Honestly, i can kinda get this, Mount Ranier is a special fricking place and so are Banf, Lassen and Glacier. Not even to mention the Grand Canyon. But the Andirondacks man. Those mountains, lakes and autumnal foliage are something else. I miss Vermont in October when I'd start a morning off with some cider and a donut.
Sounds comfy as frick. NE seems like the best place to live in the USA to me. A quiet village in New England with most things in walking distance, cool history, easy access to major cities and decent nature. There are similar places I would consider on the west coast but from what I've seen those are more for the superrich (unaffordable) and not necessarily a good place to start a family.
Heavily biased but you're on the money anon. Just moved back to small town New England and absolutely love it for exactly the reasons you mention. Live right on the town green and can walk to stuff, great sense of community, never gotta lock anything, it's great. Can hop in the car going any direction and never run out of weird old shit to discover. Plus it's quiet without being a rural backwater -- still close to civilization, the culture here values education, etc. The old Puritan mentality has its downsides and it's not Alabama cheap obviously but the value for the quality of life is amazing IMO.
I still think the West has more dramatic scenery pound for pound, but I always felt this part of the country has a more compelling mix of nature and human elements if that makes sense.
I enjoyed it tbqh but the constant gray and the standoffish people turned me off eventually. Summers in the PNW are unbelievable though. 80 and sunny and it's daylight from 515am to 915pm
>High taxes
Until you factor in property tax. Blue states might take more of your income, but red states make sure you are just de facto renting your land from the government in perpetuity:
https://www.rocketmortgage.com/learn/property-taxes-by-state
Once you factor in property tax, the numbers close down drastically. If I earned $100,000 and owned a home worth $1,000,000 in California, I'd pay the same taxes as I pay in just property tax living in Texas owning a property that's worth only $300k. >high crime
Red states have higher murder rates:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
And more gun crime:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm
And higher violent crime rates in general:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_violent_crime_rate >high numbers of nonwhites
Which we can translate to "good food" and "interesting culture" >high numbers of homosexuals
The only people who seem to care about this are the violent, over-taxed criminals that are you typical red state inhabitant. No one else in the entire world gives a shit besides other violent, oppressed losers, like muslims.
If you zoom in to the city/county level on violent crime stats in those Southern "red states", you'd find the highest number of murders occuring in Black person cities who invariably vote blue. Liberals will say and do anything to protect their most loyal voting bloc.
There is significant regional variability in property tax rates, with the West and the South having lower taxes than the Midwest and Northeast. Texas is a notable outlier.
west and it's not even a discussion. West without hesitation. West 100 million times and a million times more. What can the east even offer? Dead slat lands of midwest. Sweltering heat and moronic hillbilly mentalities and minorities of the south. Over crowded and grid locked traffic of the east coast.
West is best.
Is this seriously even a question? Who the frick wants to go to the overpriced east coast to freeze in the winter and then melt in the summer? To live in a 10 foot by 10 foot apartment that costs $2K a month in a shitty, dangerous neighbourhood? Broken elevator up to the 20th floor where you share a bathroom with neighbours? Outside is a soulless megopolis that’s ugly, jam packed/crowded, and has infamously bad public transportation? Everyone there is rude as hell and the only people who willingly move there by choice are 19yr old white girls that think they’re gonna get a fashion degree. Literally everyone else wants out. >there are other cities on the east coast besides NYC
Go ahead and name one, I’m waiting
If you want to avoid hipsters, stay out of Portland and San Fran. Hate crime? Keep away from LA. Hate obnoxious celebs and wannabes? Again, stay away from LA and Hollywood. Hate liberals? Don’t go to Seattle. But there is so much more natural beauty on the west coast. San Diego is overpriced and overrated but honestly not that bad, and I’m not a b***h so the libs and heroin junkies in Seattle didn’t bother me. Amazing city. Would love to visit Vancouver next
Need I also remind you 2Pac was better than Biggie?
I'm from the east and I dont think NYC mogs anywhere it's a bad city, nothing nice in NYC. Vegas is better than NY, LA completely mogs NY, San Francisco is a decrepit shithole and its 100 times less decrepit than NY. What does NY even offer? Bars that are open till like 4 am, is that even something most places don't have?
