I'll be visiting between July 12th and July 20th. I arrive after an 11 hour train trip, so I'll be too exhausted to use my brain in any meaningful capacity. I'm 27yo burger visiting from Detroit (not black), really eager to explore the culinary scene, nightlife, and architecture/culture. I'm trying to be proactive with this trip, so I'm working my way through basic French. I already speak Spanish so the mechanics of the language aren't too unfamiliar, but it is tough to get the pronunciation right. Any pointers or tips would be greatly appreciated.
>priorities
* Really get down and dirty with international cuisine. Anthony Bourdain sold me on the fantasy of eating fusion French-Paki cuisine and I refuse to allow the post-pandemic world to ruin my gluttonous dreams.
* Nightlife would be nice to indulge in. I'm not going clubbing, too fat and out of practice dancing to try that, but I'd like to go to some fun bars and just chat with strangers. I'd like to see more antiquated venues with a strong regular crowd (don't care if it's old people, I'm open minded), but I can do more modern stuff it has a decent crowd. I don't think I'm going to get along with the turbo lefties from the local unis so I don't care for hip student spots.
* History is a private passion alongside architecture that I don't share with anybody stateside. I doubt I'll find any enthusiasm in Montreal, but there ought to be some decent museums or structures I can visit and muse at. Not a fan of modern art, and sadly most big cities pride themselves on being full of it. I'll take suggestions for art galleries, spare me the toilets engraved in the artist's shit.
And no, I'm not trans (dude you've been at it for six years, I'm genuinely impressed)
>* History is a private passion alongside architecture that I don't share with anybody stateside.
Montreal will be good for this, but Quebec city might be even better
Highly recommend Terrasse St-Ambroise. It's a bar of the brewery St Ambroise. Great time during the summer.
Excellent, I'll give it a shot
I've read that Quebec City is far better for history, but Montreal is old enough to keep up right?
You're a champ, thanks! I've really wanted to see Habitat 67, didn't realize it was in Montreal. Big fan of Brutalism (not the Soviet garbage), so I'll hit it straight away.
I've been researching bars, so far I've seen a few that catch my attention:
>barfly
>Bar Courcelle
>Taverne Midway
>Bar Le Tunnel
>Sans Soleil Bar
I haven't barhopped in a while. What's cool about bar le courcelle and midway, they were always neighborhood bars, even in the 80's or 90s, of course they got revamped since.
You can get by food to terrasse st-ambroise from le courcelle and vice versa.
Yes Quebec city has more history but the vieux quebec itself is tiny. Also don't eat there, all tourist traps. There is a couple of burtalist government buildings. I haven't been in decades.
I'm opting to get a feel for the city my first two days before spending the rest of the week exploring and drinking well into dawn. If I can see a couple of decent museums along with some landmarks, I'll be pretty satisfied.
I will anon, at least I hope so. If it sucks I'll come back and add a travel report barely worthy of being called a shitpost.
The city is split up in two. "french" east and "english" west. It's separated by St-Laurent blvd.
For museums visit: i suggest Pointe à callière, there is a 15 min interactive presentation which sums up the history of Montreal extremely well.
Musee des beaux arts for the arts museum.
Phi centre for modern arts.
Main neighbrhoods would be (from east to west)
Rosemont
Plateau
Mile-End (which is just a distric of plateau)
Outrmeont
NDG
St-Henri
Verdun.
And of course Old montreal/Downtown.
They are all accessible by metro , so get a transit pass.
literally no one cares
The recommendations are appreciated anon. I'll be staying near St.Denis (the street) so I'll be right by downtown. I don't think it'll be too much hassle to navigate the city on foot, right? I'll still opt for a transit pass, Paris was easy to explore since I had their transit card for the metro.
Yeah if you're at an intersection with St-Denis you're golden.
Walking is totally fine, worse case you can always uber. Or pay cash for transit, which is $3.50 CAD. bus or metro.
must not have sucked
enjoy your moron trip anon
But I actually am trans though BTW haha
Modern art manifests itself in countless murals. The israelites really forced leonard cohen.
