Korea introduces digital nomad visa
requires $66k income
valid for 2 years
https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2023-12-29/national/kcampus/Korea-to-welcome-digital-nomads-with-new-visa-starting-Jan-1/1947155
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>requires $66k income
europoors absolutely BTFO
>he thinks 66k is a lot out side the US
Based zoomer keeping the board youthful
>50% tax to feed and house future nafri doctors and astronauts
oof
To add to this. People think countries outside of america are cheaper. It's not. If you want the standards of an american. You'll pay the prices of ab american. With that said. 66k yearly equivalent income should still propel you to local lord levels in whatever small village you decide to live in. With brick houses same as your neighbours.
Local lord within a couple of decades i meant. 4 within a capital city. 2 in small cities.
Doesn't mean shit if a natural disaster hits though. There goes all your slum lord wealth in a tornado.
I'm renting a condo in Makati for only $500 a month. It has a gym, a pool, air conditioning, and we eat out many multiples of times per week.
It's hilarious you think that you need to spend high amounts to live an american quality of life. I live like a King here. The same would be true if we went to Gyenongju or however you spell the city.
btfo'd
Lol you are so out of touch of the struggles of an American. Everything is shit over there at a premium price. A lot of people live better than the average American but few make as much as the average American
Who allowed you to speak, brownoid.
are you people joking? I stayed in Downtown Tokyo for cheaper than some shitty suburb in US. A decent (tiny) hotel in Tokyo is like 30$; thats cheaper than a bug infested motel 6 here.
Spaniard here, I am in one of the poorest countries in the EU and I make more than that. It's not a particularly impressive salary.
Average wage in Spain is 1500 euros a month. Appreciate you chiming in how your different, you little fricking snowflake.
sure, but it's not so trivial either
>115k
You're forgetting the average american has 5000/mo student and medical loan debt, 2000/mo for rent, 1500/mo for food, 1000/mo for car+1000/gas because no transportation, 2000/mo for credit card debt. They are lucky to come out traveling at all.
Most people don't pay over 500 for a medical insurance, and a couple for loans. Why don't you go back to Tiktok and shake your ass for attention there.
Oh damn I am sorry. I should have said $1000/mo student loans, $400/mo food, $200/mo car insurance, $200/mo gas (don't fricking cope, a gallon is almost fricking $3 in most states) $1000/mo rent provided you live in a sleeper town around a relevant area with jobs, at least 20% income taxes, and the usual $300/mo credit card debt you shartinmarts to pay for your copemobiles, your copelevision, your copephone and all that other crap you love consooming.
But yeah bro, living in the US is so le cheap bro, just make $500K starting bro, it's easy bro.
Average American has 300 dollars a month in student loan. And that's skewed higher as a result of advanced degrees like doctors and Lawyers. SWEs will have less on average. Not sure why you feel the need to lie about this.
>a couple for loans
what if i told you i pay 0 in loans
the point is that they can easily qualify for the visa which this thread is about. go seethe about America in your containment threads on SighSee
Sorry, there just isn't anything to discuss about a visa. It's all black and white. So stop acting like your not here to waste time.
intgays think that America is a wonderland where everone makes 300k+ and lives on a traditional southern plantation estate
No, 115k in the US is pretty good. You greatly exaggerate that one. And, hey, I know you're making a joke, but it's also not that bad.
Highly dependent on where you live and number of dependants. If you're single, and you don't live on the west coast or the northeast, you're in a comfortable spot.
>tfw I as a third worlder SWE earn the same as a Nordic SWE
Holy fricking shit it's so over for nordcucks.
To be far to nordcucks, they have near unparalleled job security
Not only job security, they have far more public security than your average third world shit hole, therefore they're safer* (* for the most part)
Wonder why Korea set the bar at $66k
High enough to keep the undesirable weirdo sexpats who shit up Colombia & Dominican Republic out, low enough to get in professionals with money to spend.
>inb4 people with money sexpat too durrr
that's bullshit
Average salaries don't mean shit. OK so some boomer makes $300K a year and some new pleb makes $80K starting out. Oh lookie what a high average. Lol, fricking moron. Median, median, median, median, median, median salaries are what matters.
LOL what are you talking about moron
5K+ monthly anywhere outside of germany is completely insane in EU
but it's true tho, yuropoors are gonna be btfo'd more than americhads
I'm far from rich but that's not far from what I make if we're talking gross salary, before tax and mandatory social contributions (health and retirement systems mainly).
90% of Thailand general posters seethe about paying a few thousand a year for a golden visa, this board is full of poorgays
Golden visa in Thailand is tens of thousands of dollars now, just for five years at the lowest theshold in a developing country like Thailand. Yes, people are complaining, because theyre not fricking morons with their money.
>Digital nomad living in Korea vlogs suddenly stop
SK is so fricked, you would think they would be scrambling to get Asian and White people in there to procreate.