If you have money in Southern California, you live on the beautiful coast, not in the strip-mall suburban desert wasteland that is the California interior. NYC does not have anything comparable to California coast living.
>Vegas is better than NY
Are you on crack? Vegas is a soulless void in the desert, barely even a city and bland suburban hell surrounding the strip. It’s beige and orange coloured housing sprawl with strip malls and power centres on the stroads
I wrote that as a Texan. I hate Californians. But the ale Big Appul is much worse than even LA, the 2nd place epicenter of shitty people. Also, the PNW is beautiful and the east coast ish just one big gray/brown ugly mess with narrow streets
Yeah, yeah.
We hate you too
Even though we're ideologically the same, using the same mildly obscure internet forum, have the same hobbies, have the same heritage, have the same religious views, have the same political views of history, have the same taste in music, have the same love of nature
Texas sucks especially considering the size of the state, it should be so much better. There’s really not much to do except eat and get fat on greasy food. >gulf coastline
Insanely average and worst coastline in the NA and ruined by oil rigs, literally any other coast in North America is more scenic
Only place that piques interest is JSC in Houston and that’s not enough to get me to go to the humid hellhole that is Houston. Some good spots in Texas for its size, it should mog every state in the nation, instead it’s behind CA, NY, FL, NC, OR, WA, TN, etc.
I’m from RI living in NorCal. Eastern & Northern California mog at least half of Europe & all of the eastern US in regards to scenery. SoCal is a mixed bag when you deduct the Sierras - imo the beauty of New Hampshire, the Adirondacks, Vermont, Pennsylvania & Capecod are superior to SoCal’s scenery. NYC only mogs all SoCal cities, Sacremento and currently San Francisco proper.
West Coast sees much more extreme weather than you like to admit. From floods to wildfires, weeks of cold dreary rain in winter and weeks of scorching sun and heat in summer. Your towns are also overpriced AF, and West Coast people are very snobbish and unfriendly in my experience. The worst liberals in America, arguably.
>Need I also remind you 2Pac was better than Biggie?
He was a literal gay ballerina who constructed a fake gangster persona to capitalize on the emerging popularity of gangster rap
It get irritated when I see these divisions based on state lines. The physiography changes at roughly 100 degrees west. The true division is where the corn and onions fields end and the cattle ranges begin.
My family lives in central NC. It is comfortable and prosperous, with plenty of good jobs and a very mild climate in recent years. Wake County, NC is one of the few places in the USA that has never lost population in its entire history. In fact, only two decades since 1820 have seen the population grow by less than 10%. But I abhor the miles of urban sprawl, traffic-clogged roads, dirty sluggish creeks, spring allergies, summer humidity, overcast winter weather, and the days of non-stop rain that arrive at any time of the year. Also, there are a lot of Black folk in the Carolinas.
After eight years of extensive land travel around the USA, I chose the Colorado highlands (8000 ft elevation) as my place of residence from April to October. Weather is harsh, especially in spring, with wet, dry, cold and warm airmasses all battling each other for control of the continent. Nonetheless, the Colorado Rockies are one of the best places in America for the active outdoors lifestyle. The sun shines most every day, even on stormy days. Rain showers rarely last more than an hour. Mornings are always cool to cold, even in summer. No need for an A/C, just open your windows and let the cool clean mountain air in every night. Temps usually climb 25-40 degrees every day, thanks to the sun. Summers can be sunblasted, but temps almost never top 90 degrees, and the monsoon usually brings cooling clouds and refreshing showers by mid-July. People are not very outgoing here, but they have a "live and let live" attitude, and hard workers prosper here due to a chronic labor shortage. Housing is tough to find, but not impossible, especially if you are a highly valued employee. I pay $500 USD/month in rent for a kickass one-bedroom apartment an easy bike ride to town, no car required. There are endless acres of public land for every form of outdoor recreation imaginable (yes, even surfing on the river). No, I would not stay the winter up here, it gets too damn cold. April is enough winter for me.
