>$800-900 for 1 month airbnb >$1000 for airfare >$1000 for food, a couple day trips, and a little fun
it's doable. with that budget, I'd just skip Tokyo altogether and make a base in Osaka for a month
yeah, especially in Osaka. Don't expect anything really nice or in the center, but you could easily find a private one bed+bath+mini kitchen for that within walking distance of the main strip. even cheaper if you book a room instead of a private apartment, but then you are really poverty-tier
this is bait
you could get by on 3k a month. you could also spend 7k in two weeks if you want.
don't listen to these people OP, they're trying to troll you so you show up there with less money than you actually need and make you have a horrible time.
Think I used about 10k USD on my last 2 week trip there.
That was with a lot of travel within Japan and staying at decent hotels, also eating out every day, and partying every other day.
It's a lot cheaper than doing the same here in Norway, that's for certain.
It's real, japan is only expensive if you go to the center of the cities, the further you go the cheaper it gets, you don't even have to leave tokyo to find apartments in the 30,000 yen range(about $200 usd)
Yeah if you're really cheap you can stay in Chiba and just commute to Tokyo (30 min train ride). Chick I know has a 2 bedroom apartment out there for $400 a month. American city I live in you have to be on welfare to get even close to that cheap of housing.
Cost of living was like a third cheaper though except for luxury goods like electronics (including their own) and imported goods.
Weren't they at the forefront of technology in the 80s must've been lightning in a bottle, why weren't they able to replicate that success?
What made that generation burst with enthusiasm, creativity, and passion?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I dont think the issue was something related to Japan (could be wrong) but mostly because the US and the rest of world decided to be reliant on cheap shit from China.
3 months ago
Anonymous
This. Same thing happened with cars too, just as American cars started to turn to shit, Japanese cars were pumping out higher quality for equal or less than the price of US cars.
American 80s cars were still kino but things started to go downhill in the 90s, which is especially evident by the Ford Taurus being overshadowed by the Toyota Camry.
>Country doesn't have israelites so no one introduces interest to their financial system >Economy remains stable for decades
You morons realise the cost of things there has also stayed the same right so this isn't the shocker you think it is
I went to Japan in 2019 for a little over a week and I never spent more than $3000. And that was when the yen wasn't dogshit like it is now. If you haven't been to Japan, maybe shut the frick up.
Save up another 3-4k and do it then. Why tf do you want to be anxious and scraping pennies?
It cost me 3k to travel Japan including all the area from Fukushima to Kagoshima in 2019 but things are more expensive since then.
Everyone's talking about one month on here so I thought it was for a month. Anyways, you want to oversave so you don't have to record every transaction you make or end up a begpacker whoring yourself on the roadside.
My costs for a trip in March currently look like this >183,853 yen for 21 days in hotels (3* standard, all near to train stations) >~£600 flights (the flights are £1200 but that is uk->japan->korea->uk, so since half my time is in japan I will only assign half the cost. I am sure you can get cheaper flights than that for US to Japan anyway) >~£400 on shinkansen (one way form Tokyo to Fukuoka)
Converted, that is around 2500 usd before covering any spending. You can downgrade from hotels to hostels, you can take a cheaper alternative to shinkansen, you can go during a less busy month, even 3 weeks is a quite maximalist for just a holiday. Japan is not an expensive country. For spending it would be able half the daily cost of a trip in western Europe
Whats so cool in Tokyo you wont find in other cities?
Arcades, clubs you will find in many other cities, prostitutes too, shrines you will find in SEA for cheaper.
I dont understand whats so special about it?
depends entirely on how long you plan to be there.
if its something like 10-14 days in tokyo, staying at a business hotel, you should be good with 3k usd. it never hurts to bring more just in case though. also in this case, just use your card and withdraw at the conbini.
Get the cheapest flights possible, then you can spend a month comfortably if you stay in one place and get a discount (Airbnb) with cash to spare. If you want to move around a lot, you can still do 2 weeks easy.
This will be unpopular with a lot of the gays on here but I wouldn’t go near Tokyo with anything less than 10k. Japan is a first world country and priced like one.
For a 2 week trip you’re looking at 1600 in airfare alone. That’s half your budget right there. Then a reasonable accommodation in a non-shit area is like 100 bucks minimum per night. Your whole budget is gone after flight and hotel.
You can’t travel much by train, drink, buy souvenirs, try interesting food, shop, etc. you’ll probably have to skip meals and will end up meandering around Tokyo with nothing to do.
>For a 2 week trip you’re looking at 1600 in airfare alone. That’s half your budget right there. Then a reasonable accommodation in a non-shit area is like 100 bucks minimum per night. Your whole budget is gone after flight and hotel.
This is becoming more of the norm unfortunately. But if you look around and wait for sales, you can definitely find way more affordable rates. I bought tickets to Japan for this year for $1600 CAD, so that's about $1200 USD. That would leave $1800 for accommodations and food, which is still plenty.
Not sure why you think you'd need 10K, and honestly would love to hear how you got that number.
1600 airfare
1500 lodging
1000 transport (rail pass, subways)
1000 food
1000 entertainment
1000 on cool stuff, clothes, sword, figures
500 for gifts for friends and family
This is if I was doing it frugally. Tokyo is a great city with world class restaurants. You don’t sit in a world class restaurant and have a wagyu chateaubriand for less than 300 bucks.
Are you trying to frick in Japan? Get prepared to pay even more.
I definitely get pretty close to $3000 USD, and maybe in one or 2 instances I go past it, but $10K is pretty ridiculous
>1600 airfare >1500 lodging
Again, becoming the norm but can be avoided if you search around for deals and sales. And it terms of lodging, location and quality of room are an important factor to consider as well. You can still find rooms easily under $100.
>1000 transport (rail pass, subways)
Not even close, especially if you're basing your prices based on Tokyo. Even if you were to buy the current 7 week JR rail pass, you'd probably only end up paying up to $600? But if you're only really planning on going to Osaka/Kyoto, then the rail pass isn't necessary and then you're looking near the $350 mark.
>1000 food
That really depends on what you're looking for. I'd say meals average around $20 per (breakfasts are usually cheaper, dinners can be a little more expensive). I totally get wanting to splurge on a few meals here and there, but $1000 for food alone is more than plenty.
>1000 entertainment
This really depends on what your itinerary is. Entry for temples and shrines are only a few bucks when needed, other attractions like the Sky Tree or Team Labs is like between $20-$40? And a ticket to either Tokyo Disneyland or Disney Sea is still under $100.
>1000 on cool stuff, clothes, sword, figures >500 for gifts for friends and family
Again, this really depends on the individual. I only buy small trinkets and maybe some manga, but for someone who may be going to Japan for the first possible only time I get wanting to splurge a bit more than what I would.
Family don't really ask for much whenever I go to Japan (usually food related stuff), and I only buy a few boxes of "omiyage" you'd typically find at the airport for friends and for work. I probably don't even pay up to $200 for gifts.
As for adult entertainment, I have no experience there so there's nothing to share regarding my thoughts on budgeting for it.
>$10k is ridiculous
lolno >airfare
September trip for me is $1400. >you can find rooms easily under $100
You can, and frankly I don't give much of a shit for rooms, I'm only in them to shower and leave, and crash for the night anyway. That being said, no way I don't take advantage of multiple ryokans while in Japan and those are going to get pricey. I'll play ball and call it $1500 for a two week stay, including ryokans and budget elsewhere. >transport >osaka and kyoto dont need the pass
But I'm going to need a car rental to travel through Gifu. $350 for the megacities + $40/day + insurance/day, probably around 800 total tbh. >$1000 for food is more than plenty
It's not about plenty, he's talking about fine dining. Personally, I could spend far more than a grand on food in two weeks. I easily spend $700/mo on food for myself at home and that's just me cooking. Going out for high quality meals can easily hit $1500-2k and you'd be a moron not to take advantage of the most michelin star restaurants in the world. >shrines dont cost much
That's tourism, not entertainment. Shows, bars, clubs, that's gonna cost you. If you're anything like me and have good taste in booze, junmai daiginjo sake gets expensive quick. A meh bottle of it goes for around $75 in my state alone, a great bottle in Japan will probably be triple digits and I'm certainly having many of them. Same with Japanese Whiskey. I'll probably spend another $800-1500 here. >souveniers
Waste of money imo, an experience and a memory is worth more than a bullshit trinket.
My own budget for a pretty higher end trip costs $6100-$7400 depending on how much I realistically blow on food, drink and partying.
You can do a cheap trip, but it's really not insane to splurge $10k on a 2 week stay if you want a truly high end experience, and I guarantee you that the finer things in life are definitely a far better memory than 7-11 take out meals.
>a time machine that can take you back to 2023
it's so close, it must be doable.
Sorry, time travel is only possible moving into tomorrow.
>>$10k is ridiculous >lolno
For the average tourist? That's a definite "LOL yes"
>September trip for me is $1400.
USD? I managed to get tickets for October at roughly $1,190 USD
>You can, and frankly I don't give much of a shit for rooms, I'm only in them to shower and leave, and crash for the night anyway.
I absolutely have the same mindset regarding rooms; I barely care about the quality as long as it's comfortable enough to relax and sleep in. Sadly it is getting far more difficult to find a decent place for under a $100 per night, but it is still possible
>But I'm going to need a car rental to travel through Gifu. $350 for the megacities + $40/day + insurance/day, probably around 800 total tbh.
Sure, but the average tourist doesn't. And of course this depends on itinerary but $40 per day for transport is rather high as well, even if you were to include shinkansen trips into the equation
>It's not about plenty, he's talking about fine dining
It's fine if you want to take advantage of all of the michelin star restaurants in Japan, but the initial question was if you'd be able to travel around on a budget and the answer is a comfortable "yes".
>That's tourism, not entertainment.
For the sake of this discussion/break down it's in the same category. But yes the stuff you listed would be pricey, which is exactly why budgeting for this greatly depends on the individual
>Waste of money imo, an experience and a memory is worth more than a bullshit trinket.
Meh, I disagree to a certain extent. Trinkets can be useful as a memory cue, something you can look back on to help reminisce about the trip
>You can do a cheap trip, but it's really not insane to splurge $10k on a 2 week stay if you want a truly high end experience
If we're talking on a high end experience then I totally get it, and I'd agree that 10K would be "frugal" in that regard. But it is still a "ridiculous" amount to suggest for the average tourist is all I'm saying
>You can still find rooms easily under $100.
this is not really my experience. you are not staying in a hotel in, say, shinjuku with a western sized bed for under 250 USD a night. it's just not happening. maybe if you want to stay out in ueno or something you can pull that off, but i feel like that's a sacrifice in convenience and you're cucked for things to do after trains shut down
>Even if you were to buy the current 7 week JR rail pass, you'd probably only end up paying up to $600?
you're forgetting that if you're trying to ride the subway your JR pass isn't going to work. and i'm basing my figure off the 14 day pass because you are moronic if you travel to japan from the West for only 7 days. by the time you're done with jetlag it's already time to leave.
>$1000 for food alone is more than plenty
if you're sticking to mostly 7/11 food then yeah you can keep food under 1k but you are really cucking yourself out of a vital experience if you're not visiting high end restaurants in a place like tokyo.
>This really depends on what your itinerary is
Yes, obviously but again it's a waste to travel all the way to japan if you're just going to meander through museums. unexpected events pop up in tokyo all the time and it's one of the best parts about being in the city.
>this is not really my experience. you are not staying in a hotel in, say, shinjuku with a western sized bed for under 250 USD
Last I went, I paid under 150 USD for a superior room with 2 queen sized beds.
I don't know how you even manage to get such shitty deals. >$1000 for food alone is more than plenty
Agree with you on that one, I probably used roughly 5k on food and drinks for 2 weeks.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You can still find rooms easily under $100.
this is not really my experience. you are not staying in a hotel in, say, shinjuku with a western sized bed for under 250 USD a night. it's just not happening. maybe if you want to stay out in ueno or something you can pull that off, but i feel like that's a sacrifice in convenience and you're cucked for things to do after trains shut down
>Even if you were to buy the current 7 week JR rail pass, you'd probably only end up paying up to $600?
you're forgetting that if you're trying to ride the subway your JR pass isn't going to work. and i'm basing my figure off the 14 day pass because you are moronic if you travel to japan from the West for only 7 days. by the time you're done with jetlag it's already time to leave.
