Just more bang for my buck in terms of things to do. Maybe more amateur sports leagues to join, concerts or music festivals, parties, classes or workshops in stuff I’m interested in, gyms to try out, clubs or groups to be a part of etc.
I graduated from the University of Arizona and it seems there's nothing to do outside of college here besides retiring as a rich boomer in the Catalina Foothills area.
Just more bang for my buck in terms of things to do. Maybe more amateur sports leagues to join, concerts or music festivals, parties, classes or workshops in stuff I’m interested in, gyms to try out, clubs or groups to be a part of etc.
I graduated from the University of Arizona and it seems there's nothing to do outside of college here besides retiring as a rich boomer in the Catalina Foothills area.
. Tucson is smaller and a little cooler than Phx but its not very interesting and its far from everything and its full of only 3 kinds of people- boomers, beaners and college students. If you're not one of those you're kind of out of place and its also pretty ghetto.
Phoenix has gotten to be so overdeveloped though. It's like LA in the desert now and almost as expensive. It gets hotter every year. I'm considering moving out of state entirely.
Might be for the best honestly, Im from AZ too, lots of things to love about this state but I dunno about staying here. Unique landscape, generally nice climate aside from summer, some nice outdoor activities, on the other hand though there's frick all to do outside of downtown areas, everythings sprawled out into a big strip malls, housing is overpriced, people are hit and miss...
Phoenix has changed a lot in recent years. Downtown PHX used to be only office space, completely dead after 5 PM except for the bums. Phoenix also used to be one of the most affordable major cities in America. Now I heard it's become hip and expensive. The sprawl surrounding the city is disgusting, as is the traffic. Soon the entire metro will be drinking their own sewage due to Colorado River cutbacks.
>people are hit and miss
Arizonans are perhaps the least friendly people of any American state, both face to face and behind the wheel. Even Mbuttholes are nicer.
nah. just trying to give you some motivation. but you will ever leave and everybody knows it. The SW is like a glue trap for losers
You must be thinking of New Mexico. Arizona is far from a great state, but it still has plenty of growth and opportunities for success.
Where do you recommend instead? I play some gigs as a DJ in Downtown Phoenix. I used to also play in Tucson but compared to that place, Phoenix is a step up >Arizonans are perhaps the least friendly people of any American state
I tend to agree. I've lived in a lot of places and idk why but AZ people are least likely to even smile or say hello when at a park or whatever. Overall most people outside of college kids tend to be miserable. >Was thinking Colorado but now its become pozzed.
Used to live in CO and it's a beautiful place to be but it costs quite a bit more to live and the girls there tend to be much less attractive compared to AZ >I'm thinking northern NV or Utah now
What's in northern NV? Utah could be good but I'd think non-Mormons would be like outcasts over there >Arizonans are very "hit and miss" behind the wheel.
yeah some of the worst driving I've ever seen. Unbelievable how much risk people are willing to take just to get somewhere a few secs earlier
>What's in northern NV?
Reno/Carson City area. Lots of mountains and deserts to explore. It's like a smaller Denver right now. Same kind of housing pressure but less big. Denver has more going on and a better climate though. Utah, I've heard is OK if you're not mormon if you stick to SLC metro areas or the tourist towns. The only real issue is jobs, mormons like hiring other mormons. Otherwise the mormons are kind of just npcs. They are polite but don't really involve you in their lives. I've heard sundays are awesome because you get to do fun things with non-mormons while they're all in church. The alcohol restrictions annoy me though... Good old Arizona, you can ride a quad down the street with a beer in your hand and a gun on your hip and nobody gives a shit.
Might be for the best honestly, Im from AZ too, lots of things to love about this state but I dunno about staying here. Unique landscape, generally nice climate aside from summer, some nice outdoor activities, on the other hand though there's frick all to do outside of downtown areas, everythings sprawled out into a big strip malls, housing is overpriced, people are hit and miss...
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Where are you guys considering moving to? I've been in AZ my whole adult life. Moved out here since San Diego became too expensive for my family
dunno, my new job has a lot of domestic travel so I suppose I'll sample what other places are like and see what I gravitate towards.
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>my new job has a lot of domestic travel
what kind of job is that? I actually work remote and sometimes will share an airbnb with a buddy or girl somewhere around the country for fun and go to a concert or an event like the U.S. Open
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I sell cumrag cleaning services with my mouth
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Project engineer. I probably won't have much time to enjoy the area since the work will keep me busy but Ill get a feel for the climate at least.
Might be for the best honestly, Im from AZ too, lots of things to love about this state but I dunno about staying here. Unique landscape, generally nice climate aside from summer, some nice outdoor activities, on the other hand though there's frick all to do outside of downtown areas, everythings sprawled out into a big strip malls, housing is overpriced, people are hit and miss...
