I recently went Albania and was surprised at the amount of immigrants. It really took me out of the immersion.

I recently went Albania and was surprised at the amount of immigrants. It really took me out of the immersion.

Next time I want to have an untouched European holiday. Let me know if my options are good.

Bosnia
Serbia
Moldova
Belarus

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did you mistake the local people who were mongrelized by their Turkic overlords for immigrants?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bosnians are whiter than serbs

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bold to assume I wasn't talking about all Balkan dwellers.

        I don't want to have to go to remote areas, it won't be a long trip. I've been to capitals and had good experiences, obviously you'll probably see a McDonald's and a couple of young boys who think they're rappers but you still feel like you're way out of your ordinary life and in a land very particular of its natives. And every 10 minutes won't see people loitering around who are interchangeable with Paris, London, new York.

        [...]
        Don't know why you assume I haven't been to some remote places you can only get around knowing the essentials of the language.

        I'm specifically talking about Europe for this trip. I know which are the interesting destinations in other parts of the world.

        I'm not talking about remote areas, I'm talking about anywhere more than a couple km from the nation's top world heritage sites.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          If a capital has been shitted up the effects spill miles out. Do you even travel?

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well I'm exaggerating because I was very annoyed, there were a good few. Combined you'd spot about 11 a day.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >11 a day
      What an oddly specific number. Anyways, I found the V4 nations pretty nice and migrant free, could have been a result of COVID restrictions though, I was there 1-3 years ago.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I messed up limiting it to classifying them as immigrants, I'm sure half of them could have been on holiday too. I'd imagine places like Hungary would see a mix of people from everywhere, especially the obligate druk English.

        I'm pretty much looking for somewhere comfy that doesn't remind me of the west every minute. Bonus for no Taco, sushi and H&M on every side of the streets.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Depends what kind of places you visit. If you visit the top tourist hotspots in Budapest or Prague, of course you will be reminded of the West. If you get even a little off the beaten path in any of these places, you will likely find what you want. Wroclaw, for example was pretty comfy and I don't think anywhere in Slovakia feels like America 2 (though if you stumble upon a gypsy nest, that is its own brand of bad).

          As for Belarus and Russia, I'm not even sure going would be wise or possible right now depending on your citizenship. I haven't been in a while though, so I can't give you any in-date opinion.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't want to have to go to remote areas, it won't be a long trip. I've been to capitals and had good experiences, obviously you'll probably see a McDonald's and a couple of young boys who think they're rappers but you still feel like you're way out of your ordinary life and in a land very particular of its natives. And every 10 minutes won't see people loitering around who are interchangeable with Paris, London, new York.

            >Bonus for no Taco, sushi and H&M on every side of the streets.
            You would have had to leave the 15 km radius of the airport for that. You got what you asked for. Next time
            [...]
            >get even a little off the beaten path in any of these places
            I wonder if you dare to even do that, or if you will shit your pants when you realize you will have to speak the local language.

            Don't know why you assume I haven't been to some remote places you can only get around knowing the essentials of the language.

            I'm specifically talking about Europe for this trip. I know which are the interesting destinations in other parts of the world.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Bonus for no Taco, sushi and H&M on every side of the streets.
          You would have had to leave the 15 km radius of the airport for that. You got what you asked for. Next time

          Depends what kind of places you visit. If you visit the top tourist hotspots in Budapest or Prague, of course you will be reminded of the West. If you get even a little off the beaten path in any of these places, you will likely find what you want. Wroclaw, for example was pretty comfy and I don't think anywhere in Slovakia feels like America 2 (though if you stumble upon a gypsy nest, that is its own brand of bad).

          As for Belarus and Russia, I'm not even sure going would be wise or possible right now depending on your citizenship. I haven't been in a while though, so I can't give you any in-date opinion.

          >get even a little off the beaten path in any of these places
          I wonder if you dare to even do that, or if you will shit your pants when you realize you will have to speak the local language.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    North Korea is pretty immigrant-free.

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who would be desperate enough to emigrate to Albania?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's what I don't get, I've come to the conclusion that Africans don't strategically choose to maximise chances of success. They just feel like that have to be any and everywhere just because they can. Go to Albania to hand around some side streets and make no money, good idea. Even if they were setting up some organised crime I'd have more respect for them, I could see the insensitive.

      And why does every country allow this? That's?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Albania, as shitty as it is, is better than anywhere in Africa.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Let's talk about Moldova, anyone actually been? It has to be a interesting place, I'm hoping it's not just Romania part 2.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Romania part 2
      It's Romania with less gypsies in their capital

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        So not worth it?

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Serbia
    >immigrants
    When I was in Belgrade a few months ago I saw like 20-30 migrants getting rounded up by the cops in a park by the bus station. They were all middle eastern or indian looking, didn't see any africans.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good job to them, keeping their country clean. I salute.

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I went for a week earlier this year, saw basically no immigrants in Tirana, or the surrounding areas. It had a fairly ‘Greek’ feel which is to be expected. Food was top tier, weather was nice, castles and museums were very interesting. Great exchange from the LEK to GBP. Would recommend!

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Where did you eat? I found most places to be poor, but if you know where to go you can find nice food.

      Did you go to Bunk Art 1? I loved it. I wish I was still over there, such a great country. What else did you do?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >but if you know where to go you can find nice food

        Any personal recommendations?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ada is good, in Tirana. Nice atmosphere too and a little kitten that hops around under the tables outside.

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