Any anons traveled to South East Asia for non coomer related activities?
Basically want to book 1-3 month stay somewhere warm for summer and near sea side. Work remotely so want easy access to sea, lots of water activities and nature. Great expat community would be great too (no backpackers).
Share you experience and suggestions, anons.
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I’ve found Malaysia to have the least moronic travelers in SE Asia. Probably due to being majority Muslim, which keeps out the people who want to get drunk and party everywhere, and cooming is very much kept on the DL so weird guys tend to avoid it. Basically everyone speaks English and the few Western foreigners I saw seemed to be upper middle class.
Plus plenty of beautiful beaches and loads of places to do hiking or explore some jungles. Much cleaner than Thailand and without the scammy BS as well.
When did you go and what cities you stayed at? Any particular interesting things you would suggest that you personally enjoyed? I am going with wife, also. How safe did you find the country? Thanks for the suggestion on the Malaysia, anon.
Kuala Lumpur is a clean, modern city. Has everything you’d expect or need.
I also visited Tioman, which had some absolutely gorgeous beaches.
Kuching has easy access to nature and felt strangely American to me. Big roads, car-dependent, big homes.
But no matter where you go in Malaysia, it’s safe and clean. Not once did anyone try to scam me nor did I see anyone trying to scam anyone else. It’s Asia so murder and robbery isn’t a concern either. Tap water seems drinkable as well. I was concerned and used bottled water for the first half of my trip, but eventually gave up and was fine. Malaysia basically has first world amenities and infrastructure but at third world prices.
The only downside is it’s insanely hot every single day. That’s true for most of SE Asia though.
>Not once did anyone try to scam me nor did I see anyone trying to scam anyone else.
>It’s Asia so murder and robbery isn’t a concern either.
>Tap water seems drinkable as well
are you sure that's malaysia you're talking about?
mind you, most of the murder and scamming here is done by the government
Vietnam has lazy scammers who don’t even try. Thailand has people that’ll chase you down to scam you then throw you out of a hotel window or chop you apart. Cambodians will sell you to Chinese online scam operations.
Malaysia is definitely the best of mainland SE Asia in terms of safety.
theres singapore but aight
May as well visit Des Moines. At least there you might have some excitement.
Can second this. Have spent three months in Malaysia working and everyone is polite and everywhere feels safe. My wife can walk down to the shop at night by herself and she never has any problems. Have never had any issues due to infrastructure, it’s pretty easy to get doctors appointments and it’s cheap. Food is good and so is the service. They have big malls with American and European brands so there’s not much you can’t find from home. It’s driver oriented, so if you’re from Europe it can be weird to get used to but Grabs are cheap.
There’s a large enough non-Muslim population that you don’t feel like an outsider, like you can get in some Arab countries. The government is apparently extremely corrupt but as a foreigner travelling there you won’t notice it.
Can anyone recommend anything about Indonesia except Bali? I know it's invisible to most of this board's SEA travelers, but I'd like to visit
Java is great. Don't stay in Jakarta.
Dude it’s a huge country.
East Java, Sumatra, Lombok, East and West Nusa Tengara, Komodo, Kalimatan, Sulawesi, frick did you even bother to search?
Just check out the IG profile of this guy:
@ryannifsya
Also learn basic bahasa, like greetings, directions and transactions. It’s fairly easy language
Which of these countries has the most stable internet connections? I don't care about speed because I can get work done with 10-20Mbps but I need reliability to the point where I would consider a 4g hotspot as a backup
Basically anywhere these days. Unless you’re staying in a small village powered by small generators, electricity is stable and internet is fast.
>SEA
>non coomer
This will be a short thread
As expected, I guess, but traveling with wife and we already coom together.
Wife wants to go Cambodia, have no opinion on that country, anyone been?
Keep yourself and your c**t white twat you call a wife the frick out of SEA. Hope your wife gets dicked and shanked
Stop seething coomer, just stay in your containment country and let everyone else enjoy life.
Yeah enjoy your USA 🙂
I’ll be voting for all non-white, pro-diversity and pro-lgbtq candidates despite living overseas
Anon he said to stop seething not double down baka
>Cambodia
Not worth a trip IMO. Only unique point is cheap, low quality cooming. It doesn’t offer anything that you cant find better versions of in neighboring countries. Shithole/10 and I like to think Im not very picky
>It doesn’t offer anything that you cant find better versions of in neighboring countries
literally has the best attraction in the entire region
Which is ?
brown pusy
I assume that
is talking about Angkor Wat.
Angkor Wat is lame. OTOH if the intended answer was really 'brown pusy' - refer to my original comment - 'inferior to neighboring countries'
You don't have to BE a coomer, but if you counter signal men trying to bust a nut with foreign women (especially if coming from Maximum Security Pussy Prison: USA) you are a MASSIVE homosexual
Yes of course you can get laid without paying in Thailand
Do you reckon I could get a cute date in singapore?
Malaysia is a filthy Muslim shit hole. Seriously the most disgusting place I went in SEA. Try using a public toilet in the airport or a posh shopping mall. Absolutely unusable filth. Taxi drivers are all scammers. People are rude and disgusting. Don't bother.
