I'm thinking of planning a trip to a few big American cities next year, which will be my first time in the U.S. The itinerary I have in mind so far is Washington, D.C - New York City - Boston and to spend 4-5 days in each of them. I know that these places are much more "diverse" compared to most Western European cities I've been to so far, which has me a bit worried about how safe it is. Are there any places in these cities I should really avoid and how do I otherwise avoid becoming a target of a chimpout?
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Boston is insanely safe. If I go out to the bars downtown on the weekend and don't feel like taking an uber, I'll walk alone straight through the middle of downtown and boston common on my way back to Cambridge and have never once felt unsafe
DC and NY are definitely not as safe (way more black people than Boston) but generally fine. You'll see shady Black folk in groups on the streets and hope they don't do anything but just try to avoid them
the lack of black people in Boston (compared to other big cities) is very refreshing. most of the time you run into them as service workers. at my ~1000 person office the only blacks are literally security
Which neighbhourhoods in NYC should I avoid? Are Brooklyn and Manhattan still okay these days?
Brooklyn and Manhattan are fricking huge - avoid anything in Brooklyn that isn't on the shore, imo, and avoid anything northeast of Central Park in Manhattan. Also avoid walking around downtown Manhattan at night if you can. Avoid the Bronx almost entirely, and Staten Island and Queens are pretty basic besides maybe Flushing and some parks near there, not totally necessary to visit.
I love NYC. Nothing else like it. It's a dirty shithole but I'd rather live there than anywhere else.
seattle and portland are the whitest large cities in the usa. you feel safe walking through them at night?
Seattle and Portland do not have a very high violent crime rate compared to other US cities. In fact both of them are safer than Boston, at least going by the numbers.
>In fact both of them are safer than Boston, at least going by the numbers.
Yup
Pic related, violent crime per 100,000 people sorted from least to greatest.
Only shows the top 60 of the top 100 in this screenshot though.
NORTH CAROLINA CHADS WHERE WE AT
It's only because NC classifies rape differently and thus reports it differently making it hard to compare to the other states using more modern reporting standards.
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BEST STATE IN THE US
Raleigh is incredibly safe either way, it would still be lowly ranked. Greensboro, maybe not.
>Raleigh is incredibly safe either way, it would still be lowly ranked. Greensboro
see
> Raleigh
> 8.55 + 316.63 + 467.13 = 792.31
And that's without accounting for rape at all, so assuming ANY rape happens in Raleigh then it'll be even higher.
Raleigh wouldn't even make the bottom cut of the entire list there. It's below San Fransisco.
You can add up what numbers are there for them and see they're not even close to top tier anon.
> Charlotte-Mecklenburg
9.40 + 220.53 + 433.52 = 663.45
> Raleigh
8.55 + 316.63 + 467.13 = 792.31
> Greensboro
15.86 + 281.47 + 480.61 = 777.94
This puts them between 56th and 72nd without even accounting for the missing rape numbers that would likely put them even lower.
Neither of them even break the top 50 when going by violent crime rate. Strange, considering how I always hear about how dangerous they are.
It's almost like the media is trying to push some sort of class/race divide in this country...
They’re not dangerous at all unless you wander directly into hobo enclaves late at night. I lived in Portland for 5 years and spent 18 months in Seattle. Only half sketchy situation ever was a junkie screaming at me because I was too close to his dog at a crosswalk. I walked away and he shut up.
Their residents are chronically online and they have gotten worse in the last 10 years. In general, SighSee posters will give an overly negative portrayal of US cities. People on here are just kinda pussies.
Yes, not sure about Seattle but Portland is totally safe to walk around at night. I wouldn't advise women to do it solo though
>I wouldn't advise women to do it solo though
That's true in most places, gentrified or not.
I literally closed down a bar in seattle a few months ago and walked over a mile to my car at 215am. Saw a couple cops. Everything well lit. Nothing remotely sketchy
I'm laughing at all the anons saying Portland is safe at night. Even as a male, it's not safe. During the day entire blocs are covered in homeless people and druggies. The police are nowhere to be seen until you leave Portland proper. I'm pretty sure they exist solely as a containment measure for the surrounding cities.