>March 2019, savings nearing zero, working a $10/hr part-time job in Arizona and paying $375/month for a room in a horribly filthy trailer shared with three other people. >I cold called a bunch of people asking about job openings, my boss calls me back, we interview, he takes a risk and hires me over the phone. >He is a very old-fashioned businessman with Iowa farmboy roots, a millionaire not afraid of hard work. He decides to work with my van dwelling lifestyle. >Spent 2019 sleeping in my SUV on public lands and working long hours every day, making $13/hr. Monthly expenses while car dwelling were a laughably low $400 USD, so I was able to save a lot of money. >In 2020 my boss fixed up an on-site office as an extremely basic studio apartment, offered it to me for $200 USD/month, raised my pay to $14/hr, and I moved in for the 2020 season. I hated my new life, was miserable and depressed, dumped job and house for epic travels. >Cold call my boss again after 12 months of travel, he hires me again because he remembered how I worked in 2019. >Spent the rest of 2021 working and sleeping in the minivan, pay raised to $16/hr. >Return in spring 2022 after spending the winter living in Mexico, back to sleeping in my van. >Take six weeks off in mid-summer for van travel, return in fall, get a raise to $18/hr. >My old apartment has been newly refurbished and expanded to two rooms, rent is now $500/month. The old tenant moves out and I move in, get the place furnished and feeling like home. >In 2023 I agree to supervise myself and work a longer seven month season, pay raised to $21/hr, plus some overtime, paid vacation days, many other informal benefits as well. >Finally establish permanent residency after 8 years of traveling and using a bullshit address. >Finally achieve financial security, able to travel and spend as I please, knowing I am irreplaceable and will always have a job and a house here in Colorado.
>I chose the Colorado highlands (8000 ft elevation) as my place of residence from April to October
Buena Vista?
Heard it's really good for chill offroad motorcycle riding
>March 2019, savings nearing zero, working a $10/hr part-time job in Arizona and paying $375/month for a room in a horribly filthy trailer shared with three other people. >I cold called a bunch of people asking about job openings, my boss calls me back, we interview, he takes a risk and hires me over the phone. >He is a very old-fashioned businessman with Iowa farmboy roots, a millionaire not afraid of hard work. He decides to work with my van dwelling lifestyle. >Spent 2019 sleeping in my SUV on public lands and working long hours every day, making $13/hr. Monthly expenses while car dwelling were a laughably low $400 USD, so I was able to save a lot of money. >In 2020 my boss fixed up an on-site office as an extremely basic studio apartment, offered it to me for $200 USD/month, raised my pay to $14/hr, and I moved in for the 2020 season. I hated my new life, was miserable and depressed, dumped job and house for epic travels. >Cold call my boss again after 12 months of travel, he hires me again because he remembered how I worked in 2019. >Spent the rest of 2021 working and sleeping in the minivan, pay raised to $16/hr. >Return in spring 2022 after spending the winter living in Mexico, back to sleeping in my van. >Take six weeks off in mid-summer for van travel, return in fall, get a raise to $18/hr. >My old apartment has been newly refurbished and expanded to two rooms, rent is now $500/month. The old tenant moves out and I move in, get the place furnished and feeling like home. >In 2023 I agree to supervise myself and work a longer seven month season, pay raised to $21/hr, plus some overtime, paid vacation days, many other informal benefits as well. >Finally establish permanent residency after 8 years of traveling and using a bullshit address. >Finally achieve financial security, able to travel and spend as I please, knowing I am irreplaceable and will always have a job and a house here in Colorado.
>me >ohio boy >enjoy painting >always wanted to move to NYC >visited twice, each time for two weeks >avoided touristy stuff except MET because painting >time of my life
Everything rational in me is trying to talk me out of trying to move there, but my gut says I won't be satisfied until I've lived there.
I wish badly to live among the natural beauty on the West Coast but I'm a city girl thru and thru xx. I can't drive so I'd need a man to chauffeur me around. Do they even have Dunkin out there? Lolz xx
Nevada, among it's other problems, has an issue that most places don't have any experience with. We share a long, completely open border with a place that has more people than Canada or Australia and New Zealand combined. I am talking about California. If you don't live in Nevada, you have no idea how bad it is. Every third car I see on the road has a Californian license plate. There is a mass exodus from that shithole and many come here. We're being flooded. And that isn't even mentioning the Mexican immigration. Please save us.
