How possible and advisable is dropping everything to live in NYC without first acquiring a job, place to stay, or much money put away?
How possible and advisable is dropping everything to live in NYC without first acquiring a job, place to stay, or much money put away?
New Yorkers are some of the most miserable shits I've ever met in my life. They cope by telling you that the bars are open until 4am. You'll need the extra drinking if you're going to live there.
>How possible and advisable is dropping everything to live in NYC without first acquiring a job, place to stay, or much money put away?
It’s barely possible and not at all advisable, I’d say, particularly as regards money. At the very least you need enough cash to survive without becoming homeless for as long as it takes you to find the job and the place to stay, not necessarily in that order. If you know people there you can crash with temporarily I would say it’s a lot more possible and at least a little more realistic/advisable—I know a few people who moved to NYC before they had anything lined up and survived. But they all had other friends, who had jobs and apartments already, to help them out.
Most people I know in New York (except for the ones who are actually from there, and one fairly rich person) at least had job offers before they went.
If you’re frugal, marketable, and ambitious you certainly have a shot at pulling it off. But the more network, hustle, and resources you have the less it will suck.
I only heard bad stuff about it, heard that living costs are also really high.
Think you'll be better off living somewhere outside NY.
Depends a bit on your skillset. If you are particularly skilled and have experience in an area, then it might not be so hard.
If you have bar or table waiting experience, then it's really easy to get those jobs, especially if you're a skilled bartender. I have a friend who only works Friday and Saturday night in a popular bar because he makes a few thousand dollars in tips each week, but that's an extreme example.
If it's a job that has a longer interview and hiring process, then I'd definitely try to start it before you arrive.
Unless you need to work in NYC for a certain career, then I'd personally say it's not worth it.
Find out how much your rent is then tack groceries on, that's how long you can stay without a job.
The worst idea I've ever heard. Okay listen, half my familys side grew up in brooklyn, I have friends in brooklyn, I've gone there on a whim for opportunities and exploration independently and to take care of documents and dealt with the offices and all kinds of people. It is a horrible stinky place filled with horrible miserable people who b***h and moan no stop about the city but will never fricking leave because "nyc is my home"
Oh yes the ambience of rats, honking horns and car alarms, robbery and schizos on the platforms pushing people onto it, sewage leaking onto you waiting to get on that train away from the schizos and the thugs blast music and try to hustle money from everyone. All the diseases you can catch from just breathing in the air. Businessmen, producers, scam artists all praying on young and old hopeful naive minds.
The cost of living puts most living there on welfare and paycheck to paycheck, all property owned by the rich or the boomers go have been there for a while, houses falling apart, empty skyscrapers of million dollar lofts, cesspool of god knows what.
You won't find a job, nobody is hiring and nobody wants you. You will never hustle enough money to live there. You aren't safe or clean there. Everyone hates you for breathing in their presence. Immigrants yell at you in their language and won't learn English, and will yell at you for that too.
You don't even have a plan
Do not go there without a job and housing already set up
i visited there and everyone I talked to (not even extrovertedly, just small talk w/ cashiers and workers in broadway theatres) was super nice
FYI, this is how people become homeless.
>Anon thinks it's still 1980
All the real New Yorkers left for Floriduh/Cali/Tayhass decades ago, all you got there now are Black folk, curry Black folk and goatfrickers
>NYC
>without a place to stay
>aka. homeless
>or much much money
Anon, I....
You unironically need to be rich to live in NYC. I have a techgay from Cali discord friend who has over 1M in the bank and still doesn’t think he made it lmao. The main draw of NYC is the job part part without that this is moronic. Also NYC only really mogs the rest of the US , basically any other country other than like the UK and Canada you will have access to way better pussy + food and people will be way nicer.
But why? New York is mostly a scam, dude. More than half of the city’s economy is real estate. It gets by on convincing young people they have to move there and pay totally insane rent prices.
You just repeated what I said moron topkek. You’re talking about socially adjusted people with careers which OP is not. You also mentioned that it’s most expensive. Case in point OP is fricked if he goes there without a good job/skills. Also I did say it mogs the rest of the US, but Europe, Asia, the ME, and parts of LatAm/SA, mog NYC in terms of most things with the exception of making money, which NYC and SF mog the world at. S tier is making money in NYC or SF and living somewhere else.