I'd single-dickedly solve their fertility crisis
Sheer arrogance will be their downfall. They're not looking so well in the births department.
That's probably what they're trying to do with this policy, kek.
>Verification not required.
Just left SK, great place but people explained to me that there's a very anti-child culture there. Not anti-child per se but there's a stigma associated with falling behind in your career because of the responsibility of being a mother. Will take heavy incentives to change.
About 3 years late. Colombia did the same shit right as Covid was ending and Colombia is in an economic death spiral.
Naturally as an American, I don't understand these third world shitholes not having an open arms policy towards anyone that can afford the flight there.
Worst yet is the elitist attitude like Colombia (It's a fricking shithole in terminal decline), here with SK, and the ever-arrogant Thai thinking their fricking dump countries are some dreamscape. Mexico is just as bad now too.
Worst case do like the Thai and ask to see a grand in cash before they stamp the passport, that filters out the literal poors. What the frick is there to do in SK other than see the autism lights in Seoul and eat bad BBQ?
>What the frick is there to do in SK other than see the autism lights in Seoul and eat bad BBQ?
I'd tell you but then I'd be banned.
Based, it's actually the best thing to do in SK.
Talking about cooming isn't bannable is it?
Have you been in a coma for the last few months?
I haven't been on SighSee in a few months yeah
Korea is literally the hardest country for that.
Used to be easier until real estate market exploded and all the usual districts got bulldozed and turned into Lotte Castle.
>What the frick is there to do in SK other than see the autism lights in Seoul and eat bad BBQ?
Complement SK girls on their english and instantly make them wet
Clubs and bars are dirt cheap, if you're making 66k and DN in Korea you will be living like the top 10% in feeling.
Actually have the ability to focus on work while living stupidly cheap, talking <400 for a furnished apartment per month
Jeju is fricking GOAT in summer not shat up by fat weebs
The only thing that sucks about Korea is much of the fun things to do aren't expressed or advertised as much like say Japan does for that sweet foreign $$.
>talking <400 for a furnished apartment per month
where and how?
Airbnb, I just stayed a month for ~320, before that a month was ~350 by Korea University. Seriously not hard if you book ahead, staying outside Seoul usually drops shit way more, but you often lose shit to do. Busan is great if you can aim for it.
Stop lying. It's not that cheap. In fact I challenge you to link a decent airbnb at double that price for an ENTIRE APARTMENT.
Not a single room living like a student loser.
You need $1000 minimum to have a place you can bring girls over to.
just some random place I found, do your own looking around and book early for deals.
that looks like a prison cell.
I wouldn't sleep on that bed if you paid me, it's in a really bad area and no girl is going to come over to that place lmao.
Called it, knew this shit would result in backtracking "well uhhh no ahcktually!" bullshit
> it's in a really bad area and no girl is going to come over to that place lmao.
it's 5 minutes from a main train stop, how is that a "bad area" unless you're living on texas street you're fine. Busan is really hard to get a sketch area unless you just want to b***h
>Again I don't see how it's so "cheap" when you get more for your $ in any neighboring country.
The original point was that I can get an apartment for <350, I just pulled 2 examples at random since I am waiting for laundry to be done. I didn't look all that hard but airbnb isn't an exclusive club. If you spent a 100 or so more you can easily get more. No shit the rooms are small, back home in the US I get a 895 sq ft 2br place for 680/mo that I split with a roommate to watch my shit. Of course other places can win but I'm not in a lease when abroad nor do I care to do all that paperwork.
>no girl is going to come over to that place lmao.
Yeah I take it you've never seen the inside of a girls place in asia then. Also, why not just use a love hotel instead, they are so piss cheap that is a good go to for one nighters. Alternatively go to their place.
>At this point I would rather just pay $1500 for a tokyo apt.
If you went to500-1000 in korea you'd get some apartments in high rises, by all means go blow 1k/mo on an apartment. Not my job to baby sit you so you can constantly move goalposts. I simply proved you talking out of your ass not knowing how cheap korea is for a apartment, studio's are apartments.
I'm not moving any goalposts, I said "decent" airbnb at double the price of your original place.
I also said not a single room living like a loser.
The places you posted are depressing.
At that point I would rather sleep in a capsule hotel.
Those look decent to me for the price if I were to digital nomad, 300 bucks is chump change for something like that. Why not post what you consider decent then anon?
bro there is not even a chair it is literally a prison cell
>no girl is going to come over to that place lmao.
Just having an apartment in your 20's puts you at the top in Korea
noooo $1000 a month how will I possibly cope
here's another one, didn't realize my last one was in Busan since that's my next booking. This is in Seoul.
>inb4 "a studio apartment isn't an apartment!" shit
that's a room not an entire place.
Again I don't see how it's so "cheap" when you get more for your $ in any neighboring country. At this point I would rather just pay $1500 for a tokyo apt.
lol This is the basement type of shit from Parasite. Window? Who needs that?! Well, enjoy.