Depends on the area. I wouldn't go near Chinatown day or night but most of the East Side, Pearl, NW 23rd etc are fine night included
>most of East Side
I disagree with that, it's pretty bad. Nowhere near Chinatown bad though. Pearl District is weird with how inconsistently clean it is. Some blocs it looks amazing, then you turn a corner and everything looks like a disaster.
With Boston, mainly just avoid Roxbury, Dorchester and Mattapan. Maybe Chelsea and Everett. And they aren't even that bad compared to most black neighborhoods in post-Floyd crime surge.
>Don't go to the ghetto and you'll be fine
tbqh even then, this kind of thing is overstated. On the one hand, there's often not much of interest in these places, no harm following the advice and avoiding them. But odds are you'd be fine even going to the ghetto so long as you went during the daytime.
>Unless you're out cavorting in the ghetto at 3 o'clock in the morning, there's very little risk in visiting.
Right. Don't try to LIVE there, avoid airbnb's in bad neighborhoods and don't go looking for a fight. Stay in well-lit, well-populated areas at night. But it's not like you're going to catch a stray bullet just passing through.
Rural areas are tougher to assess I think. Most rural areas are super nice but it's still possible to stumble into a "townie bar" who might be unfriendly if you come off a bit too much like a snooty Eurogay.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/08/us/census-race-map.html
what these dudes said about boston. The Seaport, faneuil hall, the north end are all very safe and walkable. Cambridge is nice and all but a bit uptight, gay and expensive for me, but it has some nice places to eat.
I'm assuming you're sticking to the tourist areas. If that's the case you'll be absolutely fine. Also, I would personally swap Philly for NY if you're going for history.
Isn't Philadelpha ghetto as hell?
Parts of every major city in the world are ghetto as hell
Nonsense
Oh, ok. Name a global city that doesn't have a ghetto?
Wtf is a "global city"? You should globo go back to Redd!t.
Most if not all major cities in East Asia have nothing even remotely resembling the ghettos of cities like Baltimore or Philly
The ghettos found in other major cities in Europe and Asia are nothing compared to the straight up scary and dangerous slums found in the US. It's just not comparable.
Seoul
You are moronic.
Rio de Janeiro
Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth
That's misleading, you don't have inner-city racial ghettos, you have multi-generational poverty stricken rednecks in absurdly poor further-flung suburbs.
Maybe not a ghetto in the traditional sense, but not that far off and you certainly wouldn't want to walk around some of those meth-filled suburbs anymore than you'd want to walk through an inner-city ghetto in a US city.
Australia is a shithole
Everywhere in East Asia.
Yeah this. Amerimutts have been programmed to think there is absolutely nowhere better, safer or more ideal then the US so their natural instinct when lacking any knowledge or experience on the subject is to project and accuse the rest of the world to be worse than themselves when they're no different than Russia or Brazil.
>Everywhere in East Asia
Look up the definition of a ghetto before you say some dumbshit like this. You can move goalposts and say they're not as bad as American ghettos, but I promise you East Asia as ghettos.
>Isn't Philadelphia ghetto as hell
>Parts of every major city in the world are ghetto as hell
The original goalposts were in comparison to Philly
Thank you for agreeing east Asia does have ghettos. And slums. And all types of poverty. Frick SEA homosexuals.
You're incoherent. Are you talking about East Asia or SEA? SEA is poor shithole with slums that rival and sometimes SURPASS those of the US (tho not with respect to violence, typically). East Asia? There is not one neighborhood of ANY East Asian major city that comes close to a US ghetto, which WAS the original comparison
Before you decide to move anymore goal posts, Asia, as a whole, is not immune to ghettos. I'm saying they exist, you're saying they're "not as bad". Don't care. You lost.
>Compared to Philly
>No you cant just compare to US cities
>East Asia
>No but you have to consider Asia as a whole
I'm not the one moving goalposts, anon
Whatever geographic area you want to name next has ghettos. Just move on already.
Actual autism holy shit
Yeah, but I'm not wrong.
Name me one. I'll wait. Oh look at that sweety, you've written twelve replies and never named a single one. That's so sad kid. Maybe next time you should watch what you say when you speak to me mmmkay?
youre a moron, this thread is full of people warning OP to avoid the Black person & white trash infested cities of DC, NY and Philly .
>this thread is full of people warning OP to avoid the Black person & white trash infested cities of DC, NY and Philly .
Only rural morons that are scared of anyone with skin darker than a yellow onion are saying this.