See if there is anything interesting at the canadian architecture centre.
For artichitecture. See butalism : olympic stadium and habitat 67.
McCord museum is full woke so avoid that.
Neighborhoods with pretty houses see Outremont and Westmount.
Nightlife : trashy one is on st-laurent. Trashy with money : old montreal.
Montreal is very neighborhood specific. And people identify themselves by where they live.
Avoid the gay village, its seriously unsafe, but hey you're from Detroit.
Great ethnic food can be found in cote des neiges area. Paki stuff is close to parc metro. Also known as "park extension" or "paki station"
Also get a transit pass.
Montreal is very forgiving if you dont speak french. Only canadians get shit on for speaking english. Americans are fine with english only.
People like it when you try. So start with "bonjour" .
People actually like being in Canada? Walking around Canada is like being in a big zoo filled with dumb monkeys lmao
Omg I love the cute accents of sexy French Canadian women when they speak English.
When I went I noticed there was a huge spectrum of accents from them. Some of them just sounded like any anglo canadian (except she used the word client instead of customer which I thought was interesting). When some of them have full on stereotypical french accents.
Well obviously there is likely no law preventing white Anglo Canadians or others from living in Montreal lots of the people with perfect English may fit into that category. I have met a 30 something year old French Canadian and a fifty something MILFy woman and both had sexy French Canadian accents. But I have never personally been there. Maybe the youth learns English from an early age now.
Is Quebec any good for cooming
kys moron
One of the best places in the world for that
What would you recommend?
One thing that was a pleasant surprise when I visited Montreal was the Portuguese food. I was expecting good French food, but was surprised to find loads or really, really good Portuguese restaurants.
Is Montreal a good choice for a young guy wanting to make loads of friends aged 18-25 and date loads of art hoes?
My country has a WHV agreement with Canada so frick it might give it a shot
what country? are you white?
Bongland
yeah
I cant believe anyone would willingly come to Canada. I remember being in japan for the first time and my mind being blown that I would walk anywhere at anytime and be left alone and not have to deal with complete and utter idiots and buttholes at every single turn in life.
theres a shit ton of mueseums. went there last month adn in downtown, theres likes 4 withint walking distance of my hotel near the peak place.
Château Ramezay was nice. it was a whole other world back then.
Excellent rec, that seems right up my alley.
I'll probably aim for this on Sunday/Mon, I'd like to take in the sights and sit smugly eating cheese wedges. I've already amassed a nice list of Portuguese fare to try, seems like Portugal sent a city's worth of their people over in the 70's and 80's.
There are a lot of places that have rave reviews regarding their poutine. I'm just going to be random about this and try it in different neighborhoods. There is a very real chance I bankrupt myself just eating out.
What's dating in Montreal like?
I want a sweet weirdo gf like Knives Chau but I won't be enrolled at uni so I worry that I won't meet the kind of girls I like
Also how easy is it for me to find part time work as a Bong coming over on a WHV?
>going to Canada and working part time
I know lots of people say that x country is too expensive to live in and most of the time its just bs (like japan or something) but for canada its 100 percent true. You better have like a million dollars saved or at least have someone who lives in a nice area that let's you stay rent free. And dating in canada is dogshit. The woman are mostly manly and dumb and the hot ones are almost always taken. And no they won't give a frick about a brit who works part time and has to live in some shithole.
Even in Montreal/Quebec?
I thought those criticisms mainly applied to Ontario/Vancouver (which btw I have no interest in setting foot in)
UK is already stupid expensive anyway
Ontario BC is even worse.
You can run the numbers on numbeo. They're pretty accurate.
As for rent look up facebook marketplace.
If you don't sprek french your employment options will be more limited.
>coming
Some girls might be impressed by your british accent.
Although Montreal is cheaper than Toronto, canada is stupid expensive for every day expenses when compared to the UK.
If working part time , you mean a minimum wave job, you will starve.
Beautiful women, though very hipster. I got matches with every ethnicity as an asian dude.
Larping homosexual
Canada sucks.