I believe they refer to these as a Mansion lol. Just bring over a bunch of money to serve as key money and you can get a practical apartment anywhere with not much rent. There are loads of apartments that although are cozy are much better than this death trap shit.
Most places in Korea allow you to just walk on the roof, so not having a window isn't really that big of a deal. Besides could work in your favor as to not have outside sounds clog up a meeting call.
Yes, having natural lighting in your room is a big deal, especially if you are going to be indoors most of the day.
Why would you be in doors during the day outside some sleeping? Unless you are from australia, the timezone difference would generally have you working at night. I'm from the US and working 12PM->7AM was my ideal schedule but would often snooze a bit after 4AM and meetings were done, then I'd just be out and about from 8AM->5PM before getting home and sleeping a bit before work.
Anon, if you look at the window in your second place in Seoul, you can clearly tell it's 반지하 (Half-Basement apartment)
There is a reason why it's so cheap, and honestly you should NEVER take one of these studios.
If heavy rain/flood ever comes (which during the summer in seoul there's usually one week with major flooding) your studio is basically fricked and everything will be waterlogged.
And even if it's not flooding, i lived in one of those apartments before, and i went away for two weeks during the summer to another country, when i came back the walls, my sheets, fricking everything had tons of mold growing on it, you MUST have a dehumifider on 24/7.
With Seoul, prices really do depend on where you live, rent is actually not terrible for decent studios, but they usually come with large deposits (min $4000-5000 USD).
There's also Goshiwon or Oneroomtels which are alot more affordable with no or very miniscule deposit needed, and some of them can actually be pretty decent, but usually you can't bring girls over, you can't really cook anything, and the walls are really thin.
But that's just Seoul though, Busan is alot better and alot more affordable, you can get a beachview studio on Haeundae for like 300 bucks a month with like $1000 deposit... now the issue there is how fricking racist the busan nightlife scene is lol....
homie the frick you on about anon was just showing a studio is possible for under 400 dollars. You going about this like you're moving in with a gf not just doing a digital nomad 1 year fun adventure
Even alot of koreans wouldnt wanna move into that kinda place, like they specifically warned me not to.
But yeah if you're only going to be staying there for a month I guess it doesnt matter
>now the issue there is how fricking racist the busan nightlife scene is lol....
I only went to one club but when I went I met a Korean guy who could speak basic English. He lost his virginity in my country so I was basically his best friend by virtue of my birthplace. We chilled and then he took me to a KTV if you understand what I'm saying. It was pretty alright.
Also there were quite a few Russian guys at the club.
Anon be like
>I got a cheap places around Korea to Digital Nomad in it was fine here are a few examples I quickly found off the cuff at those price points
Everyone else
>wtf that's not what *I* call an apartment or that I would want! Did you know in Thaliand or other country I can get that? If I spent over that I could get more in Tokyo if I paid more lol shit place lol.
Like anon said he got a cheap place to focus on work and that makes sense for a digital nomad which is what the visa is for. You all are focus on like the dumbest shit sometimes, if you want a pussy rated apartment spend 200-300 extra for an actual furnished place in Soeul to bring women back to. Everyone knows that you can get better if you pay more or go to a cheaper country. Not sure why Digital Nomad living abroad threads have to be a pissing match about housing.
Pajeet, any real digital nomad is not going to live in a prison cell like that. I don't know exactly how anyone would "focus" in an apartment with a shitty bed and no furniture.
I actually stayed in a place like that for about 3 months, not the same place but who would stay in the same apartment for more than 30-45 days when you are a digital nomad. Go out and see some different shit. In terms of focusing, it's pretty easy compared to some places I've been fricked into working abroad with. If you were WFH during covid this is a no brainer.
>I don't know exactly how anyone would "focus" in an apartment with a shitty bed and no furniture.
Because I worked in an office before and understand it's still better than that. Seems to have a computer desk in it for working, bed for chilling, fridge for some food, and bathroom. I'd rather live economically so I have more spending money on my next country or just in general spending money for the weekends than "wow I got a sofa I don't use". As others have pointed out you could spend 200 extra a month and heavily upgrade. Just depends where you set most of your value in.
How, it's the same shit as working from home you're just paying transportation costs to work abroad.
>How, it's the same shit as working from home you're just paying transportation costs to work abroad.
Work from home is stable, whereas being abroad means you're at the mercy of a decent internet connection, the timezone and being easily contactable.
>korea
>not stable internet
Bruh that shit's more solid than most US places. Also what is hotspotting? This isn't SEA where you have to question if power will remain constant throughout the night.