>Try using a public toilet in the airport or a posh shopping mall. Absolutely unusable filth.
true
>Taxi drivers are all scammers.
Grab has taken over. nobody uses taxis any more, except when those taxis are also working for Grab.
t. Disappointed coomer
Toilets are nightmares basically anywhere in Asia barring Japan. As the other anon said, nobody uses taxis. It’s all grab. I’m not even sure if regular taxis exist anymore.
And how the frick do you get scammed in Malaysia? There’s no concept of foreigner pricing there unlike Thailand and no matter where you go or what you do prices are very clearly labeled. That includes Grab which shows the fee before you ride a car. The only way to get scammed in Malaysia is to actively seek out being scammed, or I guess get ripped off by hookers. Which, if you’re such a coomer that you’re seeking out hookers in a Muslim country, you’re dumb enough to deserve.
>And how the frick do you get scammed in Malaysia?
well you could try running a business and interacting with government departments
>There’s no concept of foreigner pricing there
yeah there is. there are plenty of places where "mat salleh price" applies especially in touristy areas like langkawi. some tourist attractions have different prices for malaysians and non-malaysians. example, KL Tower
lmao he’s not trying to start a business in Malaysia.
Foreign prices for official “landmarks” are common all around the world. Have seen it in 10+ countries including Italy (Colosseum).
Malaysia is a famous prostitute mongering destination specifically the beach club. Dumb c**t
The presence of a few desperate thirdies in a sad little prostitutehouse does not make a whole country a “famous prostitute mongering destination”
You’re not going to find streetwalkers at noon like you will in Thailand or Cambodia. Malaysia’s sex industry is mostly online and you’re not finding anything unless you’re going out of your way to find it.
Just because you actively sought out hookers in a Muslim country doesn’t mean everyone else is.
I also wanna go to SEA, been living in France for my whole life even though i'm half Lao and never stepped a foot in asia.
Since i can't travel to Laos for various political reasons i thought about going to Bangkok, but i heard it's overatted and that KL is 10x better (i already had it on my list of places to visit), i don't exactly know what i could do there since i barely have any family in thailand and i just don't wanna go there to coom. My thai is also straight garbage and i'm kind of broke.
>i can't travel to Laos for various political reasons
Nonsense. . They give no more thought to you than to a wienerroach.
Why can't you go to Laos, fren? Did their internet police read some shitposts of yours that were hostile to the regime?
Malaysian Muslims literally dig shit out of their hole with their left index finger while using the toilet. It's how they 'clean' after going.
Everything in a Malaysian public(ish) bathroom will be coated with turd particles. Make sure you wash your hands.
Vietnam anon here. VN Wife + Hapa baby.
Vietnam is set to allow three month visas soon which will allow it to be a serious destination for DNs. Looking forward to this change.
You know when?
I hate coomers so much it's unreal.
Now I can't be a 28 year old white guy going to SEA without people giving me a bombastic side eye.
seethe more normie
Sex is the cherry on top of traveling. I can't stand American women. The fact I can easily frick big ass latinas in the DR is fanatastic. It's all broke Africans from America as my competition, so it's like a buffet line for me.
>NO UR SUPPOSED TO GO FOR THE CULTURE
Yeah, Zona Colonial is nice.. for 3 days. I'm not wasting $800 back and forth just to stare at buildings. Imma get my willy wet.
What's the level of development and standards of living in Vietnam like? (HCMC/Hanoi specifically)
Is it closer to Thailand or Cambodia?
Vietnam is booming get in there while it's fricking dirt cheap for shit. It will turn into the next Thailand before you know it with prices thru the roof. Beer can still be had for less than a buck. Same with smokes about 2 bucks. Chinese are flooding the place with construction. HCMC is one giant construction site
Does HCMC/Hanoi have a lot of zoomer/alternative stuff going on though?
The main reason I had my eye on Bangkok is because its dirt cheap but also appears to have stuff going on literally all the time and also appears to be filled to the brim with other zoomers my age that I could make friends with
>Vietnam is booming get in there while it's fricking dirt cheap for shit
this. as soon as the visa situation changes all the digital memeads are going to flood the place and jack the prices up.
Closer to Thailand. Vietnam's worse off than them but still way, way better than Cambodia. Cambodia is in a special dumpsterfire league of its own.
Thanks anon
If I'm coming from a first world country how much readjustment would life in HCMC/Hanoi take?
I've not been but I get the impression that BKK is basically a first world city on the inside (despite looking third world/underdeveloped) apart from not being able to drink the tap water
Ha Noi was wild. Just be prepared to deal with insane traffic and very little english and you'll be fine. You can find basically everything you might need fairly easily, some things (like say a phone charger or power adapter) might be difficult to find the seller but thats just because the stores are mostly run by small owners and not really concentrated. Almost any place you might stay at will have internet, electricity a bed and bathroom. Scams are limited to people just bugging you on the street so avoidable. Haggling is common and annoying but you dont haggle on e.g. food so dont worry about survival by any means.
Hardest adjustment will probably be the timezone. Have some fun.
