>Penquin Classic: $13. >YA fantasy and airport romance: $5 (buy one get one free)

>Penquin Classic: $13
>YA fantasy and airport romance: $5 (buy one get one free)
Why are old white man books so fricking expensive?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I swear I remember reading something either from a self-published Amazon author or an actual publishing executive, that if you’re reading classic literature they assume you have more money and charge accordingly and if you are reading supermarket/airport fiction they assume you’re a povertygay
    Anything more than $10 for a paperback is overpriced, I said what I said
    James Clavel’s publisher wants $25 each for Shogun in paperback split into two books, absolute madness

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's true, classics are also required course material and paid for by parents or loan money, and priced accordingly. Anything other than the high school material is usually also in a trade format and on a slightly higher grade of paper and binding, which does cost more.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >James Clavel’s publisher wants $25 each for Shogun in paperback split into two books, absolute madness
      I paid $25 for the hardcover special edition (new condition) back in 2022. The price of that book is inflated thanks to tvBlack folk.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a brand thing. Penguin is a premium brand and you are paying for the cover to look nice. If you want affordable, buy Dover Thrift, they are basically always under $10 and it's perfectly readable.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you are paying for the cover to look nice.
        Am I?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The lines on it don't even line up with other penguin books.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            what do you mean?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              They're all the same height but they keep using different stripes and even when they use the same stripe it's always a bit wonky

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The ones with orange letters are from the past series.

                https://i.imgur.com/VnJPpc4.jpg

                Like lol, they have other styles which look far better than this sleek inconspicuous yet failing at being uniform style.

                They're made by different printing factories or whatever, hence the different sizes and yes, it's a bit annoying.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The ones with orange letters
                The orange for the name or the orange for the "penguin classics"
                Oh nvm I get it already i think

                The all white letter ones are the new ones; I hate them

                Anyway, I didn't know they were made by different factories but you'd at least expect them to get the dimensions right. They're all as tall as the other but somehow the lines cant match up? What a joke. I like the blue ones more anyway.
                But yea, its not true to say you pay for the cover instead of the brandname.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                > I like the blue ones more anyway.
                I haven't seen those. What are they like?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The modern classics I mean. Look far more uniform and pleasing to the eye. Superior paper imo. Penguin has so many formats, it's ridiculous. They have more than these too.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah, that's blue? It's more like green to me, maybe I'm colorblind or something. Yes, these are more pleasing in general and also they choose better art for these (far better curated).

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Look at them:
                https://www.penguin.co.uk/series/PENMODC/penguin-modern-classics

                Far better art 🙂

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                And what's even funnier is that they print old classics in a far superior format as well. The black format is for these older classics but they also have this https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/series/MLC/modern-library-classics/

                tldr;penguin publishing doesn't make sense

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                They have absorbed and bought some many publishers and created so many imprints that they're a mess. Let me show you something else, just give me a sec.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                And what's even funnier is that they print old classics in a far superior format as well. The black format is for these older classics but they also have this https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/series/MLC/modern-library-classics/

                tldr;penguin publishing doesn't make sense

                Apparently they have a relatively new big book format that they use for special cases (I haven't encountered any other book but this one). I don't know if you guys know any other example of this format in Penguin Classics.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Another pic. It's significantly larger as you can see.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/m16Fddh.jpg

                Another pic. It's significantly larger as you can see.

                Lol yea this is exactly what I mean. How can other publishers be consistent but the biggest housename can't?
                Difference in paper and glue is big too. I've heard the new ones are especially heinous.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I feel like they intended to make that book a Penguin Deluxe but at the last minute they went "Frick it, let's just publish a massive Penguin Classic lmao" and that was it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ?t=193

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The penguin edition of Samuel Richardson's Clarissa is like that as well. It's not new.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Interesting. Do you happen to know what this format is called or where can I see the list of all the big Penguins?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It doesn't look like penguin distinguishes those bigger editions with a name. I can't find a list either.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Amazon shows book dimensions. Obviously doesn’t help with a list but right off the bat you are looking for long books. Pretty sure their bible is big too

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're right btw. It's massive.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I saw it only once irl, it's a big guy.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                nice font and nice unique color, I like this series and almost everything in my apt is black and white

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The all white letter ones are the new ones; I hate them

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Like lol, they have other styles which look far better than this sleek inconspicuous yet failing at being uniform style.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I stand corrected. You are paying for "Penguin Classics" to be on the cover and not much else.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >out of the many pretty paintings of Japanese art, they went with this
          I don't understand people sometimes, man.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is why I pirate books

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sailing the High Seas

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      All of these are public domain anyway, just print em out and enjoy

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    to filter the plebs

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Buy the book, take a scalpel to 8 pages from the last two chapters.
    Return it to the store.