>who would stay in the same apartment for more than 30-45 days when you are a digital nomad.
me, who's been doing it for over half a decade now
living out of a bag is no way to live, you find a good place as a base to keep your stuff and then travel around with carryon as you see fit
Good thing I have a place back in america. Living out of a carry on+backpack isn't hard unless you simply do not understand how to pack
>doesn't understand the concept of leasing
I get six years of capital gains tax exemption renting my house in Australia, it pulls in 3x the rent I pay Asia for a much nicer place
That's great dude I make enough to not have to try and jump exemptions, besides I need to be back in the US parts of the year. Leasing out a room for a house that generates money is more feasible to some folks. I'll stick with doing 1-2 month airbnb's if it means I don't have deal with kim-dongsuc
That's great you do it that way, personally I agree with some others staying in a single place more than a month is just meh. I'd get bored, when you spend 8 hours a day around and about you can see most everything neat in Seoul within 3 months.
>Complement SK girls on their english and instantly make them wet
lol no
if you're under 6'2, don't have a NW1 hairline, lift too much or are fat, aren't fashionable, have a long nose, you're fricked.
Height bias is a real thing there, not a meme like in the US. If you're 5'9 (like me) in Seoul, it's over, but I had zero problems in NYC, supposedly the city with the highest standards aside from SF or Seattle. Literally all of Korean men heightfraud with lifts up to a 5'11 minimum, it's fricking pathetic
Never had issues in Seoul but I am not balling
>gym is LE BAD
had the exact opposite
This screams the "yeah I go to the gym once a month I have a teddy bear bod"
What the frick. I wrote this, or almost something exactly like it before on SighSee. Did you copypaste this? Some crawling chatbot or something? Or just eerily similar?
>don't have a NW1 hairline,
this is your own fragility. asian harlines are bad which is part of the reason of kpop & actor hairstyles are the fringe thing. also because they have artificial volume to give an extra inch of height.
>NW1 hairline
i had to google this shit
lmao imagine being a coping cueball and having to learn cueball lingo
I agree with most of what you said except the gym part. Korean women are ultra picky as frick but they like muscles of course.
its ricecel leakage, east asia is unironically actual jbw than SEA as poverty is not a factor. Asia mate guarding strategy is labeling all girls who go after foreigners as damaged, or they get all the left over women or other copes. Having features like blue eyes, lighter skin, etc are universally attractive features. This is evident in kslop as well, just look at all the surgeries they get to appear more caucasian.
you fell for the kslop propaganda, most korean zoomers are 5'9 at most. they all just wear shoe lifts
I’m 5’9 and have pulled Korean girls in Seoul before without heightfrauding but they were from apps. For clubs, is it better to just heightfraud if below 6’X? Doesn’t seem like there’s any downsides to doing as Romans when in Rome here besides the cost of a pair of shoes with lifts.
im always for height frauding, you are a fool to not do in 2024. cant play fair in an unfair game
Makes sense. How many inches do you fraud? What’s Korean men’s average fraud amount?
>Jeju is fricking GOAT in summer not shat up by fat weebs
Jeju is beautiful but unfortunately it gets more and more tourists from China every year who are ruining it.
>Naturally as an American, I don't understand these third world shitholes not having an open arms policy towards anyone that can afford the flight there.
They unironically swallowed the rightwing populist "open borders is le bad!" Kool-Aid
Funniest thing is that being open birders is the best thing they can do, being "picky" only works if you get the budget to back border/movement policies and are consistent. Doing these policies to well off immigrants who fly in while not applying the same to those who travel by land (of any wealth level) is just petty golden goose killing.
t. vaxxed troony
Reminder: Discussions of prostitution or sex tourism are not permitted on SighSee.
What is sex tourism?
When men have sex in countries other than their own. (Not applicable to women.)
Be a lot cooler if it was
kys
>pick up chicks instead of pay hookers
So two consenting adults, who fancy each other, deciding to have a good time together and make love is a topic too controversial for this board?
Incels hate people talking about what they think they can't have.
It took up half of the conversations on this board until somewhat recently when it became prohibited.
>who fancy each other
Most of these discussions were about poor countries. I highly doubt intentions were as pure as that.
similar to Taiwan Gold Card for salary but no mention anywhere of tax rate and exemption.
i was rejected for a startup visa for korea because i dropped out of university and don't have a degree. maybe i can get this? isn't clear anywhere i can find.
interesting none the less.
Too much money for too much plastic. Why would I go to that fake and uppity autistic asian country?
>66k/yr requirement is too much
lol
Higher net worth than you, buddy. I budget myself less than that for traveling shitholes.
what the frick are you talking about you actual fricking moron. you think you have to pay 66k for a visa?
Real Travelers don't sit in cafes and coworking spaces slaving over their laptops. They are either grifter poverty tier Chads or millionaires with purely investments. A job? A digital job? Hahaha.
>Real Travelers don't sit in cafes and coworking spaces slaving over their laptops.
Korea is cheap enough for a small apartment to be ~300-400/mo depending how nice you want it. If you're from the EU or US, then you're most likely working off hours when shit frick all to do on a weekday night anyways. Past few months in Korea I have been working midnight->8am, then I just go out for the better part of the day till about 5PM and sleep 6PM->midnight before rolling over to get to my laptop.