Vietnam, you can feel the economic hope and prosperity upcoming. Everyone's working hard and looking forward to the future. I came back from Ho Chi Minh charged and motivated. Might settle later if they give up their communist homosexual system.
Coomer here. Just checking in. I’ll respect your non-sex thread since we already have 2 active coomer threads in /trv. .
My interests may not align with yours, but Thailand is probably the best overall place for you and your wife. Cheap, nice beaches, and lots to do and see. Rest of SEA is backwards as frick. If you’ve seen one 3rd world Asian country, you’ve seen them all. Good luck and happy travels.
Thanks anons for all your replies. I will do more research and post more during my stay or after we are back in October.
What is Thailand like right now? Im not into weed and ive heard its gone full stoner moron everywhere. Also, how do you think the election results will change shit there? Another coup or civil unrest at some point?
I was just in Bangkok. There is a weed shop every 100 feet. The actual smoking fairly innocuous though. I only smelled weed smoke once in a week of walking up and down sukhumvit.
Honestly Thailand is so chill that smoking some weed contributes to the experience. Nothing quite like hanging out out the roof of your building and contemplating the skyline while the thc soaks in.
Didn't see any aberrant or abhorrent behavior either. At least not outside sukhumvit normal.
As for elections the military junta are a real bunch of dinosaurs. I think they will get 'bought out' and take a sideline. There is too much money to be made by opening up Thailand even further.
If you leave Sukhumvit there are literally zero weed shops. They're all right there. I was in Rama 9 which is like 1 mile north of Sukhumvit and there was no weed anywhere. Much more relaxing. Lots of Chinese people though, so if that bothers you, there's that.
What about in the North? Is Chiang Mai full of it?
>I was in Rama 9 which is like 1 mile north of Sukhumvit and there was no weed anywhere
I live in Rama 9, we have a few places here. Sukhumvit obviously has the most. Pro tip: Stop being a moron
>Stop being a moron
Alternately, can I become a based moron?
I'm also interested in doing my first ever Asia trip in a few months, and noticed how Malaysia is being shilled as an underrated gem on YT.
So I checked on Numbeo and it's quite shocking to see this disparity between Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur. Is this real? How? Do I get off cheaper as a tourist in KL than in BKK?
I'm planning to stay 30 days and work remotely. Beach is a plus, but not necessity for me. I just want a safe and simple first experience, and consider maybe doing this multiple times per year in the future. So far I'm considering Chiang Mai, or Southern Thailand and just now looking into Malaysia.
Also, I'm not interested in prostitutes, but want to try dating. I can get women in Europe, but not happy. Is this completely off limits and hopeless in Malaysia? Or are there enough non-Muslims that I could get matches and set up serious dates with some Chinese girls?
Also, just in general, how much Muslim bullshit would I have to put up with in Malaysia?
>Is this real? How? Do I get off cheaper as a tourist in KL than in BKK?
I haven't really noticed any major difference in my expenses as a tourist in either place.
>Also, just in general, how much Muslim bullshit would I have to put up with in Malaysia?
Absolutely none beyond muezzin calls and high alcohol tax.
Don’t plan on finding a woman in Malaysia. You might get one, but your odds are way lower than the rest of SE Asia. One reason is due to Islam, another is that Malaysia is pretty well developed and you really don’t have a massive number of women desperate to escape like you do in other countries in the region. You’ll perform just as well with the women as you do at home, but your options will be more limited since sharia law applies to Muslims and Muslim women who have casual sex face legal consequences. That basically leaves you with Chinese women, and they’re getting propositioned by everyone and likely tired of it.
KL is vastly cheaper than Bangkok in my experience. Everywhere in Malaysia is cheaper than Thailand. Far less nickel and diming due to no farang prices. But since it’s pretty obvious you’re going to be eying up girls and wanting to coom, Thailand is clearly what you’re looking for.
Well the woman situation is disappointing then.
Anyway, I'm still considering Malaysia, specifically KL (unless I'm missing something?) is a good entry point for a first Asia stay. I'm thinking mostly because of English, and it looks more orderly, and just a normal city.
Instead Thailand looks like anywhere I would want to go, is basically pre-made for tourist homosexuals and I would get the same treatment, no choice. Also if Malaysia is really cheaper, then less opportunities to frick up by spending on daily life / scams.
I would think of it as a lifestyle practice on a different continent, a good and safe way to learn and prepare. Maybe next time then I would go to Thailand then.
I’d recommend it, it’s safe, easy to get around and people are friendly. Some of them stare a lot but they don’t mean anything by it, I think they just don’t think it’s rude. You won’t notice all the Muslim stuff aside from architecture/dress/non-halal sections. Go see a few mosques (they have three of four in the world) and listen to the call to prayer without feeling like an outsider and still being able to drink a beer without getting the side eye.
