>literal airport slop derided by literary critics. >faithfully adapted into film (minus the smut)

>literal airport slop derided by literary critics
>faithfully adapted into film (minus the smut)
>exact same themes and characters as novel
>whole scenes ripped from page to screen
>film *critics* extol it as the greatest movie ever
So the lowest of literature is of the same quality as the highest of film?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Film has visual aesthetics and acting as part of the whole artistry. Its not about the story. There are numerous mafia films from those decades with probably slightly better stories (same themes) that were cheaply filmed and no vision. The themes of Godfather don't matter much when they are enchanted by the music and camera work.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most contemporary films, even critically acclaimed ones, are horrible. Because the medium cares more about disingenuously establishing pathos through narrative heft instead of showcasing visual sleight-of-hand, they essentially revert back to the models of adaptation and franchising. No one can actually say why Godfather is a good film beyond the story's individual beats, meanwhile it is clear from an objective standpoint what makes North By Northwest, Good Bad and Ugly and Citizen Kane great films since they are like this anon say emphasizing sight over story. This is also why it's stupid to say Coppola is better than Scorsese, because both were hacks who didn't know anything about film but wanted to reinvent its artistry anyways.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Most contemporary films, even critically acclaimed ones, are horrible.
        Dangerously based. I'm sick of seeing A24 garbage getting constantly praised and awarded. Filmbros are incredibly obnoxious.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A24's new muscle mommy movie had a magical realism bit at the end where the muscle chick becomes a giantess and holds a character down
          I wish I was kidding. it felt like it was filmed for fetishists to jerk it to

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Of course it had that. A24 know their target audience well at this point; horny and easily impressed losers who haven't seen a good movie in their lives.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's too many shit movies that lower the medium. Pulp Fiction is moronic. Even Citizen Kane. Dumb fricking movie that isn't the best movie ever. I like films, but most are fricking garbage.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but most are fricking garbage
            I can agree with this, most being 95-99%.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What are you talking about, Hitchwiener’s films were exquisitely plotted and characters were very psychoanalytically fleshed out, not to mention other things.
        Hitchwiener’s movies are not sight works, they are perfectly constructed gems in every measure and aspect, including plot.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Many of my favorite movies don’t have some grand plot but the individual scenes and characters make me love it. Sometimes I don’t even know what’s going on. Godfather was good, Lost in Translation, Amelie, Love Liza. With literature that strategy is tricky because I really need to enjoy the prose and have a vivid idea in my head that makes it feel like a movie, if there isn’t much drama that I’m invested in.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The theme matters insofar as theme means vibes. Vibes are what makes great cinema, and is established by techniques quite different from those employed in literature (including the traditional drama)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Vibes are a meme. You want comforting and familiar aesthetics regardless of how cheaply they're put together.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You talking nonsense

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You slumber a cucumber

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              ham

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The fact that they took the smut out is critical. The main appeal of The Godfather is the family values it extols. A reactionary way of interacting with the modern economy in which the main principle is extreme solidarity within the family unit

    Murder is much more vivid of screen. Not so much in books. Cinema is inherently pornographic so killings are the perfect fit.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Apocalypse now is better.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The random playboy women and carnival make it moronic

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        haven't seen it in ages, but aren't the playboy women only in redux? meaning it was cut for a reason

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no, the theatrical definitely had the scene of the women performing and being airlifted with a helicopter. also that anon is dumb, it's a good scene that reflects the absurdity of uso shows, there's nothing "random" about it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pffthahaHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >*Mogs your kino*

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not even a vietnam movie

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      heart of darkness but make it badass

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does the book really only summarize that sequence in a couple paragraphs? This thread is completely ridiculous, full of contrarian morons criticizing the movie when that picture shows how it managed to take one page from a book and turn it into one of the best scenes ever filmed

      https://i.imgur.com/2B9dIv8.jpg

      Many such cases, OP.

      Film critics judge:
      >fashion
      >realism but is a fiction
      >the story should be immediate, you shouldn't read anything
      >psychologhy garbage
      >the subtext is made by violence
      >no education

      >ideal for the propaganda

      Films are only for rich countries with a lot of ignorance. Go to watch a play is cheaper and educational, propaganda is a good thing.