Where are you guys considering moving to? I've been in AZ my whole adult life. Moved out here since San Diego became too expensive for my family
Was thinking Colorado but now its become pozzed. I don't really want to leave the SW for a flat state. I can't do that kind of lifestyle that doesn't include outdoor things. I'm thinking northern NV or Utah now.
Phoenix has changed a lot in recent years. Downtown PHX used to be only office space, completely dead after 5 PM except for the bums. Phoenix also used to be one of the most affordable major cities in America. Now I heard it's become hip and expensive. The sprawl surrounding the city is disgusting, as is the traffic. Soon the entire metro will be drinking their own sewage due to Colorado River cutbacks.
>people are hit and miss
Arizonans are perhaps the least friendly people of any American state, both face to face and behind the wheel. Even Mbuttholes are nicer.
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You must be thinking of New Mexico. Arizona is far from a great state, but it still has plenty of growth and opportunities for success.
>behind the wheel
Arizonans are very "hit and miss" behind the wheel. I've never been anywhere else where witnessing fender benders is such a common occurrence to where I see it almost daily or where being rear ended or sideswiped has happened more than one time to a person. Between mexicans, 99 year olds driving a big american boat around well under the speed limit, and meth heads driving a barely operable 90s shitbox with broken a/c or riding a clapped out Harley the driving is awful especially in the summertime when people to get impatient to get where they're going as their ride isn't comfortable.
Colorado Springs is one of the more conservative big cities in America. Manitou Springs is next door but very different, it makes a great quirky escape from suburbia. And beyond are miles and miles of mountains.
Arguably, Colorado Springs has a better climate than Reno. Reno gets all its clouds and bad weather in the cold months, while summers are parched and hotter than hell under full sun. The Springs has a relatively dry winter, and summers usually bring cooling afternoon showers, though hot dry spells do occur. Both cities see shitty spring weather.
Where do you recommend instead? I play some gigs as a DJ in Downtown Phoenix. I used to also play in Tucson but compared to that place, Phoenix is a step up >Arizonans are perhaps the least friendly people of any American state
I tend to agree. I've lived in a lot of places and idk why but AZ people are least likely to even smile or say hello when at a park or whatever. Overall most people outside of college kids tend to be miserable. >Was thinking Colorado but now its become pozzed.
Used to live in CO and it's a beautiful place to be but it costs quite a bit more to live and the girls there tend to be much less attractive compared to AZ >I'm thinking northern NV or Utah now
What's in northern NV? Utah could be good but I'd think non-Mormons would be like outcasts over there >Arizonans are very "hit and miss" behind the wheel.
yeah some of the worst driving I've ever seen. Unbelievable how much risk people are willing to take just to get somewhere a few secs earlier
>girls are less attractive in CO than AZ
wait, there are young women in Arizona? I always visited in winter and would see very few of them. But I was always van camping and didn't spend much time in the big cities. In Colorado, pretty and fashionable girls are a common sight in only a few destinations. Steamboat, Vail, Boulder, Manitou. Elsewhere, the girls are fit and tan, but they tend to dress modestly and simply, and I have found them sometimes flirty, but the few advances I make have been rebuffed. >non-Mormons would be outcasts in Utah
LDS meetinghouses always welcome visitors. You don't have to do much in the way of participation. Mormons are not Pentecostals, so they won't shove Jesus on you, ask if you are born again or want to be saved, etc. If you are moving to a heavily LDS area, I definitely recommend getting in with the Mormons. There are many "Jack Mormons" in Utah who are culturally Mormon but don't really believe the religion; they are not religious fanatics. With Utah's high birthrate and traditional culture, your dating opportunities will be better than in other states if you are willing to embrace the trad life.
>What's in northern NV?
Reno/Carson City area. Lots of mountains and deserts to explore. It's like a smaller Denver right now. Same kind of housing pressure but less big. Denver has more going on and a better climate though. Utah, I've heard is OK if you're not mormon if you stick to SLC metro areas or the tourist towns. The only real issue is jobs, mormons like hiring other mormons. Otherwise the mormons are kind of just npcs. They are polite but don't really involve you in their lives. I've heard sundays are awesome because you get to do fun things with non-mormons while they're all in church. The alcohol restrictions annoy me though... Good old Arizona, you can ride a quad down the street with a beer in your hand and a gun on your hip and nobody gives a shit.
Sundays can be extremely boring in LDS country. Everything closed, downtowns empty, everyone spends the day with their family.
>Colorado Springs is one of the more conservative big cities in America
I lived there during the fall season and it was awesome >wait, there are young women in Arizona?
