This time again, what's the most overrated or underrated place you've been to?
>Overrated
Barcelona. It's so chock-full with trash people it renders many attractions downright unenjoyable.
>Underrated
Copenhagen. Liked it more than Stockholm or Oslo, almost as much as Amsterdam, but it flies under many radars.
Reminder: overrated doesn't mean worst, underrated doesn't mean best.
I'll give you an actual factual underrated hidden gem that nobody talks about
>Sucre, Bolivia
Beautiful old town, not globohomosexual AT ALL, super clean, sort of fancy but in a really nice way, very nice amenities and also at a manageable altitude compared to its other Bolivian peer cities.
Not gonna waste my time on overrated. We all know them.
I like it when posters use words that let me know they are uneducated, gullible, and have opinions worth ignoring.
No one asked the progressive fundamentalist's hatefueled opinion.
I'm going here next year, glad to hear it. Are the parties still fun even if I don't do coke? Anything else that's worth seeing nearby? Planning on Uyuni, Sucre, Oruru, La Paz, maybe Titicaca.
It was pretty chill for me honestly. Found a great hostel with a great social atmosphere and just had a lot of great nights that weren't too crazy. I'm sure you could find that though. The coke situation in Bolivia is pretty subdued overall.
Cool. Name of the hostel?
villa oropeza
>Overrated
Singapore. Miserable people, dull city with no soul. Underwhelming food.
>Underrated
Detroit. Met really nice people, expected lots of druggies and begging, but actually only got asked one or two times and not aggressively. Great food and entertainment options. Fun, easy women.
Tell us more about your stay in Detroit
nice thread
>overrated
Barcellona (shady shithole, didn't like it a bit)
Tokyo (too big, soulless concrete jungle)
Paris (10/10 style but really full of brown people)
>underrated
Venice (don't care if it's crowded, it's the most beautiful and unique city in the world)
Nagasaki (what a hidden gem, and people still waste time at Hiroshima, unique building and Chinese influence, the bay is one of the most beautiful places I've been)
Prague (smallish, cool buildings, good beer, eastern Europe without being a commie shithole)
I can’t imagine Venice and Prague being underrated. You know that word means right?
he’s right tho
>10/10 style but really full of brown people
thats most european cities though
>Overrated
India. I don't get the appeal. The memes are more than true, it's dirty, smelly, everyone tries to scam you, and the people are dumb as shit. I guess girls like it for the "muh spiritual retreat vegetarian food" thing.
>Underrated
Germany. There are many nice cities and smaller towns that are comfy, and you can find nice food too. And of course all the castles and history.
last time i posted here i had an army of weeb homosexuals sperging
>overrated
Tokyo and Kyoto
>underrated
small town japan
>overrated
Thailand. Prices are triple what they used to be and locals are just scamming white guys plus boomers have moved in making it insufferable.
Most of scandinavia. Literally nothing to do and expensive with socially awkward people.
>Underrated
malaysia, plenty of unexplored areas, great food, great people and cool towns
Lemme guess, you haven't been to Thailand. Everyone I've talked to who has actually been there raves about the country.
>Overrated
Los Angeles. Don't really need to explain, yet lots of people still want to go there for some reason.
Kyoto. Not a bad place by any means, but everything just feels very aggressively commercialized and touristy. There are just so many other places around there that are better. Try going a bit south to Osaka instead.
>Underrated
Ipoh, Malaysia. Seeing the cave temples and jungle landscape make you feel like you're walking into a post card. Food is great too.
Interesting because your opinion on Kyoto is exactly my opinion of Osaka. I mean shit man it has a Universal Studios lol
>everything just feels very aggressively commercialized and touristy
i think they just know what they can exploit for tourism and make it easy for people to do it. this also keeps people out of normal life in kyoto and funnels tourists from zone to zone. it is efficient and makes life in kyoto not a bad thing for kyoto natives.
Literally how could you feel that way about osaka vs kyoto. Kyoto at least has a bunch of parks and pretty scenic nature. Osaka is pretty much "really big japanese city but not tokyo"
>Overrated
New York City
Place is all money and depressing jf you think about it for more than 2 seconds
>Underrated
Boise, great smaller city. Nice city center and hikes. Rest of the state is better but we talking cities
Entertainment in NYC is world class tho. There’s a hundred concerts every night, broadway, world class food or street hot dogs, museums, sports. NYC has everything except great outdoors options
Where the hell do I go to get a girl like pic related
judging from the commieblocks it looks like Russia
Booking my flight
Take a time machine to 2006
:'(
if it's really Russia that's not 2006, looks like 2019+ judging by the road markings.
t. Orc
if you have to ask - you dont
I just got back from Barcelona and agree it’s overrated. Glad I gave it a shot, won’t go back. Lots of junkies and beggars and sketchy people in touristy areas
>Overrated
Venice. Feels like Disneyland or an open air museum. All the shops are tourist shops and all the people walking the streets are tourists. It's beautiful but there's nothing authentic or Italian left.
