>look up places to be expat for cheaper
>all the comments say you need $2k a month even in thailand and $1k boring poverty tier
we ain't ever making it out of mom's basement bros
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>look up places to be expat for cheaper
Expat filth
SEA isn't America. Walking the streets of the big city is never boring here. "Poverty tier", whatever. It's called living like a local, not like a privileged dork homosexual.
>all the comments say you need $2k a month even in thailand and $1k boring poverty tier
>we ain't ever making it out of mom's basement bros
I don’t know if you, personally, are ever going to get out of your mother’s basement. But I spent several extended stretches in Thailand (ranging from a few months to three years) on not much more than $1K/mo., sometimes less, so it’s 100% possible to do it without living miserably. Harder in Bangkok or Chiang Mai or beachside than in less desirable cities upcountry, no question. But not impossible.
Also, if $24K/year is prohibitively expensive, you owe it to yourself to acquire some more lucrative skills. I know English teachers in Thailand who make more than that.
Which less desirable cities would you recommend staying in?
>Which less desirable cities would you recommend staying in?
Personally, I like the Northeast—Udon Thani, Khon Kaen, Nong Khai, Mahasarakham, and Surin all have their charms, among others. Udon probably has the biggest resident foreigner population, largely American military retirees with their Thai wives, followed by Khon Kaen, which has a huge university and some multinational business. The smaller/more middle of nowhere you get, the cheaper you’re usually looking at. But you also quickly move into territory where English isn’t really spoken.
If you prefer the north, I once spent a couple of months in Lamphun, very close to Chiang Mai, and enjoyed it. It’s developed into something of a bedroom community for Chiang Mai in recent years, so it’s not as cheap as it once was, but still cheaper than Bangkok or the beach. I have a friend who lived in Lampang who gave it similarly high marks.
Moving into more central territory, I’ve always liked Phitsanulok (sort of the southernmost northern province) and Lopburi. But I find most central plains cities in Thailand pretty boring.
Never tried (nor wanted) to live in the South or Southeast.
Thanks anon, quality post. I like the idea of staying somewhere where there aren't too many tourists, but at the same time I think the people might be less friendly there and I might feel like an outcast weirdo.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1030220/thailand-average-monthly-income-per-household-by-region/
There are rather extreme regional disparities in income in the country.
>There are rather extreme regional disparities in income in the country.
I don’t have a Statista account, so I couldn’t see the graph you linked, but that’s not news to me—development has always been really uneven in Thailand. The Northeast has historically been the most rural/agricultural and poorest part of the country, although there are pockets of deep poverty in the rural far North and South too. All the money has been in and around Bangkok for two hundred years or more at this point. Bangkok is really a “primate city,” in that it’s almost exponentially larger than any other urban center (less than 40 years ago, there were fewer than 200,000 people in greater Chiang Mai; the second-largest city in the country was until recently Nakhon Ratchasima, which still has a metro-area population of less than half a million).
None of the cities I mentioned are really tourist centers, although Nong Khai as a border town with Laos does get a bit of backpacker traffic, and Surin gets a trickle of visitors seeking elephants and silversmithing. There are legitimately interesting tourist attractions scattered all over the Northeast, but they’re not really in the cities. Most foreigners there are either working or retired, as often as not settled down with or near local extended families.
My experience in the Northeast has been that locals are among the friendliest and least jaded people in Thailand. But they’re also among the least likely to speak English. So places with at least some other resident foreigners in town are usually much easier to navigate as a newcomer. I would never recommend just rocking up to a small town in rural Isaan to anyone who wasn’t already pretty familiar with Thailand, and especially not to someone with no Thai.
>Bangkok
nah Phuket
LMAO. Can't wait to go to Thailand on 12/6/23 and compare it to the Philippines.
im moving to spain next month and will be paying 100 per month on rent u gotta try harder lil bro
Are you a wizard?
forgot to mention that i have to give the landlord a blowjob twice a week but that is a small price to pay
get a few simps paying your trip
for a shared single room?
Yeah how are you doing that?
Dude if you can’t save up like 10k in a year then just go frick yourself lmao
>$1k boring poverty tier
you can easily live with 300 usd month in thailand. and that's the poverty tier.