People in this thread who actually live in those places, or have visited for extended periods of time will tell you they're perfectly safe.
delusional
No, I just live in the DC area and used to live in NYC for a few years and know you're a moron talking out of his ass.
You can absolutely visit NYC, Philly, and DC, though. Just don't wander too far outside the tourist/city center. I was in Detroit last week. Had a lot of fun exploring it and never felt sketchy. If I left the downtown/tourist area though, it would probably be a little more dangerous
Do people here still insist New York is dangerous? It's really pretty safe.
The tourist areas you will likely be visiting are going to be safe, but that said the police in many parts of America have decided not to do their jobs most of the time since 2020.
I've been to the "ghetto" in Osaka at night and I never once felt in danger. There's a big difference between the ghetto in an American city and other parts of the world.
Don't ride the bus in America if you can avoid it. I have never once ridden the bus outside of a major city (where taking public transit is normal) and not encountered dodgy characters. You'll probably be fine but you have better options.
Yes and even the white people there are extremely trashy. I dislike Pennsylvania in general.
south jersey/philly have to be some of the most dysgenic soil on the planet. truly scum of the earth people down there. Rest of pennsylvania is good though just rural shithole, but people are nice.
>t, north jersey
Heard Boston is cool but never got to go. DC is fine during day, but you don't want to be there after dark. Even the little old white ladies give you the stink eye in filthadelphia. New York is shit unless you like homosexuals groping you on the subway or meat heads ganging up on you cause one of their girls smiled at you. Pittsburgh is nice in late summer and the first month of the fall semester. The college girls are all out in the favorite sundresses showing off. If you can pull off a southern accent, you'll pull b***hes easily. Goes downhill fast come winter.
yes. one of the highest murder rates in the country.
that's incorrect
>Isn't Philadelpha ghetto as hell?
Philadelphia and Las Vegas are the only two american cities in which ive stepped in human shit on the streets.
>philly over nyc
Philly is an actually worse than detroit and chibongo these days for safety
American cities vary from safe to complete shitholes and also neighborhoods within places like DC or NYC go from extremely upscale and wealthy to Africa tier. This is unlike europe where a lot of cities are all more or less the same, its very obvious when you're in a bad part of an American city because it literally starts to look like you're in a 3rd world country whereas the nice parts are extremely opulent and fancy. If you aren't a complete idiot (australians are the worst about this imo) its pretty obvious when you've come into a shitty part of town in that the demographics and signage on businesses become a lot more... ethnic. Philadelphia, the Bronx and Baltimore are particularly bad and the areas of DC outside of the government areas, all the cities in NJ and parts of Queens and Brooklyn are pretty shitty.
>its pretty obvious when you've come into a shitty part of town in that the demographics and signage on businesses become a lot more... ethnic. Philadelphia, the Bronx and Baltimore are particularly bad and the areas of DC outside of the government areas, all the cities in NJ and parts of Queens and Brooklyn are pretty shitty.
Just say black and get it over with. Why beat around the bush like a liberal who is so constrained by political correctness that they can't call out for what it is. Avoid areas with a high concentration of blacks and you will be fine. It's not racism, just the facts. Check the crime stats.
>Just say black
Has nothing to do with skin color and everything to do with class.
White/Black/Latino/Native
If you're poor as frick and live in a poor shitty area, I'm going to avoid you, even if your area is full of poor white people, that's just as bad, if not worse than black people in some areas.
Except poorer white areas like Appalachia have significantly lower crime rates than minority majority areas. Explain that.
Crime goes unreported in those areas and beyond that there are just less people overall.
Get a bunch of poor inner-city whites and crime is aplenty.
Got a source to back up your claim in that last sentence? Didn't think so.
You are right except that blacks are still worse on average. Even middle class blacks commit more crime per capita than whites.
Again I agree with the practical point about paying more attention to class than race but you shouldn't pretend there are no racial differences
I lived in DC for a year and couldn't believe how much crime was in PG County which is a lot richer than anything you will see in West Virginia or Kentucky lmao
PG County isn't really "rich" though lol, compared to Montgomery or Howard.
