Is there still good seasonal work to be found in the states? Is a neo-hobo lifestyle possible?
Is there still good seasonal work to be found in the states? Is a neo-hobo lifestyle possible?
Is there still good seasonal work to be found in the states? Is a neo-hobo lifestyle possible?
I think it all goes to the million illegal immigrants who walk in every year
I used to river guide in the summer, and ski patrol in the winter.
There’s a lot of shit like this out there, especially if you’re decent with people and like the outdoors. I was a liftie in the winter, mountain bike guide/instructor during the summer, and I’d pick up odd jobs like landscaping or moving in between
Yeah there literally tons and tons of day labor jobs on Craigslist.
as this anon said just go on craigslist and Facebook marketplace there are tons of day labor jobs on there.
Those jobs are gay af
What I mean is working something that will make you a buff giga chad like, 14 hours making 1000 bucks a day laying fence down on the open range, or fishing crab of the AK coast for 120k the rest of the year after a few hauls, or working as a bartender where you'll pick up chicks nightly. I'm not really muscular but I am a hard worker if it's something that isn't pozzed shit, so I could do basically anything in that regards.
only the top one sounds cool but I here on pol it's days away from exploding or something
A good day laborer doing odd jobs can clear $2000 a day.
Vast majority will struggle to touch $200. Probably half only net $100.
The money is really out there, but you have to be a top tier kind of human which is very unlikely for people pursuing this type of lifestyle.
if you have a laptop and a car you can make a raingutter cleaning business on the west coast and make 6 figures out of your car after you get a few clientele. poaching HOAs and larger buildings requires more equipment but obviously makes
hard part is starting it up but if you're fluent in English and not completely autistic you just need to be reliable and responsible enough to work everything out
>dude shut up you can't make 6 figures doing that
You can, easily.
>what about the million illegal immigrants
They don't speak enough English to do the whole operation solo and the operation doesn't scale. As soon as someone knows how to do it there's zero reason to work for someone else instead of doing it for yourself. The margins are too ridiculous.
>Don't you need specialized equipment?
You need a hose, a sprayer head, and a ladder, maybe a rake / push broom if you want to keep things tidy. Plug the hose into their water supply and spray the shit out, spread it over the lawn so it decomposes or trashbag it. You can buy and return the necessary items from/to Home Depot with no questions asked regardless of item condition.
>But how do you make so much money? Are you working constantly?
Charge a lot per house. at minimum 200 bucks. This is an infrequent expense paid for by nerds and old people who have more money than they know what to do with.
>1000 bucks a day
>outside work
See above.
This is just one of the many things you can do for this type of money, my advice is to have as many skills as possible.
Traveling, to an extent, does limit earning potential. It also increases it. You need to find a balance. Being in the same areas for 3-6 months is the sweet spot I think. Not ideal for drifters, whom really wish to only spend a few days or weeks in an area.
Traveling salesmen make lots of money too. People literally do buy those 3000 dollar kirby vacuums.
wildland fire, some commercial fishing, sugar beet harvest
I definitely think wildland fire might be a good bet for me. I have a trail maintenance job lined up for the fall I think pursuing SighSee type jobs is what I'll go for.
-Cattle ranching like in YellowStone
-Work at an amusement park
-Mall Santa
-One of those YouTubers that lives in their car and mows free lawns for content
Literally whatever the crackheads do seasonally.
If you’re a pretty decent sport climber and have enough gear to take other people out you could easily make money just hanging around climbing gyms and offering to guide new people
Not inspector Fritz!
Commercial fishing bro checking in from the Bering sea
5 months of work will last me a year and a half of living a middle class lifestyle in the Philippines
Can you describe your work schedule and are you literally on your feet for 16 hours a day with zero breaks for 5 months? What do you do during your shift?