It's not just your state, pal. Probably worse in Nevada due to proximity, but all of the states surrounding California feel your pain. Every time I see a dickhead driver or clueless b***h behind the wheel in Utah they invariably have California plates. Idaho is overrun by those fricks, and Montana and Wyoming are slowly being infiltrated. On one hand, you can't blame people for wanting a better life with less crime and government interference, but then they bring their liberal social ideas with them and create the very environment they are fleeing.
All I know is that Utah is still a relatively insulated and culturally isolated place that is conservative at its core from the mormon influence. Californians will find that their bullshit liberal ideas have no home here - yet.
It’s mostly conservatives fleeing to Idaho, Montana, Utah, even Nevada etc. Your gun laws attract conservative suburban types, I had a friend move there with his family. Also Utah is proof that white people mixed with Protestantism/Mormonism kills culture. Nothing going on in that state
>Also Utah is proof that white people mixed with Protestantism/Mormonism kills culture.
You have something with this. Utah is probably the most bland, culture-less place around. Look at the food - tasteless and cringeworthy - like the people. But the good thing is that it only applies mormon culture. >Nothing going on in that state
And that's how we fricking like it. It sucks, don't move here.
I wasn't trying to imply that we were the only ones. California has ruined Colorodo, for example, when they were the first to make weed legal. And other places are feeling their effects, but Nevada just gets hit worse than any other.
The Big Bend region is the greatest part of Texas, purely Western, but very, very remote. The rest of the state is ugly and exploited, except for the Hill Country region - the easternmost part of the West, IMO.
Utah sucks it's extremely hot and dry, and the Mormons are overbearing, they look down on all outsiders so good luck landing a decent job here. Can't wait to move back to Oregon
With my father (because we work together and we co-own a business) we decided to move to North America. We will use a big part of our savings to move there (the investment deal, basically).
No, really, where in the West Coast (or even East) it's the best to live, provided that we don't have money issues? Life quality, not too many crimes, and outdoors are extremely important for me.
We will also move our business that caters to richgays, so we need somewhere with enough wealthy people.
>inb4 why would you come here
After traveling all around the world, we concluded that the US and some parts of Canada are ideal. That's pretty much it. We're from Western Europe.
We're not crazy rich, we just have enough to get investment deal, that's why we are being extremely cautious. We cannot risk that much money for nothing.
Where do you live the rest of the year?
[...]
Based boss and nice job anon.
Mostly in Europe, but I travel every 3 months, even during lockdown.
Looking more and more for a definitive place to settle down, I want to start a family.
Arrogant West Coast homies are amusing me in this thread. Liberalism (I'm one) has destroyed every major West Coast city. They're overpriced, full of self-righteous buttholes, and not that fun. West Coast people are coasting on a 1970's reputation that doesn't exist anymore.
New York and Chicago, for all of their problems... are FUN. Eat, drink, smoke (tobacco), whatever. Carouse and bar hop.
West Coast nanny state gud buys simply accept from their feminized government they can't do shit. Fricking obedient millennial limp dick cucks need perspective.
East coast for cities west coast for nature
Honestly, i can kinda get this, Mount Ranier is a special fricking place and so are Banf, Lassen and Glacier. Not even to mention the Grand Canyon. But the Andirondacks man. Those mountains, lakes and autumnal foliage are something else. I miss Vermont in October when I'd start a morning off with some cider and a donut.
Sounds comfy as frick. NE seems like the best place to live in the USA to me. A quiet village in New England with most things in walking distance, cool history, easy access to major cities and decent nature. There are similar places I would consider on the west coast but from what I've seen those are more for the superrich (unaffordable) and not necessarily a good place to start a family.