>$1000 for food alone is more than plenty
if you're sticking to mostly 7/11 food then yeah you can keep food under 1k but you are really cucking yourself out of a vital experience if you're not visiting high end restaurants in a place like tokyo.
>This really depends on what your itinerary is
Yes, obviously but again it's a waste to travel all the way to japan if you're just going to meander through museums. unexpected events pop up in tokyo all the time and it's one of the best parts about being in the city.
>hurdur you can dine for less than 100 bucks/day in 7/11 >can get superb ramen for 4-5dol, just check for recommendation on jap sites >numerous restaurants serving perfect dishes for 10dol per portion maximum
Japan is king when it comes to good food/service and you can find 8-9/10 meals almost everywhere for cheap price.
I dunno what you two been smoking, but im tierd of poser posh people that think big dollar will get you best meal. You are literaly ignorant tier boomer that goes on art shows and buys whatever pricy thing without any knowledge about said item.
I know, micheli and a lot of other high end restaurants is an expirience and sure, its nice to do it once in a while, but in the end, its like with wine. You can get awsome stuff for 40 bucks per bottle, but hey there are 400 ones to, does it mean they are better? Nope, just a few of them and theyre like 5% tastier if you really have a great tastebuds and can even feel that shit, which you dont.
Spend your money however you want but dont trash this board with ignorant shit if you dont know what you write about.
3 months ago
Anonymous
i think if you were going to do a michelin restaurant, you'd do it in tokyo while on vacation, dude. that's what we are talking about.
it's a real waste if you're going to a world class city like tokyo with world class restaurants and only sticking to 7/11. if you're on a budget i don't know why you wouldn't just go to a more budget-friendly place like thailand. they have 7/11's in thailand too.
going to japan for 7/11 and family mart is just not a wise use of money or time.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Best michelin star in my expirience are the ones that are not glimmer posh loking joints that serves you a starter for 100dol, the best ones are small, not overcrowded places that are way of the beaten path. Check some of the less famous (not "star" restaurants that charge you in hundreds only becaus of michelin star). I didnt go to any michelin in tokyo but i was in one in Sing and Nz, they also charged like 15-20dol per meal.
Tokyo as a "world class" city that offers (like i mentioned) 8-9/10 star food expirience with the 10-20bucks range, all you have to do is a basic knolegde and reaserch.
Writing that spending less then 100dol per day on meals is literal 7/11 is stupid as shit.
You can eat superb dishes for less than 10dol in japan if you know where to look for them, spending 100dol might get you better chances of great meal if you dont know shit about food/reaserching restaurants/joints.
Fricking people treating michelin like its a disneyland, do you also think that watching any other movies than the ones that won the oscar is pleb tier?
3 months ago
Anonymous
yeah sorry dude but most people don't have time to find diamonds in the rough in their 2 weeks in japan. you stick to stuff that you know is good.
and the majority of michelin places in japan have very understated aesthetics and are tucked away and often difficult to find
3 months ago
Anonymous
>you stick to stuff that you know is good. >it need tobe 100dol per meal or its a bust. >its to difficult to make any reaserch by myself
Yeah mate, its still ignorant attitude, I have no problem with people spending their money on whatever they want but please dont trash this board with untrue shit like "japan is not budget friendly" foodwise. Its just shows how small your knowledge is on this topic really is. You can easy last with less than 10dol per day if you do 7/11 "diet", but between this and "less than 100dol" is giant space that offers so much more than what you wrote. Reserching stuff is no different than checking adress of michelin star restaurants, you basicly cuck yourself out of 99% of other good options because of your own accord. Being lazy about your travelplan is one thing and spewing your bullcrap take on the subject is another.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I wouldn't really call it lazy to go for a michelin place. it's not really easy to get a seat at one of these places. in fact, it's really hard and you need to reserve for months in advance and often set down a deposit.
on the other hand, for a tourist who speaks no japanese and has no local guide, finding some hole in the wall frequented by locals that's of solid quality is nigh impossible and not an intelligent use of time. i would rather just hop on a michelin guide and spend the extra money.
also keep in mind that a lot of these popular holes in the wall, think onigiri bongo in tokyo, have wacky wait times and still cost 50 dollars a meal for two people. just something to think about.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Its still lazy, you just project that it will take you more time than booking a michelin restaurant. You still write about posh places with big lines that overcharge. Thing is, there are numerous restaurants, bars and joints that offer terrific food from 10-25dol and sure some of them got lines but it usualy dont take more than 15min to get a seat. You assume many things without any expirience of your own, thats what I get from your post. Maybe try for once eat in a recommended place thats not +50dol (or michelin) and then form an opinion thats not based on your assumptions, i know its not for everyone but actualy finding and eating in those places is rewarding.
Do it at least once and than we may speak about how much afordable and great Japan restaurant food can be.
>"if you're not visiting high end restaurants in a place like tokyo."
Why the frick would you want to go eat at fine dining? The best food in Japan are the really cheap hidden in the corner shops or food stalls, especially if you're gonna go Osaka.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>The best food in Japan are the really cheap hidden in the corner shops or food stalls
You can believe this if you want, but it's just not true.
Why do you need a good room? All you need is a nice bed and a bathroom. Do you people seriously go to a new country and spend more than an hour in your hotels in the morning? I get an airbnb or a small room in Japan for just 20-30 bucks a night. It can be even cheaper if you don't mind shared bathrooms.
>you're forgetting that if you're trying to ride the subway your JR pass isn't going to work. and i'm basing my figure off the 14 day pass because you are moronic if you travel to japan from the West for only 7 days. by the time you're done with jetlag it's already time to leave.
Your JR pass works in the subway and is the best way to maximize saving money whenever I buy the JR pass to get around. If the train has a Square you can use your JR pass, if it has a circle you can't.
If you have the Navitime app, you can filter routes by passes. So if you have the JR pass, and select it on the filter, you'll get new routes based on the fact that you have the JR pass. Actively attempting to avoid Pasmo/Suica trains for you.
the typical japanese bed is extraordinarily small by american standards. japanese also sleep with these tiny pillows that are terrible if you sleep on your side or stomach. you cannot fit two westerners on a japanese sized mattress. sorry, there's no way it's happening.
if you're staying somewhere for 2-3 weeks and moving all day, you need a comfortable place to relax at some point. if you're in your early 20s or something and traveling alone then go ahead and get the shittiest hotel possible because your body can take that abuse, but for us 30 year olds traveling with women, that's just not possible.
>Your JR pass works in the subway
no it does not. it works on JR lines only, which is not the local subway lines. you are spreading misinformation.
i use google maps in japan and it serves me just fine. i have a suica card that i use for getting around on the subways. i'd rather spend a little extra for time and convenience while i'm on my vacation than try to methodically gameplan every move in a foreign country whose language i can neither read nor speak in order to save five dollars.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>no it does not. it works on JR lines only, which is not the local subway lines. you are spreading misinformation. >i use google maps in japan and it serves me just fine. i have a suica card that i use for getting around on the subways. i'd rather spend a little extra for time and convenience while i'm on my vacation than try to methodically gameplan every move in a foreign country whose language i can neither read nor speak in order to save five dollars.
It is not misinformation, you don't even know the bare basics of the train system. There are several JR lines that you can use to get around just fine, especially Tokyo. Again if the line has a Square it's a JR line, if it has ANYTHING OTHER THAN A SQUARE, you cannot use the JR pass. It isn't rocket science.
If you use the Navitime Japan App, filter in that you have the JR Pass, it'll give you routes that use JR lines. You don't even have to methodically plan anything. There is an App that does it for you IN REAL TIME. Just use the Navitime App, it's quite literally that simple.
>if you're staying somewhere for 2-3 weeks and moving all day, you need a comfortable place to relax at some point. if you're in your early 20s or something and traveling alone then go ahead and get the shittiest hotel possible because your body can take that abuse, but for us 30 year olds traveling with women, that's just not possible.
I went to Japan for 3 weeks with a group of 5, 3 of which were women. It's a poor excuse. Theyre are a plethora of places to relax at in Japan that are always a stones throw away. Many of which have comfortable seating, and food stalls so you can grab food and eat right there. I find most of these places on complete accident, that's just how frequently they appear.
If you don't want a Japanese bed and want something more similar to western standards, use Airbnb and look for Chinese couples that run mini hotels. The bed quality is always top notch and the rooms are extremely affordable.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You can believe this if you want, but it's just not true.
I spent a week in Tokyo and two in Osaka anon. All the best food I had were from stalls.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>All the best food I had
some example please? how much did they cost usually? Are you a foreigner? If so, did you have to haggle with them to server you?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Haggle
Not this guy but do we really talk about the same county? You dont know places where you pay upfront in machine, show the ticket to the cook and eat the meal?
Why do you need a good room? All you need is a nice bed and a bathroom. Do you people seriously go to a new country and spend more than an hour in your hotels in the morning? I get an airbnb or a small room in Japan for just 20-30 bucks a night. It can be even cheaper if you don't mind shared bathrooms.
>you're forgetting that if you're trying to ride the subway your JR pass isn't going to work. and i'm basing my figure off the 14 day pass because you are moronic if you travel to japan from the West for only 7 days. by the time you're done with jetlag it's already time to leave.
Your JR pass works in the subway and is the best way to maximize saving money whenever I buy the JR pass to get around. If the train has a Square you can use your JR pass, if it has a circle you can't.
If you have the Navitime app, you can filter routes by passes. So if you have the JR pass, and select it on the filter, you'll get new routes based on the fact that you have the JR pass. Actively attempting to avoid Pasmo/Suica trains for you.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Do you people seriously go to a new country and spend more than an hour in your hotels
Yes. Four hours a day outside my room is typical. Enough time to eat a couple meals and take an evening stroll. Stupid tourists, even on your vacation you have to be bustling around the city all day like you were still in the rat race, lel.
>this is not really my experience. you are not staying in a hotel in, say, shinjuku with a western sized bed for under 250 USD a night. it's just not happening. maybe if you want to stay out in ueno or something you can pull that off, but i feel like that's a sacrifice in convenience...
Comfort and convenience will differ for everyone, so that is a factor. My point still stands though, especially when one is willing to accommodate to a budget. I'm currently planning a trip this year and managed to find a room in Osaka at an average hotel for about $70 CAD, and it's fairly close to Dotonbori
>you're forgetting that if you're trying to ride the subway your JR pass isn't going to work. and i'm basing my figure off the 14 day pass because you are moronic if you travel to japan from the West for only 7 days. by the time you're done with jetlag it's already time to leave.
There's a very good chance that it doesn't make sense financially to have a JR rail pass for the entire trip, especially now that prices have been jacked up. For me personally I usually begin and end my trip in Tokyo, so it's only the middle part where having a JR rail pass would make any sense.
>if you're sticking to mostly 7/11 food then yeah you can keep food under 1k but you are really cucking yourself out of a vital experience if you're not visiting high end restaurants in a place like tokyo.
"Going cheap" doesn't have to mean eating conbini food. Casual dining is very much an option, where you can get great food at reasonable prices. I agree that it would be nice to have at least one fine dining experience if possible, but I don't necessarily think it's a "vital experience". I've heard people visiting Japan but refusing to even try anything with fish in it. Now THAT is waste
>100 bucks minimum
apas and similar in good locations are for 40-50dol per queen size bed room.
dunno about the flight from usa, but i recon you could get a flight for lower than 1600
/trv are really filled with people that cant into expanses. >returned from 2 week jap trip 6weeks ago, total amount spent was around 2200dol (this includes flight, hotel, 2 week railpass for old price, food, sightseeing tickets and all the stuff i bought, which was probably around 300dol alone).
remember /tv more than half of posters dont know shit about what theyre talking about.
Let me ask you this do you think the average person in japan makes $8000 a week? Or if we discount airfare $6500 a week? Obviously not so clearly it is possible to live on a lot less than that in Japan so long as you aren't going to the most expensive restaurants breakfast, lunch and dinner and aren't staying at a luxury hotel.
A month long rental can be had for $1000-$1500 depending on location and specific amenities. Cheap and tasty food can be acquired from conbini and inexpensive restaurants. Public transport is reliable and omnipresent.
>Thailand
Yeah if 70% of your budget is prostitutes then I can see how you would need 8k for a week but most people travel to experience foreign countries not those countries wet stinky holes.
Does the average person sleep in a hotel and go out to eat for 3-5 meals a day? no. a tourist does though. Are you seriously comparing a lovals cost to a tourists costs? lol
$8000 is still a ridiculous budget.
