Kazakhstan

Anyone ever travel here? Can an english speaking middle-american get by? I'm not a total goon but I can't hide what I am. No interest in hookups, just nature, architecture, maybe drinks with locals. If a girl took a shine to me that'd be cool but not seeking it.

I hear the nature is good, is there a hiking culture/marked trails?

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's really nice and cheap if you love nature
    and if you are from south korea or america, they will be kind to you
    because aouth korea and the us are well-liked countries by the central asians

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      south korea and the us*
      one thing to keep in mind is that you should never mention their religion in front of them
      they are a society nominally secular but still dominated by strong islamic law

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >should never mention their religion
        How so? I don't have a problem with islam generally speaking, esp so if I am a guest in their country. Only issue is if there are customs for guests I don't know. I'm a bit of a bumbling buffoon, though people usually seem to gather that I'm harmless & I mean well.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          some central asians tend to be defensive about their religious practices, and the other thing you have to remember is that the kazakhs and the uzbeks don't think very well of each other

          Nta but it doesnt seem that cheap. Maybe 900 a month for an airbnb. I heard that the oil money drives up prices.

          Maybe i need to be using a russian app for apartments and hotels instead?

          [...]
          Not a coomer, but I have heard they unironically still assault people in the street that are dating their women. Might be related to islam or might be related to mongolian culture. Not entirely sure

          i'm living in south korea
          in my neighbourhood, there are quite a lot of immigrants from kazakhstan, uzbekistan and mongolia
          in fact, if you are a white guy, if you flirt with a local woman in kazakhstan or uzbekistan, you can be assaulted by local men, unfortunately
          but if you're from south korea, they really don't care much about it
          i've heard that most kazakh parents are positive about their daughter's relationship with a korean man because we look alike and for historical reasons the reputation of koreans in central asia is really good

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Probably related to the Koryo Saram who are peacefully living in the former USSR for decades, in Kazakhstan they don't even stand out that much.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >if you are a white guy, if you flirt with a local woman in kazakhstan or uzbekistan, you can be assaulted by local men,
            wrong
            maybe in some village or smaller town but in the cities no one cares about stuff like this

            hell, I married a kazakh woman

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >i've heard that most kazakh parents are positive about their daughter's relationship with a korean man
            That's not true. I am from Singapore and currently dating a kazakh girl. Their parents approved of our relationship because the fact I told them I am a Muslim. Islam still plays a major role even if you don't practice the religion. As long you have a Muslim name, you're good.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >still dominated by strong islamic law
        not at all true
        not at all

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nta but it doesnt seem that cheap. Maybe 900 a month for an airbnb. I heard that the oil money drives up prices.

      Maybe i need to be using a russian app for apartments and hotels instead?

      south korea and the us*
      one thing to keep in mind is that you should never mention their religion in front of them
      they are a society nominally secular but still dominated by strong islamic law

      Not a coomer, but I have heard they unironically still assault people in the street that are dating their women. Might be related to islam or might be related to mongolian culture. Not entirely sure

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      +1 to liking americans. Kazakhs are amazingly kind people. I was invited to a guy's wedding as a guest of honor simply because i sat next to him on an air astana flight.

      The country is also extremely interesting. It's a fleetingly rare example of a post-soviet country that hasn't fully embraced the west, but is still friendly to western people. Lots of very interesting things to checkout if you enjoy soviet and kazakh history.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >very interesting things to checkout if you enjoy soviet and kazakh history.
        share some examples please. I don't know the first thing about their history but i'm interested now.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        In my opinion, people in Central Asia believe that getting close to capitalist First World countries like S.Korea and USA will help their countries develop. Russia wants to continue its influence in the region, but educated people and young people know how poor and terrible Russia is.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >educated people
          What a fancy way of saying "shitlibs"

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think Kazakhstan has shitlibs.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              If they are pro-west they are. The West is globohomo. If any Kazakh actually wants Kazakhstan to go that route, then they are by definition a libshit

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Went biking from Almaty through Turgen gorge, past Skazka canyon and the Kaindy and Kolsay lakes before crossing back into Kyrgyzstan through the Karkara border. Thoroughly enjoyed it, amazingly diverse scenery and very friendly people. Glad I speak very basic Russian as this made interactions with locals way more fun.