Just around the big universities >your dating opportunities will be better than in other states if you are willing to embrace the trad life
Yeah I've dated a Mormon before and they're hot + trad. Not a bad trade, but it sucks if you're just dating and don't want to commit to marriage + kids. Also, she really pushed her entire family and religion onto me every date. Not sure if that's standard.
Arizona has 2 big universities, ASU and UofA. Both are huge, both still are heavily into the "greek life" thing which attracts whorish daddymoney white girls from all over the US, many of whom go there literally so they can spend more time by the pool and be a ho without their parents noticing. If you go anywhere in AZ during ASU spring break there's a shit ton of hot young women out and about.
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Where's the equivalent for hot young women that aren't whorish daddmoney types?
I've been asking myself this question too. Everytime I do a trip to Phoenix I get way more likes on dating apps. Everyone I know complains about Tucson dating as a man. Is Phoenix better?
Never had issues dating in Tucson, but I have found it easier to meet strangers in Phoenix when out in clubs and such. It might also depend on where you go. Tempe is going to be a similar circumstance as it only has ASU and Scottsdale is rough from what I've seen unless you have a ton of money to flash around. I don't know quite enough to really comment accurately though
Where do you meet girls? I feel like the only women I've mey who aren't fat el goblinos are college students and I feel weird hanging around the college.
through friends, classes, clubs, concerts, grocery stores, or dating apps. Just need to go out a lot as it all comes down to being in the right place, right time, and having fun with people/starting conversations.
Arizona is not meant for human habitation. Leave.
where do you recommend? I'm only here to be close enough to commute to my family every few weeks
what do you expect to get out of phoenix that you cant get out of tucson?
Just more bang for my buck in terms of things to do. Maybe more amateur sports leagues to join, concerts or music festivals, parties, classes or workshops in stuff I’m interested in, gyms to try out, clubs or groups to be a part of etc.
I graduated from the University of Arizona and it seems there's nothing to do outside of college here besides retiring as a rich boomer in the Catalina Foothills area.
This nails it
. Tucson is smaller and a little cooler than Phx but its not very interesting and its far from everything and its full of only 3 kinds of people- boomers, beaners and college students. If you're not one of those you're kind of out of place and its also pretty ghetto.
Phoenix has gotten to be so overdeveloped though. It's like LA in the desert now and almost as expensive. It gets hotter every year. I'm considering moving out of state entirely.
Might be for the best honestly, Im from AZ too, lots of things to love about this state but I dunno about staying here. Unique landscape, generally nice climate aside from summer, some nice outdoor activities, on the other hand though there's frick all to do outside of downtown areas, everythings sprawled out into a big strip malls, housing is overpriced, people are hit and miss...
Phoenix has changed a lot in recent years. Downtown PHX used to be only office space, completely dead after 5 PM except for the bums. Phoenix also used to be one of the most affordable major cities in America. Now I heard it's become hip and expensive. The sprawl surrounding the city is disgusting, as is the traffic. Soon the entire metro will be drinking their own sewage due to Colorado River cutbacks.
>people are hit and miss
Arizonans are perhaps the least friendly people of any American state, both face to face and behind the wheel. Even Mbuttholes are nicer.
You must be thinking of New Mexico. Arizona is far from a great state, but it still has plenty of growth and opportunities for success.
Where do you recommend instead? I play some gigs as a DJ in Downtown Phoenix. I used to also play in Tucson but compared to that place, Phoenix is a step up
>Arizonans are perhaps the least friendly people of any American state
I tend to agree. I've lived in a lot of places and idk why but AZ people are least likely to even smile or say hello when at a park or whatever. Overall most people outside of college kids tend to be miserable.
>Was thinking Colorado but now its become pozzed.
Used to live in CO and it's a beautiful place to be but it costs quite a bit more to live and the girls there tend to be much less attractive compared to AZ
>I'm thinking northern NV or Utah now
What's in northern NV? Utah could be good but I'd think non-Mormons would be like outcasts over there
>Arizonans are very "hit and miss" behind the wheel.
yeah some of the worst driving I've ever seen. Unbelievable how much risk people are willing to take just to get somewhere a few secs earlier
>What's in northern NV?
Reno/Carson City area. Lots of mountains and deserts to explore. It's like a smaller Denver right now. Same kind of housing pressure but less big. Denver has more going on and a better climate though. Utah, I've heard is OK if you're not mormon if you stick to SLC metro areas or the tourist towns. The only real issue is jobs, mormons like hiring other mormons. Otherwise the mormons are kind of just npcs. They are polite but don't really involve you in their lives. I've heard sundays are awesome because you get to do fun things with non-mormons while they're all in church. The alcohol restrictions annoy me though... Good old Arizona, you can ride a quad down the street with a beer in your hand and a gun on your hip and nobody gives a shit.
ok bye you won't be missed.
being this defensive reveals your insecurity
nah. just trying to give you some motivation. but you will ever leave and everybody knows it. The SW is like a glue trap for losers
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dunno, my new job has a lot of domestic travel so I suppose I'll sample what other places are like and see what I gravitate towards.
