so would you rather live in the west or east?

so would you rather live in the west or east?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    East coast for cities west coast for nature

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly, i can kinda get this, Mount Ranier is a special fricking place and so are Banf, Lassen and Glacier. Not even to mention the Grand Canyon. But the Andirondacks man. Those mountains, lakes and autumnal foliage are something else. I miss Vermont in October when I'd start a morning off with some cider and a donut.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds comfy as frick. NE seems like the best place to live in the USA to me. A quiet village in New England with most things in walking distance, cool history, easy access to major cities and decent nature. There are similar places I would consider on the west coast but from what I've seen those are more for the superrich (unaffordable) and not necessarily a good place to start a family.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Heavily biased but you're on the money anon. Just moved back to small town New England and absolutely love it for exactly the reasons you mention. Live right on the town green and can walk to stuff, great sense of community, never gotta lock anything, it's great. Can hop in the car going any direction and never run out of weird old shit to discover. Plus it's quiet without being a rural backwater -- still close to civilization, the culture here values education, etc. The old Puritan mentality has its downsides and it's not Alabama cheap obviously but the value for the quality of life is amazing IMO.

          I still think the West has more dramatic scenery pound for pound, but I always felt this part of the country has a more compelling mix of nature and human elements if that makes sense.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If money were no object I would move to the PNW or Norcal without a doubt

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    West and it's not close. Both coasts are liberal but west has nature and better weather

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You don't know what liberal means.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        i lived in seattle for 5 years bud

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          My condolences

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I enjoyed it tbqh but the constant gray and the standoffish people turned me off eventually. Summers in the PNW are unbelievable though. 80 and sunny and it's daylight from 515am to 915pm

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Decades in NYC. I may not know what liberal means, but I sure know about the effects of a liberal government.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        High taxes, high crime, high numbers of nonwhites, high numbers of homosexuals.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just say run by ~~*them*~~

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >High taxes
          Until you factor in property tax. Blue states might take more of your income, but red states make sure you are just de facto renting your land from the government in perpetuity:
          https://www.rocketmortgage.com/learn/property-taxes-by-state
          Once you factor in property tax, the numbers close down drastically. If I earned $100,000 and owned a home worth $1,000,000 in California, I'd pay the same taxes as I pay in just property tax living in Texas owning a property that's worth only $300k.
          >high crime
          Red states have higher murder rates:
          https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
          And more gun crime:
          https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm
          And higher violent crime rates in general:
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_violent_crime_rate
          >high numbers of nonwhites
          Which we can translate to "good food" and "interesting culture"
          >high numbers of homosexuals
          The only people who seem to care about this are the violent, over-taxed criminals that are you typical red state inhabitant. No one else in the entire world gives a shit besides other violent, oppressed losers, like muslims.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >DC is the most violent place
            Gee I sure do wonder how that could be given how blue it is

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              If you zoom in to the city/county level on violent crime stats in those Southern "red states", you'd find the highest number of murders occuring in Black person cities who invariably vote blue. Liberals will say and do anything to protect their most loyal voting bloc.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >but red states make sure you are just de facto renting your land from the government in perpetuity:
            every state has property tax moron.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              There is significant regional variability in property tax rates, with the West and the South having lower taxes than the Midwest and Northeast. Texas is a notable outlier.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Black person areas in red states have more violence
            wow.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        i lived in seattle for 5 years bud

        Decades in NYC. I may not know what liberal means, but I sure know about the effects of a liberal government.

        Two people larping as the person you’re replying to

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Enjoy your eternal droughts bud

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate Californians but honey shit imagine wanting to live on the east coast lmao

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    west and it's not even a discussion. West without hesitation. West 100 million times and a million times more. What can the east even offer? Dead slat lands of midwest. Sweltering heat and moronic hillbilly mentalities and minorities of the south. Over crowded and grid locked traffic of the east coast.
    West is best.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      East Coast has better beaches and traffic.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Neither, thank God I left that shithole forever

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I left that muh shithole forever
      for what?
      >inb4 some third world latrine like colombia or thailand

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Midwest.

