hi SighSee, travelling to Lisbon in a few weeks time, what's fun to do there this time of year
>inb4 Fatima, already going there
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hi SighSee, travelling to Lisbon in a few weeks time, what's fun to do there this time of year
>inb4 Fatima, already going there
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Get peddled hashish by indians (or muslims, I honestly don't know wtf they are).
The city is way too spread out and has no charm, plus the weather will be shit. Go to Porto instead.
What is there to do in Porto?
>has no charm
you dont know what desperate situations english speakers live in
I've looked at the SighSee archive for Lisbon/Lisboa and there's always that moron that says "durr go to Porto instead" and SAYS NOTHING USEFUL ABOUT PORTO OR WHAT TO DO THERE YOU FRICKING
Thank you so much, may God bless you anon
You fricking ______. What, what am I?
On paper, the two cities are very similar. Both near the coast, lots of old cathedrals, old architecture, museums, inner city bus tours, parks, good restaurants & pubs, etc. I don't understand spergs like you who need it spelled out to you what there is 'to do'. Simply walking around is doing as you will be seeing new things. Use Google maps or a tourist map if you want it to be less aimless.
Now as to why Porto is better is due to it being much more compact so way less walking to hit different areas & POI, better views due to the city being built on a slope descending into a river & therefore you can see over a large proportion of the city from numerous Vantage points & lastly it simply has a better vibe. Now an autist like yourself might not even pick up on the vibe of a place or know what the fukk I'm talking about but for some reason Porto has an atmosphere that is electric while Lisbon does not. Why that is, I don't know as both places were equally busy when I visited, but some cities just have an innate charm to them I guess.
>what's fun to do there
i never know what to tell people who ask this question. I always feel like the definition of "fun to do" means going out and drinking.
listen man i dont know what you like but ill tell you a few things i like and some I know but dont like so much but you might and you can google them and see if youre interested or not.
>feira da ladra - tuesdays and saturdays although it is very touristy
>feira do relogio - what feira da ladra used to be, every sunday
>go to roma/areeiro train station and catch the fertagus train to Setubal and visit the town
>take the ferry at cais de sodre and go to Cacilhas, roam around through town
>take the bus from Campo Grande and go to Mafra, visit the palace, the church, the tapada and the town
>go to Sams Croissants in entrecampos and ask for a croissant with "doce de ovo" and for the love of god no cinnamon
>go to el corte ingles in Sao Sebastiao go to the 7th floor and visit Alcoa pastry shop
>go to cais de sodre train station and go to Sao Joao do Estoril, walk the boardwalk to Cascais, or alternatively go to Cascais roam around and then walk the boardwalk back to Sao Joao do Estoril
>In Sao Joao do Estoril go to the fado house in Galiza called Paparouca Saloia - look into the days when they have Fado
>Go to Oriente on the red line (same line youll take from the airport) visit the Parque das Nacoes, there is an aquarium there that is nice, there is a cable car there, there is a few other large museums and a Casino if you're into that as well as other things to do there
>If you're feeling like walking some more, in Oriente take the train to Vila Franca de Xira, roam through the town look around and go as up hill as you can, there is a nice look out there if you can find it
>If you find the fertagus train in roma/areeiro visit a few of the towns on the line as well but that will require some walking. Pinhal Novo and Palmela are two that I'd suggest you google.
places/things to avoid imho
>baixa/chiado/alfama/cais de sodre
>restaurants with signs written in languages other than portuguese
>any stores that are run by indian/nepalese/bangladeshe/chinese
>any restaurants that have indian/nepalese/bangladeshe servers
>any restaurants that are obviously full of tourists
>if the place doesn't look clean, its not charm, its just dirty
>any stores that have labels written in other languages other than portuguese
>you will have people approach you saying shit like "drugs? hashish?" dont open your mouth, shake your head no, ignore them and walk away
>dont roam around alcantara past the train station
>dont go to the other side of the railroad in Oriente
>Pena Palace is not worth it
>dont use tuktuks
>dont fool with the roma, dont let them know youre a foreigner
>despite what you may have been told drugs are not legal here, they're decriminalised so try not to consume in public because if the police decides to harass you they can, although i doubt they would
more places to see
>take the ferry from Belem to Trafaria you can go all the way along the coast there are many beaches there, its ocean water and the currents arent strong
>if waves are your thing, take the train to Cascais and go to Guincho by bus
>there is also a few beaches in Carcavelos and Oeiras
>there are beaches in Setubal as well
>you can take the ferry in Setubal to Troia and it is a resort like area also with nice ocean beaches
>in setubal and palmela look for restaurants that serve "Choco frito"
>you can go to Sintra if you like, its full of tourists. The trains will be full of commuters and tourists as well if you take it from Rossio. If you take the train from Oriente they'll be full of commuters, pick your poison.