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Dude no one gives shit about a literal about some basedslop american. You'll get no pussy in that country just like you don't get any pussy in the US

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Greetings
    From
    Kazakhstan

    God I hate women

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can get by with yandex translate, there's actually quiet a lot to see. Through relatively untravelled by westerners the Russians know the territory well

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Interested in nature. Any good hikes, I know the mountains are great.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    in cities English will work for you but like most places using the local language is really good
    Kazakhs are friendly, safe place
    city life is modern enough and comfortable
    smaller towns and rural are more of your adventure tourism
    architecture there sucks: limited old and interesting stuff, plenty of soviet stack a prole crap, and lots of more money than taste in the new parts
    food is good: lamb and horse with rice or noodles
    white foreigners will get attention from local girls but they won't throw themselves at you

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just came back from there like a week ago. You're better off going to Krygyzstan for its nature. Kazakhstan is flat, just like their women.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >just like their women.
      I thought they were hot

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        They are. Just don't expect them to be voluptuous in the butt and breasts department.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Same for pretty much any other Asian women.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I noticed the trad chicks have fat asses but they are also conservative and not into casual sex

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            What are you talking about? Kazakhstan is the most secular among all the stan countries. You can find WGs in clubs after 12

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Kazakhstan is the most secular among all the stan countries
              The people there are still overwhelmingly conservative though. It's not the US where conservative = religious fundamentalist.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I know that

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Much love from Kazakhstan

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    When I worked in Baikonur, I noticed that the Kazakh cared about the quality of their work; Russians? Not so much.

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am from Germany and I found my wife there. She looks like a Japanese woman but taller and less autistic. Her parents are secular muslims and they value family a lot. The country has a lot of nature. I would recommend Almaty to everyone but it is starting to get infested by American degeneracy and Kpop shit.
    The rest is hard to navigate without knowing Russian.
    The food is also kinda dry and not for everyone.
    It's a nice place but a not must visit. If you into Turkish culture then give it a go but I would recommend Uzebikstan much more when it comes to traditional culture. If you wanna have fun and enjoy yourself like a westerngay than Almaty is perfect for you.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >recommends Almaty
      >posts Astana
      Both cities are worth visiting, but only Almaty is worth staying for longer.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, the picture is in Astana but I would not recommend it since it is very commercial except for people who are into architecture.

        How did you meet your wife in Almaty? Through work?
        I am kazakh and I want a wife from my own country

        I met my wife through work since I am an urban engineer and she was a translator. I don't know how to get women in Kazakhstan but the siblings of my wife married quiet young at around 23 /26. I think you just need to put yourself out there and ask some people out. Of course you won't find a trad girl in malls, bars or clubs. I dont know your age either so I dont know if I can help.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      How did you meet your wife in Almaty? Through work?
      I am kazakh and I want a wife from my own country

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    yes they are thin and pretty. go to a russian massage parlor half the women are kazhak

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kazakhstan isn’t worth it.
    I’ve been to Almaty (shared taxi from Bishkek) then proceeded to take a 2 to 3 day train up to novosibirsk. After visiting Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan was disappointing.
    >1) it’s extremely expensive, basic dorm cot in 2007 was $40 US and the building was shit
    >2) everyone there is far richer than the traveler, it’s like Switzerland or Luxembourg tier. The official stats don’t do justice to just how rich of a country it is. It’s like Azerbaijan.
    Uzbekistan is way better. It’s insanely cheap and there are a multitude of sights and attractions. Kyrgyzstan looks like Switzerland geographically, but is far poorer and doesn’t have much going for it in terms of creature comfort and amenities. Hiking is way, WAY better in Kyrgyzstan. 45 minutes south of Bishkek on a minibus and you are in Ala Archa national park, all alone in groves of perfectly triangular pines (or spruce or cedar or some shit) and just boundless meadows of wildflowers bordering cool, brisk-flowing brooks of meltwater you can literally dip your face in and slurp. 45 MINUTES OUT OF THE CITY ON A DIRECT MINIBUS. Double entry visa for Kazakhstan is ridiculous so if you want to know what I’m talking about and you start your journey in Kazakhstan you’re fricked. Best start in Tashkent, get the overnight train to Nukus, then work your way back to Osh, Kyrgyzstan via the Fergana valley. From Osh you can take a shared taxi to Bishkek, then from Bishkek visit Ala Archa and work your way around the big lake via Cholpon Ata for a dip in the lake, and then go up the Altyn Arashan valley for some hiking. Make your way back to Bishkek, then it’s a couple hours drive in a shared taxi to Almaty.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >basic dorm cot in 2007 was $40 US and the building was shit
      I paid €9 for a dorm cot this summer, nice building with normal facilities.
      >Double entry visa for Kazakhstan is ridiculous
      No longer required for EU and US citizens for visits up to 30 days, for a total of 57 nationalities apparently. I got stamped in without issues at the border.