>my new job has a lot of domestic travel
what kind of job is that? I actually work remote and sometimes will share an airbnb with a buddy or girl somewhere around the country for fun and go to a concert or an event like the U.S. Open
I sell cumrag cleaning services with my mouth
Project engineer. I probably won't have much time to enjoy the area since the work will keep me busy but Ill get a feel for the climate at least.
Where are you guys considering moving to? I've been in AZ my whole adult life. Moved out here since San Diego became too expensive for my family
Was thinking Colorado but now its become pozzed. I don't really want to leave the SW for a flat state. I can't do that kind of lifestyle that doesn't include outdoor things. I'm thinking northern NV or Utah now.
>behind the wheel
Arizonans are very "hit and miss" behind the wheel. I've never been anywhere else where witnessing fender benders is such a common occurrence to where I see it almost daily or where being rear ended or sideswiped has happened more than one time to a person. Between mexicans, 99 year olds driving a big american boat around well under the speed limit, and meth heads driving a barely operable 90s shitbox with broken a/c or riding a clapped out Harley the driving is awful especially in the summertime when people to get impatient to get where they're going as their ride isn't comfortable.
Colorado Springs is one of the more conservative big cities in America. Manitou Springs is next door but very different, it makes a great quirky escape from suburbia. And beyond are miles and miles of mountains.
Arguably, Colorado Springs has a better climate than Reno. Reno gets all its clouds and bad weather in the cold months, while summers are parched and hotter than hell under full sun. The Springs has a relatively dry winter, and summers usually bring cooling afternoon showers, though hot dry spells do occur. Both cities see shitty spring weather.
>girls are less attractive in CO than AZ
wait, there are young women in Arizona? I always visited in winter and would see very few of them. But I was always van camping and didn't spend much time in the big cities. In Colorado, pretty and fashionable girls are a common sight in only a few destinations. Steamboat, Vail, Boulder, Manitou. Elsewhere, the girls are fit and tan, but they tend to dress modestly and simply, and I have found them sometimes flirty, but the few advances I make have been rebuffed.
>non-Mormons would be outcasts in Utah
LDS meetinghouses always welcome visitors. You don't have to do much in the way of participation. Mormons are not Pentecostals, so they won't shove Jesus on you, ask if you are born again or want to be saved, etc. If you are moving to a heavily LDS area, I definitely recommend getting in with the Mormons. There are many "Jack Mormons" in Utah who are culturally Mormon but don't really believe the religion; they are not religious fanatics. With Utah's high birthrate and traditional culture, your dating opportunities will be better than in other states if you are willing to embrace the trad life.
Sundays can be extremely boring in LDS country. Everything closed, downtowns empty, everyone spends the day with their family.
>Colorado Springs is one of the more conservative big cities in America
I lived there during the fall season and it was awesome
>wait, there are young women in Arizona?
Just around the big universities
>your dating opportunities will be better than in other states if you are willing to embrace the trad life
Yeah I've dated a Mormon before and they're hot + trad. Not a bad trade, but it sucks if you're just dating and don't want to commit to marriage + kids. Also, she really pushed her entire family and religion onto me every date. Not sure if that's standard.
Arizona has 2 big universities, ASU and UofA. Both are huge, both still are heavily into the "greek life" thing which attracts whorish daddymoney white girls from all over the US, many of whom go there literally so they can spend more time by the pool and be a ho without their parents noticing. If you go anywhere in AZ during ASU spring break there's a shit ton of hot young women out and about.
Where's the equivalent for hot young women that aren't whorish daddmoney types?
I've been asking myself this question too. Everytime I do a trip to Phoenix I get way more likes on dating apps. Everyone I know complains about Tucson dating as a man. Is Phoenix better?
Never had issues dating in Tucson, but I have found it easier to meet strangers in Phoenix when out in clubs and such. It might also depend on where you go. Tempe is going to be a similar circumstance as it only has ASU and Scottsdale is rough from what I've seen unless you have a ton of money to flash around. I don't know quite enough to really comment accurately though
Where do you meet girls? I feel like the only women I've mey who aren't fat el goblinos are college students and I feel weird hanging around the college.
through friends, classes, clubs, concerts, grocery stores, or dating apps. Just need to go out a lot as it all comes down to being in the right place, right time, and having fun with people/starting conversations.