I have 60k USD in savings
Which country could I realistically NEET in for 10+ years without living like a thirdie?
I have 60k USD in savings. Which country could I realistically NEET in for 10+ years without living like a thirdie?
I have 60k USD in savings
Which country could I realistically NEET in for 10+ years without living like a thirdie?
>I have 60k USD in savings
Which country could I realistically NEET in for 10+ years without living like a thirdie?
Realistically? Just about nowhere. $6K/year is thirdie-level money, livable comfortably only in thirdie settings.
But let’s go for a SighSee favorite and run some estimates for Thailand:
>Visa
Your only realistic long-term stay option at the moment is the five-year, basically no-strings-attached Elite visa. This will cost you approximately $20,000. There’s a good chance that this program will be discontinued any minute now, as they came up with a more restrictive, more expensive ten-year visa (visa itself isn’t so expensive but it’s got net worth and income requirements attached that you can not meet). So by the time your first five years are up there may be no renewal option. But let’s budget for $4000/year.
>Housing
It will vary but you’re probably going to wind up spending around $200/mo on rent, utilities, internet. This will get you a small student or lower-middle-class style apartment. So, not thirdie in that you won’t have a corrugated iron roof or a shared squat toilet.
>Food
Eating basics and avoiding comparatively overpriced things like imported foods and alcohol, you can eat well for $5/day. You won’t impress a date, but you will be adequately nourished, and most of it tastes pretty good if you like Thai food. Sometimes you’ll spend less, sometimes more. But let’s assume a baseline of $1825/year.
>Transportation, entertainment, et cetera
This is going to vary enormously depending on where you live and lifestyle choices. But it will cost something.
So adding up just survival basics, you could get by in moderate comfort in Thailand for something starting around $8225 annually. So your sixty grand might last a little over seven years, assuming no major medical expenses, little or no international travel, or emergencies.
In practice it probably won’t last so long. But it offers a ballpark.
why would you spend 4k/year on a visa when you can just move around on tourist visas and pay nothing
>why would you spend 4k/year on a visa when you can just move around on tourist visas and pay nothing
Tourist visas aren’t free; do you mean visa exemptions? Those require a flight out of and back into the country (an expense), and they get cut off sooner or later. The law is actually a little vague on this (it states that most visitors are entitled to do it twice a year), and enforcement is and has always been sporadic and arbitrary, but it’s very common practice to get a black mark in your passport the third time around. People trying to do this indefinitely get refused entry every day. The fun part is that you never know when it’s going to happen!
It’s also hard to sign leases without a visa giving you permission to stay long-term.
There are other workarounds that are somewhat more effective—for now, at least, some language schools are still offering year-long visas if you attend a few hours off Thai lessons every week. But the authorities have hated this for a long time, most recently because a bunch of Chinese gangsters who were later arrested and deported got in that way.
Oh, and the $4K/year isn’t actually accurate—you pay the $20K all at once. But once you do, you are legally entitled to stay for five years, unlike dodgy language students and the undocumented trying to bounce back in over and over again on visa exemptions.
Couldn't anon just get a TEFL and make $1000 a month teaching English to buck tooth tan jungle kids?
>Couldn't anon just get a TEFL and make $1000 a month teaching English to buck tooth tan jungle kids?
Maybe, but Anon said he wanted to NEET. And he needs a degree and a job offer, which he may or may not have. The lowest-end ESOL jobs (the least selective, easiest to get) are also not guaranteed to offer work permits or proper visas, and Thailand loves deporting unqualified English teachers for working illegally. Happens at least twice per decade, en masse.
But arguably most important, OP (who, as usual, may be long gone by now) hasn’t expressed an interest in living in Thailand. I just used it as an example because it’s popular here and I have lived there, so I know it well.
Based summary about Thailand.
Higher budget is needed. Philippines will(hopefully)be about the same as Thailand soon. Guess 60K only get you to a random African country or Venezuela. Surely you could enjoy many countries as a tourist. But to live there for 10 years is a big difference.