PG
> The median income for a household in the county was $71,260 and the median income for a family was $82,580. Males had a median income of $49,471 versus $49,478 for females. The per capita income for the county was $31,215. About 5.0% of families and 7.9% of the population were below the poverty line, including 9.6% of those under age 18 and 6.7% of those age 65 or over
MoCo
> The median income for a household in the county was $93,373 and the median income for a family was $111,737. Males had a median income of $71,841 versus $55,431 for females. The per capita income for the county was $47,310. About 4.0% of families and 6.0% of the population were below the poverty line, including 7.2% of those under age 18 and 6.3% of those age 65 or over.
HoCo
> The median income for a household in the county was $103,273, and the median income for a family was $119,810. Males had a median income of $82,307 versus $59,128 for females. The per capita income for the county was $45,294. About 2.8% of families and 4.2% of the population were below the poverty line, including 4.6% of those under age 18 and 5.5% of those age 65 or over
Ok but I compared it to WV and KY, not other counties in the DMV so your point is irrelevant
>why are white rural counties that are poor have less crime than densely populated african american counties with more money?!
Wow it's almost like with more opportunity to commit crime, comes more crime, and just because making $50k in WV makes you well off but $50k in the DMV means you're living in the ghetto and doesn't mean you can compare the two as if it's the same cost of living.
Dedham, MA has a lower median household income, a very low crime rate and is not rural.
>PG County isn't really "rich" though lol, compared to Montgomery or Howard.
Why does that matter.
A white community with median household income of $71,260? You can pretty safely predict that its crime rate will be negligible.
> Prince George's County is the wealthiest African American-majority county in the United States
They're only wealthy comparatively, for the region overall they're still poor.
>that's just as bad, if not worse than black people in some areas.
Obviously you have never been to Baltimore or the South Bronx at night You can walk around a poor white trash area at night, but I dare you to go to those hoods, even during the day, with your lily white liberal ass. All talk, like you don't see skin color. It's fricking reality, black areas are more dangerous than any other. Stop deluding yourself.
There's a big difference. If you go into a poor Mexican neighborhood you see people coming and going to work. Walking their kids home. Selling food things from carts. Small businesses like shoe repair shops, fruit stands, bakeries. Guys working on an old car. Everyone is busy and doing something all the time.
Go into a black neighborhood and you see people sitting on the goddamn porch. All day. Not doing shit. No businesses or economic activity except check cashing and liquor stores.
>t. from L.A.
>Stop deluding yourself.
This, if blacks behaved like latinos the country would be a totally different place. As an aside, all the mexican mafia and ms-13 shit. They picked up all that behavior from living around black gangs. Latino culture didn't have a tribal gang element until they lived in US cities and brought that behavior back to their home countries when deported.
NTA but he's basically right.
Controlling for all other factors (including poverty), blacks are almost always the worst on any social measure. But it's liberal obsession equity bullshit and denying obvious cause-effect relationships forces the point to come up so often through the lens of race and winds up making everything worse instead of better. The majority of black people aren't criminals and most black neighborhoods won't look like a worldstar video most of the time. Meanwhile there are still plenty of dangerous non-black thieves, psychopaths, belligerents and meth heads to worry about especially in poverty-stricken areas.
The reason race appears so important is due to systemic effects. Eg if blacks have a 10% criminality rate while whites have a 1% criminality rate, cities with lots of blacks are going to have a lot more crime and spend a lot more resources dealing with the fallout than white cities.
Even if the 1% criminal whites are just as bad as the criminal blacks. Sheltered Americans (liberals mostly) don't want to believe any of this criminal behavior is genetic predisposition.
So, there are constant arguments over social policy in American politics because most people have blindfolds on.
I spent many nights skateboarding around DC at night with friends, going to see bands, barhopping, showing out of town guests the museums. DC is really fun, but the crime at night is no joke. There are neighborhoods you don't want to walk through.
During the day, it's perfectly safe to walk around any of the tourist areas of DC. At night, not so much. The nogs wake up and come outside around just after sunset. At night, you want to be in Georgetown or Old Town Alexandria. There are a ton of cool areas in DC to bar hop, but don't walk between them. Take an Uber or ride the Metro.
Lol when were you last in DC? a decade ago? Basically the entire northwest quarter of DC is safe 24/7, I just wouldn't want to walk around alone after 2-3am in the further flung sections, but the main bar areas are totally fine and if you live in northwest you'll regularly walk home safely at late night with no real worry.
Now southeast DC is another thing and I wouldn't recommend heading down there at night, and some areas not even during the day.
This.