Heavily biased but you're on the money anon. Just moved back to small town New England and absolutely love it for exactly the reasons you mention. Live right on the town green and can walk to stuff, great sense of community, never gotta lock anything, it's great. Can hop in the car going any direction and never run out of weird old shit to discover. Plus it's quiet without being a rural backwater -- still close to civilization, the culture here values education, etc. The old Puritan mentality has its downsides and it's not Alabama cheap obviously but the value for the quality of life is amazing IMO.
I still think the West has more dramatic scenery pound for pound, but I always felt this part of the country has a more compelling mix of nature and human elements if that makes sense.
If money were no object I would move to the PNW or Norcal without a doubt
West and it's not close. Both coasts are liberal but west has nature and better weather
You don't know what liberal means.
i lived in seattle for 5 years bud
My condolences
I enjoyed it tbqh but the constant gray and the standoffish people turned me off eventually. Summers in the PNW are unbelievable though. 80 and sunny and it's daylight from 515am to 915pm
Decades in NYC. I may not know what liberal means, but I sure know about the effects of a liberal government.
High taxes, high crime, high numbers of nonwhites, high numbers of homosexuals.
Just say run by ~~*them*~~
>High taxes
Until you factor in property tax. Blue states might take more of your income, but red states make sure you are just de facto renting your land from the government in perpetuity:
https://www.rocketmortgage.com/learn/property-taxes-by-state
Once you factor in property tax, the numbers close down drastically. If I earned $100,000 and owned a home worth $1,000,000 in California, I'd pay the same taxes as I pay in just property tax living in Texas owning a property that's worth only $300k.
>high crime
Red states have higher murder rates:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
And more gun crime:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm
And higher violent crime rates in general:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_violent_crime_rate
>high numbers of nonwhites
Which we can translate to "good food" and "interesting culture"
>high numbers of homosexuals
The only people who seem to care about this are the violent, over-taxed criminals that are you typical red state inhabitant. No one else in the entire world gives a shit besides other violent, oppressed losers, like muslims.
>DC is the most violent place
Gee I sure do wonder how that could be given how blue it is
If you zoom in to the city/county level on violent crime stats in those Southern "red states", you'd find the highest number of murders occuring in Black person cities who invariably vote blue. Liberals will say and do anything to protect their most loyal voting bloc.
>but red states make sure you are just de facto renting your land from the government in perpetuity:
every state has property tax moron.
There is significant regional variability in property tax rates, with the West and the South having lower taxes than the Midwest and Northeast. Texas is a notable outlier.
>Black person areas in red states have more violence
wow.
Two people larping as the person you’re replying to
Enjoy your eternal droughts bud
I hate Californians but honey shit imagine wanting to live on the east coast lmao
west and it's not even a discussion. West without hesitation. West 100 million times and a million times more. What can the east even offer? Dead slat lands of midwest. Sweltering heat and moronic hillbilly mentalities and minorities of the south. Over crowded and grid locked traffic of the east coast.
West is best.
East Coast has better beaches and traffic.
Neither, thank God I left that shithole forever
>I left that muh shithole forever
for what?
>inb4 some third world latrine like colombia or thailand
Midwest.
Is this seriously even a question? Who the frick wants to go to the overpriced east coast to freeze in the winter and then melt in the summer? To live in a 10 foot by 10 foot apartment that costs $2K a month in a shitty, dangerous neighbourhood? Broken elevator up to the 20th floor where you share a bathroom with neighbours? Outside is a soulless megopolis that’s ugly, jam packed/crowded, and has infamously bad public transportation? Everyone there is rude as hell and the only people who willingly move there by choice are 19yr old white girls that think they’re gonna get a fashion degree. Literally everyone else wants out.
>there are other cities on the east coast besides NYC
Go ahead and name one, I’m waiting
If you want to avoid hipsters, stay out of Portland and San Fran. Hate crime? Keep away from LA. Hate obnoxious celebs and wannabes? Again, stay away from LA and Hollywood. Hate liberals? Don’t go to Seattle. But there is so much more natural beauty on the west coast. San Diego is overpriced and overrated but honestly not that bad, and I’m not a b***h so the libs and heroin junkies in Seattle didn’t bother me. Amazing city. Would love to visit Vancouver next
Need I also remind you 2Pac was better than Biggie?