>Also, just in general, how much Muslim bullshit would I have to put up with in Malaysia?
it kind of depends how much you go looking for it. but as a tourist you will probably not notice very much.
if you go in a supermarket you might notice that there is a separate "non halal" section where beer, bacon etc are sold
you might notice that the pre-islamic history of malaysia is basically eradicated from any museums and so on
you might notice a distinct lack of most types of cultural events that make life interesting. all media is heavily censored. very few international-level bands play here. for most of them it is not worthwhile because of all the restrictions the religious nuts enforce. as an example it was announced recently that coldplay are going to do a show in KL. of course the local fundie nutjobs are protesting saying that the concert should be cancelled because they "promote degeneracy". fricking coldplay. the most boring band in existence. do me a fricking favour
stick around and talk to some chinese or indian people about the shit they have to deal with because of the fricking muslims
but no, as a tourist you can either avoid it or ignore it. just go to one of the rooftop bars in KL and drink wienertails.
>want to go to thailand
>will never pay for sex
I pull a lot in the US but is Thailand literally only for prostitution or can you go out to Bangkok and get laid without paying?
Watching sabbaticals Bali video. Really digging the Hindu influences parts of Indonesia. It's really beautiful what its like without Indian people.
Seriously considering a one way ticket, 'to hell with it all' escapade. I've done Thailand twice before and Cambodia. I wouldnt go back to Cambodia now that Chinks have destroyed the South. But I reckon 90 days in Thailand followed by Laos, Vietnam and maybe Bali.
Are prices in Thailand much increased since covid? Can you still get $5-6 a night huts in the North for instance? What about food and booze? I'm not a stoner but would definitely get involved whilst there seeing as it's now legalised. What are weed prices like? Basically it'd been 4 years since my last trip and wondering how things have changed in general
Do most of the comments about Malaysia (especially about the Muslim locals) also apply to Indonesia? I plan to spend a month there this summer, probably Sumatra, Java, and exit from Bali
again in most of those places you won't notice it unless you talk to the non muslim locals and listen to the shit they have to put up with
(assuming there aren't any bombs)
Indonesia recently made it illegal for non-married couples to share hotels together. Malaysia has this for Muslims only, but Indonesia applies this to all people and they’re rapidly expanding their Islamic BS. Enforcement isn’t uniform, but it’s only a matter of time until foreigners make the news and get caned for daring to shower together.
Bali is Hindu so they’ll likely just ignore all that shit, but there will come a time when Muslims will force them to comply.
Basically, if you want to enjoy Indonesia, do it now. 5 years ago would’ve been better, but now is better than it will be 5 years from now.
I met a couple that was affected by this in Malaysia and they were asked for their marriage certificate, which they had. A week later I went with my girlfriend to KL and they didn't ask us for anything, both of us being white+SEA couples.
It's not illegal yet but hotels do have the right to ask for it. The actual law making it illegal goes into effect in 2025 or something, and only covers Indonesian couples. But again, hotels can interpret it however they want and ask for marriage certificates.
The funny thing is, I've heard most people describe Malaysia as being more religious than Indonesia, but that might be splitting hairs, and Indonesia does have terrorism.
There are lots of non-hooker ladyboys in Thailand. Most of them look like men in dresses because they don't have the money to afford hormones and cosmetic surgery. It's still probably the best country in the world to find a passable non-pro LB if that's what floats your boat.
>Most of them look like men in dresses because they don't have the money to afford hormones and cosmetic surgery.
That's a bummer. Guess I'll just have to see when I get there eh?
>if that's what floats your boat
It totally is.
What are the best places for the ladyboys btw? Looking at Hua Hin right now because Pattaya seems a little TOO crazy and degenerate for me.
The ladyboys in Pattaya will all be pro. Except maybe some very non-passing you find working in local businesses. Try Bangkok, Chiang Mai, and Phuket. The very best looking will be pros, but these areas have lots of ladyboys in general. If you spend long enough in Thailand, you'll stumble across at least some ladyboy that isn't a pro and looks just like a woman, but the giveaway will be their height, their voice, and the fact they look better than most Thai women who haven't had surgery themselves.
I can't speak for Hua Hin but it probably has its share too.
>she does it FOR FREE
Are ALL Thai ladyboys hookers, or are some of them normal and AIDS-free and just want a loving boyfriend?
Seems like 90% have been in sex work at some point. Even if they are not currently a hooker they likely fricked and sucked when they were younger for college and troony mess.
Coincidentally 90% are pure coomers with nothing else going on in their lives but hunting for dick, baht, and substances.
the one I met up with was pretty normal. She worked at a remote worker's office space, so you'd think she'd have fricked a bunch of dudes, but it was obvious she hadn't fricked in 6+ months, just like she said
Outside of the programmer troony mainly found in the first world, most troons in the third world do so to sell their asses.
I can save her(him)
the successful/good looking ones you see usually at least have done it as a job before. How else can they afford to get the procedures, implants, surgery, and hormone therapy? its simply out of reach for normal transgenders looking to transition successfully, they have to do it on the side or start working the street full time
I also heard despite being a very gender open society, its still hard for regular ladyboys to find consistent normal jobs. Theres still level of discrimination in higher rungs of business
I'll be in Singapore for a few days next month, anything worth knowing before I land?
Can you get benzos over the counter in Thailand? What about barbiturates?
what are the notions like between real Thai women and trannies? i've added a couple Thai b***hes on Snapchat and all of them put things like "I'M A WOMAN" or "not transsexual" in their profiles.
i made the mistake of saying something along the lines of "you're not fat, you have curves like a real woman" while attempting to simp for one of them and she flipped the frick out thinking i was accusing her of being a stealth troony, so i take it they don't like each other?