Deck schedule
8:30 am: wakeup/shower
9:00-10: coffee
10-11: Miscellaneous deck work
11-12: breakfast
12-1: haul back fishing gear
1-2: coffee break
2-3: help out in factory
3-4: coffee break
4-5: haul back fishing gear
5-6: Lunch
6-7: coffee break
7-8: help out in factory
8-9: shift change/coffee break
That's a normal day. My pay was 4900$ for a 11 day trip after taxes and ship store deductions (cigs/ soap etc)
You won't start out at that though..... newbies work in the factory 12 hours a day....15 min break every 3 hours, with a 30 minute meal. It's basic factory work....basically a meat packing factory. Easy to move up though. Starting pay is about 2500-3000 before taxes per trip which takes about 10-14 days depending.
Buffet meals every 6 hours and obviously you don't pay to live on the boat. Most of the guys are foreigners who live in Asia and Africa.
I'll make about 55,000$ for these 5 months after taxes and I'll frick off for the next 6 months. I live in Cebu Philippines.and.never once thought about going back to America except to work on the boat..
You'll stay in shape also.
Correction
*2500-3000 AFTER taxes* starting pay
When do they start the hiring process for newbies, March or so?
It depends on the company...You can apply at anytime really because different boats Fish at different times for different things. They have bottom boats, long liners, and pollock factory trawlers as the "big boy" lineup....more stability there. Seiners, gillnetters, and tenders are usually family run operation....very hit and miss...could be good or terrible depending
But for the pollock fishery (biggest fishery), the best time to apply is either October or February. The fishing seasons start in early January and mid May.....so applying a few months ahead of time will give you plenty of time to get your shit together. If you apply in the middle of the season they probably won't reply
They hire new people every single season, no experience required. Tons of dudes work for a season and then disappear overseas for a year or more.....they always need replacements every single year.
It's gonna be tough at first though if you're not used to working every single day though
Thanks. I am socially awkward and find it hard to make friends. What sort of social expectations are there? Is everyone boisterous and macho and chest bumping?
The good thing about this type of work is that after you successfully complete a contract, you're not obligated to do another. You can come back when you're ready. Lots of dudes have separate occupations....lots of farmers especially.
Note: If it's your first contract and you leave in the middle of the season for a non emergency (you're just tired ), you'll be blacklisted from the boat. Do it again and you're blacklisted from the company. If they catch you drinking on the first contract it's an automatic blacklist.....if they catch you after you've been on for a while, it's a suspension for a season....do it a second time its a blacklist.
It's an ideal job for travel because you have months to really enjoy your travels stress free as opposed to doing a work from home gig where you actually have to work year round, constantly checking your laptop
No experience or degree required, not even a HS diploma....just work ethic. You can start from the bottom and become a legit captain. Our captain now is 36....started off at the bottom...makes about 400k now
bro thats only 300 per day, are you stupid and poor or something?
See America is an evil satanic country where you have to accept massive debt in order to have any sort of prospect of a living wage that doesn't involve life altering labor.
IQ is 650% more definitive of job performance than a degree is.
So basically, we become indentured servants for something that is a completely arbitrary measure of nothing. We do this in order to not suffer impoverished lives of endless physical pain.
It's evil as evil can be. People defend this system. People protect and maintain this system.
T. IQlet
Cope more IQlet, IQ is definitevly correlated with ability to do more complex work. You are dumber than feminists and commies
reading comprehension is essential
>IQ is scored via spatial matrices and language knowledge
>Implying this has anything to do with vacuuming up resources provided by a regime that rewards specific sets of behavior
160 IQ is equally likely to be a homeless pants shitter as they are to be silicon valley tycoon
See: Diogenes / Plato
Yea I guess so brother
I live in the Philippines bro
You wanna pay 2000$ for an apartment in the city then be my guest. I left America and never looked back
I love my life, I have a tradwife that stays home and takes care of chickens and my beautiful daughter in a comfy $30,000 house that's paid for with solar panels ....my monthly expenses are about 500 dollars....and I get access to unlimited 20 year old Filipina chicks straight from the village.....fresh air, fresh food, fresh tight vegana, what more does a man need amirite?
Dead animals in massive quantity does nothing to your soul?
I felt bad gutting literally just one fish
that is probably because you’ve only gutted one fish
Nuh uh, like.. 4 or 5.
Try 6 gorrilian
Damn that’s pretty dope. Got any recs for companies? I already work 12 hours a day and I’m totally used to that
Google search Alaskan fishing jobs and go from there.
