any travelers who've been to Poland, preferably the southern part (Krakow, Wroclaw, Rzeszow) would like to share their story about how it was?
I'm planning to go there in a few months and I'm wondering where should I go and what to avoid.
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any travelers who've been to Poland, preferably the southern part (Krakow, Wroclaw, Rzeszow) would like to share their story about how it was?
I'm planning to go there in a few months and I'm wondering where should I go and what to avoid.
+1 for info on Poland. Anyone ever do a multi-city trip? What are the trains like? Are there any villages or smaller cities that are worth doing?
>What are the trains like?
Much better than they used to be in terms of speed and quality. Significantly less railroad overall though. The trains are almost all modern carriages with wi-fi and all that shebang. The whole network is however a clusterfrick of one national carrier who does the long routes and a multitude of smaller ones that service the local towns. All with their own websites, of course.
Use search aggregators like e-podroznik.pl or portalpasazera.pl. Koleo for a mobile app.
Keep in mind pricing is decided by demand algorithms. Weekend or early morning trips will be more expensive.
As for smaller towns, that depends entirely on how much time you've got and which big cities you'll be around. Expect to use the bus instead of trains (most are listed on e-podroznik).
Red circles are what's worth visiting, there's nothing to avoid specifically, it just gets more boring the more eastern you go. Lower Silesia is by far the best region in Poland, especially for tourism. I would recommend checking out Lubin, Legnica if you're into smaller towns, Zakopane if you're going to Kraków since its the staple place of Polish holidays. I'd definitely check out Gdańsk, nicest big city in Poland. Wouldn't recommend Wrocław - it became Ukrainian default place to live for some reason, but people are nice and I guess you can have fun for a day. Be aware that you probably won't meet many people with decent english in smaller cities. Definitely rent a car, roads for the most part are very good and views are worthwhile. Trains are very good as well but less flexbile. If you really insist on trains I recommend checking some routes going from Wałbrzych in the south-west direction, absolutely the best views. Avoid going in winter, May is the best month.
t. I live there and I have seen it all
>circles Przemysl
interesting, I was actually planning on going there since I'll be landing in Rzeszow
>Definitely rent a car
how does that work? I do have a license and a car in my own country, but the whole insurance part and perhaps getting scammed or accused of damages is what I'm weary of
but I thought about that option.
>Przemyśl
I circled it by mistake actually, it's allright the scenery is good, there is also a nice palace in Łańcut (main home of the richest Polish nobility man before 2nd world war).
>Car
You can rent one like everywhere in the world with Hertz or other company. Just make a booking on the web. When you show up make sure to take photos from every angle to minimize the risk of scamming. Generally speaking you're not very likely to get scammed in Poland as a foreigner. We like to scam our own people only. Be sure to avoid taxis in general, always take uber if you must take a lift. If you rent a car DON'T break the law, you can get ruined financially and you have to pay on spot as a foreigner. But really if you want to see cool castles or chapels made out of skulls etc you have to have a car. By the way Książ castle is probably the coolest one.
>malls
Gdańsk Forum is probably the best mall in Europe right now in terms of a vibe. Many, many foreigners there. Młociny in Warsaw is kinda cool if you're there. Any other city - nothing extraordinary.
>shops
Well... I don't really know what you mean? It's the same shit everywhere you go in Europe. I feel that almost everyone in their 20s and 30s actually buy everything on the internet. If you mean a hipermarket I recommend the largest Carrefours, usually they have the best stock, maybe Auchan as well but it always stinks there for some reason.
>restaurants
I don't know if you would like my recommendation there because If I live here I mostly choose other cuisines. I mostly like asian food and I just look up what is recomended by people on google maps. No point in remembering restaurants since they are mostly operating for a year or two and they close down.
>t. I live there and I have seen it all
what are your favourite restaurants and malls/shops?
Yeah I back this Ive been to Poland 10 times I dont know, my wifes Polish I go like every year.