>curves
You made a cultural/social blunder. she was insecure about her weight, you complimented her about her "curves" yet to her she thought it was a backhanded remark on her weight. in Thailand I dont think having curves is taken as a good thing at all, its only being slim or slender that's considered attractive
That's to my advantage then, because I am a shameless fatty fricker in the states, and it seems like that's gotten more popular in recent years here which makes the girls pickier. I loved it when they were low hanging fruit.
yah me too. I didnt realize how much I like thicker girls until I started fking Isaan chicks. they got big dump trucks. more for us I guess
Mein neger
>in Thailand I dont think having curves is taken as a good thing at all, its only being slim or slender that's considered attractive
This. Thai women who aren’t rail thin have serious self esteem issues about being fat. What we consider normal in the US is considered obese in Thailand.
What you consider normal in the US is considered obese in the whole world. American women are whales. The amount of delusional women I've seen in the USA is absurd. Anywhere else in the world, a fat woman in a crop top or booty shorts would be laughed at, in the US it's a common sight.
I want to go to Pattaya but I'm not interested in drugs besides booze and cigs. I don't mind being around it but there's no way in hell I'm smoking meth or whatever the frick people here claim they do regularly.
Is it still viable?
I'm going to Thailand next month and I AM interested in drugs (somewhat), and I'm avoiding Pattaya. This is based on secondhand information but maybe somebody can give you a better answer. It would probably have appealed to me more when I was younger.
Also if anybody has a pro-Pattaya pitch to make, I'm open to changing my mind.
Has anybody here actually gotten AIDS from a ladyboy?
I got antibiotic resistant tonsillitis from a femboy in the USA. He was Asian lady boy material. It has caused me a lot of trouble. Try to find God.
You put that girldick in your mouth? Dats gay bro
>non-coomer edition
>thread inevitably ends up in prostitute discussion
Put this board out of its misery
Okay bro so if I'm going to Thailand for a month or two to get away, and if Bangkok is too huge to be relaxing and Pattaya is too degenerate, but I want to be around enough degeneracy to do some partying and maybe just a little bit of cooming (cooming isn't the main point), while chilling on the beach in beautiful natural surroundings, and I also want everything to be as cheap as possible, where do you recommend?
There simply isnt any other real reason to go to SEA. Unless you're a begpacker. But that doesn't make for an interesting thread. Northeast Asia is nicer in every way imaginable and for most people there are far more accessible beach locations (including in NE Asia anyway) than flying across the world.
Not that gay but SEA is way cheaper.
Refer to my original comment
>begpackers
China/Taiwan and even SK are not particularly expensive and unless you are straight broke they are far nicer places to visit if you're genuinely anti-coomer
>china
Huge place, lots to visit and do. Very chaotic and harder to navigate than SEA for your average moron, though
>taiwan
Basically SEA lite and theres not much to do. Maybe for a short visit.
>SK
>nice to visit as anti-coomer
What. Boring as frick, food sucks if you're not a fan of asiaticslop, there's very little to do as a tourist. If you're not a total autist you can maybe have fun at the clubs, but that's coomer behavior.
SEA has plenty of normie shit to do and is pretty easily navigated. The coomer shid is just cherry on top.
I dont care for SK either personally Im just saying it isnt that expensive and its not jungleasiatic land with streets that smell like shit
>jungleasiatic
At least the vast majority of SEA people are nice. Koreans are nice to your faceat best, including among each other.
>streets that smell like shit
Visit Seoul in the summer. They have an ancient poorly designed sewage system.
Idk why I'm triggered I guess I just really don't like worst korea
SEA = soul
NEA = soulless
I mean this without a shred of irony. They could be the same price and I'd prefer SEA.
dirt & poverty != soul
It does tho
You are either a brown or a shitlib if you unironically think this
>shitlib
Anybody who says this sounds like a 12 year old.
I dont know what else to call it. Over-romanticizing homosexual is a mouthful. Muh streets that smell like shit and low quality peasant slop streetfood the gives you the shits isn't SOVL
You don’t get it. I can’t LARP as a god like colonialist in a place that isn’t dirty and poor. There’s nothing more soulful than treating brown sea monkeys like peasants.
Fair enough, I can get behind you on that one
Cringe.
I went to Malaysia to hike in jungles and it was great. It’s something NE Asia absolutely does not offer.
I'm intrigued
Wher exactly?
The Kuching area has very easily accessible hiking. East Borneo is supposed to have even better hikes, but seems like you’ll be riding in a bus for hours to get to a lot of good spots. In Kuching, it’s literally 30 minutes by a cheap ass car/taxi and you’re in a national park.
Thank you
Bros is there any way to enter Thailand legally without having a return flight booked? As far as I know, it's not easy to change the date of a flight once your ticket is bought, right? I want to go and have my departure left open, so wat do?
I haven't been there but I heard it's the airline that verifies you have a flight out of thailand (it doesn't have to be returning, just out of thailand), and apparently immigration doesn't spend time verifying flights.
