Aside from internal transfers, are there any options when it comes to moving to Asia and working in other way than teaching English? I don't mean becoming a digital nomad, just if there are other ways to find work overseas than TEFL.
If anyone has some experience with non-TEFL work abroad in general, not just Asia, I'd be thankful for sharing, too.
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I worked as a manager at a call center in the Philippines for almost a year. The pay was pretty shit ($2500 a month), and the hours were shit too, since you are expected to be there the whole shift to deal with stuff.
You need a college degree and some management experience, but you will be hired instantly if you are a white since these places are desperate for legitimacy and expertise in dealing with white american customers.
It's not an ideal job by any means, but its an option.
Thanks. Would you say it's much easier to look for openings while in the country, or are some companies open to contact from your home turf?
Manage complex projects. Designing workflow, timelines and manpower budgets for multinational teams. Pretty good pay depending on the projects in a given year it's well in to the six figures. Does require a combination of work.experience and credentialing but a PMP certification wouldn't be a bad place to start along with a management or Logistics/ supply chain background
Asia is full of jobs for expats. Most of them are white collar or technical jobs, and they require education, skills, and/or experience. Asia is also full of expats who don't have any of these but do have creative resume-writing skills.
If you have a bwc, record yourself fricking Asian boi wives and girlfriendsand start your own site selling vids for weebs to live vicariously through. Onlyfans wouldn't work because they only allow verified content creators so you couldn't get real amateur girls, though.
like "English Psycho"?
Working conditions in Asia are generally poor, and pay is lower than in the United States or the United Kingdom.
If you have some kind of conventionally useful skill or talent, it's actually more foolish to move there than it is for the English teaching crowd, who are actually doing better than they probably could at home.
This may be excessively cynical of me, but the rule in Asia is that if the locals are happy with you, you're probably getting the short end of the stick in your relationship with them, professionally or otherwise.
English teachers annoy many Asians, because they're perceived to be slackers exploiting a cheat code to a fairly easy ride when at home they'd be flipping burgers in a hot kitchen or so the story goes. On the other hand, they will be happy to see people with technical and other skills there, because they know they're getting their pound of flesh and that you're likely working 40+ hours and getting paid 2/3 or less what you would at home in return for "the experience" or whatever.
>Working conditions in Asia are generally poor, and pay is lower than in the United States or the United Kingdom.
true for the UK and the USA, untrue for pretty much everyone that isn't from there. The UK is due to their strong finance and banking system, the US because of that too and their top industry/tech.
Also, there are a few outliers : Gulf countries, finance in HK and SG. Taiwan if you're into the whole semiconductor thing will make you earn less but your money goes a long way.
I guess we could stop the discussion at this very thing if this board didn't have other types of people such as :
>other europeans
>south and central americans
>africans
>anyone with a skill that could be in high demand in Asia and not so much back home
>artists
>People who just do not want to live in America or the UK no matter if their salaries get slashed
It is tiring to have to repeat the same fricking thing in every fricking thread about expatriation in Asia. I'm pretty sure no Palo Alto tech engineer in his right mind would abandon his 200k yearly salary just to go live in Taiwan. This thread was obviously not made for these people. If Asia was heaven then the Asians wouldn't go to America in the first place. But there are also reasons why people want to go to Asia. Not everything is about money. Are you the british guy who keeps shitting on every employment possibility in Asia whenever such a thread pops up because you've got like half a million net worth and a 90k/year salary ? Why can't you realize that your personal situation is somehow marginal ?
europeans
and central americans
with a skill that could be in high demand in Asia and not so much back home
who just do not want to live in America or the UK no matter if their salaries get slashed
Wogs and thirdies, weebs, schizo /misc/cels... okay.
>If Asia was heaven then the Asians wouldn't go to America in the first place.
Asians (mostly Asian men who marry white girls) go to America for experience. 97% of Asians would rather retire back in their home with their family than die in America.
>97% of Asians would rather retire back in their home with their family than die in America.
I'm pretty sure the vast majority of Asian-Americans do not retire and die in Asia. You did get a chuckle out of me with the white girl remark though, Chang.
>are there any options when it comes to moving to Asia and working in other way than teaching English?
realistically no
if you have to ask then you dont have the skills/qualifications to do it
I don't think that's true. Even in the West, there's plenty of people who work bullshit email-and-meetings only jobs that require a bachelor's degree and no hard skills in particular.
Those jobs in Asia will go to locals. What's available to foreigners are jobs locals can/won't do (teaching English as a native speaker, defending South Korea as a soldier lol) or situations where the foreigner has a special skill or talent above and beyond what local people can offer.
Paper shuffling is for local graduates, and manual labour jobs refuse Westerners for some reason (Asian countries probably don't want to the bad PR when they inevitably get treated badly and Western media and governments end up all over it).
>Korea doesn't defend itself
South Korea has 4 million military personnel and pays the US money annually.
Why would a company hire a foreigner for that when Tanaka-san will do 3x the hours for half the pay?
>Tanaka-san will do 3x the hours for half the pay
How do you think it works?
>be white in Asia
>want to get a job
>get an offer
>laugh in their face
>"Uhm, I'm white, so thanks but no thanks, Ching-chong"
>starve
If you're in the country you need and agree to the same pay as everyone else.
These things are fast becoming illegal, getting a proper job is a better bet, I'd say
>If you're in the country you need and agree to the same pay as everyone else.
No you don't. Because you can always change that and leave the country. The only people who feel like they have to stay in the country are marriedgays, especially beta providers with kids. Anyone else can say frick you guys, I'm outta here and skip town whenever they want. This goes for people in their own country as well.
>Because you can always change that and leave the country.
Alright, and supposing you're not WE or American and SEA is actually a step-up for you, prospect-wise? Not everyone is trying to be an expat to have an oriental adventure.
And besides, you're saying
>w*ites are not getting hired for low-salary positions because they demand higher pay, and they demand higher pay because they don't have to work these jobs
How does that make sense? You either accept the market or don't, not the other way around
Shawty owes me secks
You can work in timeshare in Phuket or Koh Samui with no education whatsoever. Depending on your people skills (likely none if you're on here) you can make $300 - $400 a day if you're good. You have to hand out scratch cards snd pretend people have one a star prize and get them to agree to a 90 minute sales presentation. I did it for several years in several countries before I went TEFL then real teacher.
*won a star prize
Alright, I'm legitimately asking, so be patient with me:
>white
>6'10" tall
>SighSee
>9" wiener
Provided that I'm alright with sucking dick, what's the best country to begin a lucrative career as a pornstar/manprostitute?
big if true
Potts mentions you can "clean toilets in China" while travelling and work your way towards expenses like this. Is this still true? Was this ever true, actually? I'd imagine getting a job as a white tourist out of the blue for short-term is nearly impossible, unless you want to human traffic yourself