  8. 11 months ago
    West Coast Best Coast

    Is this seriously even a question? Who the frick wants to go to the overpriced east coast to freeze in the winter and then melt in the summer? To live in a 10 foot by 10 foot apartment that costs $2K a month in a shitty, dangerous neighbourhood? Broken elevator up to the 20th floor where you share a bathroom with neighbours? Outside is a soulless megopolis that’s ugly, jam packed/crowded, and has infamously bad public transportation? Everyone there is rude as hell and the only people who willingly move there by choice are 19yr old white girls that think they’re gonna get a fashion degree. Literally everyone else wants out.
    >there are other cities on the east coast besides NYC
    Go ahead and name one, I’m waiting

    If you want to avoid hipsters, stay out of Portland and San Fran. Hate crime? Keep away from LA. Hate obnoxious celebs and wannabes? Again, stay away from LA and Hollywood. Hate liberals? Don’t go to Seattle. But there is so much more natural beauty on the west coast. San Diego is overpriced and overrated but honestly not that bad, and I’m not a b***h so the libs and heroin junkies in Seattle didn’t bother me. Amazing city. Would love to visit Vancouver next

    Need I also remind you 2Pac was better than Biggie?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Californians are such weird baggies about their state I’m only 80% sure this is bait lmao.

      NYC and all of Europe mog the frick out of California other than the weather.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm from the east and I dont think NYC mogs anywhere it's a bad city, nothing nice in NYC. Vegas is better than NY, LA completely mogs NY, San Francisco is a decrepit shithole and its 100 times less decrepit than NY. What does NY even offer? Bars that are open till like 4 am, is that even something most places don't have?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >LA mogs NYC
          JFL, how do you even call LA a city

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I hate big cities but would 1000% rather live in NYC than LA. LA is soulless concrete for 75 miles in every direction

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you have money in Southern California, you live on the beautiful coast, not in the strip-mall suburban desert wasteland that is the California interior. NYC does not have anything comparable to California coast living.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >What is Westchester County

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            LA is cool if you know how to manage it (I live there) but NYC is better

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Vegas is better than NY
          Are you on crack? Vegas is a soulless void in the desert, barely even a city and bland suburban hell surrounding the strip. It’s beige and orange coloured housing sprawl with strip malls and power centres on the stroads

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I’ve been to Vegas like 10 times and NYC once and can say with 100% certainty that NYC mogs every other American city

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I wrote that as a Texan. I hate Californians. But the ale Big Appul is much worse than even LA, the 2nd place epicenter of shitty people. Also, the PNW is beautiful and the east coast ish just one big gray/brown ugly mess with narrow streets

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, yeah.
          We hate you too
          Even though we're ideologically the same, using the same mildly obscure internet forum, have the same hobbies, have the same heritage, have the same religious views, have the same political views of history, have the same taste in music, have the same love of nature

          But you're from Big Queer Texas so frick you

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            You know what? I respect it. Thanks for not being a b***h and replying to me, motherfricker. Hate you too

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            You know what? I respect it. Thanks for not being a b***h and replying to me, motherfricker. Hate you too

            is this a “tsundere romance” like in my animays ?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Texas sucks especially considering the size of the state, it should be so much better. There’s really not much to do except eat and get fat on greasy food.
          >gulf coastline
          Insanely average and worst coastline in the NA and ruined by oil rigs, literally any other coast in North America is more scenic

          Only place that piques interest is JSC in Houston and that’s not enough to get me to go to the humid hellhole that is Houston. Some good spots in Texas for its size, it should mog every state in the nation, instead it’s behind CA, NY, FL, NC, OR, WA, TN, etc.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I’m from RI living in NorCal. Eastern & Northern California mog at least half of Europe & all of the eastern US in regards to scenery. SoCal is a mixed bag when you deduct the Sierras - imo the beauty of New Hampshire, the Adirondacks, Vermont, Pennsylvania & Capecod are superior to SoCal’s scenery. NYC only mogs all SoCal cities, Sacremento and currently San Francisco proper.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Saratoga Springs