There's a service called "Onward Ticket" that you can use to get a reserve a seat on a flight out of thailand for cheap ($15 or so), then you can just cancel the reservation once you're in.
It is also possible to just buy a cheap burner flight to like Cambodia/Laos/Vietnam/Malaysia. whatever is cheapest and just don't get on the plane.
As far as I know doing either one are both legal, as long as you don't overstay the 30 tourism visa.
Changing the date of a flight you already bought might be possible, I think it costs at least $200 but maybe a lot more, or they might not let you do it at all, depends on the airline. Also not booking and leaving the return flight to the last minute could end up costing more.
One thing you could try as well, I heard Expedia US has a 24hr free refund, so you could book your ticket beforehand and cancel once you arrive. Could be tight if your flight is close to 24hrs though.
>It is also possible to just buy a cheap burner flight to like Cambodia/Laos/Vietnam/Malaysia. whatever is cheapest and just don't get on the plane.
This is the way. it's $70.
Stupid people in this thread. $70? Good job wasting your money. Just by an "onward" ticket for $12 and never use it.
Thanks guys, this thread has proven helpful for a non-coom question after all. OP will be proud of you when he reads this.
>It is also possible to just buy a cheap burner flight to like Cambodia/Laos/Vietnam/Malaysia. whatever is cheapest and just don't get on the plane.
Anybody here actually done this?
Bus ticket to Cambodia/Malaysia. 20 bucks or so.
I entered Thailand with a one-way ticket and had nothing else booked and it wasn't a problem. I also have some friends that did the same and no problems as well.
Btw is it true that I should avoid the bus service between cities in Thailand because of thieves? Or is this not as bad as I've heard?
There's no crime in Thailand.
Those are pajeets and chinks lying. I've never met a single woman here with an OF account. It's bullshit.
Just take the train around and you'll find cool spots. Ekkamai, Thong lor, Siam Square, Chatuchak, Rama IX, etc are all cool areas. Avoid pattaya unless you love 150k indians walking around.
I don’t get it, why do they swarm areas and clog up the infrastructure and take forever to decide on what to do? They never seem to go with the pattern of foot traffic, smell weird, talk super loud, and have this disgusted look on their face all the time.
Imagine all the ladyboy wiener and 12yo dicky getting redeemed.
I had a guy try to pick pocket me at a day market. I turned around and saw a horrified looking 5'5 skinny middle aged brown homosexual holding that hand of some 5yo girl. I took out Google translate, grabbed the girls arm as they tried to make a break for it, and told the girl the man she was with was a bad man, and a loser. She started crying and I left.
You sound stupid. You're lucky they didn't call the cops on you.
People will always assume things about you regardless of where you go as a single man.
>be looking at hotels at work
>office karen looks over my back without my knowledge
>booking a hotel anon?
>yes
>where are you going?
>Palm Springs
>come back from 4 day weekend
>everyone in the office thinks you're gay now
I golf so I have the ultimate cover story for pretty much anywhere I wanna go.
One of my co-workers are like that, he says he goes golfing in SA but he's a big perv and sex tourist. Like he would invite me to go to TJ over the weekend. Surprised he never went to SEA, I guess he has a type. But he can make it work because his brother goes with him, so their cover is he goes with his brother to Belize to 'play golf.'
I don't have any friends, not married and not dating anyone. So the c**ts in the office always assume the worst of me.
I work with guys so I just tell them I'm going to Thailand to drink and get my dick sucked and they think I'm cooler than I actually am for it.
anyone that golfs knows that its a degenerate "sport" akin to bowling. you're getting wasted and flirting with the drink cart girl the entire time. women think it's wholesome because you are out in nature and everyone is dressed nice.
/Roastie Tears General/
>Somewhere warm for summer
The entire SEA, except maybe deep inside forest on mountain, are hot not warm during summer
Unless you're talking about Australian summer
are there any decent sized cities up in the mountains that aren't blistering hot all year round? I like cooler weather, someplace where I can wear a hoodie and be comfy.
I've never been, but I have a hard on for Da Lat, in Vietnam. Look it up.
Da Lat and Baguio
What are the absolute cheapest places to stay in Thailand that are on the beach and fun? I don't need luxury. Just a nice natural setting and a little bit of degeneracy.
>on the beach
>absolute cheapest
>fun
Pick two. Anything on the beach in an area with a ton of stuff to do is going to be wall to wall condos that are going to run you at least $600 a month off AirBnB. You can probably get some beach shanty in a literally where fishing village for like $150 a month but there won’t be anything around.
Or you could stay a few miles away from the beach and get something for $300 a month and just catch a ride.
>wall to wall condos that are going to run you at least $600 a month off AirBnB
I've been looking at bungalows in Hua Hin for like $250/month. You can go cheaper but they start looking pretty shitty at that point.
I took anons post about being “on the beach” to be literal in that you walk out on your patio and there’s the ocean. Not close to the beach or 1 min walk to the beach.
These were like a few hundred feet. Close enough for me.
Sorry to post coomer question but the thread already turned into one anyway.