I live about 15 minutes from D.C. in Northern Virginia. I'm in the city several times per week, usually to walk and visit museums. Unless you're out cavorting in the ghetto at 3 o'clock in the morning, there's very little risk in visiting.
(speaking of Southeast D.C., I drive through every so often to buy recreational weed--it's definitely impoverished, but I've never felt threatened just walking down the street)
The same goes for New York and other large cities. Anyone who says that New York is "dangerous" is a fricking chud who's afraid of their own shadow. Even if the city has its dangerous parts, crime rates have--with the odd exception--been below the national average for DECADES at this point. You can walk around most parts of the city at any time of night without having to worry.
In most cases--in New York, D.C., and so forth--nobody who isn't intent on going to the "hood" is going to end up in the hood. Chicago, though, is a somewhat different story. I actually like Chicago a lot--99% of the violence is in the same half-dozen nig-nog neighborhoods--but it's a lot easier to end up in the wrong neighborhood than it is elsewhere.
Thanks for the input Fed-kun
Crimes against tourists are probably lower than in Western European cities.
Don't go to the ghetto and you'll be fine. There's also not armies of scammers and thieves in every touristy area like in Europe (the costume people in Times Square probably being the most notable exception)
so much of DC has been gentrified that it's quite safe anywhere but the SE, and even there it's just folks sitting on their stoops who probably won't bother you
I think most cities are pretty gentrified here, with only a few major cities being more dangerous than others (like San Fransisco or St. Louis). Of course that really depends on where you in the cities. There are some more dangerous areas than others. I would just suggest to avoid any neighborhoods, especially at night, since that is usually where turf wars and crime is mostly the worst. If you start seeing houses or rundown apartments, you should go back the other way you came. Also just avoid walking around cities at night outside of densly populated areas (ie. lots of other people also walking around) unless you know the area well. The most likely encounters you'll get are people asking you for money, trying to sell you drugs or stolen merchandise, or car thefts. I would just use caution like you would for any city. I don't know much abojt the cities you have listed but I assume it'll be the same there too. Just use your street smarts and gut feelings, and you should be fine.
US cities tend to be less crowded than other world cities, so snatchers & pickpocketers have a tough time operating. Plus, only thugs carry lots of cash these days, so mugging isn't really a thing any more. Insolent Black behavior is the biggest "threat" you are likely to encounter, and it has become close to omnipresent in many cities. If you remain passive and avoid eye contact, they usually leave whitey alone. The street bums can be very unpredictable, but again, distance and passivity is your friend. "Not my business, not my problem" should be your reaction to seeing shit happening on the street. Also, having a bike or scooter definitely helps keep you apart from the vibrancy of the local ethnic cultures. On foot you are more vulnerable, especially if you are someone who reacts aggressively to disrespect or petty demands.
Why do Americans tolerate black crime so much?
put a crazy homeless nig threatening to murder people in a headlock on the NYC subway and you'll get hauled in on murder chargers yourself. arrest a crazy nig od'ing on fetanyl and he dies in custody and the entire country burns down for months.
They are an order of magnitude more dangerous than most European cities. For example, Houston, TX has ~10x more murders than Bucharest for their population. The good thing is that it's color coded: minimize interactions with non-staff black people. Avoid black people loitering and milling around during working hours. Avoid bars with largely black clientele. Additionally don't interact with the homeless under bridges and overpasses.
With that said, petty crime like purse snatching and scams like the nightclub scam where you get a surprisingly large bill and forced to pay up are pretty rare. Don't pay the squeegee boys either.
Because when our grandparents or great grandparents tried to do something about it, they were forced to tolerate it at bayonet point as a matter of government policy. So we became a semi-nomadic people, with each generation making the great trek in search of "affordable good school districts"
>So we became a semi-nomadic people, with each generation making the great trek in search of "affordable good school districts"
kek
It's the same as any 3rd world country, unfortunately. If someone approaches you with more than a passing greeting they're usually up to no good. Don't go with them, don't stop and talk, don't offer to buy something, just keep walking. Americans don't really interact with strangers out in town and you won't be acting abnormally if you just ignore them. If a place looks like its bad news, it probably is. If you go somewhere and everyone goes quiet, turn around and leave. The kind of shit that happens in europe though, like businesses trying to force you to pay for shit you didn't want, doesn't happen here. The *customer* is the one that's always right here. If you feel like you're being scammed just refuse to pay. You basically can't lose doing this. Pickpocket doesn't really happen here, its not a skill people develop when they're busy with basketball. Bracelet scams definitely don't happen here, their ass would get shot by someone.