Przemysl is cool and łancut is alright if youre into that sort of thing.
Rzeszow crazy youre landing there. My wifes town. Its alright nice city centre. Not much other than that. The pussy (pic).
Locals rave about the kebab joint but its shit.
Go to a club and dance to disco polo.
Ive hitched a lot in Poland they are easy and cool with it.
>Krakow try Georgian food its good.
Get a polish pancake thing giant hashbrown basically.
Zapekanke is a toasted sandwich my wife loves I think they are shit.
So basically Poland outside these 4 circles is a big bunch of nothing? What about Stettin?
Not the quoted (nor polish). But oddly enough I've been there. It is ok to spend a few hours, perhaps a day. Would not put it in my travel plans unless I I had other business there though.
Also, lots of germans. Not sure if they live across the border and just get there for cheaper prices or if they really go to visit the city. Hitler seems to still be an honorary citizen though. So there's that. But nothing you can't find better in Gdansk.
Warsaw is highlighted there too so 5 circles, not 4
And no, there is more outside these. I recommend visiting Poznań, Toruń, Łódź, Lublin and Zamość
nothing too interesting in krakow, but it had that nice 3rd world or second world country comfy feels, very beautiful. everything was cheaper too... but there wasn't much "to do" there, if that makes sense... its boring.
>it had that nice 3rd world or second world country comfy feels
When have you been? Poland is 1st world. There's nothing 3rd world or "second world" about Poland or Krakow for that matter
Should I get a train to Auschwitz or a coach?
unironically just book a tour that'll pick you up in krakow. I did one that went to the salt mines too. You have to go with a guide for both anyway I think
The thing putting me off was unironically just the inability to shit on a coach lol. I didn't realise just how far away Auschwitz was from Krakow.
My one stopped at a petrol station about half way with a toilet. I assume they would all do something similar because of all the boomers who join the tours
Going by train is far more authentic.
Don't forget to bring your swimsuit if you're going in summer!
>should I get a train to Auschwitz
Anon, I-
I lol'd.
I've done some cities in Czech, but never crossed into Poland. I really liked Český Krumlov and Prague. The beer was god tier and I liked the food because it was usually simple, sausage, grilled meat and uncomplicated soups. The fricking czech cronuts are good too. I'm into castles, kayaking, urban exploring, shit like that. Is there any reason I would want to cross over into Poland instead of doing an all Czech trip? Is there something in the south of Poland that's really fricking spectacular?
Poland has mountains, czechia doesn't
Poland has the sea and Gdańsk, czechia doesn't (czechia only has 1 city - prague)
Poland has Warsaw
Just skip it, not much to see there. Average Pole never goes there because they know its a scam. Wieliczka is right next to it and it at least looks nice
what's the best affordable gym in Krakow?
Krakow is a beautiful city. Great cafe there called “Camelot”. Take a bus to zakopane and enjoy the mountains.
What are the must-sees in and around Krakow? Auschwitz, Salt Mines, Schindler's Factory, museums, churches etc. Anything less obvious but still very worth going to?
I guess you could check out Nowa Huta if you want to see what ideal socialist city planning was meant to look like. Whether it's worth it is up to you.
Zakopane is just a 100km away. The Tatras aren't particularly tall but they're steep and picturesque mountains.
There's an amusement park very close to Oświęcim called Energylandia. Gayest name ever but the place is actually quite decent with a couple good coasters and a full water park zone open in the summer.
sekta selekta, national museum, philharmony
How safe is it to cross the Ukraine border? Lviv is traditional Polish clay so it would make sense to go there but idk if it's worth the hassle.
I was also wondering this since I'll be in Kraków in a couple months and I'd really like to go to Ukraine next, preferably exiting through a third country as well. Looked at the archives and most recent posts say border crossing is safe and relatively quick. The way I see it if you've got a NATO/EU passport you should logically be able to enter as a tourist without any issue, mine isn't but I'm also not expecting a lot of trouble with entry still being visa free and all.