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I grew up there. It was a posh jock town but maybe it changed since then

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      West Coast sees much more extreme weather than you like to admit. From floods to wildfires, weeks of cold dreary rain in winter and weeks of scorching sun and heat in summer. Your towns are also overpriced AF, and West Coast people are very snobbish and unfriendly in my experience. The worst liberals in America, arguably.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t.beaner

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >rap hop reference
      kys

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Need I also remind you 2Pac was better than Biggie?
      He was a literal gay ballerina who constructed a fake gangster persona to capitalize on the emerging popularity of gangster rap

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Need I also remind you 2Pac was better than Biggie?
      There are like 20 other contemporary east coast rappers that are better than both of them.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It get irritated when I see these divisions based on state lines. The physiography changes at roughly 100 degrees west. The true division is where the corn and onions fields end and the cattle ranges begin.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >onions
      s_o_y

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    INLAND
    NORTHWEST

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would never leave NC for anything right now. Best East Coast state and it isn't even close.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Carolinas are both based. I don't get why anyone chooses to live in DMV when NC is 50 miles away

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        My family lives in central NC. It is comfortable and prosperous, with plenty of good jobs and a very mild climate in recent years. Wake County, NC is one of the few places in the USA that has never lost population in its entire history. In fact, only two decades since 1820 have seen the population grow by less than 10%. But I abhor the miles of urban sprawl, traffic-clogged roads, dirty sluggish creeks, spring allergies, summer humidity, overcast winter weather, and the days of non-stop rain that arrive at any time of the year. Also, there are a lot of Black folk in the Carolinas.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Career growth and salaries.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    no

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    East coast cities mog west coast ones and it’s more kino in general. West coast is too spread out

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    After eight years of extensive land travel around the USA, I chose the Colorado highlands (8000 ft elevation) as my place of residence from April to October. Weather is harsh, especially in spring, with wet, dry, cold and warm airmasses all battling each other for control of the continent. Nonetheless, the Colorado Rockies are one of the best places in America for the active outdoors lifestyle. The sun shines most every day, even on stormy days. Rain showers rarely last more than an hour. Mornings are always cool to cold, even in summer. No need for an A/C, just open your windows and let the cool clean mountain air in every night. Temps usually climb 25-40 degrees every day, thanks to the sun. Summers can be sunblasted, but temps almost never top 90 degrees, and the monsoon usually brings cooling clouds and refreshing showers by mid-July. People are not very outgoing here, but they have a "live and let live" attitude, and hard workers prosper here due to a chronic labor shortage. Housing is tough to find, but not impossible, especially if you are a highly valued employee. I pay $500 USD/month in rent for a kickass one-bedroom apartment an easy bike ride to town, no car required. There are endless acres of public land for every form of outdoor recreation imaginable (yes, even surfing on the river). No, I would not stay the winter up here, it gets too damn cold. April is enough winter for me.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jealous. Share some secrets, sir