Quebec is maybe the only part where people go out and are social. Things like going out to bars and pubs with your friends are not things that young people do in Canada. Here you just go to work, go home, go on Reddit, troon out etc. Can't afford anything either because everything is expensive. Very much reddit IRL. The French part is better but don't expect much it is still Canada.
As far as food goes Marche Jean Talon
le Maison du roti
Bleu et Persille
Favorite thing to do in most francophone place is get a good baguette, cheese, wine and maybe some pate rustique or rillete de canard and chil on a parcel bench
Park bench Jesus Christ auto correct
get a poutine from La Banquise. There's also a good portuguese chicken place in front of it if you want to try it
Mouth breathing idiot
Banquise is overrated. They make no effort since there is a steady flow of french tourists going " DU COUP, DU COUP, Ça FAIT COMBIEN EN EURO".
Poutineville is more legit.
>La Banquise.
Fricking garbage. Go to Paulo & Suzannes at 2am.
Is old Montreal like old Quebec in QC? The streets look really similar
>Click here
Old Quebec is more beautiful, but also more touristy. I like both, I'd pick Quebec but when im drunk I prefer Montreal
Wilenskys, Montreal pool hall, Cold room/El pequeno bar, st. viateur
People say Schwartz's is overrated, but its literally the best place for smoked meat and slaw
wtf dude, why are you misleading OP and myself?
Pour moi, c'est Alfa a longueuil
I'm driving to Montreal today for a concert tonight. Thanks for making this thread OP!
How have your first couple days here been?
Any restaurants you've been impressed by so far?
Why are hotels in Montreal so expensive? I've been looking and all the places I'd consider mid-tier are over $230/night.
Crazy expenses, high taxes, tourism concentrated around summer only which is the only time of the year hotels can actually turn in a profit before the city becomes a ghost town again with only locals in the fall/winter.
1300$ is possible assuming you're lucky, at that price there'll be hundreds of mongoloids applying for the apartment and it's a lottery. Landlords start having insane expectations and standards to weed out troublemakers and crackheads/broke asses because you can easily squat the apartment, refuse to pay your rent and it'll take at least a year for the landlord to evict you.
1700-1800$ is more realistic if you want to find a place you can easily rent in the area without having landlords going full moron with requirements.
La Banquise is worth it once and only once, after that anyone who makes home made french fries and gravy can serve "good poutine".
Reuben's is the same as schwartz minus the crowded place where you're jammed up all together sweating like pigs.
Ya'll need to stop pretending like smoked meat is rocket science, it's extremely simple and most places make the exact same thing.
St viateur is nice though, never too crowded, the one on the plateau is very convenient and makes great bagel sandwiches.
>Reuben's is the same as schwartz
hard disagree. schwartz sandwich is half the price
Yes but everytime i go to schwartz the place is jam packed with moronic tourists squatting the place for hours and there's usually a long line up.
I'd rather pay more for the same quality at reubens but with actual space, no waiting and no fat frick americans sitting right beside me.
It's still relatively cheap considering how much meat they give you and the portions of the plates.
NDG is fine, verdun is chill too even though all the frenchies moving in from the plateau made rent go up there as well but you can still find interesting places, plateau is fine but don't go beyond avenue papineau since everything beyond that point is Black person central.
if you go on a weekday you’ll be in schwartz after a 5 minute wait. plus im pretty sure schwartz does their brisket in house, whereas reubens gets it shipped from somewhere.
i havent had reubens yet so i cant speak for the taste difference
>1700-1800$ is more realistic if you want to find a place you can easily rent
that's out of my budget, so I guess I'll need roommates, or look for a place further from downtown 🙁
Tourist season
Airbnb crackdown
Everything is more expensive in Canada for no reason + inflation.
After today, I want to move to Montreal from Ottawa. How much can I expect to pay for a 1 bedroom not too far from Rue St. Denis? $1300 looks promising from a few minutes on rentals.ca
french canada is the best canada
Acadian French Canada is good. Really nice people and food
Frick Quebec
New Brunswick supremacy