Californians are such weird baggies about their state I’m only 80% sure this is bait lmao.
NYC and all of Europe mog the frick out of California other than the weather.
I'm from the east and I dont think NYC mogs anywhere it's a bad city, nothing nice in NYC. Vegas is better than NY, LA completely mogs NY, San Francisco is a decrepit shithole and its 100 times less decrepit than NY. What does NY even offer? Bars that are open till like 4 am, is that even something most places don't have?
>LA mogs NYC
JFL, how do you even call LA a city
I hate big cities but would 1000% rather live in NYC than LA. LA is soulless concrete for 75 miles in every direction
If you have money in Southern California, you live on the beautiful coast, not in the strip-mall suburban desert wasteland that is the California interior. NYC does not have anything comparable to California coast living.
>What is Westchester County
LA is cool if you know how to manage it (I live there) but NYC is better
>Vegas is better than NY
Are you on crack? Vegas is a soulless void in the desert, barely even a city and bland suburban hell surrounding the strip. It’s beige and orange coloured housing sprawl with strip malls and power centres on the stroads
I’ve been to Vegas like 10 times and NYC once and can say with 100% certainty that NYC mogs every other American city
I wrote that as a Texan. I hate Californians. But the ale Big Appul is much worse than even LA, the 2nd place epicenter of shitty people. Also, the PNW is beautiful and the east coast ish just one big gray/brown ugly mess with narrow streets
Yeah, yeah.
We hate you too
Even though we're ideologically the same, using the same mildly obscure internet forum, have the same hobbies, have the same heritage, have the same religious views, have the same political views of history, have the same taste in music, have the same love of nature
But you're from Big Queer Texas so frick you
You know what? I respect it. Thanks for not being a b***h and replying to me, motherfricker. Hate you too
is this a “tsundere romance” like in my animays ?
Texas sucks especially considering the size of the state, it should be so much better. There’s really not much to do except eat and get fat on greasy food.
>gulf coastline
Insanely average and worst coastline in the NA and ruined by oil rigs, literally any other coast in North America is more scenic
Only place that piques interest is JSC in Houston and that’s not enough to get me to go to the humid hellhole that is Houston. Some good spots in Texas for its size, it should mog every state in the nation, instead it’s behind CA, NY, FL, NC, OR, WA, TN, etc.
I’m from RI living in NorCal. Eastern & Northern California mog at least half of Europe & all of the eastern US in regards to scenery. SoCal is a mixed bag when you deduct the Sierras - imo the beauty of New Hampshire, the Adirondacks, Vermont, Pennsylvania & Capecod are superior to SoCal’s scenery. NYC only mogs all SoCal cities, Sacremento and currently San Francisco proper.
Saratoga Springs
I grew up there. It was a posh jock town but maybe it changed since then
West Coast sees much more extreme weather than you like to admit. From floods to wildfires, weeks of cold dreary rain in winter and weeks of scorching sun and heat in summer. Your towns are also overpriced AF, and West Coast people are very snobbish and unfriendly in my experience. The worst liberals in America, arguably.
>t.beaner
>rap hop reference
kys
>Need I also remind you 2Pac was better than Biggie?
He was a literal gay ballerina who constructed a fake gangster persona to capitalize on the emerging popularity of gangster rap
>Need I also remind you 2Pac was better than Biggie?
There are like 20 other contemporary east coast rappers that are better than both of them.
It get irritated when I see these divisions based on state lines. The physiography changes at roughly 100 degrees west. The true division is where the corn and onions fields end and the cattle ranges begin.
>onions
s_o_y
INLAND
NORTHWEST
I would never leave NC for anything right now. Best East Coast state and it isn't even close.
The Carolinas are both based. I don't get why anyone chooses to live in DMV when NC is 50 miles away
My family lives in central NC. It is comfortable and prosperous, with plenty of good jobs and a very mild climate in recent years. Wake County, NC is one of the few places in the USA that has never lost population in its entire history. In fact, only two decades since 1820 have seen the population grow by less than 10%. But I abhor the miles of urban sprawl, traffic-clogged roads, dirty sluggish creeks, spring allergies, summer humidity, overcast winter weather, and the days of non-stop rain that arrive at any time of the year. Also, there are a lot of Black folk in the Carolinas.