Let's say lodging $100/day, food $40/day for 9 days is $1260 and add to that $350 for JR pass $100 subway and $500 on cool shit, $300 on incidentals/alcohol and $1200 for airfare you're not even up to $4000.
They're not wrong though. The average tourist will not need $8000 for a week. Heck with that much money you can splurge and still easily have enough for 2 weeks.
>dude just eat packets of ramen each day
Dinner alone should cost a minimum $100, especially if it's a date. Do you inky eat once a day?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>every dinner should be $100USD
A fool and his money indeed.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, just because you eat 300 yen conbini bentos every day doesn't mean everyone does
3 months ago
Anonymous
>hyperbole to try and win an argument
3 months ago
Anonymous
what's the price for a chicken breast, potato, and broccoli? Imagine being so morbidly obese you need to spend $3000 a month on food
3 months ago
Anonymous
>what's the price of Western food in Japan
just stay home. If you aren't going to Japan to eat the best quality sushi or beef then why even go other than for the "place, Japan" meme
3 months ago
Anonymous
To eat perfectly fine food the average person would eat? Yeah I'd also would like to splurge on a few meals on my trips but I wouldn't spend $100 on every single one of them. I don't need to go to a michelin star restaurant to get some great ramen. And I don't need to spend an outrageous amount of money for amazing sushi when a simple kaitenzushi place serves sushi better than the average restaurant in North America.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>pay $1000 for a flight and several hours in travel >bargin bid food for $5 a meal instead of getting actual good food.
ok.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I never understood this mindset. People spend tons of money and all their vacation time to each literal gas station tier food and shit holes and claim they enjoy it. How can anyone enjoy that? it's like taking a shower then putting on dirty clothes. Makes no sense
3 months ago
Anonymous
Just admit it. Your wagecucked vacation-taking ass has no freaking idea how to live the leisure travel lifestyle. How to find amazingly delicious food and drink for less money than pre-packaged goyslop at 7-Eleven. You only know how to paypig at tourist traps with glamorous advertising. >taking a shower then putting on dirty clothes
Damn right, you smelly sweaty dumbass. Shower three times a day, change clothes once a day. It's that easy.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I never understood this mindset. People spend tons of money and all their vacation time to each literal gas station tier food and shit holes and claim they enjoy it. How can anyone enjoy that? it's like taking a shower then putting on dirty clothes. Makes no sense
>go to a fancy restaurant to get a $50 bowl of ramen >go to a normal restaurant for a $10 bowl that tastes just as good, maybe even better.
Yes, I think that is ok.
Also I don't see how going to a normal average equates to "gas station tier food". I dunno, maybe that's how it is where you guys live.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I literally said steak and high quality sushi you poor frick. Can you not read? who the frick said anything about garbage ramen? next you'll tell me the curry is fine enough dining despite no one bringing it up.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The same logic can apply to steaks and sushi you dumb shit. The point is that you don't need to go to a high standard restaurant to enjoy great food. Plus the topic was about enjoying Japan on a "budget". Not only can YOU not read, but no one cares about you flaunting your high standards.
And no, I actually don't like curry.
And this topic is about going to Japan on a "budget". Can YOU not read???
3 months ago
Anonymous
yes my budget is clearly higher than yours. What's your point? I go to Japan to experience the best it has to offer. Doing anything less is a disservice to yourself. Enjoy your fricking top ramen though lmao. >Oooo oh a slice of pork!
3 months ago
Anonymous
>food is only good if its expensive
I have some magic beans if you're interested.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Japan isn't know for its magic beans, that's Belgium.
>Does the average person sleep in a hotel
My apartment costs $50 a night, you can easily score a 2-star hotel in Japan for that costs, or a three star hotel in a smaller city. >and go out to eat for 3-5 meals a day
An average meal in America is $25 including food+tip+tax. So you are looking at $75 a day for eating out in America. You can easily live off of $25 a DAY in Japan, including Tokyo.
Not that guy but you can score superb food for 25dol if you know where to eat, im done with all hamericans in this thread that cant imagine good meals for fair prices. Did your motherland fricked you up so much that you cant comprehand something this simple?
i would honestly argue that the only reason to visit thailand is to frick the prostitutes. the rest of the country isn't really that impressive or worth visiting outside maybe phuket.
also you are a bozo if you are traveling alone to japan with 3000 USD. it's just not going to be that fun.
word of advice to you guys: you will only experience japan for the fist time once in your life. make sure it's as memorable as possible because it's not the same after the first time. it's not something you want to cheap out on. if that means waiting another year before you go so you can save up some scratch, then do that
>you will only experience japan for the fist time once in your life
I've been to Japan. It was alright but overrated. Wouldn't go again unless I had a really good reason.
Nonsense. 2k is a very, very comfortable budget for a month in Bangkok, half of which is for a nice condo via airbnb. If you are willing to compromise on the accommodation you can easily go below 2k$
Dude, a friend and I payed per person 850€ for return flight from Central Europe to Japan and total of 720€ from 14 days in Tokyo and Osaka for accommodation and around €300 euros for metros and trains for cities in between. With a budget of 100€ per day, that's about 3300€ in total.
That's enough for 2 months flights included if you don't mind living modestly. Hostels are almost free outside of city centers and affordable tasty food can be found with some effort.
I went in December, UK Heathrow > JP Haneda, cost about £950 for the flight, hotels altogether was around £650, food was cheap - I'd say I ate 3-4 meals a day and each one (with a drink) cost me about £4-8.
Altogether for two weeks with hotels/flights/food/trips all over the place/train/disneyland/purchases/attractions I spent about £2600 - to be clear that's rougly $3,303.04
I went to Japan for 2 weeks from late November to early December. Week in Kanto and week in Kansai(but honestly I should've spent some of that Kanto week on an overnight trip further out like Nikko or on more time in Kansai).
I prepared 10K yen per day not counting airfare and buying first 3 stays in advance, and I had money left over at the end to go buy shit in Denden Town. I was staying in either manga cafes(situational, some have too small booths to get a comfortable rest in and/or have people who aren't actually there to sleep making noise, others are fine) or capsule hotels(no negative experiences but I only used ones near the top of user ratings since I heard some bad things about the worse ones). It also helped that I don't give a rats ass about Disneyland or USJ nor 3D prostitutes unlike some anons here.
I went to Japan in September of 2023. I went for 3 weeks and only spent about 2,000 USD. I went with friends though. Food portions in Japan are huge and very filling, so sharing food was how we kept the prices so low.
I really recommend going with friends and at least having one social person in the group. The Japanese love foreigners, especially the more you go into the countryside where they're a rarity. We ate with families during our trek to the Yumoto region in Tochigi, got treated to free food when we were biking the Gifu valley's. Were gifted some fruits when walking through the fields of Nagano. And so much more as we explored. It was an unforgettable adventure and I only hit about 2k. I completely over prepared budget wise.
UK anon here, yeh it's definitely the biggest burn - but if you're going to travel 13-14 hours I'd assume that it's a destination you really want to visit - that's my case with Japan, so I felt like it was worthwhile after saving some money over the last year.
Also worth noting that you could get the flights cheaper than mine if you didn't mine doing a layover/multple flights to get there, same goes for accomodation, I stayed in a few APA hotels during my stay but I could've easily gone a little further out or picked something cheaper.
I wanted to be comfortable and APA worked perfect for solo travel. I will probably go back to Japan one day but for now some cheap and short flights would be a blessing.
Excluding flights, is £5,000 enough for accommodation, food, travel, activities and some souvenirs? For two people for 3 weeks?
I'm thinking of visiting with my GF in March/April 2024 for Sakura. A few days in Tokyo as she wants to visit Disneyland, but mostly interested in old castles, hot springs and the culture/food. Don't want to stay in hostels/capsules and cheap places, but also don't want to be in some ultra-luxe hotel.
I've got a companion voucher and more than enough air miles so a business class return for two will cost me about £1,100. I'll be booking in about a month or two when the seats get released but wanted to know how much I should be saving up.
I guess if you break it down:
That's £2,500 per person for 3 weeks. That'll end up being £119 per day, or roughly 22,000 yen per day.
Normally I'd 22,000 per day is doable but since you're going during the sakura season and probably haven't booked hotels yet, sticking to that budget might be pretty tight. Not impossible, but it may require a lot of looking around and willingness to book something a little further away from the popular spots.
Excluding flights, is £5,000 enough for accommodation, food, travel, activities and some souvenirs? For two people for 3 weeks?
I'm thinking of visiting with my GF in March/April 2024 for Sakura. A few days in Tokyo as she wants to visit Disneyland, but mostly interested in old castles, hot springs and the culture/food. Don't want to stay in hostels/capsules and cheap places, but also don't want to be in some ultra-luxe hotel.
I've got a companion voucher and more than enough air miles so a business class return for two will cost me about £1,100. I'll be booking in about a month or two when the seats get released but wanted to know how much I should be saving up.
Thanks in advance
That's actually a perfectly fine budget if you consider they're traveling as a couple and sharing accommodation (and assume the GF orders smaller things at restaurants).
Think of it this way, excluding flights they have 5000 GDP and they get a hotel room for 100 GBP a night, for 20 days (thinking the departure date doesn't require a hotel) that should be well enough, they have 13500 jpy each per day to spend on shopping, dining transportation and entertainment.
3 weeks imo is also kind of a long time but I don't really care that much for japanese culture so I don't think I'd spend that much time in Kyoto for example.
Oh for sure, in normal circumstances I think it would be perfectly fine as well. I'm just not sure how high the prices are for a not cheap place during the sakura season,
$3k total no, thats how much i spent on flight and hotel for two weeks package when they opened up back in October 2022 for a April trip in 2023
now a the same trip will cost about $4k with cheaper hotel
need more info on when you plan to travel and how many days since getting hotels and flights few months in advance best prices
probably spent close to $1k (yen was stronger compared to now) in cash in two weeks in activities, food, Akihabara and souvenirs for people
What is Golden Week like to travel? I will visit around that time. I've been there several times but not during Golden Week. Is it like every day it's crowded like it's a Saturday or is it even worse?
I heard it can get really bad. I was there last year during Golden Week but stayed in Tokyo pretty much the entire time, so didn't get to personally experience how bad it could get traveling wise.
In terms of crowds, it really depends on location but I found that some places are even worse than a typical weekend crowd. We were in Sunshine City in Ikebukuro and happen to walk by the Pokemon store and there was massive line to just get in the place. I have NEVER seen a line to simply go in.
If you're spending over 3k in Japan, you're going to japan wrong. I go TWICE a year for 2 weeks and never spend more than 2k. The only thing expensive is the flight, everything else is dirt cheap.
>why do you spend so much >why do you spend so little >why are you staying in an expensive hotel >why are you staying in a run down hostel >why are you eating at expensive restaurants >why are you eating at gyudon stalls
Jesus fricking christ you dumb ass fricking triple giga Black folk. People have preferences, people like and hate certain things, not everyone needs to be the same.
On to the topic of trains and JR passes, specially in Tokyo. You would be gimping yourself and wasting too much time by limiting yourself only to JR trains just because you have a JR pass. Trains are cheap and there are a lot of places with no JR stations nearby.
I did flight from east coast for 1100 once and 1360 another time. Both times 470 bucks for 9 days at hotel (just a cheap 3 star so it was just a bed/fridge/private bathroom). Then I spent like 600-800 on the rest (food, train, attractions, souvenirs).
Sonyeah 2000 will be enough but obviously have extra in case
Yes, you can spend $1200 for a round trip flight ticket, and $500-1000 for an airbnb for a whole ass month then have $1000-1500 to spend on whatever you want for a month there
Here's a more simple question: How much should you have when travelling solo there for 60 days (10 days in Tokyo and rest elsewhere in JP) on a shoulder season? Considering you would stay in classic hotels for like 3/4 of your trip, and would taste all kinds of food, not going michelin though; and the attractions would be shrines, views, shops, the classic things to see.
Im going in mid April as a bday treat, my plane tickets were a gift thank god. Is 4k enough for everything else. Planning on 14ish days Tokyo and Kansai
3k total as in flight hotel and experiences?