If you're doing some helpdesk monkey phone support job as DN you'll most always drive yourself crazy. DN's who make it are generally Sr. or Jr. level roles within a company being more project based than "how many tickets did you do today anon!".
Bruh, it's a visa available to those who make over 66k/yr from their job. You know digital nomads often have a job. You only need to prove you have income then pay a nominal processing fee for the visa.
>Higher net worth than you, buddy.
Lmao what?
Wrong, this visa requires you prove that you've been doing that job for over a year. You're not going to get this visa by lying about working, cryptobro.
Are you fricking moronic? This visa is for digital nomads who DO work and DO have a salary.
>You're not going to get this visa by lying about working, cryptobro.
Good thing I am not a crypto bro, I have a job that makes well over 66k/yr so this is a non issue. Who are you even responding to at this point.
nice American beef bro. I wish you didn't have to go to Korea to get some of it
Attention seeking homosexuals that want to chat about things that they read, or didn't read in a 500 word article.
>this visa requires you prove that you've been doing that job for over a year.
if you are a DN you should be the director of an offshore company to process income and pay minimal tax outside of your home country. i've been a company director for 4 years because of this. even if you are a freelance marketing guy you should be putting the income through a company somewhere.
Why people feel the need to brag to anonymous people online about their "wealth" is beyond me. Not only is it unproven, it serves absolutely no purpose.
I would actually prefer to get a job in Korea and avoid the visa issues, but it seems that they pay like absolute shit. oh well, digital nomad it is then. marinated pork bbq here I come
I imagine Japan's nomad visa will pretty much be the same
I can't wait for the unemployeed NEET tears
Are they still masking up there?
Does this visa qualify for time towards permanent residency?
How's the feminism as compared to 10 years ago?
>How's the feminism
Only gotten worse and more pozzed. Just go to Japan.
frick i hate hipsters so much. "nomad" living is my dream lifestyle and hipsters are going to go make it illegal
its mostly white women who got diversity/simp hired with made-up job titles.
Feel like the remote work is drying up
skill issue
Can anyone actually do that? Digital nomad shit is an extremely unreliable source of income.
I'm starting to feel like every country that's now suddenly offering Digital Nomad visas is going broke and getting utterly desperate. Most of Asia's golden age is truly over isn't? You don't see a manufacturing powerhouse like Vietnam and China doing this Digital Nomad shit (a mostly completely exaggerated myth pushed by social media), but countries in the economic shitter like Thailand, Korea and rumors of Japan doing the same all show a common trend. To put it in stock market terms, it seems like a massive sell signal. This is so pathetic and these Digital Nomads do not exist in the numbers they think they do and do not make the money they think they do.
sure thing Zhang Nguyen
The yen will be strong against the dollar in the next 20 years
Trust me bro
The whole nomad meme seems weird, anyway. Nobody really wants to be a nomad. You want to find a place to settle down, just not San Francisco or London or any of these other "developed" hellscapes. Actually wanting to be a nomad for the long term is like a voluntary homeless person's mentality.
why do you even come on this board? fricking irrelevant loser living in the middle of nowhere
desperate gatekeeping attempt i guess? lol, lmao, etc.
It's really just free money for these countries without giving up anything in return. They get a (hopefully well paid) tax resident for a few years and you get an extra long tourist visa with no rights to stay permanently or do anything important in the country.
>Thailand
>in the economic shitter
LOL no. This place is booming.
No it is not. Thailand's economy is in the dumps, as is most of Asia aside from Vietnam and maybe Indonesia. Read the fricking news dipshit.
https://en.vietnamplus.vn/utcc-revises-down-thailands-2023-economic-growth-forecast/275749.vnp
Should I move to Korea for a while? I can get the overseas ‘rean visa
What about
>take a flight there
>visa expires
>never leave
>I pay nothing
Simple as
Taxes will get you, either for your own country or their country, and then you'll be sought out.
But say you were a homless guy just rolling around, then yeah, you'd be fine.
https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/lee-sun-kyuns-death-is-a-reminder-of-the-lie-of-south-korean-liberalism
>This week actor Lee Sun-kyun, best known for his role in the 2019 film Parasite, took his own life. Why? Because he was under investigation for having used drugs, because it is illegal in South Korea not merely to have drugs but to simply have used them. Even smoking cannabis in a country where smoking cannabis is legal can lead to you being thrown in prison when you return to South Korea—they’ll drug test you at the airport. Lee had been blackmailed about allegedly smoking pot and was hit with a travel ban while the police investigated.
>In Korea, thanks to its National Security Law, it is illegal to be a communist. It is illegal to be even remotely sympathetic to North Korea. It is illegal in most cases to criticize the government. It is illegal to voice support for some politicians. In some cases the offences I’ve just listed can net you the death penalty. Comparatively, China does have a death penalty as well—for crimes such as murder.