I moved to Brooklyn in 2019 with 5 grand in the bank and no job. Was trying to get a clothing business off the ground and was living in a shithole room and making clothes in my free time. The money goes quick, living like a monk and I was still hemorrhaging cash. Got a job as a science teacher after a few months which paid the bills. Met a woman and moved out of the city after the pandemic. It was worth it but make sure you have a few ideas of how to bring in money. For me it was teaching, but be prepared to scrape for a while until you land something, even food service or whatever. Thousands of college grads move there every month to try and hack it with the rest of us, most of them end up working as waiters or bartenders and make it happen. Give it a shot and see how you do. Good luck!
Also, definitely find a place to move in before you get there. Showing up homeless and with no money you will have a really, really tough time. This isn't the 1960s, just showing up with nothing will cost you way more in the long run. If you're just starting out like I was then find a dump room on Craigslist first and then go from there. You do not want to be homeless in the city.
I would honestly save up a 1 year living expense emergency fund if you wanna do that. You need a lot of cushion.
Will you burn through all of it? Probably not, but it would make the endeavor way more comfy
This is a homeless crack/heroin addict origin story OP. Do gangs still initiate on homeless people?
New Yorkers don't know any better. It's like a prison where everyone has PTSD. I've never been to a city anywhere in the world where people were more miserable. You keep telling yourself that a museum and a couple parties are worth living in that gloomy city filled with hordes of chronically depressed and angry people
Why the frick would you do something this moronic? I visited NYC just a month ago and I've never seen so many rats, homeless, and literal crimes taking place.
Stay in your shithole for all I care. Just remember you aren't welcome in the rest of the country when you leave your shithole and try to spread your liberal plague elsewhere.
New York City routinely ranks last of all US cities in happiness in pretty much every major study ever conducted.
https://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/08/05/the_happiest_big_cities_in_america_new_yorkers_are_miserable_no_matter_how.html
Didn't you watch that Bodega Bro video ,OP?
>did not read any of the posts and schizoiding out
classic angry israelite reaction. Imagine living in a city where everyone is like that
>can't escape schizochan @~@
It's not, NYC is a shithole if you aren't a consoomer
Two friends of mine did it to “discover themselves” living off unemployment for a bit, then finding a sweaty balls apt to bunk around before coming back to their parents 6 months later. I think they liked it. Just keep an exit plan fund anon
It’s a fine idea if you’re old enough you’re past the sort of naivety that might get you killed or hooked on drugs but young enough that wasting years of life doesn’t really matter. If you’re older than that, I’m not quite sure, but that’s only because I suspect there’s little to get out of it by the time you’re older. By the time a man’s in his thirties, he probably understands New York is bullshit.
If you want to be homeless it’s not a bad idea
People have been doing it for generations and will continue to do it for generations. If you come here expecting the lifestyle from "Friends" or SATC or Seinfeld, you'd better have money. If you're willing to be broke for a while as you get on your feet, you won't be the only person doing it, you just need to have realistic expectations. As in you're going to live in an "uncool" neighborhood, you're going to have a commute, you won't be riding between cafes on a vintage schwinn while folk music plays in your personal soundtrack.
Plenty of whiny mama's boys will move home after a year and cry that the city is mean and it sucks and you need a million dollars to survive. Those people are pathetic.
t. moved here with no money, put in the work, now own a condo in a gentrifying area, but it was a struggle
Yet you still sound like an entitled butthole.
>moved here with no money, put in the work, now own a condo in a gentrifying area
Wow, very impressive. I guess that gives you the right to shit on everyone else?
t. Actually New Yorker, born and raised who despises transplants like you who think they are something because they made a buck
t. 39, lives with parents, doesn't pay rent, just waiting for parents to die so he can rent out the top floors and quit multi-apping to keep up with the insurance payments on his 2008 X5 with a sweet subwoofer in the back and a huge gash on the passenger side that's been there for a year and has $1500 in unpaid fines accrued before he added the license plate concealer, most lucrative side hustle of selling bags of weed to fordham kids dried up with legalization, still seething about it and blames libtard transplants for fricking everything up, spends most of the day posting on the citizen app about alvin bragg wasting time persecuting orange man instead of going after the migrants and doesn't realize he was shadow banned months ago
Bro, you really need to live in Neely York so much?
not advisable
somebody wake me from this shithole
I fricking love SI because it's got a force field around it that repels insufferable brooklyn/western queens types. I just wish it wasn't so far away but it's an island of purity, a precious remnant of what new york was
>get shot by a Black person
Yeah that probably won't work... but it might work for you
I did it OP , here’s how : ( Posting from Queens now )
I was about 2 or 3 thousand in debt when i did it too .