I had a budget of 3.5k to spend and honestly struggled to spend it. I took 1k out and spent it and then took another 1k out and was left with like 300 bucks. if you are going for a week and have about 1k to spend then that will be plenty. Japan is SUPER cheap esp if youre American cause the yen is SUUUUUPER weak. Also wait until you get to japan and just withdraw money from atm. I think I paid like 1-3 dollar to withdraw like 600-800 USD which equalled around 100k yen. Note most meals are between 1k for good food to 2k for kinda fancy. Japan is Giga cheap dont listen to these moron > t. went last November
anyone saying you need to spend a lot of money on food is an idiot
food is very cheap in japan
you can get a great meal pretty much anywhere for $10
best meal I had in Japan cost me $8
>wait until you get to japan and just withdraw money from atm
this, and use the cute 7/11 atms with the nintendo interface
>Is $3,000 USD, total, enough money to travel to Japan in 2023?
It's enough to get you there and that's it. They just quintupled the price of getting the train around Japan literally two weeks ago.
I haven't seen any recent news regarding train prices going up. Unless you're referring to the JR Rail pass, which had a 70% increase last October.
At any rate the increased price for the JR rail pass shouldn't affect the average tourist too much, just a hassle that you now have to go buy tickets for individual trips. In terms of pricing, a shinkansen trip through Tokyo, Kyoto, and Osaka cost less than the old 7 day JR rail pass.
I WILL travel, I WILL inflate the price of prostitutes and goods and services, I WILL gentrify every hidden tourist destination until the country resembles Disney World, and you WILL do nothing
in usd
$70.76/n 3 nights close to tokyo station (<10min walk)
and $63.38/n 4 nights close to shinjuku station (<10min walk)
it's just slightly before cherry blossoms but it wouldn't make much difference... because you have to book way in advance, like a few months in advance, also check every week or so to see if any others have come up cheaper that you can change bookings to (this saved me about £200 total on this 3 week trip for 20mins of effort). none of this is a problem they all have free cancellation so if you can't decide book a couple and decide closer to the time
I found that the dates make a difference. The thing is my trip is roughly Mar 21 to April 8. The numbers I see that close to tokyo station and whatnot are never as good as the ones you posted for several weeks earlier
i actually traveled to japan for free as a stowaway, slept in parks, got free food from temples and helpful people, and showered in sentos without paying a dime.
DM me for details.
pussies, haters and copers not allowed.
shit thread btw, OP is a fricking moron.
But what did you *do* during those 10 days if your accommodations were included in that price? Even if you somehow spent only $50 a day for hotels, that's $500, leaving you with $600 for food and experiences and anything else you wanted to buy?
Crime: Crime against U.S. citizens in Japan is generally low and usually involves personal disputes, theft, or vandalism. In addition:
Robberies committed after a victim has been drugged from a spiked drink can occur, especially in nightlife districts.
Sexual assaults are not often reported, but they do occur, and victims may be randomly targeted. Victim's assistance resources or shelters are difficult for foreigners to access.
Hate-related violent crimes rarely occur, although some U.S. citizens have reported being the target of discrimination because of their nationality or their race.
Pick pocketing can occur in crowded shopping areas, on trains, and at airports.
Police reports must be filed before leaving Japan, as Japanese police will not accept reports filed from overseas.
In instances involving credit card theft or fraud, Japanese police often provide a report number rather than a police report. You can provide this report number to your credit card company to confirm the incident with the police.
Use caution in all entertainment and nightlife districts throughout Japan, especially Roppongi, Kabuki-cho, Shibuya, and Ikebukuro.
Incidents involving U.S. citizens in these areas include physical and sexual assaults, drug overdoses, theft of purses, wallets, cash and credit cards at bars or clubs, and drugs slipped into drinks.
Drink spiking at bars and entertainment venues, especially in areas such as Roppongi and Kabuki-cho, near Shinjuku, has led to robbery, physical and sexual assaults, and credit card fraud. Some victims regain consciousness in the bar or club; other victims may awaken on the street or other unfamiliar locations.
U.S. citizens have reported being threatened with gun or knife violence in such venues so that they will pay exorbitant bar tabs or withdraw money. U.S. citizens have also reported being beaten when they have refused to pay or hand over money.
There have been reports of U.S. citizens being forcibly taken to ATMs and robbed, or made to withdraw funds after being unable to pay exorbitant bar tabs.
Please be aware that Roppongi, Kabuki-cho, and other entertainment and nightlife districts have also been the scenes of violence between criminal syndicates.
every single government website of every single white country issues these warnings on the Japan travel advice section of their government websites.
When I was sleeping in internet cafe, they tried to steal my bag. I had to sleep with one eye open, I couldn't relax.
Did that feel limiting? How much did you spend on accommodations? Surely there wasn't much left over to do things or purchase items after flight + hotel?
I spent $5.5k CAD for 3 weeks, and I also flew from Toronto. I took a trip to Okinawa and usually stayed in hotels ranging from $60 to 140/night. What was the allocation of your expenses?
Flight was 1.6k (a 1.3k flight on JAL was possible but I missed out) = 1600.00$
Hostel in Shinjuku was exactly 50$ (Cad) per night for 10 days (free breakfast everyday) = 500.00$
Shinkansen to Osaka = 140.00$
Hostel in Namba Osaka was about 35$ (Cad) per night for 7 days = 245.00$
Shinkansen back to tokyo = 140.00$
Hostel in Shinjuku (went back to same hostel) for 4 days = 200.00$
food going to random non expensive chain restaurants like Sukiya, Matsuya, Yoshinyoa, Ichiran, Ippudo, 7/11 = 400 - 500$
3325.00$ (Canadian dollars) for 3 weeks. I could of easily reduced by taking round trip bus to and from Osaka and being more alert on flight price fluctuations
I want to add, I'm not much of a splurger. I didn't buy any souviners or japan exclusive things. I just went to get away from the stress that is life in Canada
wow, I dont know how anyone can stay at a hostel for that long. After 3 days, I wanted to be in a hotel with my own bathroom, space to relax in peace, and no smelly foot odor in the air
I recently stayed two months at the same hostel in Osaka. I became friends with many of the staff, and they often game me a room to myself or with only one other person for most of my stay, and that person was a Japanese person who was essentially renting the room. The showers and bathrooms were outside of the room to minimize noise, and they were thoroughly cleaned every day. The place was cleaner than more expensive hostels/hotels I've stayed in before. The place is highly rated and has reasonable rates (not the absolute cheapest but often under $20 a day if you book for at least 7 days), and the only time my particular rooms were filled with guests were on Fridays or Saturdays with new arrivals spending the night.
Staying at the same place for so long led to met get closer to some of the staff. I'd sometimes play random games with them if I was on the main floor (silly stuff like Pop Up Pirate or card games), and we also hung out during their time off work (getting food, birthday celebrations, and a trip to the USJ theme park). It all made the trip a lot more fun and memorable. I still regularly keep in contact with them on Instagram and LINE.
I can understand wanting to spend more money for comfortable lodging on short stays, but it can add up if you stay for longer periods like I do. I also don't find much difference between a private room in a hotel and the kind of hostel I was staying at, although I'm very aware of some bad hostel setups (e.g., 20 beds in one room with cramped space and sketchy guests).
Some people have enough sense to change their socks on the regular. Hostels can be more relaxing than hotels, especially if the common space is well-appointed. And unless you have diarrhea, who cares about having your own bathroom.
https://i.imgur.com/hANfYuj.jpg
Then how did I just do this moments ago?
Round trip flights are for vacation cucks.
Entertainment and Nightlife Districts in Tokyo:
Use caution in all entertainment and nightlife districts throughout Japan, especially Roppongi, Kabuki-cho, Shibuya, and Ikebukuro.
Incidents involving U.S. citizens in these areas include physical and sexual assaults, drug overdoses, theft of purses, wallets, cash and credit cards at bars or clubs, and drugs slipped into drinks.
Drink spiking at bars and entertainment venues, especially in areas such as Roppongi and Kabuki-cho, near Shinjuku, has led to robbery, physical and sexual assaults, and credit card fraud. Some victims regain consciousness in the bar or club; other victims may awaken on the street or other unfamiliar locations.
U.S. citizens have reported being threatened with gun or knife violence in such venues so that they will pay exorbitant bar tabs or withdraw money. U.S. citizens have also reported being beaten when they have refused to pay or hand over money.
There have been reports of U.S. citizens being forcibly taken to ATMs and robbed, or made to withdraw funds after being unable to pay exorbitant bar tabs.
Please be aware that Roppongi, Kabuki-cho, and other entertainment and nightlife districts have also been the scenes of violence between criminal syndicates.
every single government website of every single white country issues these warnings on the Japan travel advice section of their government websites.
When I was sleeping in internet cafe, they tried to steal my bag. I had to sleep with one eye open, I couldn't relax.
Typical of any nightlife district in the world, I'm afraid.
I'm considering a Japan trip however i'm in a wheelchair. Will travel be too difficult? I expect taxis or ride sharing apps to be most of my budget depending on where i'm trying to go. I mainly want to go on a booze cruise and try different kinds of sake. Haven't got an exact budget yet because it will take me a few years to get enough cash toward the vacation but i'd like it to be 2 weeks long minimum.
Damn, that's gotta rough. I've walked more than 15km per day in Japan.
Do you have someone to help you? I can't imagine how hard it would be to navigate through Toyko streets in a chair to get to a back alley Izakaya for some booze.
I saw one young girl in a wheelchair by herself in a place with a big sidewalk. I made eye contact with her and she had a bitter look in her eyes.
Some friends of mine are planning ahead of time with me to go on the vacation but because we all need a few years to save up nothings concrete. I don't usually have much of a problem getting around in America with a wheelchair but i'm not sure how difficult it will end up being in Japan. For short distances i can stumble around a bit but i need the wheelchair for anything longer than 5 minutes and even then i'm not quite steady on my feet. I'll need to plan around any travel to be as close to where i'm going as possible and that should make it easy to just sit down in an Izakaya without the wheelchair but that's why i may need to look into a guide and if that will end up being in the budget or if one of my friends will take this idea seriously and put together a travel plan.
Because fuel dumped fares don't work anymore you fricking idiot. That was my whole point. Your shit gets canceled within the hour. Fricking showing me the cart like it means anything, LOL
Seems like a skill/intelligence issue. Try getting the same price that I showed above
https://i.imgur.com/hANfYuj.jpg
Then how did I just do this moments ago?
Hell, I even gave the exact dates and cities. I won't hold my breath.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Boarding pass? I won't hold my breath 🙂
2 months ago
Anonymous
I'm still waiting for you to replicate the deal in the cart. Try applying yourself instead of being moronic.
2 months ago
Anonymous
The fuel dump grifter is a known troll, stop feeding him before he shills his paid blog.
[...]
I remember him posting this exact same image before too, desperate for people to believe the grift
Looks like a boarding pass is where you can trip him up though
2 months ago
Anonymous
The fuel dump grifter is a known troll, stop feeding him before he shills his paid blog.
https://i.imgur.com/Ri6fobM.jpg
Seems like a skill/intelligence issue. Try getting the same price that I showed above [...]
Hell, I even gave the exact dates and cities. I won't hold my breath.
I remember him posting this exact same image before too, desperate for people to believe the grift
I don't know how you'd time travel, if you would like to travel in 2024 that's doable. My budget would have had been under $3000, if I hadn't splurged on optional luxuries. Btw I traveled about 1/4th of the earth circumference, hence extra spending.
well you left off the plan for how long
to answer your question broadly, flights for me on the east coast of the US were $1500-$3000 when I went. hotels for 8 days were $600 or so.
so yeah it's very doable
no you'll need way more than that for a time machine that can take you back to 2023
hehe
>a time machine that can take you back to 2023
it's so close, it must be doable.
nope, only 20 minutes
>$800-900 for 1 month airbnb
>$1000 for airfare
>$1000 for food, a couple day trips, and a little fun
it's doable. with that budget, I'd just skip Tokyo altogether and make a base in Osaka for a month
>airbnb for 1 month for less than 1k
Is that really possible?
yeah, especially in Osaka. Don't expect anything really nice or in the center, but you could easily find a private one bed+bath+mini kitchen for that within walking distance of the main strip. even cheaper if you book a room instead of a private apartment, but then you are really poverty-tier
I just booked a studio apartment that's a 10 minute walk from Dotonbori for 2 1/2 weeks for $800 in March. It's even cheaper in places like Sapporo.
