I’m been wanting to move to Hawaii for a long time now, and I’m trying to work out the practicalities of moving to Honolulu. If I get lucky, I will be able to move within a year or two. Possibly less, but I want to wait until I can make minimum 80k/yr there.
My questions are:
>Where are the best places to rent an apartment, ideally near the airport?
>How much can I expect to pay for a studio apartment in those areas? How much for a 1br?
>How much will living expenses (gas, food, utilities) cost me as a single guy?
>Car? Was thinking I’d buy something here and ship it. I need something to lug around my gear, and MAYBE a dirt bike, but I don’t really need more than 2 seats. Should I just get a taco like everyone else? Or a jeep?
>Where are the best spots for activities? Not expecting you to give out your favorite surf spot or anything, but general areas? I’ve been to the other islands plenty of times but never actually Oahu.
>Anything else I should know/be prepared for?
Also feel free to post general questions about traveling to the Hawaiian islands, or moving in general.
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>Where are the best places to rent an apartment, ideally near the airport?
Try Wainei Hills or Pin Point Island
>How much can I expect to pay for a studio apartment in those areas? How much for a 1br?
$500 or $1000 at the cheapest
>How much will living expenses (gas, food, utilities) cost me as a single guy?
$200/month if you don't eat out
>Car? Was thinking I’d buy something here and ship it. I need something to lug around my gear, and MAYBE a dirt bike, but I don’t really need more than 2 seats. Should I just get a taco like everyone else? Or a jeep?
There is a great Jeep dealership on the Big Island they they'll take it over to other islands by ferry for free
>Where are the best spots for activities? Not expecting you to give out your favorite surf spot or anything, but general areas? I’ve been to the other islands plenty of times but never actually Oahu.
Not really any activities in Hawaii buddy
>Anything else I should know/be prepared for?
Burning alive in your car
>Try Wainei Hills or Pin Point Island
Where are those located? Never heard of em and can’t find it on google.
>$500 or $1000 at the cheapest
>$200/month if you don’t eat out
Seems a lot lower than what I was looking at, thanks.
>Not really any activities in Hawaii buddy
Surfing? Dirt bike trails? Riding a motorcycle at suicidal speeds down H1? Even just some good restaurants or generic nightlife or whatever.
>Burning alive in your car
Guess I’ll bring my sun shades
>Where are those located? Never heard of em and can’t find it on google.
They are both near Hapa'oi Beach. Look for the little inlet on the map south of Morris Air Field
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at least 1500-1800/mo will go to bills+rent this assumes you want to live anywhere fully powered+AC+internet+close to anything to get food/supplied. Otherwise you'll need a car which is it's own entire clusterfrick by itself.
>Car? Was thinking I’d buy something here and ship it.
LMAO NO shipping a single car without being in the military will fricking be worthless
>Anything else I should know/be prepared for?
Disappointment once you realize how dog shit the place can get, yes sure the "beach, weather, and hiking will be great I'll never get bored!". Yeah wait till 6-8 months after then you realize oh yeah... that hill again... yeah the beach again... oh wow more homeless than I recalled... Huh why the hell is it so expensive now? oh right USD changed... Damn why does no one want to really be a friend here? They all go their families all the time.
>at least 1500-1800/mo will go to bills+rent
yeeeep, that's what I was looking at.
>Otherwise you'll need a car which is it's own entire clusterfrick by itself.
I figure I'd want a car anyways. Or at least a motorcycle, though that might even be more of a clusterfrick with theft and such. If it's really viable to get around without one, then I guess I won't bring one. I don't want to be taking ubers every other day though.
>LMAO NO shipping a single car without being in the military will fricking be worthless
Why's that?
>Disappointment once you realize how dog shit the place can get, yes sure the "beach, weather, and hiking will be great I'll never get bored!".
You can definitely get bored anywhere. I travel a lot for work so I don't think I'd get island fever. At least not too badly.
>Damn why does no one want to really be a friend here? They all go their families all the time.
No friends anyways...
Was probably going to need a short term rental for at least a few weeks/months anyways to find an apartment. I don't think I'd really be able to move and then move back in less than a year though.
>Why's that?
The cost of it compared to just getting a moped or something is counter intuitive, also getting it registered+inspection+what they will 100% find wrong is not worth it. Shipping and port fees suck and a bunch of paperwork even if it is domestic to domestic. Just sell off and recoup things that are easy to buy and repair there.
> I travel a lot for work so I don't think I'd get island fever.
Unless you're middle ground between Asia and the US Hawaii is a terrible choice for you. Also don't live by the airport, if you travel for work just expense it like I do. The bus is piss easy to take as well from most anywhere.
>You can definitely get bored anywhere
The problem is that once you see everything, that's it. Going a state or two over is not an option as it's an investment in time/money. Quite places are a constant battle between locals and tourists and not much space to go around.
> don't think I'd really be able to move and then move back in less than a year though.
You should really just spend some time in an Airbnb before investing balls deep into Hawaii. I don't know how many times you've been but really spending a month or two there prior to moving or think "yup to pull the trigger" because Hawaii can suprise you on how paris syndrome it can be.
>noooo you can't move to hawaii your ancestors didn't float here on a canoe haha america is soo evil hahahah
Locals are unironically one of the reasons NOT to move to Hawaii.