    It's a victimless crime.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >YA fantasy and airport romance: $5 (buy one get one free)
    where can I get this, even the second-hand stores here go for more

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    used bookstores homieaaaa

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      why dont you shop at a local used bookstore?

      Hey anon, have you considered visiting a bookstore where they sell used books?
      It might be cheaper even if it like totally doesn't relate to what you are like saying.

      Used book Chads'

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I’m autistic and I refuse to buy any book that isn’t brand new or write anything in them

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why dont you shop at a local used bookstore?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Rjc13Ph.jpg

      used bookstores homieaaaa

      Used book stores fricking suck
      It’s all boomer slop and the books are infested with bookworms
      Are you guys a bunch of big city gays?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I got a first edition of The Crying of Lot 49 at a rural used bookstore for one dollar

        Also there's a very good used bookstore in the not exactly big city of Albany NY

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You’re just a moron who lives in a shitty area. Even my mediocre city has a great used bookstore. Also, there’s eBay, where used books can be had for $3-$4

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yesterday's haul, I think you are going to the wrong bookstores.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nothing good it seems

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hey anon, have you considered visiting a bookstore where they sell used books?
    It might be cheaper even if it like totally doesn't relate to what you are like saying.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Have you ever considered getting a better job? If you have to think for even a second when buying some new Penguins, you’ve fricked up somewhere along the way

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I used to have a nice job but then some chink decided to rape a pangolin or a bat or whatever and here we are. I have to analyze every book purchase beforehand. The good thing is I know what are the best editions of most Western (and some Eastern) books.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >and here we are

        It's been over 2 years since that all blew over - whatever nice job you used to have clearly did not have value (otherwise it would still be around post-COVID) or you were not good enough for said job and your bosses decided to trim the useful fat from their company and used COVID as a great excuse to do so. Get a better job instead of penny pinching over books you should have read years ago.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          > Get a better job
          Yea, I will now get the best job in the world. Why didn't that occur to me? What a dummy. Thank you, Anon.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Highly doubt that you put in the work or practice for getting a good job

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I used to have a nice job but then some chink decided to rape a pangolin or a bat or whatever and here we are. I have to analyze every book purchase beforehand. The good thing is I know what are the best editions of most Western (and some Eastern) books.

          Have you ever considered getting a better job? If you have to think for even a second when buying some new Penguins, you’ve fricked up somewhere along the way

          >just get a better job
          bro if you don't have a useful degree you cant just into a well paying job. What kind of fantasy world do you live in? Do you think I wouldn't rather be doing something useful other than waiting tables while I'm going to school? Waiting tables is about as much money as I can make at the entry level and its still only about ~$20/hr on average. Not like I can get a cert or something while I'm going to school either. I've got 4 more years of suffering as a table-slave until I can do some engineering work. Maybe I'll get lucky and land an internship that can pay my bills in year 2-3.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can always go back to school to get that degree that gets you mullah. You are lazy and that’s what you’re poor

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Reread the post

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I have a useless degree, I deserve equal pay as valuable professions!
            Do anons like you really exist? Are there people this moronic?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              do any of you have reading comprehension at all

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You should have budgeted and saved your money better so you’re not working like a wetback struggling to buy a $20 Penguin

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm a thirdie and reading a worthless waste of space Black person cry over getting paid "ONLY" $20/hr enrages me in a primal, animalistic way.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >browncel cant into economics
              Yea I bet you feel rage like some kind of monkey all the time. I wonder why

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >uppity poorgay with delusions of grandeur
                A walking cliché.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I make more than you but you obviously dont understand how money works. 20 dollar in your favela seems like a lot but it doesnt buy you a troony prozzie like you're used to in a big city filled with actual humans
                drop a paypal link boy, white mans burden and all

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                To tack onto this, before you get your panties in a twist, im not that anon who makes 20 an hour but I lmao at being proven right
                >Yea I bet you feel rage like some kind of monkey all the time. I wonder why

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I can assure you that both me and my entire genealogical tree are whiter than your pathetic miscigenated manlet existance.
                >cant into economics
                Yeah sure you must suffer a lot, let me guess, you're going to cry about rent prices? About wealth distribution? Fricking gentrification? While you type on your Macbook while you eat your daily uber eats order and wonder why you can't afford a fricking book?
                have a nice day, mutt, have a nice day.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I make more than you but you obviously dont understand how money works. 20 dollar in your favela seems like a lot but it doesnt buy you a troony prozzie like you're used to in a big city filled with actual humans
                drop a paypal link boy, white mans burden and all

                Nah, you arent. Read this, and drop paypal if you want. Not gonna give you an original comment tho