>Underrated
Tallinn. One of the best cities in Europe. Absolutely fantastic old town with so much to do. Very modern new city with good public transport.
>Overrated
Madeira, can't deal with all the hills and there is barely any flat surface. Looks nice on pictures though.
Bellagio, not worth the effort to get there, there are similar and less crowded places close by.
>Underrated
I guess Zakyntos is underrated because most just know the shithole Laganas, but the rest is really nice. Also Germany.
I can see your fatness thru the text
what kind of fricking loser thinks fricking Zakynthos is underrated and Madeira overrated holy shit
>Overrated
Where you live
Places you've been to
>Underrated
Where I live
Places I've been to
this but the other way around
foreigners should frick off
>Copenhagen
I live here and I think it sucks. What did you like about it?
>What did you like about it?
Very wealthy, great metro, great modern architecture, I loved the lakes area, less trash-tier people than in other Euro capitals. I also liked Christiania as a concept because it keeps the druggies in one place.
What do you dislike?
>overrated
Prague, Paris, Barcelona, London, Berlin, Budapest, Jerusalem, Croatia,
>underrated
Cairo, Kyiv, Gdansk, Krakow, Istanbul, Albania, Herzegovina, Gibraltar, Aswan, Andalucia, Madrid
Generally, western european cities are roach-infested, overpriced shitholes where everything is commercialised. Go further eastwards, and you get a bit more soul, a fair price, more real people, and a better experience.
>Overrated Kiev
Everybody scammy and hostile. Yeah, yeah, coom, coom, coom. It's not as great as I was made to believe. Won't be back.
Lived in both Cairo and Kyiv, so I guess I saw another side to the cities. I can see why both could be hated, but if you gitgud with the language, get off the main spots, and get past the filter of Ukrainians being stereotypically cold and rude on the surface, and Arabs wanting to harrass and scam you non-stop, you have 2 very kino cities.
I found in places like Barcelona and Prague, that it's so saturated, there's nothing to uncover, and people don't give a frick. There's no warmth or humanity, you're just another line on the balance sheet.
>Cairo
This one's hard to believe.
Not him but Cairo is like most big cities where your experience can vary greatly depending where you go and who you’re with
Bottom of the broken heart!
I believe it. Having been to Israel it’s actually pretty comfy in middle eastern countries.
>Cairo
No
>I once watched israelitetube slop with a silly face on the thumbnail so it must be right
You can have moments in Cairo which are unique as frick and which will stick with you for a long time.
>Walking around Dahshur and Saqara pyramid complexes
>Taking a Tuktuk around the outside parts of the city, weaving between traffic and watching an entirely different world pass you by
>The eery hum of hearing 1000s of calls to prayers at once while looking out over the city from near the citadel
>Taking a falluca on the Nile at sunset and floating in the middle of one of the worlds craziest cities
>Drinking in old colonial style bars and restaurants and feeling like youre back in the 19th century for a moment
>Getting lost in old Islamic Cairo, one of the most cyberpunk Midgar slum tier places I've been to
>walking around the sheer chaos of the crowds of Khan El Khalili market
>Walking around an abandoned Ottoman palace bang in the centre of the city, with no homosexual regulations
> Smoking shisha and playing backgammon in the middle of the street on beautifully warm evenings
>Driving around in taxis on a Friday morning as everybody is praying, and feeling like you have the city to yourself before watching it erupt into life as it all ends
>Sitting on terraces overlooking the city and having that weird feeling of watching 20+ million people going about their way below you
Seriously, once you get past the filter, theres based moments to be had in Cairo. There's something about the aesthetic and feel which makes you feel as if you're in an RPG. If I were to write a fantasy, so much would be inspired from this city.
Sounds boring. There are much better places to go without the hassle.
Saved. Thanks bro. Finally someone understands what 'underrated' means. This dude
needs people to tell him how to feel about a place rather than trying to make the best out of a place. People like him are why I have to travel solo now.