Career growth and salaries.
no
East coast cities mog west coast ones and it’s more kino in general. West coast is too spread out
After eight years of extensive land travel around the USA, I chose the Colorado highlands (8000 ft elevation) as my place of residence from April to October. Weather is harsh, especially in spring, with wet, dry, cold and warm airmasses all battling each other for control of the continent. Nonetheless, the Colorado Rockies are one of the best places in America for the active outdoors lifestyle. The sun shines most every day, even on stormy days. Rain showers rarely last more than an hour. Mornings are always cool to cold, even in summer. No need for an A/C, just open your windows and let the cool clean mountain air in every night. Temps usually climb 25-40 degrees every day, thanks to the sun. Summers can be sunblasted, but temps almost never top 90 degrees, and the monsoon usually brings cooling clouds and refreshing showers by mid-July. People are not very outgoing here, but they have a "live and let live" attitude, and hard workers prosper here due to a chronic labor shortage. Housing is tough to find, but not impossible, especially if you are a highly valued employee. I pay $500 USD/month in rent for a kickass one-bedroom apartment an easy bike ride to town, no car required. There are endless acres of public land for every form of outdoor recreation imaginable (yes, even surfing on the river). No, I would not stay the winter up here, it gets too damn cold. April is enough winter for me.
Jealous. Share some secrets, sir
>March 2019, savings nearing zero, working a $10/hr part-time job in Arizona and paying $375/month for a room in a horribly filthy trailer shared with three other people.
>I cold called a bunch of people asking about job openings, my boss calls me back, we interview, he takes a risk and hires me over the phone.
>He is a very old-fashioned businessman with Iowa farmboy roots, a millionaire not afraid of hard work. He decides to work with my van dwelling lifestyle.
>Spent 2019 sleeping in my SUV on public lands and working long hours every day, making $13/hr. Monthly expenses while car dwelling were a laughably low $400 USD, so I was able to save a lot of money.
>In 2020 my boss fixed up an on-site office as an extremely basic studio apartment, offered it to me for $200 USD/month, raised my pay to $14/hr, and I moved in for the 2020 season. I hated my new life, was miserable and depressed, dumped job and house for epic travels.
>Cold call my boss again after 12 months of travel, he hires me again because he remembered how I worked in 2019.
>Spent the rest of 2021 working and sleeping in the minivan, pay raised to $16/hr.
>Return in spring 2022 after spending the winter living in Mexico, back to sleeping in my van.
>Take six weeks off in mid-summer for van travel, return in fall, get a raise to $18/hr.
>My old apartment has been newly refurbished and expanded to two rooms, rent is now $500/month. The old tenant moves out and I move in, get the place furnished and feeling like home.
>In 2023 I agree to supervise myself and work a longer seven month season, pay raised to $21/hr, plus some overtime, paid vacation days, many other informal benefits as well. >Finally establish permanent residency after 8 years of traveling and using a bullshit address. >Finally achieve financial security, able to travel and spend as I please, knowing I am irreplaceable and will always have a job and a house here in Colorado.
Based, I'm basically you even down to the years of timeline but the low IQ unable to plan ahead version
What fricking town
Seconding.
>I chose the Colorado highlands (8000 ft elevation) as my place of residence from April to October
Buena Vista?
Heard it's really good for chill offroad motorcycle riding
Where do you live the rest of the year?
Based boss and nice job anon.
The northeastern states beyond the megalopolis is the best part of this country in my opinion.
West coast is best coast
t. European who has never been west of London
>me
>ohio boy
>enjoy painting
>always wanted to move to NYC
>visited twice, each time for two weeks
>avoided touristy stuff except MET because painting
>time of my life
Everything rational in me is trying to talk me out of trying to move there, but my gut says I won't be satisfied until I've lived there.