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're in for a rude awakening if you think an internship will pay more than you waiting tables right now lol.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I dont think it will pay more but at least I won't be working with people that can hardly form coherent sentences and near a project of some value. If it weren't for the fact I'm in school now I'd almost rather be homeless than doing this fruitless labor even if it pays decent. At the end of the day my job is more about socially manipulating my manager and coworkers than it is anything else, which is tiresome to the soul.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hey OP, why bring up the price? Just earn more, no need to question why some things are more expensive than others. Just get money and go to a used bookstore.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >paperback $10
    >hardcover $20
    I will forever consider these the only acceptable prices for new books.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You shouldn't be buying classics new. Those companies hate you and the men that wrote those books and just use them to help prop up the absolute tripe they publish these days.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    AFAIK it's because most penguin classics do not sell much at all and so they increase the prices a lot
    It's also the fact that the less likely a book is too sell, the more expensive it'd be to produce

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What do they sell a lot of then?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jane Austen

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yea but i was just reminded of the fact that most of the more recent penguin publications sell less than a 1000 copies.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yea but i was just reminded of the fact that most of the more recent penguin publications sell less than a 1000 copies.

          Oh sorry, less than one dozen.
          You'd think their classics pay for the whole operation.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I only buy books from thrift stores. I’ve never spent more than $5; in fact, I usually spend less than half of that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      For reference, I got a Penguin edition of Don Quixote for $3. Now, in fairness, the previous only did underline and highlight some sentences.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >only
        owner

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Penguins look good tho

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >paying for books in 2024
    Ishiggydiggy
    https://libgen.rs

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ebooks are for povertygays or people on vacation

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >to have a book instantly, for no cost, with no clutter
        >poverty
        I'm better off than the ones buying shit

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My library is filled with books I bought for a literal loonie or toonie.
    Buy used, or use a library

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just download the gutenberg E-PUB file and read it on my kindle, or print it out into pocket reader size and bind it myself. I recommend all anons learn book binding, it's really easy.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do people really buy books? Just get a fricking kindle or kobo.
    >muh paper feel/smell//whateverthefrick
    Stop acting like a woman.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Dover Thrift is $2
    >Project Gutenberg is legally free

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >a genetic dead end who failed to attain a meaningful job in the most prosperous country on earth and resorted to work as a waiter (aka glorified serf) is trying to flex his wealth in an anonymous singaporean bookbinding club
    You can't make this shit up, I'd endure the fallout of a nuclear war if that meant erasing your country from existance.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      To tack onto this, before you get your panties in a twist, im not that anon who makes 20 an hour but I lmao at being proven right
      >Yea I bet you feel rage like some kind of monkey all the time. I wonder why

      Enjoie favela dweller, drop paypal link so you can get a big dick troony to gape your hole. In other words ooh ooh aah aah

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>YA fantasy and airport romance: $5 (buy one get one free)
    part of it is that those are mass-market paperbacks, which are far lower quality than penguin classics (even though PCs aren't exactly lavish) which are "trade paperbacks", or at least somewhere in between MMPBs and nicer trade paperbacks like NYRB or the Landmark history books

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's pretty easy to find cheap classics, but you have to expect that they won't be the same quality as the overpriced stuff.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're paying for the book, which is a luxury item that looks nice on a shelf.
    All of those works of literature are free.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where do eurobros order their books from? Can't find a good deal since bookdepository shut down

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dont know what Penguin is doing, have any of you noticed this supposed new series of books by penguin, new by design i mean.
    Like a complete solid color, with one painting/picture as a rectangle, and the title at the top.

    And these aren't part of the 'DELUXE Editons' line either. Just bigger in size than normal ones. There's nothing on the backside either, plain color, and the barcode. no blurbs/summary.
    https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/444052/the-peasants-by-reymont-wladyslaw/9780241568064
    https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460456/the-diaries-of-franz-kafka-by-kafka-franz/9780241695746

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They sometimes start a series or a label and then discontinue them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s quite large format so might not work for everything. It’s currently used for new translations, ‘major’ releases etc. Just a handful of titles a year really. Kind of like

      https://i.imgur.com/0eCND6z.jpg

      [...]
      Apparently they have a relatively new big book format that they use for special cases (I haven't encountered any other book but this one). I don't know if you guys know any other example of this format in Penguin Classics.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It looks massive. Is it worth reading?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The israelite

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The Pea

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Upvoted!

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jews will sell many things at a loss, because their true profit comes from further moroning the goyim.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Personally, I hate used books, I like seeing how the pristine book gets more and more fricked up as I carry it in my pocket all day, sleep with it in bed, throw it about, maybe tear a page or bend an edge by accident. Man that's satisfaction that book is "mine"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      what about a used book that looks new?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What a homosexual.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >sleep with it in bed, throw it about, maybe tear a page or bend an edge by accident.
      Sounds like you're bibliosexual.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can get a dover thrift edition of most classic novels for $3-6.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    that's why i buy cheap-ass mass market paperbacks (pocket books) second hand

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      signet is kino

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Classics are often really cheap on the used market.

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