Mm, deeply advanced.
>random clickbait website
Very intredasting
>Mm, deeply advanced.
DAS RITE
>poor people have no agency and cannot make decisions for themselves, that's why we need internet police to punish people who interact with them.
Imagine existing at this level of delusion. If a woman wants to frick a foreign guy for money that's her business, not some creepy forum moderators.
While I do agree that S. Korea is a mind-numbingly boring and depressing country with frick-all to do and the most exciting prospect probably is genuinely having coffee with a Korean woman, why is it that that's literally the only thing you morons can ever think of?
I swear if you only read this board and no other travel sources you would think the only thing in the world to do outside of your home country is horizontal shuffling. It is so mind-blowing to me that you morons presumably travel (no actual evidence that you do travel) to countries halfway across the world for something you could easily get in basically any city in your home country.
Like why even travel? Just save the air fare and it'll make up for the increased price of local "guides"
If you live in the US or Canada you can basically get whatever flavor you want at home too, not like you need to go to Asia to meet Asian horologists.
LOL FRICK ALL TO DO? So hiking random mountains, renting ATVs and ploughing around reservoirs, camping, visiting temples, visting old ass burial mounds that are UNESCO lsted, visiting the DMZ, stuffing yourself stupid with food, going to festivals, wandering around old ass villages and sampling local spirits, lazing about bathhouses in the buff, and getting wasted with old men outside of convenience stores at 3 am is just not your thing. Seriously though... this thread and the other going on about how it was there in the 2000s, it is all the same. GTFO Seoul. Seoul sucks. The country is small, compact, and accessible and there are loads to do.
Most of that sounds exhausting and boring.
the five star resorts where you do not have do anything are on Jeju. Head there if you do not want to try.
What do think is fun then?
>le coom!!
You mean connecting with locals, spending time with someone, being shown around the city and taken to all the hidden gems that only locals know about, with the possibility of some sex on the side? Yes, that is infinitely better than whatever gay national park you got all dirty and sweaty in.
>hiking random mountains
Boring. Did this once, didn't enjoy it. To each their own.
>renting ATVs and fricking around
Might be decent but would have to go to rural nowhere to do it.
>wandering around old ass villages (and so on)
So the thing is - you have to speak fluent Korean to do this. Koreans hate outsiders, are probably the most xenophobic/racist pricks on the face on the planet, and this door is slammed shut unless you speak conversational Korean. Even then it's a toss-up if they'll accept you. This is not really an average tourist's option
>visiting temples
This is okay, I did it several times but it paled compared to Japan. Maybe it's better if you've never been to Japan or Taiwan.
>visiting the DMZ
Can't comment on this one
>stuffing yourself with food
yeah, if only any of it was actually good
Getting out into the countryside is hardly difficult on day trips in SoKo. Gyeongju's reservoir area is pretty accessible and has loads of fun gravel paths, hills, streams, and little forests to smash through. Gyeonju itself is fairly accessible from Busan's North Bus terminal in about 50 minutes. The KTX station Shin Gyeongju is a bit outside of town, but taxis make up the quick ride in. The city also has a number of old burial mounds, remnants of old palaces, and temples as it was once the capital during the Unit Shilla Period.
For the villages, you do not have to speak fluent Korean. It does help, but it is not reallty necessary. Many of the guidebooks or websites travel guides will list some of the older folk villages that can be fun to hang out in. Some of the more authentic out of the way ones are easy to get to if you work out a bit of the transit system. Some of the small islands off the coast in and around Incheon or off Mokpo are great. I am not sure what you said or did to get the door slammed in your face, but many of the small places I visited were insanely welcoming. I was given food and booze pretty much everywhere I went . The old people in general were especially welcoming which is much of the rural population now.
I went to Andong, and while I didn't have a completely awful experience people-wise I did find it incredibly shitty to get around. Rural Korea sucks.
I can see how it would be difficult if you do not know how to workout a bus schedule or know how to tell a taxi driver the place you want to go.
>bus schedule
One bus every like two hours, wish I was kidding.
Taxi is okay but they overcharge you (they take the scenic route if they think they can get away with it)
Also had one taxi driver refuse to take me to a place (I later found out it was closed, which was probably what he was trying to tell me in Korea too advanced for me to comprehend)
Anyways I wouldn't bother leaving Seoul/Busan again.
>Koreans hate outsiders, are probably the most xenophobic/racist pricks on the face on the planet
Well, throughout history Japan kept invading Korea and mogging them. Japanese soldiers even killed the Korean queen in her palace.
That's cool. I'm not Asian and my country has not wronged Korea in any way.
Still didn't feel welcome there.