Are the doom posters saying that all the hot girls in SEA do OF now and only pine for rich foreigners true? I see a bunch of people on some forums like SMF say that they all pine for Korean dudes but there are also alot of self idenitified ricecels on there so I take it with a grain of salt.
Anybody been to Koh Lanta? Would it be good in June/July?
Had my eye on Vietnam, trying to decide between HCMC and Hanoi
>like DIY indie/punk gigs/art events and stuff like streetwear and skating
>wanna make friends with lots of zoomers
>i like egirls a lot
Which one for me lads? From what I can make out HCMC has more people and opportunities but the culture on offer can skew more commercial, whilst Hanoi is more boomery and has less happening but is more 'authentic' too
yes I know I asked this exact same question in the China thread
>>like DIY indie/punk gigs/art events and stuff like streetwear and skating
make friends with lots of zoomers
>>i like egirls a lot
oh god you sound awful. is this b8?
wherever you go just stay away from me
where are you? we're gonna hang out and be besties
I see, thanks anon
Is there actually that much going on in HCMC compared to Bangkok or even east Asian cities like Tokyo/Seoul?
Never been so only judging from social media posts, but the main thing about BKK that caught my eye was that it basically had just as much going on as places like London/NYC/LA but without the pretentious trust fund snobbery of those three cities - everyone I saw in instagram posts of cool events just looked like normal people that I could become friends with easily, whereas hipsters back home are stuck up dickheads for no good reason
bump
For your specifics, definitely Saigon. Hanoi is much more conservative and the zoomer culture while influenced by social media is still much closer to old norms. It's funny to watch girls wearing nice dresses and taking pictures posing in front of everything but you're not going to find a date easily as a tourist. Saigon is still overall far more traditional than say Bangkok or Manilla, but has a modern feeling culture and, frankly, a higher proportion of good looking girls.
>the zoomer culture while influenced by social media is still much closer to old norms
wdym?
Specific neighborhoods/spots to check out in HCMC?
Can anybody redpill me on parts of Bangkok? It's fricking huge and I don't know what to check out. Khaosan is supposed to be cool?
Khaosan is the part that's full of c**ts.
Oh. What's cool then?
Nana/Asok is alright. Those and Khaosan are the only three places I'm familiar with in Bangers; I was too obsessed with cooming and couldn't wait to escape to Pattaya.
Bang Krachao is probably nice if you love nature but I never got around to going. Will definitely go next time though.
How was Pattaya? I'm only a moderate coomer and it seems like a gross place to me but I'm just going by the memes.
The central city itself is a shithole, too many people; too much traffic; not very clean, very noisy. The Thais there are usually fine but, aside from the bar girls, they're the least-friendly I've encountered anywhere in the country - these people are jaded by Western sexpats in comparison. The beach is nice enough for a walk or sit and read a book - beautiful sunsets - but only Russians and Thais generally dare swim in the polluted water. It's the 16th (or 17th?) most popular tourist destination in the world so a massive variety of nationalities there, although 99% of the Westerners, Japanese, and Koreans there are coomers. Loads of Chinese; Indians; Russians; and Arabs just on regular holiday though, with the Indians occasionally having a crack at cooming if they can find a cheap enough girl.
Outside the centre down in Jomtien or Pratumnak it's much more chilled, significantly quieter - hardly any Chinese and Indians - and the Thais are a bit warmer, although aesthetically it's still a bit rough around the edges. The beach is better too although still shit for Thailand standards - but if you want nice beaches you can get the 45 min ferry from Pattaya to Ko Laan island for very cheap, which I recommend doing. Nakula is kinda similar to Jomtien but more vehicle traffic along the busy main street leading out of central Patts and the beach isn't conveniently located relative to everything else, like in Jomtien. It's easy to get from either Jomtien or Naklua to Pattaya for 10-20 baht on a songthaew but it can take up to 30-40 mins when the trafffic is really bad in high season sometimes, so not the kind of thing you can to be doing every day probably.
>Naklua
michael jackson
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What is the best kind of baggage to use for SEA travel?
Bros, I fricking hate yuppies. What's the best Thai beach for me? No Pattaya.
I've barely ever traveled and I'm thinking of flying from Toronto to Bangkok for 2-3 weeks and checkout some cities/temples and see what living there is like since I might want to retire there.
There's no nonstop flights, but lots of different airlines with different 1 stops, so I was wondering, is it worth stopping in one of these areas for longer, like a week?
Eva Air - stops in Taiwan
Air India - stops in India
Philippine Airlines - stops in Manila
Korean Air - stops in Seoul
Turkish Airlines - stops in Istanbul
Emirates - stops in Dubai
Air Canada - stops in London before going direct to Bangkok with Thai Airways
Based on google flights, all of them are between 20-30hrs and only about a $1k difference or so for a roundtrip in business class (I've never flown business but I really want to for the extra leg room for such long flights).
There's so many different ones to choose from, I have a hard time deciding because I have no idea how good these airlines are. Every one I search has a recent review on tripadvisor about how it's the worst airline ever with no customer service and a million problems.
I was originally planning Taiwan but I didn't see much interesting things worth spending time there.
I saw there was a water park and aquarium in Dubai which seems fun, idk anything about the UAE though.