>3000 baht/month for a room (84 usd)
>eating at food courts, 50 baht per dish (1.41 usd)
Would such a room have A/C? Probably not.
What about immigration fees for longer stays? They should be included in any COL calculation for foreigners.
Travel is not about making money, but rather saving it. I can save $2000/month easily with only 4-5 hours of overtime per week, but many people blow out their paycheck on "treating themselves".
Korea is cold as frick in wintertime. Also, Koreans are buttholes.
I've seen 3k apartments in bangkok with ac
>go to korea
>book well in ahead
>airbnb ~300/mo reliable utilities for a private room
>food is dirt cheap assuming you are okay with chicken and pork for most your protein intake
>buses are also cheap
Never understood thailand over korea
>Never understood thailand over korea
no cheap beaches or b***hes in korea
I have a family member who has a tested iq of 85 and makes more then 24k a year working at maccas wtf are you doing with your life?
how are you unable to make 2000? at 20$/hour that's like 20 hours work per week you fricking loser
Dude, most people on the internet are fricking morons. Thailand is cheap as frick. You can live a good quality of life in Thailand for $800 per mo.
https://www.thailand-property.com/ads/1-bedroom-condo-for-rent-in-sr-condominium-chiang-mai-san-phranet-chiang-mai_0b4682be8efd-d65f-80a6-b0f6-571093cc
This $150 condo looks the same as my old, cold ass, east coast apartment for $2,400 a month. The food in Thailand is cheap as frick too. I can do $800 per mo. in Thailand no problem lmao I'm a frickin neet with a business.
yeah if you have a work visa or something a $250 condo is quite nice, with $360 going up into more luxury.
also easy to just split the cost with a GF and save even more shekels. food probably $300 month for an american.
a native thai, like $60-$80. idek
they are lying for some reason westerners love to spend all their money on pointless shit like the most expensive shit for High society locals to make their dick hard but no one fricking needs to hang out with rich fricks when they are trying to save money in a foreign land
Lived in India for several years. Didn't spend anywhere near that much. However, you will spend more than you expect if you want to preserve anything resembling a Western standard of living.
>Western standard of living.
Yea but what's that actually based on? Medical care, having an iphone, eating cheese?
I think there's a pretty clear line between western culture and first world amenities.
Western life means anything beyond having a brick house with a tin roof. Having temperature control even if just a chimney or similar. Being able to eat out most days of the week if you want. Buying american clothes. Because the clothes in the local shops will not fit the same way american clothes are tailored to. Transportation also. Western standard is having the freedom to be anywhere anytime. While the locals are restricted to once a day by the bus with limited time slots.
No matter where you go. You'll probably be spending $500 a month in rent for a house of similar quality to american ones.
Adding to this. Health insurance might not be too expensive. You can international for something like $50-100 a month. I'm not familiar with asia though so you'll have to check what that cobera and any local costs.
However, even if the health costs are covered. That doesn't actually explain the quality of care you will recieve. For example what if you need cancer treatment? The doctors with the skills just might not exist in the country. So you may end up just coming back home and oaying up 10s if not 100k anyways.
Things like do paramedics even exist en mass? So if you get into a car crash at 70mph. Would you get help in time? While back home you would've surgery 1 hour after the crash or whatever.
A lot of what you hear online is bullshit. Local people can afford to live everywhere, if you can get a normal ass job you can probably get by.
Many states charge visas to deter low income migrants, but I just lived for 6 months at a time on savings, working a local job and losing a marginal amount of money. You don't need an "expat job".
Get an expat job if you can though, the money is great and the working culture is probably the reason you're there.
A lot of new expats/wanabes don't consider things like skill rust and depreciating assets, after 6 months you start replacing your nice clothes and toys with local junk and your quality of life falls considerably. Your student debt increases faster than you can save money, your savings are virtually worthless, anything you buy in country like furniture is basically a write off. That's why expats give these huge figures you need. In many ways I think that's actually naive. Either you're a migrant or you're an expat, either you've got an exit plan or you don't
>how am i supposed to pay my six figure student loans earning $1k a month in thailand
How much money would I need to move to pattaya and live an upper middle class but not extravagrant lifestyle