      Go back to SighSee

      SighSee survived /misc/ but will it survive SighSee?

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The cast is outstanding (Kubrick said it is the best cast film ever made) and pump flat pulp characters into into interesting characters. The music is outstanding and unforgettable and perfectly mixes soft melancholy and nostalgia with the violence, accenting to the tragic loss of what matters most (family) ostensibly to originally preserve and strengthen it. Also the directing makes the visuals iconic.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You write like an AI

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      After I watched the Godfather for the first time and how great the casting was and just the nice slow flow it made me never want to watch modern movies again. I immediately went down a Jane Fonda binge from like the 60s or whatever era it was and she’s so freaking hot. I also stopped reading modern books too. Everything since the 70s is just depressing and hits too close to home. I am old, ready to die.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tbh godfather 2 does have a lot of artistic merit to it
    telling that's the one slop lovers hate

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the sicilian is better, except the sex scenes, those are cringey as frick, almost as if GRRM wrote them. still a worthwhile read. are there any other books about guerrilla warfare? for whom the bell tolls was also good

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I went to the bathroom to jack off to the sex scene of the older woman cutting the MC's hair when I was in highschool. I've never had post nut clarity hit so hard again.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just because of this pic im gonna Easter binge season 3 of the Sopranos after the UFL handegg game.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I liked the book. Never watched the film

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the godfather is overrated af

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/OTxVHXt.jpg

      >literal airport slop derided by literary critics
      >faithfully adapted into film (minus the smut)
      >exact same themes and characters as novel
      >whole scenes ripped from page to screen
      >film *critics* extol it as the greatest movie ever
      So the lowest of literature is of the same quality as the highest of film?

      filtered

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nice trips. It's an awesome book. Just as good as the movie.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Apparently these books influenced Coppola's Megalopolis (upcoming movie).

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All orthodox cosmopolitan writers. The megalopolis looking in a mirror, occasionally pretending to critique itself. If he'd contrasted this worldview with someone outside the humanist moronosphere, like Spengler or Dosto, it might've been interesting.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Italian American movies are gay. Italian Americans are annoying.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      True. They seethe when you remind them they can't speak Italian lol

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I say this as someone with not 100% Irish ancestry, but they're just annoying. Every movie is the Mafia. I'm biased in favor of the Irish. Boston has annoying Irish people, but there's not that many movies made about Irish people, Irish immigrants.

        They think they're hot shit for being Italian American. I hate New Jersey and New York City. Irish Americans who lean into it are only annoying to the Irish and people outside the US. Italian Americans are annoying inside the US. It might be a Mediterranean thing. Northern versus Southern Europe. I like Pizza, but frick every loud Italian American New Yorker who brags about living there. Everyone from New York is an annoying homosexual immigrant. They have that gay immigrant/New York mindset. I prefer Irish, English, Scottish, Dutch, German, and Scandinavian Americans because they're not annoying as frick.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are you genuinely saying that the attached text and the linked scene are comparable?

    ?si=fT7GFrAQ_fLEFLW5

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Oaj3PNS.jpg

      ?si=UheT1QcJoDC9h_8G

      This, the scenes in the book were adapted perfectly. Plus Puzo got the chance to fix the issues with his own book and deliver a tighter narrative.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does the book really only summarize that sequence in a couple paragraphs? This thread is completely ridiculous, full of contrarian morons criticizing the movie when that picture shows how it managed to take one page from a book and turn it into one of the best scenes ever filmed

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Go back to SighSee

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it true this book made blowjobs popular in the US?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah you're dad couldn't stop sucking dicks after watching it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thinking about another man sucking dicks is extremely gay, mate.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ?si=UheT1QcJoDC9h_8G