Trident seafoods
Glacier fish company
American seafoods company
North star fishing
Ocean peace
Fisherman's finest
Golden Alaska
Blue north
Silverbay seafoods
Artic storm
Northern hawk
O hara corporation
Alaska long liners
this would be dope if i didnt have the absolute worst motion sickness of anyone ive ever met.
It doesnt pay good but you can find it. You have to be socialiable these days though, everybody in America is a pussy so if you look scary their brain turns off immediately.
If you want wildland fire then you're golden. Work a whole season and you have a year's worth of pay for somebody living a vagrant lifestyle. I did this myself. Top tier.
Yes. I worked national park/rural resort jobs for several years (a few months a year) before landing a job with a small town golf course. Any region with a tourist economy has plenty of seasonal jobs, though housing can be very difficult to find. Get a minivan/SUV/pickup and set it up for camping just in case; that's what I did until I landed a cool apartment owned by my employer. Farmworker jobs are also doable - beet harvesting in the Upper Midwest, for example. coolworks dot com is one website that has many seasonal job listings that provide housing, usually dormitory.
Wildland firefighting is terrifically strenuous, but does pay very well and allows one to live as one pleases outside of fire season.
You are vastly overestimating the payscale of gig work. 1000 bucks a day for slamming a few posts into the ground and stringing some wire, LMAO. Ranchers aren't that rich. High demand low supply regions do pay more than the average, and working 40+ hours overtime per week does greatly augment paychecks. If you are self-employed and possess your own work gear, you can charge whatever the market will bear.
>Vast overestimate
Not reading the rest of your post. I said something that I know for a fact. You just don't know how to work or what work is. A licensed tradesman can make $5000 in a day in any part of America, after all other expenses.
>licensed tradesman
can mean a lot of different things, but usually not
>day laborer doing odd jobs
also,
>clear
is a lot harder than gross when you're on the hook for gas, materials, tools, etc
Oh you have truly no fricking idea. And yes, a day laborer doing odd jobs is also known as a HANDYMAN. You fricking idiot. You're a bum. You know nothing. You don't want to work. There are guys making $250 in 20 minutes cleaning out drains for old ladies and they work strictly by word of mouth. Ever waterproofed a basement? Installed an HVAC system? Wired fancy lighting? Installed a water heater? Fixed a roof? Windows? Doors? There are people that do this stuff all day every day and they make fricktons of cash. $2000 after all expenses is righteously and easily attainable by the chads that can use their hands. I listed like 1/10000 ways to make hundreds of dollars per hour, which means thousands at the end of the day. Someone with a license can double and triple that. You know HVAC salesmen do millions in sales per year?
And before you trip balls about this, because I know you are stupid, I already stated that this is the apex of what you can do, but people do it every day and anybody can get to that level provided they are men of their word and not alcoholics, like I said, probably half struggle to touch $100, a huge amount struggle for $200, but there are others who quickly become millionaires.
I've even seen it done in sub-3 years with tree work. 1 employee, the boss. Chainsaw, trailer, woodchipper, truck. Dude will walk away with thousands in cash every single day of his life and he has work booked out for months.
Nice LARP
Coping because you suck and can't sell a job with your handshake
Get a life loser
I literally run a chainsaw for a living and this is LARP, or at least an unrealistic extrapolation from the very best jobs and maybe the very best days to "every day of his life".
It's also so vague as to be inactionable and therefore bad advice, even after adjusting income expectations to more realistic levels. If OP already knew a trade and had potential clients lined up he wouldn't be asking us this shit in the first place.
Nobody regularly pulls 2k a day doing chains of handyman jobs. It's such a weird troll. Even finding enough jobs to sustain that income is probably impossible.