>$80-90 for 1 week otaku cafe
>$1000 for airfare
>$200 for food
>$1500 for rented gf and hookers
seems about right
certainly not, japan is one of the most expensive countries in the world for a reason. you're looking at $7k minimum for 2 weeks
>japan is one of the most expensive countries in the world for a reason
don't listen to these people OP, they're trying to troll you so you show up there with less money than you actually need and make you have a horrible time.
I get not wanting another Johnny Ethopia in your country but OP might actually be white, so he won't be a total fricktard while he's visiting.
>OP might actually be white
even more reasons to not mislead him
Johnny is somali.
he's ethiopian, he just says hes somalian to be cool because pirates are somalian and nobody knows ethiopia exists.
There's no need to be rude.
this is bait
you could get by on 3k a month. you could also spend 7k in two weeks if you want.
LOL I've visited Japan at least a dozen times and I've never even gotten close to $7k
I spent that much on a 10-days trip in Osaka but I was visiting the brothels daily.
Are there ones with russians/caucasians?
Think I used about 10k USD on my last 2 week trip there.
That was with a lot of travel within Japan and staying at decent hotels, also eating out every day, and partying every other day.
It's a lot cheaper than doing the same here in Norway, that's for certain.
Median japanese yearly salary is 30k and there is still a 20% income tax on top of it.
>Median japanese yearly salary is 30k
Wtf?
that can't be real?
It's real, japan is only expensive if you go to the center of the cities, the further you go the cheaper it gets, you don't even have to leave tokyo to find apartments in the 30,000 yen range(about $200 usd)
Yeah if you're really cheap you can stay in Chiba and just commute to Tokyo (30 min train ride). Chick I know has a 2 bedroom apartment out there for $400 a month. American city I live in you have to be on welfare to get even close to that cheap of housing.
The median salary was $30k in 1989 and its still 30k. Japan has basically just gone sideways for 30 years.
Plaza Accord is brutal
That's fricking insane.
No wonder they work themselves to death.
Cost of living was like a third cheaper though except for luxury goods like electronics (including their own) and imported goods.
Weren't they at the forefront of technology in the 80s must've been lightning in a bottle, why weren't they able to replicate that success?
What made that generation burst with enthusiasm, creativity, and passion?
I dont think the issue was something related to Japan (could be wrong) but mostly because the US and the rest of world decided to be reliant on cheap shit from China.
This. Same thing happened with cars too, just as American cars started to turn to shit, Japanese cars were pumping out higher quality for equal or less than the price of US cars.
American 80s cars were still kino but things started to go downhill in the 90s, which is especially evident by the Ford Taurus being overshadowed by the Toyota Camry.
>Country doesn't have israelites so no one introduces interest to their financial system
>Economy remains stable for decades
You morons realise the cost of things there has also stayed the same right so this isn't the shocker you think it is
I went to Japan in 2019 for a little over a week and I never spent more than $3000. And that was when the yen wasn't dogshit like it is now. If you haven't been to Japan, maybe shut the frick up.
KEK, maybe if you go to soapland every fricking day
>has never been to any other country before
you need to be 18 or older to post here
I'm from England and didn't find it particularly expensive.
Save up another 3-4k and do it then. Why tf do you want to be anxious and scraping pennies?
It cost me 3k to travel Japan including all the area from Fukushima to Kagoshima in 2019 but things are more expensive since then.
>6-7k USD for an 8 day trip
Come on man, that's just insane. A package deal of flights and the hotel probably won't even be half that amount.
Everyone's talking about one month on here so I thought it was for a month. Anyways, you want to oversave so you don't have to record every transaction you make or end up a begpacker whoring yourself on the roadside.
My costs for a trip in March currently look like this
>183,853 yen for 21 days in hotels (3* standard, all near to train stations)
>~£600 flights (the flights are £1200 but that is uk->japan->korea->uk, so since half my time is in japan I will only assign half the cost. I am sure you can get cheaper flights than that for US to Japan anyway)
>~£400 on shinkansen (one way form Tokyo to Fukuoka)
Converted, that is around 2500 usd before covering any spending. You can downgrade from hotels to hostels, you can take a cheaper alternative to shinkansen, you can go during a less busy month, even 3 weeks is a quite maximalist for just a holiday. Japan is not an expensive country. For spending it would be able half the daily cost of a trip in western Europe
Whats so cool in Tokyo you wont find in other cities?
Arcades, clubs you will find in many other cities, prostitutes too, shrines you will find in SEA for cheaper.
I dont understand whats so special about it?
depends entirely on how long you plan to be there.
if its something like 10-14 days in tokyo, staying at a business hotel, you should be good with 3k usd. it never hurts to bring more just in case though. also in this case, just use your card and withdraw at the conbini.
Get the cheapest flights possible, then you can spend a month comfortably if you stay in one place and get a discount (Airbnb) with cash to spare. If you want to move around a lot, you can still do 2 weeks easy.
>thread was made in 2024
You're getting old OP. Time passes too quickly for you, doesn't it?
This will be unpopular with a lot of the gays on here but I wouldn’t go near Tokyo with anything less than 10k. Japan is a first world country and priced like one.
For a 2 week trip you’re looking at 1600 in airfare alone. That’s half your budget right there. Then a reasonable accommodation in a non-shit area is like 100 bucks minimum per night. Your whole budget is gone after flight and hotel.
You can’t travel much by train, drink, buy souvenirs, try interesting food, shop, etc. you’ll probably have to skip meals and will end up meandering around Tokyo with nothing to do.
>For a 2 week trip you’re looking at 1600 in airfare alone. That’s half your budget right there. Then a reasonable accommodation in a non-shit area is like 100 bucks minimum per night. Your whole budget is gone after flight and hotel.
This is becoming more of the norm unfortunately. But if you look around and wait for sales, you can definitely find way more affordable rates. I bought tickets to Japan for this year for $1600 CAD, so that's about $1200 USD. That would leave $1800 for accommodations and food, which is still plenty.
Not sure why you think you'd need 10K, and honestly would love to hear how you got that number.
1600 airfare
1500 lodging
1000 transport (rail pass, subways)
1000 food
1000 entertainment
1000 on cool stuff, clothes, sword, figures
500 for gifts for friends and family
This is if I was doing it frugally. Tokyo is a great city with world class restaurants. You don’t sit in a world class restaurant and have a wagyu chateaubriand for less than 300 bucks.
Are you trying to frick in Japan? Get prepared to pay even more.
I definitely get pretty close to $3000 USD, and maybe in one or 2 instances I go past it, but $10K is pretty ridiculous
>1600 airfare
>1500 lodging
Again, becoming the norm but can be avoided if you search around for deals and sales. And it terms of lodging, location and quality of room are an important factor to consider as well. You can still find rooms easily under $100.
>1000 transport (rail pass, subways)
Not even close, especially if you're basing your prices based on Tokyo. Even if you were to buy the current 7 week JR rail pass, you'd probably only end up paying up to $600? But if you're only really planning on going to Osaka/Kyoto, then the rail pass isn't necessary and then you're looking near the $350 mark.
>1000 food
That really depends on what you're looking for. I'd say meals average around $20 per (breakfasts are usually cheaper, dinners can be a little more expensive). I totally get wanting to splurge on a few meals here and there, but $1000 for food alone is more than plenty.
>1000 entertainment
This really depends on what your itinerary is. Entry for temples and shrines are only a few bucks when needed, other attractions like the Sky Tree or Team Labs is like between $20-$40? And a ticket to either Tokyo Disneyland or Disney Sea is still under $100.
>1000 on cool stuff, clothes, sword, figures
>500 for gifts for friends and family
Again, this really depends on the individual. I only buy small trinkets and maybe some manga, but for someone who may be going to Japan for the first possible only time I get wanting to splurge a bit more than what I would.
Family don't really ask for much whenever I go to Japan (usually food related stuff), and I only buy a few boxes of "omiyage" you'd typically find at the airport for friends and for work. I probably don't even pay up to $200 for gifts.
As for adult entertainment, I have no experience there so there's nothing to share regarding my thoughts on budgeting for it.
>$10k is ridiculous
lolno
>airfare
September trip for me is $1400.
>you can find rooms easily under $100
You can, and frankly I don't give much of a shit for rooms, I'm only in them to shower and leave, and crash for the night anyway. That being said, no way I don't take advantage of multiple ryokans while in Japan and those are going to get pricey. I'll play ball and call it $1500 for a two week stay, including ryokans and budget elsewhere.
>transport
>osaka and kyoto dont need the pass
But I'm going to need a car rental to travel through Gifu. $350 for the megacities + $40/day + insurance/day, probably around 800 total tbh.
>$1000 for food is more than plenty
It's not about plenty, he's talking about fine dining. Personally, I could spend far more than a grand on food in two weeks. I easily spend $700/mo on food for myself at home and that's just me cooking. Going out for high quality meals can easily hit $1500-2k and you'd be a moron not to take advantage of the most michelin star restaurants in the world.
>shrines dont cost much
That's tourism, not entertainment. Shows, bars, clubs, that's gonna cost you. If you're anything like me and have good taste in booze, junmai daiginjo sake gets expensive quick. A meh bottle of it goes for around $75 in my state alone, a great bottle in Japan will probably be triple digits and I'm certainly having many of them. Same with Japanese Whiskey. I'll probably spend another $800-1500 here.
>souveniers
Waste of money imo, an experience and a memory is worth more than a bullshit trinket.
My own budget for a pretty higher end trip costs $6100-$7400 depending on how much I realistically blow on food, drink and partying.
You can do a cheap trip, but it's really not insane to splurge $10k on a 2 week stay if you want a truly high end experience, and I guarantee you that the finer things in life are definitely a far better memory than 7-11 take out meals.
Sorry, time travel is only possible moving into tomorrow.
>>$10k is ridiculous
>lolno
For the average tourist? That's a definite "LOL yes"
>September trip for me is $1400.
USD? I managed to get tickets for October at roughly $1,190 USD
>You can, and frankly I don't give much of a shit for rooms, I'm only in them to shower and leave, and crash for the night anyway.
I absolutely have the same mindset regarding rooms; I barely care about the quality as long as it's comfortable enough to relax and sleep in. Sadly it is getting far more difficult to find a decent place for under a $100 per night, but it is still possible
>But I'm going to need a car rental to travel through Gifu. $350 for the megacities + $40/day + insurance/day, probably around 800 total tbh.
Sure, but the average tourist doesn't. And of course this depends on itinerary but $40 per day for transport is rather high as well, even if you were to include shinkansen trips into the equation
>It's not about plenty, he's talking about fine dining
It's fine if you want to take advantage of all of the michelin star restaurants in Japan, but the initial question was if you'd be able to travel around on a budget and the answer is a comfortable "yes".
>That's tourism, not entertainment.
For the sake of this discussion/break down it's in the same category. But yes the stuff you listed would be pricey, which is exactly why budgeting for this greatly depends on the individual
>Waste of money imo, an experience and a memory is worth more than a bullshit trinket.
Meh, I disagree to a certain extent. Trinkets can be useful as a memory cue, something you can look back on to help reminisce about the trip
>You can do a cheap trip, but it's really not insane to splurge $10k on a 2 week stay if you want a truly high end experience
If we're talking on a high end experience then I totally get it, and I'd agree that 10K would be "frugal" in that regard. But it is still a "ridiculous" amount to suggest for the average tourist is all I'm saying
>You can still find rooms easily under $100.
this is not really my experience. you are not staying in a hotel in, say, shinjuku with a western sized bed for under 250 USD a night. it's just not happening. maybe if you want to stay out in ueno or something you can pull that off, but i feel like that's a sacrifice in convenience and you're cucked for things to do after trains shut down
>Even if you were to buy the current 7 week JR rail pass, you'd probably only end up paying up to $600?
you're forgetting that if you're trying to ride the subway your JR pass isn't going to work. and i'm basing my figure off the 14 day pass because you are moronic if you travel to japan from the West for only 7 days. by the time you're done with jetlag it's already time to leave.
>$1000 for food alone is more than plenty
if you're sticking to mostly 7/11 food then yeah you can keep food under 1k but you are really cucking yourself out of a vital experience if you're not visiting high end restaurants in a place like tokyo.
>This really depends on what your itinerary is
Yes, obviously but again it's a waste to travel all the way to japan if you're just going to meander through museums. unexpected events pop up in tokyo all the time and it's one of the best parts about being in the city.
>this is not really my experience. you are not staying in a hotel in, say, shinjuku with a western sized bed for under 250 USD
Last I went, I paid under 150 USD for a superior room with 2 queen sized beds.