Head on leave chud
It’s literally an economics issue. Poor people commit more crime. Many Blacks are poor, unfortunately
Triggered nog spotted. It's genetic, look up the warrior gene and the relation between low IQ and the propensity to commit violent crime.
Most likely just a delusional bubble leftoid. Had an argument with a leaf once where I asked him what he thought would happen if all the blacks in Detroit jumped the border and he said something about educating them about free healthcare and gun control and didn't seem to think crime would be a problem (before changing the subject to how racist it was for me to even talk this way).
>Socioeconomics made me blow the cashier's head off after he gave me the money
>even wealthy blacks commit more crime than poor white people.
I hate Black folk so much.
White guilt. Americans get off on feeling morally superior by letting blacks get away with crime because muh racism. It's this enabling behavior that makes America dangerous.
this is true. Kind of pathetic really. It's always the same college educated white people. It's their status symbol, something that separates them from poorer, Trump voting whites. Typical nimby liberals with BLM signs and rainbow flags suddenly become enraged when their property values are affected by low income housing moving in next door.
The thing about American cities is even lifelong Americans don't just wander into them. You either have friends who live there and take you directly to the good parts & away from bad areas, or you look it up and find which parts to avoid. Most of us don't even care about our cities outside of NYC because we know they're gigantic shitholes with a few good things scattered around. When we travel in the states, we do it for specific events or to see specific people, because the cities themselves aren't worth it
OP here. I've heard lots of bad stories about Greyhound buses. Let's say I wanted to take the bus from Boston to Montreal, how unbearable would it be on a scale from 1 to 10?
The other passengers are likely to be felons who just got out of jail, the homeless who will smell, and Black folks who blast ghetto music from their phone. The bus and toilet might be filthy and a lot of stations closed so you might be waiting outside in the freezing cold for the bus, but it won't be unsafe. They'll kick disruptive people off. I've rode on greyhound buses and they're ok if your trip is around 4 hours or less. It also matters where you're going. Boston to Montreal will be a different clientele than say St. Louis to Chicago.
They're mainly uses by criminals, drug addicts, and the homeless (no joke). You will feel very uncomfortable if the occupancy is more than like 50%. But the odds someone will frick with you are low. Just don't wear expensive clothing and don't be conspicuous. Don't chat with anyone in the Greyhound station, if someone asks to use your phone tell them no. It may sound scary but if you catch a bus with really low occupancy it can be a quiet, cheap, and comfy ride.
Oh and they're always late as frick. Expect delays
Take a train if at all possible, even if it's just coach, it's better than bus by a frickin mile.
And if you can afford it (or get a good deal) a roommette or bedroom on a longer trip is well worth the money.
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>24 hours
lol
I think I'd rather go from D.C. to Boston and then to NYC so I can take a direct train to Montreal from there at least.
Beware that Amtrak will sell you a "train" ticket but its actually a bus operated by Greyhound.
Their online booking also sucks. They won't show routes that have a more than a 1 hour layover for a train change even though the trains sometimes arrive an hour late.
It's not all that hard to figure out if you read up on the routes in question.
But yes, their website can use some work.
Also it will usually tell you when there is a bus connection.
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>Let's say I wanted to take the bus from Boston to Montreal, how unbearable would it be on a scale from 1 to 10?
Another vote for awful. The train will be far more pleasant.
I really wish there was an upscale, more expensive bus option for this inner northeast region. But there isn't, so far as I know.
What you could potentially do-- there looks like a Greyhound bus that leaves Boston at 7:00am and arrives in Albany at 10:20am. The Amtrak to Montreal leaves Albany at 11:40am and arrives in Montreal at 8:16pm. So you could suffer for 3 hours on the Greyhound, hope it won't be more than an hour late (which it should be at that time in the morning), then spend the remaining 8 hours on the more comfortable train.
The only people who take long distance buses are those who can’t afford to fly. It’s going to be full of low class people with poor hygiene
Why don't they just drive themselves? Road trips are kino
because they're so poor they can't afford a car.
OP should definitely take the bus. Great way to observe what the American underclass is like.