Why would you want to? All the women are gone. The big cities were all bombed to oblivion. And Putin has essentially been threatening everything up to and including dropping a nuke on Ukraine. There's got to be a better place to go on a vacation.
Name one.
Literally any country would be better than visiting Ukraine in the middle of a war. Have you done Croatia?
Get a cheap flight over to Spain and take the train from Madrid down through the middle of spain and hit Toledo, Seville, Cordoba, Granada and Malaga.
>Have you done Croatia?
Admittedly, I've only been to Dubrovnik. Don't want to go back right now.
>Get a cheap flight over to Spain and take the train from Madrid down through the middle of spain and hit Toledo, Seville, Cordoba, Granada and Malaga.
Spain is as different from Ukraine as it gets, so I don't see how it's even relevant but I've already been to most of those. They're also all full of tourists year-round and Kyiv is surely safer than major Spanish cities (no offense).
Madrid had 3 million people and only had 30 murders the whole year in 2023. Ukraine had that many in one hour yesterday.
>"As different as it gets"
That's a very good thing.
It's relevant to mention to anyone dumb enough to travel Ukraine that there are better options. Literally any country would be better. Throw a dart at the map. Wherever it lands is better than Ukraine in war time.
Why is it a good thing to be different from Ukraine? What makes the sights and things to do in Madrid objectively more desirable for me as a tourist than the ones in Kyiv?
Madrid is well established as a world class culinary destination. Spanish wine is inexpensive and also considered to be among the best in the world. No one goes to the Ukraine looking for great food and wine. Madrid is one of the safest large cities in the world. There is a fast inexpensive rail system that you can take through the middle of Spain to see a bunch of other great cities like Seville, Granada, Cordoba, Toledo, Salamanca, Malaga, Segovia, etc. The weather is significantly better in Spain that in Ukraine. And in Madrid, you won't have to worry about the very real possibility of being murdered by the Russian army.
The only reason anyone ever went to the Ukraine was because the women were insanely hot and desperate, but they're literally all gone. Ukraine only had 40 million people and 7 million left. The hot women all left and went to Poland, Hungary, Czech and the US. I have an entire enclave of Ukrainian women living in my neighborhood in the US. When I go to the park, it's more common to hear Russian than English.
In midsummer, Ukraine would be more pleasant than sweltering Spain, especially with Europoors not having proper A/C units.
Spain has a very low murder rate, true, but word is that English-speaking foreigners are specifically targeted in the major cities. It doesn't matter what the murder rate is: a city is NOT safe if you as a foreigner are regularly being sized up by loitering lowlifes as a potential mark. Likewise, cities with a high murder rate are safe if the scumbags are kept in line and know better than to mess with a foreigner.
If you mog in-country, the pretty girls will be nice and smiley for you of course, but everyone else will treat you with coldness. If you are unattractive, guys will be less prickly to you, but the pretty girls will be rude and disdainful. Typical anywhere in the world.
>No one goes to the Ukraine looking for great food
I unironically associate Lviv with restaurants, far more so than any place in Spain. Absolutely fantastic food trips for pennies. Ingredient quality? Skills? The fact I'm dining at much better places than I'd usually be able to afford? No idea, but everything was always amazingly tasty.
Kyiv has this as well. Especially Georgian cuisine. Even if you could find that in Spain, it would be 3-4x the price and nowhere near as good in terms of quality and service
It's Ukraine, not "the Ukraine", and they don't speak Russian.
Many speak Russian. I grew up with a bunch of Russians and Ukrainians. Of the Ukrainians only one girl was from western Ukraine and spoke Ukranian. All the other Ukrainians I knew were from places like Odessa and Dniepropetrovsk and spoke Russian at home with their parents not Ukranian.