I don't know how you even manage to get such shitty deals.
>$1000 for food alone is more than plenty
Agree with you on that one, I probably used roughly 5k on food and drinks for 2 weeks.
>hurdur you can dine for less than 100 bucks/day in 7/11
>can get superb ramen for 4-5dol, just check for recommendation on jap sites
>numerous restaurants serving perfect dishes for 10dol per portion maximum
Japan is king when it comes to good food/service and you can find 8-9/10 meals almost everywhere for cheap price.
I dunno what you two been smoking, but im tierd of poser posh people that think big dollar will get you best meal. You are literaly ignorant tier boomer that goes on art shows and buys whatever pricy thing without any knowledge about said item.
I know, micheli and a lot of other high end restaurants is an expirience and sure, its nice to do it once in a while, but in the end, its like with wine. You can get awsome stuff for 40 bucks per bottle, but hey there are 400 ones to, does it mean they are better? Nope, just a few of them and theyre like 5% tastier if you really have a great tastebuds and can even feel that shit, which you dont.
Spend your money however you want but dont trash this board with ignorant shit if you dont know what you write about.
i think if you were going to do a michelin restaurant, you'd do it in tokyo while on vacation, dude. that's what we are talking about.
it's a real waste if you're going to a world class city like tokyo with world class restaurants and only sticking to 7/11. if you're on a budget i don't know why you wouldn't just go to a more budget-friendly place like thailand. they have 7/11's in thailand too.
going to japan for 7/11 and family mart is just not a wise use of money or time.
Best michelin star in my expirience are the ones that are not glimmer posh loking joints that serves you a starter for 100dol, the best ones are small, not overcrowded places that are way of the beaten path. Check some of the less famous (not "star" restaurants that charge you in hundreds only becaus of michelin star). I didnt go to any michelin in tokyo but i was in one in Sing and Nz, they also charged like 15-20dol per meal.
Tokyo as a "world class" city that offers (like i mentioned) 8-9/10 star food expirience with the 10-20bucks range, all you have to do is a basic knolegde and reaserch.
Writing that spending less then 100dol per day on meals is literal 7/11 is stupid as shit.
You can eat superb dishes for less than 10dol in japan if you know where to look for them, spending 100dol might get you better chances of great meal if you dont know shit about food/reaserching restaurants/joints.
Fricking people treating michelin like its a disneyland, do you also think that watching any other movies than the ones that won the oscar is pleb tier?
yeah sorry dude but most people don't have time to find diamonds in the rough in their 2 weeks in japan. you stick to stuff that you know is good.
and the majority of michelin places in japan have very understated aesthetics and are tucked away and often difficult to find
>you stick to stuff that you know is good.
>it need tobe 100dol per meal or its a bust.
>its to difficult to make any reaserch by myself
Yeah mate, its still ignorant attitude, I have no problem with people spending their money on whatever they want but please dont trash this board with untrue shit like "japan is not budget friendly" foodwise. Its just shows how small your knowledge is on this topic really is. You can easy last with less than 10dol per day if you do 7/11 "diet", but between this and "less than 100dol" is giant space that offers so much more than what you wrote. Reserching stuff is no different than checking adress of michelin star restaurants, you basicly cuck yourself out of 99% of other good options because of your own accord. Being lazy about your travelplan is one thing and spewing your bullcrap take on the subject is another.
I wouldn't really call it lazy to go for a michelin place. it's not really easy to get a seat at one of these places. in fact, it's really hard and you need to reserve for months in advance and often set down a deposit.
on the other hand, for a tourist who speaks no japanese and has no local guide, finding some hole in the wall frequented by locals that's of solid quality is nigh impossible and not an intelligent use of time. i would rather just hop on a michelin guide and spend the extra money.
also keep in mind that a lot of these popular holes in the wall, think onigiri bongo in tokyo, have wacky wait times and still cost 50 dollars a meal for two people. just something to think about.
Its still lazy, you just project that it will take you more time than booking a michelin restaurant. You still write about posh places with big lines that overcharge. Thing is, there are numerous restaurants, bars and joints that offer terrific food from 10-25dol and sure some of them got lines but it usualy dont take more than 15min to get a seat. You assume many things without any expirience of your own, thats what I get from your post. Maybe try for once eat in a recommended place thats not +50dol (or michelin) and then form an opinion thats not based on your assumptions, i know its not for everyone but actualy finding and eating in those places is rewarding.
Do it at least once and than we may speak about how much afordable and great Japan restaurant food can be.
>"if you're not visiting high end restaurants in a place like tokyo."
Why the frick would you want to go eat at fine dining? The best food in Japan are the really cheap hidden in the corner shops or food stalls, especially if you're gonna go Osaka.
>The best food in Japan are the really cheap hidden in the corner shops or food stalls
You can believe this if you want, but it's just not true.
the typical japanese bed is extraordinarily small by american standards. japanese also sleep with these tiny pillows that are terrible if you sleep on your side or stomach. you cannot fit two westerners on a japanese sized mattress. sorry, there's no way it's happening.
if you're staying somewhere for 2-3 weeks and moving all day, you need a comfortable place to relax at some point. if you're in your early 20s or something and traveling alone then go ahead and get the shittiest hotel possible because your body can take that abuse, but for us 30 year olds traveling with women, that's just not possible.
>Your JR pass works in the subway
no it does not. it works on JR lines only, which is not the local subway lines. you are spreading misinformation.
i use google maps in japan and it serves me just fine. i have a suica card that i use for getting around on the subways. i'd rather spend a little extra for time and convenience while i'm on my vacation than try to methodically gameplan every move in a foreign country whose language i can neither read nor speak in order to save five dollars.
>no it does not. it works on JR lines only, which is not the local subway lines. you are spreading misinformation.
>i use google maps in japan and it serves me just fine. i have a suica card that i use for getting around on the subways. i'd rather spend a little extra for time and convenience while i'm on my vacation than try to methodically gameplan every move in a foreign country whose language i can neither read nor speak in order to save five dollars.
It is not misinformation, you don't even know the bare basics of the train system. There are several JR lines that you can use to get around just fine, especially Tokyo. Again if the line has a Square it's a JR line, if it has ANYTHING OTHER THAN A SQUARE, you cannot use the JR pass. It isn't rocket science.
If you use the Navitime Japan App, filter in that you have the JR Pass, it'll give you routes that use JR lines. You don't even have to methodically plan anything. There is an App that does it for you IN REAL TIME. Just use the Navitime App, it's quite literally that simple.
>if you're staying somewhere for 2-3 weeks and moving all day, you need a comfortable place to relax at some point. if you're in your early 20s or something and traveling alone then go ahead and get the shittiest hotel possible because your body can take that abuse, but for us 30 year olds traveling with women, that's just not possible.
I went to Japan for 3 weeks with a group of 5, 3 of which were women. It's a poor excuse. Theyre are a plethora of places to relax at in Japan that are always a stones throw away. Many of which have comfortable seating, and food stalls so you can grab food and eat right there. I find most of these places on complete accident, that's just how frequently they appear.
If you don't want a Japanese bed and want something more similar to western standards, use Airbnb and look for Chinese couples that run mini hotels. The bed quality is always top notch and the rooms are extremely affordable.
>You can believe this if you want, but it's just not true.
I spent a week in Tokyo and two in Osaka anon. All the best food I had were from stalls.
>All the best food I had
some example please? how much did they cost usually? Are you a foreigner? If so, did you have to haggle with them to server you?
>Haggle
Not this guy but do we really talk about the same county? You dont know places where you pay upfront in machine, show the ticket to the cook and eat the meal?
Why do you need a good room? All you need is a nice bed and a bathroom. Do you people seriously go to a new country and spend more than an hour in your hotels in the morning? I get an airbnb or a small room in Japan for just 20-30 bucks a night. It can be even cheaper if you don't mind shared bathrooms.
>you're forgetting that if you're trying to ride the subway your JR pass isn't going to work. and i'm basing my figure off the 14 day pass because you are moronic if you travel to japan from the West for only 7 days. by the time you're done with jetlag it's already time to leave.
Your JR pass works in the subway and is the best way to maximize saving money whenever I buy the JR pass to get around. If the train has a Square you can use your JR pass, if it has a circle you can't.
If you have the Navitime app, you can filter routes by passes. So if you have the JR pass, and select it on the filter, you'll get new routes based on the fact that you have the JR pass. Actively attempting to avoid Pasmo/Suica trains for you.
>Do you people seriously go to a new country and spend more than an hour in your hotels
Yes. Four hours a day outside my room is typical. Enough time to eat a couple meals and take an evening stroll. Stupid tourists, even on your vacation you have to be bustling around the city all day like you were still in the rat race, lel.
>this is not really my experience. you are not staying in a hotel in, say, shinjuku with a western sized bed for under 250 USD a night. it's just not happening. maybe if you want to stay out in ueno or something you can pull that off, but i feel like that's a sacrifice in convenience...
Comfort and convenience will differ for everyone, so that is a factor. My point still stands though, especially when one is willing to accommodate to a budget. I'm currently planning a trip this year and managed to find a room in Osaka at an average hotel for about $70 CAD, and it's fairly close to Dotonbori
>you're forgetting that if you're trying to ride the subway your JR pass isn't going to work. and i'm basing my figure off the 14 day pass because you are moronic if you travel to japan from the West for only 7 days. by the time you're done with jetlag it's already time to leave.
There's a very good chance that it doesn't make sense financially to have a JR rail pass for the entire trip, especially now that prices have been jacked up. For me personally I usually begin and end my trip in Tokyo, so it's only the middle part where having a JR rail pass would make any sense.
>if you're sticking to mostly 7/11 food then yeah you can keep food under 1k but you are really cucking yourself out of a vital experience if you're not visiting high end restaurants in a place like tokyo.
"Going cheap" doesn't have to mean eating conbini food. Casual dining is very much an option, where you can get great food at reasonable prices. I agree that it would be nice to have at least one fine dining experience if possible, but I don't necessarily think it's a "vital experience". I've heard people visiting Japan but refusing to even try anything with fish in it. Now THAT is waste
>100 bucks minimum
apas and similar in good locations are for 40-50dol per queen size bed room.
dunno about the flight from usa, but i recon you could get a flight for lower than 1600
/trv are really filled with people that cant into expanses.
>returned from 2 week jap trip 6weeks ago, total amount spent was around 2200dol (this includes flight, hotel, 2 week railpass for old price, food, sightseeing tickets and all the stuff i bought, which was probably around 300dol alone).
remember /tv more than half of posters dont know shit about what theyre talking about.
$3000 isn't even enough for Thailand anymore dude. You'll need at least $8000 to actually enjoy Japan for a week.
Let me ask you this do you think the average person in japan makes $8000 a week? Or if we discount airfare $6500 a week? Obviously not so clearly it is possible to live on a lot less than that in Japan so long as you aren't going to the most expensive restaurants breakfast, lunch and dinner and aren't staying at a luxury hotel.
A month long rental can be had for $1000-$1500 depending on location and specific amenities. Cheap and tasty food can be acquired from conbini and inexpensive restaurants. Public transport is reliable and omnipresent.
>Thailand
Yeah if 70% of your budget is prostitutes then I can see how you would need 8k for a week but most people travel to experience foreign countries not those countries wet stinky holes.
Does the average person sleep in a hotel and go out to eat for 3-5 meals a day? no. a tourist does though. Are you seriously comparing a lovals cost to a tourists costs? lol
$8000 is still a ridiculous budget.
Let's say lodging $100/day, food $40/day for 9 days is $1260 and add to that $350 for JR pass $100 subway and $500 on cool shit, $300 on incidentals/alcohol and $1200 for airfare you're not even up to $4000.
Sounds like you're poor
They're not wrong though. The average tourist will not need $8000 for a week. Heck with that much money you can splurge and still easily have enough for 2 weeks.
Paypigs will be paypigs. Charge them $100 for a $30 steak and they will enjoy it three times more, kek.
>$100/day on food
So $30 for each meal? what garbage are you eating? I need actual meals.
There can be a balance but you should definitely have money to spend on meals that cost over $100 usd.
he said $40/day on food...
>100USD on food per day
You do not need to pay that much man.
>dude just eat packets of ramen each day
Dinner alone should cost a minimum $100, especially if it's a date. Do you inky eat once a day?
>every dinner should be $100USD
A fool and his money indeed.