>there is an official and free to use ATM network in this country with the pic related sign. other atms will charge you
>bathrooms will be hard to find, so if you see one use it
>sintra has a few nice regional pastries. you can look at "piriquita" which is full of tourists, you can also go to "gregorio" coffee shop which will be less crowded
>you can take the bus from Sintra station that takes you to Cascais and it will stop at "cabo da roca" where you can visit the most western point in continental europe. also full of tourists
>places like Sintra and LX Factory are tourist traps in general specially if you go to where all the tourists are.
>if you want to see a bit more of the real portugal and the real cuisine that everyday people consume then you will be visiting some places that are not as pretty, like Almada, Barreiro, Moita, Seixal. Safe places, probably have just as good if not better food than Lisboa, only cheaper and if you come across young people in coffee shops or bars, most can speak english and they will be more willing to speak with you in those towns than in places like Lisboa where they are tired of having foreigners around.
>Moita would be an interesting place for you to visit, small but it has its charm
Not OP, but I’m currently in Lisbon. Pick one town accessible by train that isn’t Sintra or Cascais and I’ll go there and report back.
Or bus, I should add.
Go to Tomar and don't be as paranoid as the other anon.
Looks boring senpai but the weather is supposed to be shit the next few days so I might just do it.
FWIW, I took the ferry to Cacilhas and walked all the way to the giant Jesus statue. Had a very good view of the Golden Gate copy-paste bridge, not that many tourists.
Stopped in a tavern on the way back and got steak with fries. Should have gotten seafood. Might go back later this week.
Was it the one near the tile mural? Or is it the one by the round about as you come down hill?
The tavern? It was closer to town. Forgot to meantion that I took the bus back.
I don't why I got steak with fries. Kicking myself over this, but oh well.
I wouldn’t expect a place like that to have a good fish offer. I’m not a person to suggest restaurants. Google the word marisqueira on “Av Almirante Reis” in Lisboa there should be a few minutes paces in that area.
I have a list of things I like and things I’d avoid. Why is that paranoid?
Fear for your life in a tuk tuk, go to the big ass cathedral dome, eat a cheap bifana with pork, eat a Pastel de Nata near the monument to Enrique Navegante. Go to a fado
I'm in Porto and it's kinda dead. Walking the streets at midnight and they're literally empty. Is Lisbon any better?
That’s because ever since tourism took off no one really lives in Porto or Lisboa. The only places that are poppin are tourist bar areas
Where do people live?
Can’t speak for Porto. But in Lisbon area just to name a few, people live in:
Sintra (basically along the train line)
Amadora
Cacem
Cascais (along the train line)
Oeiras
Paço de arcos
Vila Franca de Xira (along the train line)
Loures
Odivelas
Telheiras
Alcochete
Montijo
Almada
Seixal
Barreiro
Moita
Setúbal
Only people living in Lisboa live in are in around Marvila, Olaias, Bela Vista,
Moscavide, Sacavem. Mostly composed of social housing built in the late 90s to solve the problem of illegal shacks being built surrounding the city which was a big problem.
The demographics of this population is basically 60s and higher in age. Most of these people are extremely poor in terms of income. Then there are immigrants living in Lisboa in tough situations like many bunk beds in one room.
There are some people who bought early enough for it to be cheap, and those have slowly over the last five years cashed out to buy a detached house in the areas listed above also getting into more debt than they could actually afford. Then there are the rich/foreign middle class who decide to either sell their home that has valued 1000000x what they paid for it and move here. Or they decide to rent it out and live here on the income.
OP Here, went to Cristo Rei Lisboa Cathredal, St Anthony's Church, Jeronimos & the Vasco Da Gama monument at night, went to Fatima Sanctuary and the trio's houses on sunday, went to Pena Palace and to the top of Castelo dos Mouros (this was fricking scary it was fog incarnate and windy as frick) and took the 12 ride to porta do sol I ate Bacalhau a bras and bifanas and bitoques and percebes and pasteis and chicken in Bonjardim. Got dragged to timeout market and Colombo mall. Got an average of 16000 steps per day in Lisboa after sitting on my ass for years infront of a computer and now I'm back and I'm crying. I miss Lisboa so much bros
I miss it too. You should have went to Cabo da Roca though.