A good rule of thumb for DC is when traveling around by Metro (subway system), avoid the Green Line whenever possible.
Other than that, the touristy areas are fine.
>avoid the Green Line whenever possible.
The 4 or 5 stops in the city center are fine, but otherwise, yeah.
Planned go there many years. LA, New York and maybe the far south. Do you get the anti Black person kit after passport control? If not where do I get the gun, spray, empty iphone boxes etc? Do you rent it or can I keep it? Sorry for many questions but this is important to me in planning a fun vacation.
If you're not kidding, I think you could probably carry pepper spray or similar depending on the state you're in.
But no way would you be able to purchase a gun.
I took a trip to USA 2 months ago
>Boston, the best city i've been to in the USA extremely safe and surprisingly clean, closest to an EU city.
>New Haven, rough around the outskirts, nice in the centre of town. Yale Art Gallery was one of the most pleasant experiences I've had travelling.
>New York, not too dangerous but there's always someone dodgy around you.
>Washington, utter shithole from the bus journey in. We were by the port which was a bit rough, the actual tourist areas by the white house etc are nice and well maintained. I noticed towards the museums and congress it was much more hectic.
>Leesburg, smaller town USA because a friend lives here, lovely. Would 100% recommend finding a smaller place and going there for a day or 2.
>Washington, utter shithole from the bus journey in.
Lmao, you took a bus into the cheapest/worst part of the city and are complaining about how shit the city is.
If you had taken the train like a normal person you would've been in Union Station and just gone straight into northwest DC (the nice part of town). Or stayed in the central touristy area, either way you wouldn't have been in a rough part of town.
You probably didn't even save money by taking the bus vs taking the train.
I took a bus from NYC to Washington, we drove through an outskirts area for literally 10 minutes before arriving in Union Station. Then we got a taxi from there to our Airbnb, the area we drove through was nice, but there was just something dodgy in the city.
>as just something dodgy in the city.
Pretty sure that's just you.
I felt way less safe in Philly or NYC than DC.
If you said you felt unsafe in Balitmore, sure i'd believe you, even in the nicer parts of town you still worry a little, but in DC? I just don't buy it unless you're a paranoid baby.
The other anon is right and you are wrong. DC is a violent city that is having its worst crime year in decades. Over 250 homicides and 900 carjackings so far.
DCs crime stats are worse than NY (significantly so iirc). Philly is definitely a shithole tho
Sure, but like I said if you stay in the safe parts of DC it's 100% fine, i'd walk around after midnight no problem in north west.
If a european gets a ferry to your capital, they have to go through that once they are there. Nice.
>if you enter the city in the worse part of it, you then have to go through that bad part
yes, so enter from the northwest and don't be moronic?
Cars and trains both easily will enter the city from that side.
Also are there even ferries in DC? Where the hell would it connect to/from? The river isn't that large.
NTA but there are the water taxis that go from Georgetown to Alexandria to the Wharf and to National Harbor. No ferries for further destinations...
not safe at all, been to New york and Chicago as a foregner
full of Black folk, crackheads beggars and ugly prostitutes trying to suck you off for 2$
saw homless mfs shitting on each other and eating garbage
a guy collapsed on a street, nobody wanted to help him ( i tried to get closer but was beat by 2 homie thugs robbing him blind) Every 2nd night there is a fkn shootout
U cant go to a fkn ATM after it gets dark..or even anywhere
stores have all the ayles fkn chained up bcs fkn thieves
I visited USA 2 times, both times felt like i was in jail.... Anon dont go there you will get robbed, if you do decide to go, get a gun
>pic unrelated
Just avoid south East DC and when you go to New York don’t go to Harlem or South Jamaica Queens and you’ll be alright
As someone that has lived in each of these cities, you need to think about what's going on in these cities that might cause police to enforce laws. If your definition of "crime" is people asking you for money then you're shit out of luck. As someone else said, anything beyond a "hello" means they are trying to take advantage of you somehow, keep walking. I have not once in my life had someone chase me down and attack me and I am probably saying "No sorry" or "Excuse me" several times a week where I live. Anyway
>I wish I was armed
Baltimore, Philly
>Look out at night
DC
>Pretty safe tbh
NYC, Boston
Remember that these are cities with an infrastructure to upkeep, governed by a dedicated council. I would much sooner live and walk around in any of these places than Avon Park, FL where there is no tourism and therefore no reason to police anything (ask me how I know)
For the most part as long as you stay out of the hoods and stick to the tourist/white people areas you'll be fine.
