitution is so ubiquitous is part of the reason they don't have hookup culture because it provides an outlet that renders all of the mating games that are so common in the modern west unneccessary. Going to wild drunken parties to get laid or farming phone numbers isn't the norm there, partly because Chinese men tend to be on the timid side but also because if they don't have a girlfriend it's easier to visit a prostitute. You also don't see much of the phenomenon of serial relationships that western women engage in where they sleep with a slew of men from their teens to early 30s and then decide to settle down and marry a nice guy because their biological clock is ticking. In general, Chinese women begin dating later but tend to marry and have children sooner in life because of social pressures that are absent in the west. Yet Chinese women are not chaste or prudish, if anything they're easier because they're less experienced and haven't been desensitized by men constantly trying to pick them up or by a highly sexualized culture around them.
Right but I'm not talking about Victorian England. I am saying in this case, in the Chinese context, it's indicative of looser sexual mores. China as a whole has always been much looser sexually than the West between concubinage and prostitution. Prostitution does provide an outlet to avoid the horrific dating market conditions of America but it doesn't make casual, non-p4p sex less common.
>Going to drunken parties to get laid...
That's what I'm saying. Chinese girls don't go to frat parties because they don't exist there. But a sizable segment of youth start going heavy to bars and clubs from age 18 and frick around like crazy. And Chinese men farm phone numbers (well, Wechat's) plenty, people approach each other in public all the time.
>Serial relationships
Agree. They don't do this. But I hold that outside of committed relationships they are quite promiscuous.
You lost, loser. Shut up and move on. Never talk shit about countries you know nothing about on this board ever again. If you want to process knowledge while not knowing even the basics, then frick off to SighSee
Lol, you've never even been to the real China, dingleberry.Fricking hate Shanghaibabbis clogging up all the Chink threads.
First comment not much of a contribution and brief due to phonepoasting. To expand:
You're right that Chinese girls tend to be naive and sheltered. By the end of undergrad they largely seem like 6th grade American girls personality wise. BUT don't let this delude you into thinking they are virginal and don't hook up. It would be wrong to say they have 'hook up culture' in any way directly resembling the situation in the US but they simply have a totally alien set of sexual mores which are not remotely 'trad' or prudish. There is no discourse around 'normalizing' hookups. Guys generally want low body count or virgin girls but also accept the reality that it is in fact normal, currently, for everyone to spend their 20s fricking around.
Chinese frick like rabbits, mostly starting in college, sometimes in high school (even with the discouragement of relationships). Schools are not gender segregated. No one would find it odd for a girl to marry her first boyfriend but it's not the norm to do so either. Porn is banned but not inaccessible and regardless Chinese men are sex crazed and want things by default that we'd consider odd (like rimming). Chinese girls are wonderful, they make wonderful gf's, wives, LBFM's, whatever you want them to be. But don't harbor any illusion that they are prudish and traditional as a people generally.
>Chinese girls are wonderful, they make wonderful gf's, wives, LBFM's, whatever you want them to be
I'm thinking of going back there to find a tradwife but the problem is in my mind, you cannot get them to leave and be an individual - live in a beach house, be early retired etc. The whole of China just seems to be one industrial, consumer mega sphere with little natural nature (not being cemented over with walk ways). Do you understand my slightly rambling concerns?
No I understand you completely as I and everyone else I know with a Chinese wife has same problem. It is basically unsolvable. Either accept that as a source of constant tension or find a girl who will submit completely to your will
I visited several times directly before covid and plan to go again soon. What’s changed since covid? I know a lot of places were going cashless before the pandemic and that was a pain in the ass to deal with as a foreigner without a Chinese bank account, but has that progressed into no cash accepted or anything? Have hotels become more annoying with registration or anything?
Technically illegal not to accept cash but idk what tourists will do if they're rejected. Don't think I see ppl use cash anymore tbh. Maybe carry exchange change so you can just give it and walk away.
Hotels require passport. Just book through trip. com since they only show ones that accept foreigners.
How hard is it to get a tech job there with zero chinese? Also, are there any trad women to wife up?
Trad women won’t even consider foreigners so you don’t need to think about that.
Trad women won’t consider anything because they don’t exist Chang
Go leave. You don’t even have a passport.
>How hard is it to get a tech job there with zero chinese?
Not impossible, but why would you want to? Chinese companies are not fun places to work and the job market is incredibly competitive. Six day work weeks are normal and you'll be lucky to earn as much as an ESL teacher while working 3x the hours. You'd be better off either working for a multinational or doing a low hours teaching gig for the visa while working remote.
>doing a low hours teaching gig for the visa while working remote.
Good luck with that. I'm doing exactly that in Bangkok and my ESL colleagues are seething.
It's not difficult in China. I had a university teaching gig that included visa and apartment and only worked 15 hours per week.
I'm not saying it's hard, I'm saying I'm doing the same thing. But be discreet, lots of losers in ESL, if they find out you are making bank and just doing their job for pocket money and a visa they will seethe hard. Have one insecure middle aged loser here in Bangkok whose mental health problems are obvious. Hates that I have more money than him
Nice. I already have a remote job and was entertaining the idea of moving to Thailand but the wife's not keen on it so I'm stuck being a serf in the goddamned US. Miss living in China but the political climate is too fricked up now.
What political climate lmao? You mean in the US right?
This forum is a terrible place to get advice on that. Too many weebs parroting it's a prostitutehouse or nun factory, when in reality everyone here is too timid to even look up from their phones.
>What political climate lmao? You mean in the US right?
It's more the state of the relationship between the US and China that concerns me.
Zero impact unless you're someone important to international relations or used as a bartering chip in worse case scenario like a missionary working illegally or an actual glowy. ESL teachers, tourists, coomers, 20 y/os are insignificant ants.
>are there any trad women to wife up?
Best year of my life studying there. 5 years ago. Miss it so much
I am looking to study over there this fall, already got into a couple top unis for Chinese Language Program. Any advice/thoughts?
Looking at a job in Chongqing. Me:
>40yo
> 6'0
>Bong
>lift/muscular
>5/10
Will be working remotely from an apartment in Chongqing. Want to find a qt leftover woman ∼ 30yo
What are my chances?
>What are my chances?
Pretty good. Try to portray yourself as a sophisticated British gentleman, play into the stereotypes.
Generally speaking, you do NOT want to work for a Chinese company in China. Maybe as a consultant or something like that, but certainly not as an employee.
How do you get a consulting job without even speaking the language? I can't even get a single American company (that works in China) to respond to me.
Can someone give me a qrd on finding a trad wife/dating in China? Tier 1 city.
Sounds like someone can't find their meds in China
Check the other China thread its been discussed ad nauseam
currently hot af, but otherwise really good, even with the second covid wave in progress (nobody cares)