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >March 2019, savings nearing zero, working a $10/hr part-time job in Arizona and paying $375/month for a room in a horribly filthy trailer shared with three other people.
        >I cold called a bunch of people asking about job openings, my boss calls me back, we interview, he takes a risk and hires me over the phone.
        >He is a very old-fashioned businessman with Iowa farmboy roots, a millionaire not afraid of hard work. He decides to work with my van dwelling lifestyle.
        >Spent 2019 sleeping in my SUV on public lands and working long hours every day, making $13/hr. Monthly expenses while car dwelling were a laughably low $400 USD, so I was able to save a lot of money.
        >In 2020 my boss fixed up an on-site office as an extremely basic studio apartment, offered it to me for $200 USD/month, raised my pay to $14/hr, and I moved in for the 2020 season. I hated my new life, was miserable and depressed, dumped job and house for epic travels.
        >Cold call my boss again after 12 months of travel, he hires me again because he remembered how I worked in 2019.
        >Spent the rest of 2021 working and sleeping in the minivan, pay raised to $16/hr.
        >Return in spring 2022 after spending the winter living in Mexico, back to sleeping in my van.
        >Take six weeks off in mid-summer for van travel, return in fall, get a raise to $18/hr.
        >My old apartment has been newly refurbished and expanded to two rooms, rent is now $500/month. The old tenant moves out and I move in, get the place furnished and feeling like home.
        >In 2023 I agree to supervise myself and work a longer seven month season, pay raised to $21/hr, plus some overtime, paid vacation days, many other informal benefits as well. >Finally establish permanent residency after 8 years of traveling and using a bullshit address. >Finally achieve financial security, able to travel and spend as I please, knowing I am irreplaceable and will always have a job and a house here in Colorado.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Based, I'm basically you even down to the years of timeline but the low IQ unable to plan ahead version

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      What fricking town

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Seconding.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I chose the Colorado highlands (8000 ft elevation) as my place of residence from April to October
      Buena Vista?
      Heard it's really good for chill offroad motorcycle riding

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Where do you live the rest of the year?

      >March 2019, savings nearing zero, working a $10/hr part-time job in Arizona and paying $375/month for a room in a horribly filthy trailer shared with three other people.
      >I cold called a bunch of people asking about job openings, my boss calls me back, we interview, he takes a risk and hires me over the phone.
      >He is a very old-fashioned businessman with Iowa farmboy roots, a millionaire not afraid of hard work. He decides to work with my van dwelling lifestyle.
      >Spent 2019 sleeping in my SUV on public lands and working long hours every day, making $13/hr. Monthly expenses while car dwelling were a laughably low $400 USD, so I was able to save a lot of money.
      >In 2020 my boss fixed up an on-site office as an extremely basic studio apartment, offered it to me for $200 USD/month, raised my pay to $14/hr, and I moved in for the 2020 season. I hated my new life, was miserable and depressed, dumped job and house for epic travels.
      >Cold call my boss again after 12 months of travel, he hires me again because he remembered how I worked in 2019.
      >Spent the rest of 2021 working and sleeping in the minivan, pay raised to $16/hr.
      >Return in spring 2022 after spending the winter living in Mexico, back to sleeping in my van.
      >Take six weeks off in mid-summer for van travel, return in fall, get a raise to $18/hr.
      >My old apartment has been newly refurbished and expanded to two rooms, rent is now $500/month. The old tenant moves out and I move in, get the place furnished and feeling like home.
      >In 2023 I agree to supervise myself and work a longer seven month season, pay raised to $21/hr, plus some overtime, paid vacation days, many other informal benefits as well. >Finally establish permanent residency after 8 years of traveling and using a bullshit address. >Finally achieve financial security, able to travel and spend as I please, knowing I am irreplaceable and will always have a job and a house here in Colorado.

      Based boss and nice job anon.

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The northeastern states beyond the megalopolis is the best part of this country in my opinion.

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    West coast is best coast

    t. European who has never been west of London

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >me
    >ohio boy
    >enjoy painting
    >always wanted to move to NYC
    >visited twice, each time for two weeks
    >avoided touristy stuff except MET because painting
    >time of my life

    Everything rational in me is trying to talk me out of trying to move there, but my gut says I won't be satisfied until I've lived there.

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I used to say florida was the answer but now with the property values sky high I'm not so sure, unless you're truly ballin

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wish badly to live among the natural beauty on the West Coast but I'm a city girl thru and thru xx. I can't drive so I'd need a man to chauffeur me around. Do they even have Dunkin out there? Lolz xx

    What's your fav national park?