>"Saved. Thanks bro"
>"this dude needs people to tell him how to feel about a place"
That's literally what you just did you go there. Oh wait, you're replying to yourself, so clearly shilling for Cairo.
No moron that's not me. You are the one who posted a thumbnail of an e-celeb which is the trend right now to hate on Egypt, whereas someone on SighSee shows how he made the most out of a city with a bad reputation with actual things to do. Just take the L and stop shitting up the board.
>"someone told me it's cool, which is good"
>"someone showed you it's bad, which is dumb"
the fact you think it's different is hilarious. But then again, you're pretending to be others and relying to yourself.
I'm not arguing with you. Just stop shitting up the thread.
>with no homosexual regulations
Got me sold. If there's one thing I hate it's fricking cops.
I'm afraid of cairo being dirty as all hell tho. Wouldn't even wash my hands in the sink there
>Not gonna bother listing all the places off the beaten path that no one's even ever heard of.
literally the point of this thread
>Overrated
Oporto, it's a nice place and i went on the wrong season (Off-season winter), but i didn't find it appealing enough to want to go back, maybe it's better in summer?
Berlin, depressing and nothing cool to do
Milan, also boring
>Underrated
Luxembourg city, i've not heard of anyone
going there but it's quite a nice place, nice views and architecture, free transport, moderate prices, enough for me
Helsinki, the memes are real but i consider it a neat and interesting city, going back
Nicaragua, i went during an international event so it was probably manufactured but san juan del sur was nice enough to not hate it
Malta during offseason, nice beach, without the swarm of people, i liked it
>Overrated
Talinn. Entirely fake city - the entire identity is built up around hating Russians, at the same time as 25% of their population are Russian. All the signs in the city centre are in English, to a totally disgusting degree. TV tower and KGB museum was fine, I guess.
>Underrated
Lisbon. Extremely comfy city, many establishments have been there for hundreds of years. Beautiful, lots of stuff to see and to do in the surrounding areas.
ok Ivan
Nah he’s right butthurt belters are the most annoying breed of posters and people on the internet. I can’t go a day without seeing a smug Georgian or pole making a video spewing their shart opinion about the war or whatever. Wannabe westerners while at the same time the west fricks then at every turn
The posting about the war and the raving moronic polish and other Slav nationals makes snes if you think about how many people are dying in Ukraine and they are all scared that will happen to them too so they are really just coping. They are at the mercy of America basically everyone in Europe hates them and would not help out if Russia tried to take their asses too.soon there will be so many dead Russians and Ukrainians nobody will be piping up anymore in an annoying tone. They will all go back to being irrelevant and living under Russias bootheel kek.
delusional ziggers lmao
go back to NAFO twitter you reddit gaylord
>hate russians
>25% are russians
You don't think that maybe these two are for some reason connected?
That's like saying the experience of Americans disproportionately hating blacks makes it somehow inauthentic compared to somewhere like fricking Greenland's relationship with blacks.
No, I mean it on a deeper level. If you're Estonian and hate everything Russian, it requires you to reject all history before 1991.
Black person have you been to tallinn? russians are their equivalent of nogs or pakis. they live in a parallel society there and are vastly overrepresented in shit like hiv and crime rates
Maybe Russians are over-policed?
There was almost nobody there who wasn't Russian. In London there are many white britons, but in Talinn I had a hard time even asking for directions in English - had to use my (very bad) Russian (zdrastvitse, izvinitse, ... gde eta ulitsa [...] ... spasiba, spasiba bolshoj)
I didn't find them malicious or unpleasant otherwise, they were just bad at English and quite surprised I spoke Russian, but friendly. There were some Russian restaurants, stores, and cafes (Cafe Narva for example) and they were clean, normal, etc. Not like in London where they can be quite dirty, strange smell of spices, etc.
I am not Russian. If anything, you're the butthurt ones - I point out that Talinn is greatly overrated and people jump to the defense of ... Estonia, as if the only reason anyone could find a flaw with it is that they are Russian themselves.
This is also true, yes. They are making pretty serious efforts to wipe out the Russian language entirely.
Also they live in special areas, and these areas are covered up. To go from the airport to the city centre, the bus goes through Lasnamäe, a Russian-majority district. But there are no stops there. Despite there being things to do and see, it is as if they want to hide it from tourists.
And all to prop up the illusion of Balticism.
Never been to Baltics but a friend of mine who has said Lithuania was the best Baltic state because its the least Russified one.
What? You are one deluded butthurt russian.