Anon, just because you eat 300 yen conbini bentos every day doesn't mean everyone does
>hyperbole to try and win an argument
what's the price for a chicken breast, potato, and broccoli? Imagine being so morbidly obese you need to spend $3000 a month on food
>what's the price of Western food in Japan
just stay home. If you aren't going to Japan to eat the best quality sushi or beef then why even go other than for the "place, Japan" meme
To eat perfectly fine food the average person would eat? Yeah I'd also would like to splurge on a few meals on my trips but I wouldn't spend $100 on every single one of them. I don't need to go to a michelin star restaurant to get some great ramen. And I don't need to spend an outrageous amount of money for amazing sushi when a simple kaitenzushi place serves sushi better than the average restaurant in North America.
>pay $1000 for a flight and several hours in travel
>bargin bid food for $5 a meal instead of getting actual good food.
ok.
I never understood this mindset. People spend tons of money and all their vacation time to each literal gas station tier food and shit holes and claim they enjoy it. How can anyone enjoy that? it's like taking a shower then putting on dirty clothes. Makes no sense
Just admit it. Your wagecucked vacation-taking ass has no freaking idea how to live the leisure travel lifestyle. How to find amazingly delicious food and drink for less money than pre-packaged goyslop at 7-Eleven. You only know how to paypig at tourist traps with glamorous advertising.
>taking a shower then putting on dirty clothes
Damn right, you smelly sweaty dumbass. Shower three times a day, change clothes once a day. It's that easy.
>go to a fancy restaurant to get a $50 bowl of ramen
>go to a normal restaurant for a $10 bowl that tastes just as good, maybe even better.
Yes, I think that is ok.
Also I don't see how going to a normal average equates to "gas station tier food". I dunno, maybe that's how it is where you guys live.
I literally said steak and high quality sushi you poor frick. Can you not read? who the frick said anything about garbage ramen? next you'll tell me the curry is fine enough dining despite no one bringing it up.
The same logic can apply to steaks and sushi you dumb shit. The point is that you don't need to go to a high standard restaurant to enjoy great food. Plus the topic was about enjoying Japan on a "budget". Not only can YOU not read, but no one cares about you flaunting your high standards.
And no, I actually don't like curry.
And this topic is about going to Japan on a "budget". Can YOU not read???
yes my budget is clearly higher than yours. What's your point? I go to Japan to experience the best it has to offer. Doing anything less is a disservice to yourself. Enjoy your fricking top ramen though lmao.
>Oooo oh a slice of pork!
>food is only good if its expensive
I have some magic beans if you're interested.
Japan isn't know for its magic beans, that's Belgium.
>Does the average person sleep in a hotel
My apartment costs $50 a night, you can easily score a 2-star hotel in Japan for that costs, or a three star hotel in a smaller city.
>and go out to eat for 3-5 meals a day
An average meal in America is $25 including food+tip+tax. So you are looking at $75 a day for eating out in America. You can easily live off of $25 a DAY in Japan, including Tokyo.
>2 star hotel
>eat $25 worth of goyslop each day
>pay $2000 in flight tickets
You're traveling wrong
Not that guy but you can score superb food for 25dol if you know where to eat, im done with all hamericans in this thread that cant imagine good meals for fair prices. Did your motherland fricked you up so much that you cant comprehand something this simple?
i would honestly argue that the only reason to visit thailand is to frick the prostitutes. the rest of the country isn't really that impressive or worth visiting outside maybe phuket.
also you are a bozo if you are traveling alone to japan with 3000 USD. it's just not going to be that fun.
word of advice to you guys: you will only experience japan for the fist time once in your life. make sure it's as memorable as possible because it's not the same after the first time. it's not something you want to cheap out on. if that means waiting another year before you go so you can save up some scratch, then do that
>you will only experience japan for the fist time once in your life
I've been to Japan. It was alright but overrated. Wouldn't go again unless I had a really good reason.
>It was alright but overrated.
broke homie alert
I had plenty of money.
Japan just isn't all that great.
name another city you went to (alone) that was more enjoyable
CDMX
CDMX is a shittier version of LA with some Aztec ruins.
Nonsense. 2k is a very, very comfortable budget for a month in Bangkok, half of which is for a nice condo via airbnb. If you are willing to compromise on the accommodation you can easily go below 2k$
Dude, a friend and I payed per person 850€ for return flight from Central Europe to Japan and total of 720€ from 14 days in Tokyo and Osaka for accommodation and around €300 euros for metros and trains for cities in between. With a budget of 100€ per day, that's about 3300€ in total.
What the frick are you talking about?
That's enough for 2 months flights included if you don't mind living modestly. Hostels are almost free outside of city centers and affordable tasty food can be found with some effort.
Probably not enough for the brats
I got the plane ride for pretty cheap
like 1300 round trip
straight up it was a very affordable trip
hotels in the middle of Tokyo are like 70 a night
food is incredibly cheap
plane tickets have gone up though
I went in December, UK Heathrow > JP Haneda, cost about £950 for the flight, hotels altogether was around £650, food was cheap - I'd say I ate 3-4 meals a day and each one (with a drink) cost me about £4-8.
Altogether for two weeks with hotels/flights/food/trips all over the place/train/disneyland/purchases/attractions I spent about £2600 - to be clear that's rougly $3,303.04
Hope that helps a little.
I went to Japan for 2 weeks from late November to early December. Week in Kanto and week in Kansai(but honestly I should've spent some of that Kanto week on an overnight trip further out like Nikko or on more time in Kansai).
I prepared 10K yen per day not counting airfare and buying first 3 stays in advance, and I had money left over at the end to go buy shit in Denden Town. I was staying in either manga cafes(situational, some have too small booths to get a comfortable rest in and/or have people who aren't actually there to sleep making noise, others are fine) or capsule hotels(no negative experiences but I only used ones near the top of user ratings since I heard some bad things about the worse ones). It also helped that I don't give a rats ass about Disneyland or USJ nor 3D prostitutes unlike some anons here.
I went to Japan in September of 2023. I went for 3 weeks and only spent about 2,000 USD. I went with friends though. Food portions in Japan are huge and very filling, so sharing food was how we kept the prices so low.
I really recommend going with friends and at least having one social person in the group. The Japanese love foreigners, especially the more you go into the countryside where they're a rarity. We ate with families during our trek to the Yumoto region in Tochigi, got treated to free food when we were biking the Gifu valley's. Were gifted some fruits when walking through the fields of Nagano. And so much more as we explored. It was an unforgettable adventure and I only hit about 2k. I completely over prepared budget wise.
Do you have any iterenary saved of the trip?;)
UK anon here, yeh it's definitely the biggest burn - but if you're going to travel 13-14 hours I'd assume that it's a destination you really want to visit - that's my case with Japan, so I felt like it was worthwhile after saving some money over the last year.
Also worth noting that you could get the flights cheaper than mine if you didn't mine doing a layover/multple flights to get there, same goes for accomodation, I stayed in a few APA hotels during my stay but I could've easily gone a little further out or picked something cheaper.
I wanted to be comfortable and APA worked perfect for solo travel. I will probably go back to Japan one day but for now some cheap and short flights would be a blessing.
When's the best time to.buy a ticket im planing to go in October..I saw the tickets were 1300 last month but they jumped up to 1900 this month..
Excluding flights, is £5,000 enough for accommodation, food, travel, activities and some souvenirs? For two people for 3 weeks?
I'm thinking of visiting with my GF in March/April 2024 for Sakura. A few days in Tokyo as she wants to visit Disneyland, but mostly interested in old castles, hot springs and the culture/food. Don't want to stay in hostels/capsules and cheap places, but also don't want to be in some ultra-luxe hotel.
I've got a companion voucher and more than enough air miles so a business class return for two will cost me about £1,100. I'll be booking in about a month or two when the seats get released but wanted to know how much I should be saving up.
Thanks in advance
I guess if you break it down:
That's £2,500 per person for 3 weeks. That'll end up being £119 per day, or roughly 22,000 yen per day.
Normally I'd 22,000 per day is doable but since you're going during the sakura season and probably haven't booked hotels yet, sticking to that budget might be pretty tight. Not impossible, but it may require a lot of looking around and willingness to book something a little further away from the popular spots.
That's actually a perfectly fine budget if you consider they're traveling as a couple and sharing accommodation (and assume the GF orders smaller things at restaurants).
Think of it this way, excluding flights they have 5000 GDP and they get a hotel room for 100 GBP a night, for 20 days (thinking the departure date doesn't require a hotel) that should be well enough, they have 13500 jpy each per day to spend on shopping, dining transportation and entertainment.
3 weeks imo is also kind of a long time but I don't really care that much for japanese culture so I don't think I'd spend that much time in Kyoto for example.
Oh for sure, in normal circumstances I think it would be perfectly fine as well. I'm just not sure how high the prices are for a not cheap place during the sakura season,
its like 1600 USD for a night at an acceptable hotel in Tokyo.
Don't forget about those health experts that a top by your room.
Maybe if you only go for a week and don't do anything expensive
$3k total no, thats how much i spent on flight and hotel for two weeks package when they opened up back in October 2022 for a April trip in 2023
now a the same trip will cost about $4k with cheaper hotel
need more info on when you plan to travel and how many days since getting hotels and flights few months in advance best prices
probably spent close to $1k (yen was stronger compared to now) in cash in two weeks in activities, food, Akihabara and souvenirs for people
Golden week is going to make everything much more expensive .
You should check that your hotel and flight stays aren’t in that time
What is Golden Week like to travel? I will visit around that time. I've been there several times but not during Golden Week. Is it like every day it's crowded like it's a Saturday or is it even worse?
I heard it can get really bad. I was there last year during Golden Week but stayed in Tokyo pretty much the entire time, so didn't get to personally experience how bad it could get traveling wise.
In terms of crowds, it really depends on location but I found that some places are even worse than a typical weekend crowd. We were in Sunshine City in Ikebukuro and happen to walk by the Pokemon store and there was massive line to just get in the place. I have NEVER seen a line to simply go in.
It depends on how long and what you want to do. If you're willing to do cheap things for less than 2 weeks, I'd say yes.
I stayed for 10 days with that budget. I mostly hung around with friends who are locals
Spent ~3k for 4.5 weeks last year for all of nov. Was extremely kino
If you're spending over 3k in Japan, you're going to japan wrong. I go TWICE a year for 2 weeks and never spend more than 2k. The only thing expensive is the flight, everything else is dirt cheap.
>why do you spend so much
>why do you spend so little
>why are you staying in an expensive hotel
>why are you staying in a run down hostel
>why are you eating at expensive restaurants
>why are you eating at gyudon stalls
Jesus fricking christ you dumb ass fricking triple giga Black folk. People have preferences, people like and hate certain things, not everyone needs to be the same.
On to the topic of trains and JR passes, specially in Tokyo. You would be gimping yourself and wasting too much time by limiting yourself only to JR trains just because you have a JR pass. Trains are cheap and there are a lot of places with no JR stations nearby.
>Read the entire thread
>Boils down to what this anon said
Right, so what I gain is it can be cheap, but if you talk about it you will get shunned by the rich.
To keep things cheap, do homestays allow foreigners?
Yes, no, it depends. Check each listing and if they only allow people who can speak the language.
I did flight from east coast for 1100 once and 1360 another time. Both times 470 bucks for 9 days at hotel (just a cheap 3 star so it was just a bed/fridge/private bathroom). Then I spent like 600-800 on the rest (food, train, attractions, souvenirs).
Sonyeah 2000 will be enough but obviously have extra in case
Easily you can have good time for 3 weeks considering the exchange rate
How viable would it be to stay in capsule hotels for 3 months or until i can find a japanese girl to take me in
Yes, you can spend $1200 for a round trip flight ticket, and $500-1000 for an airbnb for a whole ass month then have $1000-1500 to spend on whatever you want for a month there
>staying in hotels
Just stay in hostels for 1/3rd the cost.
> no time / dates for your trip.
Here's a more simple question: How much should you have when travelling solo there for 60 days (10 days in Tokyo and rest elsewhere in JP) on a shoulder season? Considering you would stay in classic hotels for like 3/4 of your trip, and would taste all kinds of food, not going michelin though; and the attractions would be shrines, views, shops, the classic things to see.
Im going in mid April as a bday treat, my plane tickets were a gift thank god. Is 4k enough for everything else. Planning on 14ish days Tokyo and Kansai
3k total as in flight hotel and experiences?