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nevada, among it's other problems, has an issue that most places don't have any experience with. We share a long, completely open border with a place that has more people than Canada or Australia and New Zealand combined. I am talking about California. If you don't live in Nevada, you have no idea how bad it is. Every third car I see on the road has a Californian license plate. There is a mass exodus from that shithole and many come here. We're being flooded. And that isn't even mentioning the Mexican immigration. Please save us.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not just your state, pal. Probably worse in Nevada due to proximity, but all of the states surrounding California feel your pain. Every time I see a dickhead driver or clueless b***h behind the wheel in Utah they invariably have California plates. Idaho is overrun by those fricks, and Montana and Wyoming are slowly being infiltrated. On one hand, you can't blame people for wanting a better life with less crime and government interference, but then they bring their liberal social ideas with them and create the very environment they are fleeing.

      All I know is that Utah is still a relatively insulated and culturally isolated place that is conservative at its core from the mormon influence. Californians will find that their bullshit liberal ideas have no home here - yet.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It’s mostly conservatives fleeing to Idaho, Montana, Utah, even Nevada etc. Your gun laws attract conservative suburban types, I had a friend move there with his family. Also Utah is proof that white people mixed with Protestantism/Mormonism kills culture. Nothing going on in that state

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Also Utah is proof that white people mixed with Protestantism/Mormonism kills culture.
          You have something with this. Utah is probably the most bland, culture-less place around. Look at the food - tasteless and cringeworthy - like the people. But the good thing is that it only applies mormon culture.
          >Nothing going on in that state
          And that's how we fricking like it. It sucks, don't move here.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I wasn't trying to imply that we were the only ones. California has ruined Colorodo, for example, when they were the first to make weed legal. And other places are feeling their effects, but Nevada just gets hit worse than any other.

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The Big Bend region is the greatest part of Texas, purely Western, but very, very remote. The rest of the state is ugly and exploited, except for the Hill Country region - the easternmost part of the West, IMO.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Texas was the last good state, now everything is insanely overpriced and rural areas still don't have good internet.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It never was. Unless you’re talking about Galveston before the hurricane

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're both shit. The South and the Midwest are where it's at.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Where what's at? The butthole of America?

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    west cause thats where tupac lives 😀

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    West and it's not even close.

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’d prefer to live anywhere North if North Carolina and East of Ohio.

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    East Coast since it's only like an 8 hour flight to visit family in Europe

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    how is west virginia and utah ?
    i'm a foreigner

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Utah sucks it's extremely hot and dry, and the Mormons are overbearing, they look down on all outsiders so good luck landing a decent job here. Can't wait to move back to Oregon

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    With my father (because we work together and we co-own a business) we decided to move to North America. We will use a big part of our savings to move there (the investment deal, basically).
    No, really, where in the West Coast (or even East) it's the best to live, provided that we don't have money issues? Life quality, not too many crimes, and outdoors are extremely important for me.
    We will also move our business that caters to richgays, so we need somewhere with enough wealthy people.

    >inb4 why would you come here
    After traveling all around the world, we concluded that the US and some parts of Canada are ideal. That's pretty much it. We're from Western Europe.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you're truly that rich I would say some place on the CA coast south of the Bay Area.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        We're not crazy rich, we just have enough to get investment deal, that's why we are being extremely cautious. We cannot risk that much money for nothing.

        Where do you live the rest of the year?
        [...]
        Based boss and nice job anon.

        Mostly in Europe, but I travel every 3 months, even during lockdown.
        Looking more and more for a definitive place to settle down, I want to start a family.

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Arrogant West Coast homies are amusing me in this thread. Liberalism (I'm one) has destroyed every major West Coast city. They're overpriced, full of self-righteous buttholes, and not that fun. West Coast people are coasting on a 1970's reputation that doesn't exist anymore.

    New York and Chicago, for all of their problems... are FUN. Eat, drink, smoke (tobacco), whatever. Carouse and bar hop.

    West Coast nanny state gud buys simply accept from their feminized government they can't do shit. Fricking obedient millennial limp dick cucks need perspective.

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