Even tree trimming / roof and drain cleaning and fungicide spraying is seasonal. It's just a dumb larp. 3k a week busting your ass during the summer is definitely possible
t. Low IQ people
I'm not even reading your posts. I don't care what you idiots think, I personally know 6 people that achieve this in a literal shithole. I could give a frick less about working that hard, but it's extremely easy to do if you have the correct personality and knowledge. You both quite simply have no concept of how to do this. That's fine. I have already announced that this is only for the 0.0001% of handymen. Almost everyone is sub $200 per day. For a reason. But that does not mean it is not readily attainable for the special people capable of it. In fact, I believe that tradesmen really shouldn't bother being tradesmen if they aren't "NBA tier", basically, some people can make a million dollars a year doing something that others can only make 20 grand a year doing. Some people are simply built fricking different. You folks are not. Neither am I. I have witnessed it A LOT, however. I am very close with people that really are this special kind of person.
Aside from these people, there is a concrete worker in my neighborhood with 3 dodge vipers. He probably sells steroids or something, but still.
Low IQ people take macho bragging as truth. They also respond to posts without reading them.
>Macho bragging
I stated something that is true for 0.0001% of a population. I even said I am not a part of this population. Guess what? Roughly all jobs have this distribution of successful people. I simply mentioned that it is attainable as a handyman. These anons were too insecure with that idea.
Idiot.
>for 0.0001% of a population
then it's probably not very pertinent to op, is it now
(still assuming, with considerable charity, that it isn't just completely fake)
More realistically it's .1%, I added zeroes to help massage your pathetic imaginations.
>informing people of possibilities isnt pertinent
You are ass bro, just ass.
okay, well, good luck to op should he try to make thousands in cash daily for the rest of his life by cleaning gutters through craigslist as a licensed tradesman. if that sounds reasonable to you I don't think either of us will get anything out of further conversation
Alright, gutters. That's seasonal. Using craigslist for this is not useful, you will not have the volume of work and you will only find people specifically seeking cheap work. You have no concept of how this works.
Find a wealthy area, be God fearing, do good work, hand out your number, socialize, the neighborhood is now yours.
Realistically, gutters is an auxillary to other work and is an extra charge for larger yard jobs you are doing.
Gutters alone a bad move, it does not exude a corpus of experience worthy of higher pay for quality work. It's a $50-$100 an hour generator, given a full schedule your max is sub-$1000. That is why is it an auxillary task, you can now charge more for it, as well you are already doing other jobs.
Thats 1 in 1000. That means not a single person on your block wpuld achieve that. To suggest this for anything would just make you stupid
Lmao. You are a massive pussy and your brain is bent towards being a b***h.
Does elucidating the extensiveness of a distribution not fricking motivate you? No, you aren't an NBA player, but frick maybe you can dunk a basketball. That puts you unironically pretty fricking close. That means you can fricking ball.
When the 4 minute mile was broken, all of the sudden tons of people could do it. But not you. You didnt improve at all. The limits of human achievement have no effect on you. Because you suck.
To make this even more clear.
The low end is $100 a day, the high end is $2000, it quickly becomes worth it beyond $200 per day. There is so much space in between that. Talent and hard work will throw you way past $200 even if you aren't the Michael Jordan of odd jobs. You are benefiting from the sheer scale of the bell curve here, dumbass.
And one final point. One I already made.
This is true for all jobs. All jobs have this distribution. So if you can't escape $100-$200 doing odd jobs, perhaps try a different path.
>A licensed tradesman can make $5000 in a day in any part of America
I've never read something more moronic
HVAC techs regularly do multiple full system installs per day.
Do you know how much one single system costs a customer? Above 10k. Do you know the material costs? Less than 3k. Do some math there, bozo. This is merely one example, this is pretty much the entirety of an HVAC business because pretty much nobody does repairs they just do new systems. HVAC salesmen do MILLIONS in sales per year.
Shut the frick up moron, you haven't worked a day in your life.
Lol. Lmao. Sounds like you're poor AND stupid!
There was in the federal and state parks or similar, but now it’s a jobs program for leftists, LGBT, and “people of color” just like the state department and every other government agency.
Let the system fail
Be a lumberjack.
what are some summer season construction jobs? i have office/paperwork and machine-technician experience and would like to avoid brute labor or straight office work... but im willing to take those jobs.
I would like to take winters off if even just for a month or three
Bro shitty jobs these days pay for food and gas that's about it, you have to fight forest fires or hop onto a fishing boat if you want money that will pay rent
summer landscaper
winter snowplower