Your home country unironically. especially your home town
get a mobile home.
there is a 40 year old neet in Kenya his name is Ryan boundless who lives in Kenya. He hires people 1$ a day to get groceries and other things.
he was quite popular many years ago but he delisted most of his videos behind a paywall for patreon
ryan is an absolute homosexual. he was in japan during the best years for engrish teaching and he couldn't cut it. the years where you could show up hungover every day and still get 4k a month easily.
60k doens't last long bro
in SEA average rent will be about 3500 USD a year.
food is cheap.
but then you have other unseen expenses.
what if you get into trouble? you never know
The Bitcoin halving is in May. You can at least 3x that 60k in Bitcoin or 10x or more in altcoins. Do yourself a favour and ask SighSee how to triple your money to live somewhere for 30 years
lmfao
>Do yourself a favour and ask SighSee
High quality SighSee moronation right here
Also, the only country in SEA you can get by on with $6k per year is Indonesia. Go to the islands nobody goes to. I'm not going to name them because I love them because nobody goes to them.you can comfortably spend $10 per day in some places
Let's get some cross pollination in here
Or you could just keep off-topic threads where they belong.
I'm trying to help out an anon anon
Fricking topic Nazi
Assuming you put 40k of it into stocks, and the stock market grows at about 7% a year, you'd have 2.8k passive income per year
Using that plus ~4k of the other 20k per year while moving around South America, or the Balkans, or Central Asia, or Southeast Asia, is doable. Then once the initial 20k is gone (at 5 years) you can dip into the 40k for 8k per year.
It's probably worth it in the first year to travel to a few regions and see what works - definitely do not want to accidentally end yourself up spending 10 years in Turkmenistan or a cartel-infested shithole in South America
>boomer math
>literally free money and reliable
pick 2
>reliable
>reliable
>reliable
Why is this the default response to anyone talking about stocks? If you really want reliability then put it in the fricking bond market where it's currently a guaranteed ~4-5%
Brother in christ he's trying to live off of $60k for 10 years, he doesn't need reliability, he needs good luck
i was just making a joke about finance boomers obsessed and dependent on debt-based up-only economies
You don't want to burn through that just chilling out. It's enough that you can put the money to work earning more money. Keep working and adding to it. There's absolutely no place in the world that has running water where you can live off of that for 10 years.
Indonesia probably
Corruption deluxe, a religious view that a OP maybe would dislike. Even Indonesia get more and more value = higher prices, all due to a Cancel culture towards CCP wich I support very much. Lastly, communications, burocrazy and travel is 40 years behind. Nice country though.
>temporary NEET
>60k USD
>10+ years
nowhere in this planet,dude. Maybe for five years in Argentina
I lived as a NEET for two whole years in America with a little over $20,000 (so about $10,000 a year) AND I traveled to Europe for a month twice. Anyone saying this is impossible in a third world country is moronic. You just have to stay put and never spend a penny you can avoid spending and you're good. That means never see doctors, don't own a car, never eat out. Well maybe you can do these things in a third world country but not in America.
Did a classic backpacking thing 1996 around Asia. Cheap, dirty and lots of fun. But to live 10years Iike that when prices rised alot 2023, not only by count up by years, will be a miserable life.
Nowhere
You can't just live in a country unless you get married, start a business or something like that (buy a property). If you overstay you will be illegal and life won't be easy, without having papers you cannot rent an apt or get utilities. Your only option is short-term rent (as in airbnb) and you will pay a lot for that. Your money will evaporate. In your own country, you at least are legal and should be able to rent a cheap apt in some shithole state.
I would bet my money on somewhere in Africa, depends on your climate likings maybe unironically somewhere in RSA? You'd have to aim for some small towns, but maybe they aren't too bad if you live there with money. Eventually unironically Venezuela or Ecuador.