      Sure, as far as history goes Uzbekistan can't be beaten in Central Asia, and as far as nature goes Kyrgyzstan objectively has more to offer. That said I feel you paint an overly negative picture. Southern Kazakhstan in itself is a destination worth visiting. Within 24 hours of biking, I rode through mountain forests, alpine meadows with snow-capped peaks and nomads in their summers yurts, through something close to badlands, into a wide open steppe to end up in a canyon, all within reach of Almaty. As far as variety within a single day of biking goes, that's borderline impossible to beat. Not to mention that doesn't even include some of the highlights in the area, and to top it off the hospitality is at the for Central Asia normal off the charts level. Would recommend honestly, especially if you manage to combine it with Uzbekistan and/or Kyrgyzstan.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >2) everyone there is far richer than the traveler, it’s like Switzerland or Luxembourg tier. The official stats don’t do justice to just how rich of a country it is. It’s like Azerbaijan.
      incorrect

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he needs a visa for Kazakhstan or any *stan that isn't Uzbekistan
      Thirdie or burger detected.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >that isn't Turkmenistan
        derp'd

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >you mean femine, family oriented, and that direction, then you're talking about almost all of them
    I just want to find one that would be able to adapt to the west. The women I met so far, just feel like their life would be worse in the west because they have such close relationships with their friends, family and relatives, living across the world would be hard for them. Need someone that can assimilate well

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most Kazakh would not fit into the west if not born there. Also its much cheaper in Kazakhstan and quality of life is pretty solid there and if you are of their origin wouldn't you want to be around your own people? Try and look for remote job or start a business in Kazakhstan instead of wanting to bring someone over to the west.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      don't listen to this guy

      Most Kazakh would not fit into the west if not born there. Also its much cheaper in Kazakhstan and quality of life is pretty solid there and if you are of their origin wouldn't you want to be around your own people? Try and look for remote job or start a business in Kazakhstan instead of wanting to bring someone over to the west.

      finding a wife is not mail order thing
      no country is good for that
      son, finding a wife is a one on one thing
      the different cultures part can be great or a problem, it depends on you two
      going at it with a "I gotta get a jap" or a kazkah is just a way wrong approach

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >going at it with a "I gotta get a jap" or a kazkah is just a way wrong approach
        You're right, finding the right wife depends on finding the person that fits you.
        but am I crazy if I want to keep my bloodline within my ethnicity?

        also to keep this travel related, what is the cheapest route to get to NA to Central Asia ?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          via Turkey (Istanbul, Ankara, Antalya), especially if you're fine with changing airports and not picky where in Central Asia you'll land

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >am I crazy if I want to keep my bloodline within my ethnicity?
          no, not crazy, but wow..

          >also to keep this travel related, what is the cheapest route to get to NA to Central Asia ?
          turkish via istanbul

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          This

          via Turkey (Istanbul, Ankara, Antalya), especially if you're fine with changing airports and not picky where in Central Asia you'll land

          but also quickly check Air Astana to see if they have any deals.

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    old, old view
    in a village, if you look, you'll find her
    more in Taj or Uzb
    but as a foreigner absolutely not
    she and her family will have very much heightened expectations, that you're going to change all their lives
    lol all you want but your post is unconnected to reality

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