I used to say florida was the answer but now with the property values sky high I'm not so sure, unless you're truly ballin
I wish badly to live among the natural beauty on the West Coast but I'm a city girl thru and thru xx. I can't drive so I'd need a man to chauffeur me around. Do they even have Dunkin out there? Lolz xx
What's your fav national park?
Nevada, among it's other problems, has an issue that most places don't have any experience with. We share a long, completely open border with a place that has more people than Canada or Australia and New Zealand combined. I am talking about California. If you don't live in Nevada, you have no idea how bad it is. Every third car I see on the road has a Californian license plate. There is a mass exodus from that shithole and many come here. We're being flooded. And that isn't even mentioning the Mexican immigration. Please save us.
It's not just your state, pal. Probably worse in Nevada due to proximity, but all of the states surrounding California feel your pain. Every time I see a dickhead driver or clueless b***h behind the wheel in Utah they invariably have California plates. Idaho is overrun by those fricks, and Montana and Wyoming are slowly being infiltrated. On one hand, you can't blame people for wanting a better life with less crime and government interference, but then they bring their liberal social ideas with them and create the very environment they are fleeing.
All I know is that Utah is still a relatively insulated and culturally isolated place that is conservative at its core from the mormon influence. Californians will find that their bullshit liberal ideas have no home here - yet.
It’s mostly conservatives fleeing to Idaho, Montana, Utah, even Nevada etc. Your gun laws attract conservative suburban types, I had a friend move there with his family. Also Utah is proof that white people mixed with Protestantism/Mormonism kills culture. Nothing going on in that state
>Also Utah is proof that white people mixed with Protestantism/Mormonism kills culture.
You have something with this. Utah is probably the most bland, culture-less place around. Look at the food - tasteless and cringeworthy - like the people. But the good thing is that it only applies mormon culture.
>Nothing going on in that state
And that's how we fricking like it. It sucks, don't move here.
I wasn't trying to imply that we were the only ones. California has ruined Colorodo, for example, when they were the first to make weed legal. And other places are feeling their effects, but Nevada just gets hit worse than any other.
The Big Bend region is the greatest part of Texas, purely Western, but very, very remote. The rest of the state is ugly and exploited, except for the Hill Country region - the easternmost part of the West, IMO.
Texas was the last good state, now everything is insanely overpriced and rural areas still don't have good internet.
It never was. Unless you’re talking about Galveston before the hurricane
They're both shit. The South and the Midwest are where it's at.
Where what's at? The butthole of America?
west cause thats where tupac lives 😀
West and it's not even close.
I’d prefer to live anywhere North if North Carolina and East of Ohio.
East Coast since it's only like an 8 hour flight to visit family in Europe
how is west virginia and utah ?
i'm a foreigner
Utah sucks it's extremely hot and dry, and the Mormons are overbearing, they look down on all outsiders so good luck landing a decent job here. Can't wait to move back to Oregon
With my father (because we work together and we co-own a business) we decided to move to North America. We will use a big part of our savings to move there (the investment deal, basically).
No, really, where in the West Coast (or even East) it's the best to live, provided that we don't have money issues? Life quality, not too many crimes, and outdoors are extremely important for me.
We will also move our business that caters to richgays, so we need somewhere with enough wealthy people.
>inb4 why would you come here
After traveling all around the world, we concluded that the US and some parts of Canada are ideal. That's pretty much it. We're from Western Europe.
If you're truly that rich I would say some place on the CA coast south of the Bay Area.
We're not crazy rich, we just have enough to get investment deal, that's why we are being extremely cautious. We cannot risk that much money for nothing.
Mostly in Europe, but I travel every 3 months, even during lockdown.
Looking more and more for a definitive place to settle down, I want to start a family.
Arrogant West Coast homies are amusing me in this thread. Liberalism (I'm one) has destroyed every major West Coast city. They're overpriced, full of self-righteous buttholes, and not that fun. West Coast people are coasting on a 1970's reputation that doesn't exist anymore.
New York and Chicago, for all of their problems... are FUN. Eat, drink, smoke (tobacco), whatever. Carouse and bar hop.
West Coast nanny state gud buys simply accept from their feminized government they can't do shit. Fricking obedient millennial limp dick cucks need perspective.