Fun fact: if you look at the map of HIV/AIDS in Estonia it's most common in the areas where Russians live
>Overrated
The US, Brazil, China, France, The UK, Sweden, Italy, Germany, UAE (slightly), Belgium
>Underrated
Philippines, Taiwan, Malaysia, Hungary, Estonia, Ireland (slighty), Georgia, Vietnam (North), Qatar, Maldives, The DR (slightly because the people were suprisingly cool but loud, and I'd pass on residency)
t. Dutchman with a funny last name
Save the best for last!
The Keys to Davidokun on the prowl.
🙂
Whatever you do, dont visit Marseille
Marseille is fine for a day or two, and before dark.
>Overrated
Athens. Probably the ugliest major city I've ever been to. The Acropolis was neat to see, but everything else was underwhelming and drab.
>Underrated
West Virginia. Certainly not the best place to visit in the US, but I was very pleasantly surprised by it during a road trip a couple years ago. Perfect for when you only have a few days for a trip.
I went there and immediately went directly to the islands of the coast for the entire day. Judging by the few minutes I spent in the town proper, I made the right choice.
> overrated
Barcelona for me as well. They hate tourists so much they had paid walks of unfinished buildings, some covered in scaffolding. You had to sign a fricking waiver that stated it wasn't the fault of the company if you slipped and killed yourself. Jesus christ.
Cairo's a must see city. Your perspective and experience of the world isn't complete without having spent some time there. Same goes for London, Istanbul, Rome, Jerusalem, Moscow, NYC, etc.
Cairo is not worth seeing under any circumstance other than “how do I want to waste my time?”.
Pic related is the type of degenerate shit you will find in Berlin. The tragic part is that it's not authentic degeneracy, but this contrived attempt to appear rebellious but comes off cringe. Germans can't into punk without coming off sounding like an HR manager. And to top it all off, it's in ENGLISH. There is so much English and American pop culture worship everywhere to an unbearable degree. The place has zero magic, yet it is lauded as some Austin-esque weirdo playground. It is not. Somehow they manage to be disgustingly dirty yet sterile at the same time.
>muh Berghain
It's literally just a gay warehouse but more elite. We have The Eagle here in the US and it's just piss orgies and terrible techno music. Berlin sucks so much.
Germany sucks in general. Hope the recession makes it collapse again.
>it's just piss orgies and terrible techno music
I'm sold
To be fair, Berlin attracts a lot of British and US gays that go there for fetish stuff. I think Folsom Berlin just happened.
>terrible techno music
Gays men have the worst taste in music, you're not wrong.
>Overrated
NYC, 50 years ago wouldve been better
>Underrated
Sichuan Province China. Superb food, great locals, sweet pace of life
You think she gave herself the eyebrow scar?
I bet her spine is very snapable
If you know what I mean.
Everywhere is overrated or appropriately rated that is a travel destination. However Switzerland really is damn beautiful and quiet. Many places are beautiful but they have laws to keep it peaceful.
I'd say in Korea hiking is underrated by travelers. No one thinks to go there and hike up mountains, but if you do, you'll meet many locals doing so.
I also think fee people venture out from major cities that are not resorts. Okay everyone does Bangkok and Phi Phi, Bali, Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto, Amsterdam, Budapest...what about the rest? There is more to countries and if you don't really see the country and talk to the people it's like you went there just to say you did
understand what you're saying but I disagree. unless you actually live there, the only opinion you'll ever have is that of a tourist. nothing wrong with it, but I cringe every time someone wants to flex that they went to the lesser known cities like a Real Traveler™, took some selfies, went to a pub, then went back to a hotel. you're still a tourist.
Travel bragging sucks. The only people who care about your time spent in some rarely visited place are people who are interested in visiting it themselves, and would like some pointers.
>unless you actually live there
Another false dichotomy of superiority. People who live in a foreign place tend to be full of their own biases. Their local knowledge is valuable, but disregard their opinions. Travelers who visit numerous places tend to be less biased and more likely to give an evaluation of a place that is both useful for other visitors and reasonably unbiased. However, their local knowledge tends to be very limited.
>you're still a toorist
I do not maintain a residence in my home country outside of work periods, so technically, I reside wherever I am staying at the moment.
Overrated:
Hong Kong - Very expensive, pushy people and actually boring without much to do except go shopping. Economy feels like it is for Russian bawds to go after they made their money from some rich arab shitting on their breasts in Dubai
Underrated :
Taiwan - Friendly people, the East Coast is beautiful, easy to navigate and get around.