Just came back from Lviv. In Poland now. Lviv unironically feels 100x safer than Barcelona lol. Brown rapefugees in every major Spanish city
>Spain
In places like Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova nearly everyone is ecstatic to meet tourists. That also applies to Romania, Poland and part of the Balkans to a lesser extent. With that in mind why would any experienced tourist, who's already been to all of the basic b***h destinations, still choose a place where the lowest tier of immigrant (yes, even below - may God forgive me for uttering this word - middle-aged sexpats) is preferred over him?
I recommend Wieliczka salt mine if you're not claustrophobic.
How is Bialystok and the surrounding area? I want to see redneck Poland and bag a tradwife.
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Is the salt mine in Poland worth a visit?
Definitely. If you haven't been to any mines, it's going to be a very interesting place. If you have, it's more of the same but it does come with a cool and surprisingly large church at the end that is entirely hewn out of rock salt - basically the closest to IRL Dwarf Fortress you can get.
It's close to Krakow so yeah. You should also visit Ojcow NP, it's all in the vicinity
I’m from the US, Poland is the most first-world feeling place I have been. The women are very hot but they all smoke and are c**ty prostitutes.
Why do you people feel the need to just spout the most random dumb shit all of the time?
Been to Poland three or four times now. Been all over. A lot of the cities sort of blend into one in my mind because they don't feel that different from each other. The exceptions being Krakow (to an extent), Warsaw, and Gdansk. It's kind of boring, the women are hot (but are usually turbo c**ts like any other Baltic woman), pierogis are good, easy/cheap to get around the country.
krakow is beautiful go there
zakopane and tatra mountains are crazy beautiful go there
danzig ("gdansk") is the only other city worth seeing so although its north you should visit. get a scooter and you can ride most of the way past sopot and up to gdyna along the beach
be prepared for whiny ass b***hes to cry and moan that they have to speak english to you, that you dont have the exact amount of cash on you, generally that they have to do anything for someone else despite it being thier job, basically anything that inconveniences their petty lives
my favorite part is the airport when im leaving
>how does that work? I do have a license and a car in my own country, but the whole insurance part and perhaps getting scammed or accused of damages is what I'm weary of but I thought about that option.
poland has this app where u just walk up to cars and they open and you take the manywhere and drop them off anywhere (supposed to be within city limits basically). cant remember name just google it. i had enough trust on the app that i took a plaid and a 911 turbo they had downtown warsaw. probably one of the coolest things about poland. that and jabkas. those stores are dope as frick. the people are just assclowns. them being shit on this board nonstop is wholly justified
>be prepared for whiny ass b***hes to cry and moan that they have to speak english to you
Where did you encounter this? Haven’t had this happen to me personally. Also, were these people on the younger side? There is literally not a single worthwhile person in Poland above the age of 40. They are all obsolete dead weight living in some pathological communist bullshit. No manners, no class and they literally believe that smiling has some kind of ulterior motive lmao. Young people seem cool and switch between Polish/English seamlessly in my experience.
mostly warsaw to be fair. warsaw is a known shithole within poland
poland is different from other euro countries when it comes to age… the guys dont care to learn english. theyre very anti-english. but the girls all speak it absolutely fluently, in fact among the circles ive spent time in the girls often switch between english because of its easier to say certain shit. you’ll think some girl doesnt speak it and randomly she says a phrase in perfect native american. this is the same in all of europe. you can go to ficking albania and a 20 year old girl will sound like she grew up in la. not a single thing off with speech
and to the other guy yes polish girls love american white guys just like every other euro country. maybe a bit more because poland sucks and the chance at an opportunity to leave it is attractive, but germany, italy, sweden was all very easy for me dating. unironically at least 10x easier than america, which i mostly chaulk up to americen women being so fat i cant frick any of them. if ameircan woken werent fat it would be a dreamland, but theyre 75%(more?) overweight and its a huge turnoff to me. obviously why dating apps are so fricked there. for that reason i left and wont ever go back
>but the girls all speak it absolutely fluently,
>a 20 year old girl will sound like she grew up in la.
lmao can confirm,
I'm conversing with a Polish chick that browses SighSee and she has great English.
we might meet and go out when I'll be there.