>So the thing is - you have to speak fluent Korean to do this. Koreans hate outsiders, are probably the most xenophobic/racist pricks on the face on the planet, and this door is slammed shut unless you speak conversational Korean. Even then it's a toss-up if they'll accept you. This is not really an average tourist's option
From reading this I can tell with 99% certainty that you are some shade of brown. I drove through South Korea with a friend and had nothing but positive experiences with the people. If you speak a few basic words and phrases in Korean people will appreciate you making the effort and go out of their way to help you. I am white though, your experience will differ if you're a bigger or a pajeet. Most places that have a sign saying "no foreigners" really just mean no brown foreigners.
>Most places that have a sign saying "no foreigners" really just mean no brown foreigners.
Exactly. I was in South Korea about a year ago and have never been refused entry anywhere. One time when I stood in line at a bar in Busan the guy at the door pointed at the No Foreigners sign, but I just said "Hanguk saram imnida" which means "I am Korean" and the guy laughed and let me in. Just don't be a Black person and don't be a social moron and you'll be fine.
We meme but let me be real for a second here: travel in 2024 is just not worth it.
It has been progressively getting worse for decades with plane tickets getting more expensive, airlines removing standard features and repackaging them as first-class/business, globalization and social media utterly making travel a farce.
Travel in 2024 is very much not worth it, you have to go through so much hassle and bullshit for a disappointing experience. You really are better off saving on airfare.
That's right goyim. Stay at home. Do not go anywhere. Just consume like a good slave.
>We meme but let me be real for a second here: travel in 2024 is just not worth it.
As someone who has been traveling on-and-off again my whole life, and really started traveling permanently almost a decade ago, I have to agree. Traveling is absolute ass now post-COVID. I basically came to the conclusion in 2023 that the only reason I am even traveling overseas anymore is because it is cheaper and some places have nicer weather. Stopped giving a frick about meeting locals when they all got brainwashed and addicted to Western social media, stopped shopping and experiences at local businesses when they all got replaced by major Global brands and stopped meeting other expats when they all became boring, blow-hard Digital Nomad dorks. Once the costs go up in enough countries versus just staying back in the West, I'm pretty much done with this lifestyle unless I can find a diamond in the rough country somewhere.
>meeting other expats
Of course the hot new spots for foreigners are gonna gentrify. All you big-spending oldgays are to blame. If hordes of oldgay foreigners plow upper-class spending power into an area, everything that springs up will be built to globohomosexual boomer tastes. Oldgay boomers fricked up America with their endless luxury subdivisions and shopping strips, then they took over the tropical beaches of the world, now they are moving in on the cities. Total boomer death.
Don't forget, white boomers import their uppity white entitlement into foreign countries.
If you ever wonder why Thai bar girls look entitled and pissed off, now you know why...
Actually most entitlement is due to the Chinese and Japanese, they will pay anything and never negotiate, and this has caused bar girls to quote ridiculous prices and even prefer Asian customers. I will give mongering white Boomer pensioners credit for one thing, is that they keep their working girl prices on a tight leash and will not budge. Theyre on a fixed income thats susceptible to exchange rates, and so they gatekeep the prices of old with an iron fist
Sounds like a (You) problem.
Travel is great you're just mentally old now and can't handle shit. Also probably a massive poorgay who only comes to this board to seethe. Likely also one of those fat fricks posting constant demoralisation threads on SighSee
Nah not him but traveling is objectively worse now in every conceivable way.
Traveling to places that are more congruent with your personality, or offer you novelties you cannot get at home is totally worth it.
I went from being miserable, and divorced in my sad gray apartment, to hooking up with beautiful European women that buy me chocolate. Sounds like it sucks to be you, though lol.
skill issue lmao what a fricking loser. please stay home, there's enough pasty social rejects wearing store brand clothes in SEA. good riddance.
see above
>need 20-50k deposit to even get a small apartment
>foreigners cannot get loans
Airbnb exists
>using airbnb to get an overpriced shit apartment illegally sublet
SighSee - sex tourism
korea is a soulless plastic shithole.
there is only a half a dozen alleyways in bosun and seoul which have somehow escape the rampant capitalist commercialisation.
but alas the korean government has firm plans to destroy these alleyways anyway.
so in 2 or 3 years it will be 100% soulless.
>le new = soulless
kys you'reself
t. eats at McDonalds in Korea
I worship korean women.
I lust after Korean women, specifically these two
>https://www.instagram.com/dajinism/
>https://www.erome.com/search?q=xxapple
But I'm under no illusion that they are better than Western women. There's nothing admirable about them, under the pounds of makeup and plastic surgery I know they're ugly as sin and have rotten, materialistic personalities.
I'd love to frick one but I'd never marry
The erome girl's face is fricking creepy
Korean women are arrogant, stuck-up, pissed off divas with egos even bigger than Western women and I guarantee you the feeling is not mutual. They all hate you.