I go to St Louis every year and outside of one drunken brawl a decade and a half ago, I've never had any problems.
You seek safety in a big American city in 2023? It's like seeking water in the desert, but here goes:
- San Diego (enjoy seeing H.O.T. do their work.)
- Miami (just don't go during Spring Break, or holidays)
- Jersey City (underrated gem)
goddamit i should move to boston
come to detroit
No American city is safe, not even the country. I stepped one foot past the border in Niagara Falls and a 50. cal bullet grazed my nuts!!!FACT!!!
I don't get the hate Philly has here. I spent two weeks there for work, stayed about 6-7 blocks north of the center in a former industrial turned ritzy Airbnb, ate $7 breakfastes served by cute Amish girls at readding terminal market, had $2.70 vodka shots at this dive bar that allowed smoking inside, literally smoked meth with this Black person that chatted me up outside this other bar I was smoking a cig outside of, and we spent that night with him showing me his favorite bars until he tried pressuring me to go to South Philly with him to frick some hookers and then I booked it. The city hall building in the center is incredible, and I made friends with people each time I went out drinking after work. Would recommend.
You sound like a degenerate, of course you don't mind Philly. Traffic is shit, no greenery whatsoever, no quiet places, all surrounding areas outside of Philly have (more) Black folk and they stare at you (and you eventually begin to pass ritzy libshit houses with their virtue signaling signs as you move to the north of Center City.), someone on Zillow knows what they got in an 80k burned down house in Kensington and worst of all? Philly smells like shit. This is verifiable with science. I actually agree with WEgays in regards to reducing emissions, but only in cities, which is SURPRISE, somewhere I don't want to be anyway. PA isn't my favorite state by a longshot, but air quality outside the NE corridor is reason enough to leave and shit talk Filthadelphia.
OP, the easiest answer to your question is more white people, more safe in the USA. Not the be all end all formula, but covers most of the guessing needed. Last I've been to D.C., it's safe if you stay around the museums and government buildings, Boston seems mostly ok, wouldn't bother with actually traversing NYC on foot. Maybe just exploring New England would be better than visiting another city in the northeast, I wouldn't recommend anything in Philly or Baltimore for long term stays. NJ beaches are a better choice than visiting these cities and NJ is overcrowded these days too.
>How safe are big American cities?
They are overwhelmingly dangerous. There are some exceptions of course, but it's not the norm. I wouldn't go into any without conceal carrying. If you are a foreigner I HIGHLY suggest doing your research on crime stats and avoiding the bad neighborhoods and don't go out wandering late at night.
The most dangerous things you can do in DC are driving a BMW, Kia, Hyundai, or Honda with your doors unlocked or wearing a Canada Goose jacket. You are far more likely to get carjacked than be the victim of some violent crime while just walking around. Stabbings, rapes, and random murders are rare, and the killings that do happen are 95% between individuals who knew one another before the killing occurred.
Generally, the places to avoid in DC are east of the Anacostia River. Those are the most dangerous neighborhoods in terms of violent crime, the most impoverished, etc. The North West, South West, and large portions of the North East quadrants of the city are all fine.
DC is a great city to visit, especially in April and May. It is easy to fill a 5-day itinerary. Give yourself a generous budget for eating out. Restaurants here are expensive, but DC has some of the best in the entire country. If you're willing to travel for food, Rockville and Falls Church have excellent authentic Asian food for lower prices. DC has several newly built districts that are pleasant to visit and feel very clean - the Wharf, Union Market, Navy Yard, and 14th Street NW are all good nightlife spots. Georgetown is mid IMO. DuPont is pretty, and the farmers market is fun, but it's fallen off in terms of nightlife.
You will be acutely aware that DC is two cities in one. The city that the historically black residents live in is visible to you, but largely inaccessible to whites. Much of the city's true nature, its roots and spirit as it were, are oriented in Black culture. Don't be afraid of that fact, but just know that DC means many things to different people. Embrace it, go to a jazz bar or a club, get brunch with the DC gays, dine family style with the Vietnamese and Korean refugees. If you think DC is only museums, monuments, and Joe sleeping at the wheel, then you will be missing out.