>poland has this app where u just walk up to cars and they open and you take the manywhere and drop them off anywhere (supposed to be within city limits basically)
That's actually awesome.
>poland has this app where u just walk up to cars and they open and you take the manywhere and drop them off anywhere
mind telling me which? is it any one out of pic related?
> i had enough trust on the app that i took a plaid and a 911 turbo
of wow that does sounds fun. How much did it cost you to rent a 911?
i think Traficar? Or Avis? Basically car sharing/renting app. You can also download Lime whihc is app for renting electrical scooters - common and pretty good way to commute in cities. JakDojade for knowing which trams in city to take where.
so jealous for you. I am polish man and no woman wants to frick me, i have tinder, bumble , badoo whatever, almost no matches and if i get some i dont reply. I am not even that ugly, i would give 6/10 to me and i am lean looking, but women's expectations here are crazy, i am not very neurotypical as well. From my experience polish women will frick everyone but not polish males.
homie it’s because you are all bland as shit. You have no emotions, no charisma and you dress like dog shit. Jean shorts in the summer, plain navy/black puff coat in winter. You are like clones.
yeah sure. For example i know polish girl whose bf is fat balding korean she met randomly. But i am sure he is very "fun" to be around, lol. They would rather frick dogs than polish males, even if they earn good they lift a lot etc
>beat by a fat balding korean
Pole here. Polish women are invisible to me now.
> Entitlement over 9000
> Flat asses
> Ugly faces
> Ponglish
An average Thai girl mogs all of them and actually knows how to pleasure a man.
Im Polish as well and i have the exact same experience. I have no problems dating and hooking up abroad, but once i cross the border back to the country i suddenly lose all my charm. This country is fricked, women are indoctrinated since early childhood to disdain Polish men and look up to foreigners, I am fed up with this.
dawaj do azji, polki z kartoflowym ryjem są i tak mogowane przez inne europejki niz azjatki z biala skora
Lool i was in Asia last year thats exactly when i had this revelation, in Vietnam i felt i got high just by looking at the girls on the street. In fact i am returning to Asia this Year because just spending the winter months in my shithole small town convinced me that i have no future here. Here its even worse than in big cities because every half decent girl just moved out to a city so the men to women ratio is extremely unfavorable.
are you polish male too? Is it true that on vietnamese or thai streets woman are exstatic just from looking at white males, and standing in queues to frick them? Was this also your experience? Have you felt desired?
No its not like that, if they are overly extatic, then you can be sure they are prostitutes or gold diggers. You need them to show your interest and dedication just like with the Polish girls, but once You do that, You can be almost sure that they will reward You for that, unlike in Poland. Vietnamese girls are also a bit different than Thai girls, they tend to look for long term relationships more often. With thais it's a mixed bag, some are ok with hookups, some are more romantic and look for a long term partner, but generally it is easy to find both. I would stay away from the typical tourist areas though, because these tend to attract the money hunters.
are polish women that much into foreigners? I think it has way more to do with the fact that you have a huge diaspora so young people are more dispersed all over europe and on top that the "good and serious" women are married by the age of 24-25, by the age of 21 they're already in comitted relationships. so the single women available for you to date are either turbo c**ts who can't get along with anyone or prostitutes, that are prostitutes for many reasons.