Add hot as frick to the list and your description is right. It only takes one trip to Hongdae to see many Korean women not afraid to be seen with westerners. Some don’t to “save face” - if you meet them abroad while they’re on vacation this goes away too.
Why the frick would a Korean women date a Westerner in 2024 when Korean culture and K-Beauty trends are literally peaking in popularity year after year? You're not going to mog Korean men with lower body fat, permed hair, luxury fashion they literally went into credit card debt for, plastic surgery and even make-up with your gross American facial hair, beer belly and sweatpants outfit.
maybe some of them don't want to date another woman?
All Korean men have mandatory military service duty that lasts for years. Wtf have you ever done to compare?
I'm white.
You missed the "it's cool to be white in Korea" party by a minimum of 10 years at this point.
Do most people on this board unironically think like this?
18 months. If they are rich, educated enough, or have connections they can spend it doing community service at public health clinics, fire dept, police, or wambulence. It just means they do not get paid well for a little bit or lose time in their real job.
>they can spend it doing community service at public health clinics, fire dept, police, or wambulence
Still miles more physically active than any Zoomer back in America.
Hard agree.
Picrel
You have no idea how badly Asian men treat women do you?
Even the most raging white incel on this board will treat women better than the average Asian guy and his family.
Bullshit. You should see how Korean men here in Thailand drop hundreds of dollars a night here on prostitutes, take them on luxury shopping trips to the malls and sponsor them (send them money to Thailand from overseas back home). They are complete and total simps, they make bluepilled, white knight Boomers from the US look like Andrew Tate by comparison.
you going?
Im white you idiot. It just doesnt happen like it used to. Women all over the world now act like pozzed princesses who are too good for everyone, and this is espcially true in Asia where Narcissism is rampant and people obsess over social media bullshit even more than the West (literally an extension of old, engrained Asian face saving culture with modern day technology). Asia is in many ways worse than the West, all the continent has going for them at this point is the low amount of crime and migrants.
boo friggin who. Cry more you entitled piece of shit. Being white is not a substitute for needing to actually work for shit at life. Although your tears can make for great lube with the hookers in SEA.
>Being white is not a substitute for needing to actually work for shit at life.
I promise you I have more money than 95% of Koreans you see on the street in massive credit card debt to pay for their K-fashion bullshit to post on Instagram.
lol in case you havent noticed, they're not fricking or marrying the local men either you fricking moron. did you ever stop to think that maybe asian women just happen to be complete shit these days regardless of what race you are?
taxes will still have to be filed in the home nation 🙁
thought I could finally get temporary relief from Danish tax hell
source is some redditor
https://www.reddit.com/r/digitalnomad/comments/18tfxr9/south_korea_digital_nomad_visa_starting_from/
come home, whittu piggu
Is Korea a good place to live for a few years as an isolated writer or a bad place to live? The lifestyle involves a lot of sitting around at home by yourself and going for strolls at random times of day. It’s not easy to have a normal life, let alone a social life. Would Korea be particularly bad? Seems like a lonely society like Japan…
Koreans are significantly more social than the Japanese but they are just as conformist. Unless you hang around some hipster area, you'll have a hard time meeting people if you have an unconventional lifestyle.
What do you mean by unconventional style?
Not being a salaryman with a conventional working schedule. East Asians are very conformist and don't like it when people are too different. Korea has a pretty decent alternative/hipster scene though so I'm sure you can find some people you'll fit in with.
I felt super isolated there as a random white guy with no connections. Theyre more social but they exclude you if they dont know you.
Good place to sit at home and focus on work, i guess.
I mean, America is a pretty good place to sit at home and focus on work because you can get a big place somewhere in Appalachia or something. If you’re not going to have any social life, what’s the difference between West Virginia, New York City, and Seoul? Just convenience I guess. Gotta brew your own coffee in West Virginia.
you could do that comfortably with the caveat being how convenient it would be to get to a supermarket for food. i lived like that for a few months in a few different locations in korea. one place was a 20 minute walk to the supermarket or into town to go to a restaurant or whatever. another was just a quick bus ride. there were convenience stores closer and the workers there would acknowledge me as someone they recognised. a couple spoke english so we had conversations. people would recognise me as i went to the same restaurants each week. there was never any negative reactions or animosity towards me. i think they just thought it odd a westerner would be in that place for longer than a fleeting vacation.
I’m looking for somewhere I can spend 3-5 years rather than 3 months. I’ve spent my entire 20s living 1-2 years at a time in various places and I’m really sick of it. I’m not ready to settle down but I can’t do this less than 3 years shit anymore.
That's cool. My experience getting permits to stay has always been more work than it's worth, but that's just me. The paperwork seems endless and getting shit notarized and translated and there's always some due-diligence butthole who sticks you with something else in the end. As a long time digital nomad, I find it much easier to move between 2 or 3 countries in a region and just live off the 90 days stay rule. The 3rd country is just a buffer stop off so you don't overstay in either of your 2 primary choices.