Anything bad happens
>Ohhhh the white man doesn't know our struggles that long time native Bob Anderson my best brother faces for his fact of being hawaiian
Anything good happens
>This is outrageous I will proceed to take all these things and complain about how it's not enough to recoup our way of life that I have lived for 45 years
Call some stupid shit out locals do
>OOOOOH YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND OUR STRUGGLES OF 1ST WORLD LIVING CONDITIONS AND TOURISM BUCKS
Look no further than the lightrail/train they've been trying to build for decades and now has 2 more decades to go. It's internal sabotage at this point by locals just wanting government bucks because they stacked the deck in the job market and got everyones back. Don't even get started on the divorce rates by women out there who will just take the money and run.
Best advice is to rent an airbnb on a short term least for 6-9 months. It's not exactly hard to find a place like that and you'll have enough time for any of the issues to leak regarding hawaii.
Soo what is the appeal really?
>stuck on island where everything is super expensive
>the locals don't want you there
>lots of homeless
>nothing to do
>no jobs
>eat pineapple for every meal
Just go move to Florida instead like the rest of us
Florida is probably last on my list of places I'd want to live. If I can't move to Honolulu (or don't like it), I'm probably looking at a west coast city that is just as expensive, or ideally somewhere near the mountains. Boulder, CO would be nice. Not easy to move there either, though.
>what is the appeal
The nature, the ocean, the climate, the food, the fresh air.
As for cons, there are many, but I'm not going if I don't get a job there. If I do get a job I should be able to afford things just fine after a year or two. The locals being unfriendly is another matter, but I figure Honolulu is a large city and I could maybe carve out a small friend group for myself with enough effort. Maybe I'm wrong there.
Obviously the most important part for me is that I just feel like I want to. If we're doing a cost-benefit minmax, then some suburb of a mid sized midwestern city wins every time.
>Just sell off and recoup things that are easy to buy and repair there.
Gotcha.
>Also don't live by the airport, if you travel for work just expense it like I do
I think just buying a moped or car would probably work out better for me. Living by the airport is just a convenience thing really. If it's better in other places I don't mind a little drive or bus ride.
>You should really just spend some time in an Airbnb before investing balls deep into Hawaii.
I've been several times and I plan to keep going, but of course living there and being a tourist are very different experiences. If I can get a month or two free, I'll try doing as you say.
I hope your neighbors in Hawaii report you for living in an Airbnb, which is illegal in Hawaii.
>Florida is the last place I'd live!!!!
good, stay out of decent places. Enjoy hawaiis deep corruption and poverty living just say "hey I live in Hawaii!"
only benefit I can think of for hawaii is that you have first world medical care on a tropical island. and maybe some of the coral and wildlife is not completely dead, but it is mostly dead. I can''t think of any place else in the world that has this except for singapore.
>first world medical care
>Hawaii
Anon... my folks retired in Hawaii and both have some serious health issues (heart & eyes). If you need general healthcare it's fine, but if you need specialists expect to be flying to the mainland for everything- they have to head to California 2-3x/year to see proper docs.
at this point Hawaii should just head in the opposite direction and make it so any quack can practice speicalized medicine to inject some healthcare tourism or something
they are burning these hawaiian homies alive you think they're gonna give them more healthcare options lmao
Rent a place for short lease and see if you like it instead of committing to a long term lease.
Most people i saw who moved to hawaii ended up regretting it one way or another unless they were:
1. Military
2. Had high paying jobs in leisure/entertainment/hospitality
Unless you're a boomer retiring with a few millions in the bank, the place isn't all roses and butterflies so make sure you're prepared for the inconvenients.
The hardest part was making any meaningful friendship, most end up moving back to mainland US or to asia once they realize they can't save up for shit and everything they make goes to bills and rent.
Not a retiring richgay boomer (yet) but not exactly a poorgay either. If/when I move to Hawaii I will be making good money with some decent savings. Enough to live comfortably, at least. Maybe even purchase an average home. Definitely enough to buy a nice apartment.
Is it really as difficult to make friends in HI as people are saying?
You'll make friends, just that most of them will end up moving sooner or later because most expats moving to hawaii don't find stable/decent paying jobs to begin with and hawaii and expensive.
Reminds of me when i lived in dubai and most friends i made there moved back to europe after they spent their last dollars "living it up" and couldn't afford the cost of living anymore.
Finding stability in hawaii requires money, most don't have it.
You make friends with the rest of the Mainlanders trying to carve a life in the islands. Some are honest to good folk, some 6-figure pensioners that will never give you the time of day, some are druggies because dude weed & Hawaii. You got “locals” of other emigrated families that made their life there, flips/chunks/asiatics & nips are often friendly. Now you have the natives, ones that can trace their family lineage to Kamehameha days, total tribe mentality, hate you for taking up space and looking like some douche in an aloha shirt. The Natives are tight knit, Sovereigns, criminals, druggies and county workers. The only way to make friends with the Natives is just to have a rapport with one of them in the family, if they invite you to a luau you have to give back in some way, it’s a two-way streak give and take if you don’t want to be shunned by them the next morning, tensions can build, many of them have a chip on their shoulder. If you do manage to get close with a Native family consider yourself apart of their family for life, they had a concept of adoption before the Missionaries came back in the 1800s. Natives are just as redneck but as preachy as Native Americans on the reserve. I’ll fill you in on more later when I feel like dedicating time to this thread.
I hear maui is cheaper lately