for a bit of context all the nationalities complain of this behaviour on /int, the french, the brits, the germs, the italians, the spanish and so on, not to mention russians and ukrainians. maybe it's like others have already said, and foreigners are in fact more attractive for some mysterious reason
its called panek
911 was maybe 2500-5000 zloty a day. you can look on the app and see, i think. it took me like 6 months of using cars through that app for them to allow me to unlock the exotics
i lived in zlota 44 and befriended a ton of young polish guys who were banging bawds literally 24/7. its not that you're polish, it's that you're fricking and have no exoticness about you in poland. outside poland you'd do 100x better. "foreigner effect" is well known, it's always the same, women like foreign. maybe poles get less of it because nothing about poland is exotic for the last few hundred years, but i know polish guys who are fricking 9s in miami non-stop so whatever idea you have that being polish is holding you back is a fairytale. america sucks fat dick for american guys too, go anywhere else we're treated like celebrities (depending on the city, nyc is an exception)
myth. poles in warsaw dress quite well, the polish ugly meme doesn't hold up at all they're very handsome guys often, and they're more masculine than american guys on average. but i would say they're pussies around women... i never saw a polish guy approach a girl the entire time i was there, meanwhile american army guys on scooters are asking every girl they pass for a number. roosh wrote a book on poland and said it's the easiest he'd ever done pickup because polish guys are the lamest he's ever seen with their women. that's exactly what i experienced
>i lived in zlota 44 and befriended a ton of young polish guys who were banging bawds literally 24/7
>most expensive apartment complex in warsaw
>biggest socialmaxxed chads, apartment filippers, crypto millionaires are fricking women
>taking this as example of typical male experience
Hahaha, nice one mate
>poles dress quite well
True. Poles are what Romanians aspire to be, except Poles don't have to fake their style with knockoffs.
do polish girls like americans?
i'll rob you if you come
Their women being easy isn't a myth. You can be ugly quiet short Indian and you still can get 8/10
poland is not livable country from november to march unless you like gloomy, boring, sunless short days
>t. pole in asia
Peasant tier opinion, although not surprising as your family probably spent the last 1000 years growing cabbages for Germans in the summer.
Very good time you know?
In fact my family worked in switzerland in pharmacy so nice try poorgay. I am living a cool life in asia traveling from TH to Singapore while you cope and seethe in frozen woke europe because you cant even afford a ticket
>Switzerland in pharmacy
>Like there is anything to brag about lol
Literal peasant
t. Pole
cope poor homosexual and dont forget to kys, you will never have money to own a few apartments in three continents hahaha now go to sleep because tomorrow you need to wake up early to work physically as irrelevant unit
Oh my salty boy, just remember that you are worthless for our society and you are escaping because nobody likes you here. What is even there to brag about? Warsaw apartments are 10x more expensive than your shithole mudhut in rural Cambodia lmao.
100% Agreed
t. another Pole in Asia
/trv/'s law - "As a SighSee discussion grows longer, the probability of the topic changing to cooming in Thailand approaches 1"
most people here cant afford to own shittiest most rundown flat, or they are taking credit for 30 years to buy one. This is one big playground for bunch of greedy neoliberal c**ts who would sold their own mothers to foreign capital
Im visiting Gdansk for four days and afterwards would like to see "typical" Polish city with nice old town, not too much tourists and some sights. Any recommendations? Krakow is maybe not an option as Im going to Germany next.
Malbork
Poland is pretty and safe. Food is decent. It’s cold. The women look really good but are c**ty asf and all smoke. Still better than burger b***hes tho. Decentish cooming thanks to Ukies. Not super cheap but not super expensive. Probably one of the best spots in Europe overall, but their eternal seething of Russia will probably frick them one day in one way or another.
Next Stop Berlin, ZiZter! Pucciya Stronk!
It's like Russia but boring and shit tbh
it's so much like Russia that Russian propaganda even used a video of a Polish town to depict a Russian city ;3
Not even the nazis hated polish men like local women do its open season for any foreigner with automatic +3/10 boost
will poles do backflips if I come at them speaking beginner level polish?
As a male, I'd appreciate having someone to talk to in english outside of work.
A woman would probably get wet hearing english with a non-polish accent.
Yes. It is extremely rare for a foreigner to speak any Polish whatsoever.
Keep in mind though that while it will be appreciated, it does not mean you will be understood. Holy frick do non-Slavs butcher the pronunciation. Chances are whoever you'll talking to will just note the gesture and switch to English.