I got a job through indeed.com for customer service in Midtown Manhattan right downtown street from Times Square before going . I took the interview via Zoom in a study room at my local library . It was set to pay 50k / year .
I booked an Air BnB for a month at the cheapest place in Brooklyn I could find which wound up being in the hood and i hated it . I used JusticeMap to find a safe place to live ( Anywhere along the 7 line )
I found a month to month room for 850 and with the security deposit that set me back 1700 . The hosts were understanding of my situation and refunded the unused part of my booked time .
What i didn’t think about was that i wouldn’t receive my first paycheck until 2 weeks after working there , so during that time i continued to max out my credit .
I got fired 6 weeks in and found a new job before finding yet another new job i actually like which pays fine
I’m well off now and out of debt because the cost of living is offset by the wages here .
There really is something special about this place , i don’t feel the need to go anywhere else now , because where else but here ? It’s got everything !
I would encourage you to do it but you got to have a job first for real because that paycheck isn’t coming until after working there for weeks , that or have about 4k cash (half of which will be your first months rent and security deposit , the other half to live 1 month )
Literally anything people praise new york for something you can have everywhere today. People used to go and live there because there was a lot if shit you could only procure there : decent food, big city amenities, jobs, etc.
The first two everyone has thanks to our modern advances. Walmarts and shopping mall got everything now, novel shit you can just cook yourself, and new york is as out of jobs as any place. The only reason I can see someone going to NYC is if they're finance people or artsy folks who want to make it. If you're going for NYC to find something you can find in Buffalo, you probably should go to the latter.
Especially if you're a fricking service worker which i hope you're not
The only real special thing about New York is the sheer quantity of opportunities and the way it looks. If you’re like an artist or an entrepreneur or an academic or anything really, you’ll meet more of your peers in New York than anywhere else on the planet. You’ll get more opportunities to get in galleries, to clients, to hear ideas, to go to seminars, to do all that shit that people who are trying to do something. I am a writer and I can tell you that having lived formerly in New York and now being in a rural area, it can be a little frustrating at times only because you don’t have that right at your finger tips. You can’t find other writers to bounce ideas off of easily, you can’t find publishers, the offices of which you can just walk into. There’s also the social and dating scene. You will just meet more people in New York. The downsides are basically that city life is hell, that you’re in a bubble, and that it’s too expensive. But the pros remain pros. Sometimes I think I need to move back because that’s where the publishers and readers are, but I really like where I live now.
I bet your writing is bad and I'm a better writer than you.
Pretty much an acquaintance of mine dropped everything and moved to Manhattan, became homeless and started living in a shelter. Now he's some dentist in Rye, Stanford. It is doable but mentally it will change you and you'll probably end up sucking dick for money.
I honestly dont understand how its possible. I have a friend who just dropped everything and is currently in bronx. Within 5 days they already have a social securtiy (which im assuming is fake), a bank checking account and already found a job in fast food for minimun wage paging 750 rent for a room. Is it really that easy?
easy just have an emergency exit plan if you dont make it
italians look just like the mutt meme
anybody here know any protips for winning the lottery so i can get a place in ny, la, london, and japan?
Is it still possible to pay cash in NYC and the US in general? Like in bars and restaurants?
yes, but usually people will expect a "cash tip". it's kind of annoying to handle so you should pay an extra 30-40% to whoever you are buying from. this is on top of the base tip if you are buying food from mcdonalds, resturaunts etc.
I lived in that stinking Black person infested shithole for 8 years. You couldn't pay me to go back. Not to mention post COVID lockdowns crushed all the good small businesses. It's even more worthless and dangerous than it was in 2010. But hey, enjoy OP.
do you mod the /r/nyc/ subreddit because you sound like it
I know it's bait but here goes
That's setting the bar for "normie" ridiculously high. The people that aren't working in IB/PE/Big Law, etc. are mostly trust fund kids and people who are pulling their hair out trying to make ends meet. And I'm not even including the Bronx and Harlem.
NYC is great, but people make living there they're whole personality.
With all the migrants filling up shelters and affordable housing in NYC, now is not a good time to be a broke joke in the city. If you have money, you can get a place to stay, and if you have a place to stay, you can get a job and more money. But without money, you are fricked.