I had a budget of 3.5k to spend and honestly struggled to spend it. I took 1k out and spent it and then took another 1k out and was left with like 300 bucks. if you are going for a week and have about 1k to spend then that will be plenty. Japan is SUPER cheap esp if youre American cause the yen is SUUUUUPER weak. Also wait until you get to japan and just withdraw money from atm. I think I paid like 1-3 dollar to withdraw like 600-800 USD which equalled around 100k yen. Note most meals are between 1k for good food to 2k for kinda fancy. Japan is Giga cheap dont listen to these moron
> t. went last November
anyone saying you need to spend a lot of money on food is an idiot
food is very cheap in japan
you can get a great meal pretty much anywhere for $10
best meal I had in Japan cost me $8
>wait until you get to japan and just withdraw money from atm
this, and use the cute 7/11 atms with the nintendo interface
>Is $3,000 USD, total, enough money to travel to Japan in 2023?
It's enough to get you there and that's it. They just quintupled the price of getting the train around Japan literally two weeks ago.
I haven't seen any recent news regarding train prices going up. Unless you're referring to the JR Rail pass, which had a 70% increase last October.
At any rate the increased price for the JR rail pass shouldn't affect the average tourist too much, just a hassle that you now have to go buy tickets for individual trips. In terms of pricing, a shinkansen trip through Tokyo, Kyoto, and Osaka cost less than the old 7 day JR rail pass.
poorgays shouldn't be allowed to travel
I WILL travel, I WILL inflate the price of prostitutes and goods and services, I WILL gentrify every hidden tourist destination until the country resembles Disney World, and you WILL do nothing
this cost me 19,000yen
Pretty sure you added an extra 0 there, and even then that's pretty overpriced for what you got there.
I was referring to the computer.. just jokes, you're right kek
Why are you eating actual slop. Go outside
I could see what I was buying. cant always do that in a restaurant
Lol it's all good. But yeah, 1900 for that french toast dish was a bit pricey though. Those jiggly/fluffy pancake dishes go for around 1500
Going to Japan and the first thing you see is an Italian plumber welcoming you baka
comfy~
$CAD
flights
>1800
>300
>300 (missed the flight from above)
buses and trains
>no idea, probably 100
hotels
>500 (5 nights)
>32 (1 night)
>430 (3 nights)
>120 (2 nights)
>30 (1 night)
food
>no idea, anywhere from 4 to 20
other
>250 in art
>150 scuba diving
>50 random stuff
I'm probably looking at 5.5k for 3 weeks
What am I doing wrong, I keep hearing about how you can get places in Tokyo for $50 a night
did you try sorting price high to low? also checked
Maybe those people who gave you the quote had a girlfriend and just didn't mention it in the video. Everything was split 50/50
in usd
$70.76/n 3 nights close to tokyo station (<10min walk)
and $63.38/n 4 nights close to shinjuku station (<10min walk)
it's just slightly before cherry blossoms but it wouldn't make much difference... because you have to book way in advance, like a few months in advance, also check every week or so to see if any others have come up cheaper that you can change bookings to (this saved me about £200 total on this 3 week trip for 20mins of effort). none of this is a problem they all have free cancellation so if you can't decide book a couple and decide closer to the time
I found that the dates make a difference. The thing is my trip is roughly Mar 21 to April 8. The numbers I see that close to tokyo station and whatnot are never as good as the ones you posted for several weeks earlier
maybe, but i really doubt its going to be actually 2x the price booking a few months ahead
i actually traveled to japan for free as a stowaway, slept in parks, got free food from temples and helpful people, and showered in sentos without paying a dime.
DM me for details.
pussies, haters and copers not allowed.
shit thread btw, OP is a fricking moron.
Absolutely
I spent 10 days in Tokyo and Kyoto in November for about $1100 USD not including flight
But what did you *do* during those 10 days if your accommodations were included in that price? Even if you somehow spent only $50 a day for hotels, that's $500, leaving you with $600 for food and experiences and anything else you wanted to buy?
with $3k you can only afford the flight tickets lol
Crime: Crime against U.S. citizens in Japan is generally low and usually involves personal disputes, theft, or vandalism. In addition:
Robberies committed after a victim has been drugged from a spiked drink can occur, especially in nightlife districts.
Sexual assaults are not often reported, but they do occur, and victims may be randomly targeted. Victim's assistance resources or shelters are difficult for foreigners to access.
Hate-related violent crimes rarely occur, although some U.S. citizens have reported being the target of discrimination because of their nationality or their race.
Pick pocketing can occur in crowded shopping areas, on trains, and at airports.
Police reports must be filed before leaving Japan, as Japanese police will not accept reports filed from overseas.
In instances involving credit card theft or fraud, Japanese police often provide a report number rather than a police report. You can provide this report number to your credit card company to confirm the incident with the police.
Entertainment and Nightlife Districts in Tokyo:
Use caution in all entertainment and nightlife districts throughout Japan, especially Roppongi, Kabuki-cho, Shibuya, and Ikebukuro.
Incidents involving U.S. citizens in these areas include physical and sexual assaults, drug overdoses, theft of purses, wallets, cash and credit cards at bars or clubs, and drugs slipped into drinks.
Drink spiking at bars and entertainment venues, especially in areas such as Roppongi and Kabuki-cho, near Shinjuku, has led to robbery, physical and sexual assaults, and credit card fraud. Some victims regain consciousness in the bar or club; other victims may awaken on the street or other unfamiliar locations.
U.S. citizens have reported being threatened with gun or knife violence in such venues so that they will pay exorbitant bar tabs or withdraw money. U.S. citizens have also reported being beaten when they have refused to pay or hand over money.
There have been reports of U.S. citizens being forcibly taken to ATMs and robbed, or made to withdraw funds after being unable to pay exorbitant bar tabs.
Please be aware that Roppongi, Kabuki-cho, and other entertainment and nightlife districts have also been the scenes of violence between criminal syndicates.
every single government website of every single white country issues these warnings on the Japan travel advice section of their government websites.
When I was sleeping in internet cafe, they tried to steal my bag. I had to sleep with one eye open, I couldn't relax.
I spent roughly 3000$ (CAD) for 3 weeks in Japan. That's including round trip flight from Toronto btw
Did that feel limiting? How much did you spend on accommodations? Surely there wasn't much left over to do things or purchase items after flight + hotel?
I spent $5.5k CAD for 3 weeks, and I also flew from Toronto. I took a trip to Okinawa and usually stayed in hotels ranging from $60 to 140/night. What was the allocation of your expenses?
Flight was 1.6k (a 1.3k flight on JAL was possible but I missed out) = 1600.00$
Hostel in Shinjuku was exactly 50$ (Cad) per night for 10 days (free breakfast everyday) = 500.00$
Shinkansen to Osaka = 140.00$
Hostel in Namba Osaka was about 35$ (Cad) per night for 7 days = 245.00$
Shinkansen back to tokyo = 140.00$
Hostel in Shinjuku (went back to same hostel) for 4 days = 200.00$
food going to random non expensive chain restaurants like Sukiya, Matsuya, Yoshinyoa, Ichiran, Ippudo, 7/11 = 400 - 500$
3325.00$ (Canadian dollars) for 3 weeks. I could of easily reduced by taking round trip bus to and from Osaka and being more alert on flight price fluctuations
I want to add, I'm not much of a splurger. I didn't buy any souviners or japan exclusive things. I just went to get away from the stress that is life in Canada
wow, I dont know how anyone can stay at a hostel for that long. After 3 days, I wanted to be in a hotel with my own bathroom, space to relax in peace, and no smelly foot odor in the air
I recently stayed two months at the same hostel in Osaka. I became friends with many of the staff, and they often game me a room to myself or with only one other person for most of my stay, and that person was a Japanese person who was essentially renting the room. The showers and bathrooms were outside of the room to minimize noise, and they were thoroughly cleaned every day. The place was cleaner than more expensive hostels/hotels I've stayed in before. The place is highly rated and has reasonable rates (not the absolute cheapest but often under $20 a day if you book for at least 7 days), and the only time my particular rooms were filled with guests were on Fridays or Saturdays with new arrivals spending the night.
Staying at the same place for so long led to met get closer to some of the staff. I'd sometimes play random games with them if I was on the main floor (silly stuff like Pop Up Pirate or card games), and we also hung out during their time off work (getting food, birthday celebrations, and a trip to the USJ theme park). It all made the trip a lot more fun and memorable. I still regularly keep in contact with them on Instagram and LINE.
I can understand wanting to spend more money for comfortable lodging on short stays, but it can add up if you stay for longer periods like I do. I also don't find much difference between a private room in a hotel and the kind of hostel I was staying at, although I'm very aware of some bad hostel setups (e.g., 20 beds in one room with cramped space and sketchy guests).
Some people have enough sense to change their socks on the regular. Hostels can be more relaxing than hotels, especially if the common space is well-appointed. And unless you have diarrhea, who cares about having your own bathroom.
Round trip flights are for vacation cucks.
Typical of any nightlife district in the world, I'm afraid.
>Round trip flights are for vacation cucks.
The frick is this even supposed to mean?
you really are starved for attention, aren't you lol
I'm still waiting on that replicated fuel dump.
>inspect element
>change numbers
whoa... good morning sirs
I'm considering a Japan trip however i'm in a wheelchair. Will travel be too difficult? I expect taxis or ride sharing apps to be most of my budget depending on where i'm trying to go. I mainly want to go on a booze cruise and try different kinds of sake. Haven't got an exact budget yet because it will take me a few years to get enough cash toward the vacation but i'd like it to be 2 weeks long minimum.
Damn, that's gotta rough. I've walked more than 15km per day in Japan.
Do you have someone to help you? I can't imagine how hard it would be to navigate through Toyko streets in a chair to get to a back alley Izakaya for some booze.
I saw one young girl in a wheelchair by herself in a place with a big sidewalk. I made eye contact with her and she had a bitter look in her eyes.
I am so sorry
Some friends of mine are planning ahead of time with me to go on the vacation but because we all need a few years to save up nothings concrete. I don't usually have much of a problem getting around in America with a wheelchair but i'm not sure how difficult it will end up being in Japan. For short distances i can stumble around a bit but i need the wheelchair for anything longer than 5 minutes and even then i'm not quite steady on my feet. I'll need to plan around any travel to be as close to where i'm going as possible and that should make it easy to just sit down in an Izakaya without the wheelchair but that's why i may need to look into a guide and if that will end up being in the budget or if one of my friends will take this idea seriously and put together a travel plan.
I'm glad you have friends that will go with you. You seem to be a good think and planner. Best of luck to you
>fly to Japan round trip for $250
>spend $10,000+ on hookers.
fuel dumps fares don't work anymore
Then how did I just do this moments ago?
Do what? Take a screenshot of a cart? How about you post the actual receipt of your purchase
Care to share some wisdom on how this works and how I can do this myself?
You're going to have to read and research it yourself. No point in me trying to explain it here because it's relatively complicated.
Yeah, it's the cart that shows the fricking fuel dumped flight, moron. I'm not going to purchase a ticket I don't need.
Because fuel dumped fares don't work anymore you fricking idiot. That was my whole point. Your shit gets canceled within the hour. Fricking showing me the cart like it means anything, LOL
I've taken 4 fuel dump flights in the last year with zero issues. Not my fault you're too stupid to find one yourself.
Receipts? I won't hold my breath 🙂
Seems like a skill/intelligence issue. Try getting the same price that I showed above
Hell, I even gave the exact dates and cities. I won't hold my breath.
Boarding pass? I won't hold my breath 🙂
I'm still waiting for you to replicate the deal in the cart. Try applying yourself instead of being moronic.
Looks like a boarding pass is where you can trip him up though
The fuel dump grifter is a known troll, stop feeding him before he shills his paid blog.
I remember him posting this exact same image before too, desperate for people to believe the grift
As expected, brainlets can't figure it out and start making up nonsense.
I don't know how you'd time travel, if you would like to travel in 2024 that's doable. My budget would have had been under $3000, if I hadn't splurged on optional luxuries. Btw I traveled about 1/4th of the earth circumference, hence extra spending.
Vagrant Holiday did it for a rack and change and the yen is soft as baby shit against the dollar these days
Can you fricking speak English?
anyone have any recommendations for unlimited data provider for like a month long trip?
sage
>brainlets still can't figure out fuel dump
lmao