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Literary critics
    >literary
    Literary Critics care about a book being esoteric so the common man won't read it, not whether it's good.
    Clemenza's sauce advice works pretty damn good though.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The movie is dull slop. Film critics think being boring makes it deep. The characters aren’t captivating, the score isn’t entrancing, the violence isn’t tense, and the plot isn’t interesting.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wish I was Italian American
    They get to have both the best movie and the best tv show ever made.
    How is this fair?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's nothing cringier than a wopaboo.
      The Sopranos was never good.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I heard the finale is beloved but isn't it kind of silly that Sonny was a reckless idiot that got himself killed for waging war with the same people that Michael killed instantly? They had the same uncompromising approach but Michael was the genius because he thought of just assassinating their leaders all at once to no blowback?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Michael had to go into hiding in another country for that war and his wife was was killed and he was very nearly killed as well

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Corleones were hiding their strength and feigning weakness (remember in the movie when Tessio and Clemenza are complaining to Vito and ask to break away and form their own families). Vito was known for his word and he made a swear that he would not be the one to break the peace after Sonny's death, so the other families were comfortable and figured they were safe, so they stopped hitting the mattresses and were going out and about. The other families underestimated Michael too, even people in his own family did so. The amount of detail and worldbuilding that went into the Godfather is a big part of its success.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I didn't understand this part. Why would the two main capos form their own families? What would the Corleones gain from breaking apart?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The two capos were already somewhat independent and people even thought Tessio ran his own family because of the independence but they still had to give some profits up to Corleone, as well as take orders. Having their own families would mean they can take more of the money. They were already 1940s millionaires because of Vito.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's hilarious how much this guy hated Sinatra.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Many such cases, OP.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >use a 3rd of the book in a side story obout the wife cucking her husband.
      hated that book but credit where credit is due, i prefer the scene of the first victim and the climax a lot more than the movie

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Gangster by Lorenzo Carcaterra is pretty nice.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Film critics judge:
    >fashion
    >realism but is a fiction
    >the story should be immediate, you shouldn't read anything
    >psychologhy garbage
    >the subtext is made by violence
    >no education

    >ideal for the propaganda

    Films are only for rich countries with a lot of ignorance. Go to watch a play is cheaper and educational, propaganda is a good thing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >plays
      >cheaper
      not all of us live in the third world anon

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    /// He liked to fulminate over moral depravity and the decline of traditional family life /// A stone mason was employed to engrave the following epitaph on a tradesman's wife: "A virtuous woman is a crown to her husband" /// The sudden onset of rain caught everyone by surprise, and people scrambled for cover /// Yes, certainly the happy ending necessarily doesn't mean that, you know, everybody goes prancing in the sunlight and dancing /// Law, in his view, to be law at all must at a minimum comport with certain norms: regularity, publicity, clarity, stability /// Alex was the cryptonym for Colonel Oleg Vladimirovich Penkovsky of the GRU, a man who had provided the British and American intelligence services with information beyond price /// The senator has gotten into hot water with constituents over his callous remarks /// They slunk away a few minutes later, looking significantly less wienery /// With poetry, as with going to sea, we should push from the shore and reach a certain elevation before we unfurl all our sails /// The Iowa caucuses get a lot of attention during the presidential primary season /// After he was misquoted in the interview, he knew he would have to run the gauntlet of his colleagues' anger /// We want you to give us the lowdown on your teammates /// Your glum mood can rub off on those around you /// The report states that vandalism is a pestilence that must be stamped out /// I spent the night scrunched (up) in the back of the car /// The killer acted without fear of retribution /// The café is a fun, casual spot, great for a pop-in after work with friends /// I had to explain it to him three times, but finally the penny dropped /// Papers under the rubric "decorative arts" are devoted to diverse objects /// The people concerned took a very dim view of that suggestion /// This situation speaks to a need for a better tax system ///

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Film and music “connoisseurs” are so obnoxious. Music brings out the worst hipsters though

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's almost nothing worse than filmbros and SighSeegays thinking their slightly experimental pop culture slop is some kind of enlightening highbrow art.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        kek i remember trying some movies from a list of arthouse cinema from the /film/ threads on SighSee.
        only three movies in (brown bunny, breathless and 400 blows) and i gave up with that pretentious kind of cinema

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Completely agree, it's actually boring because it's like reading a "novelization" of the film.
    To be entirely fair, Puzo wrote this specifically to sell to the studio, because he needed money to pay his gambling debts. In that sense, it is almost poetic.

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