Manila seems interesting and I'd like to check it out as a potential retirement destination too but seems like everyone has problems with the Philippine Airlines, and apparently they still require cvid testing from unvxd.
Not really interested in India, Instanbul, or London but maybe I just need to look more into them.
I would appreciate hearing what anons think of these airlines/possible destinations, or if I should just spend all that time in Thailand.
You can stopover in Taiwan if you like Taiwanese food. Not a week stopover but couple days. Food culture is pretty big there. My parents are from Taiwan. If not try another airline.
Air India sounds absolutely terrible. Paajets being loud and horny for their lay into Thailand? Cmon dude
Philippine airlines. You could do couple days and week here to recon the place for retirement. not bad idea
Korean air. Tbh never saw that many routes for this airline when booking flight to TH. Heard it’s expensive and the second leg of trip is long. First leg is shorter.
Turkish, Emirates, Air Canada Airlines never saw route for this airline to TH Any route that doesn’t take pacific is suboptimal- flight is too long
>Air India sounds absolutely terrible. Paajets being loud and horny for their lay into Thailand? Cmon dude
kek good point, I've talked to a few indian people at work and even they told me their airport smells like poo
>Philippine airlines
Have you flown with them before? They're ranked 77/100 on the Skytrax airline rank chart but idk if that's just a meme
>Korean air. Heard it’s expensive and the second leg of trip is long. First leg is shorter.
First leg is 13hrs and 2nd leg is 6hrs, it's similarly priced to the other flights $6k-8k (pic related) depending on the dates which I'm very flexible on.
Prices vary wildly on different days between different airlines, or if I make it a multi-city flight and stay at one of the stops, so I think I could most of them work.
>I would include Cathay for Hong Kong
Prices for Cathay seem much more expensive, hitting 10-12k which is a bit much, especially compared to other airlines. Is it worth it?
>and ANA air for Japan
I could do this but going direct is expensive at 13k. I could get a connecting flight through O'Hare or Los Angeles and get it down to 8k but it seems like I'd really be going out of my way to use ANA.
Thanks for the heads up, I heard horrible things about Air Canada from everyone I know as well, it's somehow ranked at 50 in the https://www.worldairlineawards.com/worlds-top-100-airlines-2022/
which makes me question how bad Philippine Airlines are that they're ranked lower than that.
10-12k what? Baht?
If that is in CAD what the frick? My one way flight a month and a half ago was like $700 and I used loyalty points to pay for most of it.
No, you should not pay 5 figures for a flight, ever.
For perspective, even economy would be $2400.
I haven't had a vacation in 6 years and the last time I flew to iceland in economy I was miserable the entire flight being squished in next to everyone, legs cramping, couldn't sleep, was tired and annoyed by every little thing the first few days, and that was only a ~6 hour flight.
Since it's a round trip it's basically an extra 4-6k to save myself 40 hours of misery and enjoy the vacation more, which I agree is expensive but I don't know how I could do it more affordably. Maybe a cruise? I think that alone would take up my entire vacation.
Thanks for sharing your experience, I'm not familiar with their airport, is it that bad?
How would you compare the airline to other ones? Were there any that made you think "that was really great"?
>I'm not familiar with their airport, is it that bad?
i've read a lot of stories about it, mainly from people who had to change terminal, like from international to domestic
i did have one incident but it was pretty minor. however the airport is pretty confusing and nobody seems to know what to do or where to go and the staff and not helpful
>How would you compare the airline to other ones? Were there any that made you think "that was really great"?
there are a lot of great asian/middle eastern airlines like cathay pacific, singapore airlines, emirates, qatar etc and philippines is pretty crappy compared to those but of course you have to take cost into account.
Thanks for the response, emirates is feeling like a better choice then.
>economy class for 12H+ isnt that bad
Different people handle it better, I was ready to end it all after 6 hours, there's no way I'll be able to last 15 hrs, I'd rather stay at home than go through that again.
>5000+ just to be moderately more comfortable isnt worth it
It's not just levels of comfort, it's between being comfortable vs painful tired miserable.
>could be spent having a wayyyy better time at your destination instead
Lets say I budget ~15k for the whole trip. Am I really going to benefit that much from only being able to spend 8k instead of 13k in Dubai/Thailand? It's only 3 weeks. I could still spend $380/day and have a great time. What more am I able to get out of it if I could spend $620/day?
What if I bumped my budget up to 20k? 30k? It might seem like a lot but if I average how many times I take a vacation that's only $3.3k-5k/year, which is about average.
I can't really think of anything else that I could spend $5k on that would improve a vacation as much as a comfortable flight when the budget is already pretty high. More women? More luxurious hotels? More expensive restaurants? More wild/expensive activities? idk none of that sounds too worthwhile in comparison.
>I flew Cathay to HK I found the food to be quite enjoyable and seats were good
I hear good things about Cathay, unfortunate that they seem to be mostly pacific flights. Seems very pricey in Toronto, cheapest I can find are all $4k+ and that's in economy.
>If Philippine airlines is rated low, its probably for valid reasons. I wouldnt fly them unless I specifically wanted to get to PH
Yeah I'm thinking it might be worth coughing up a little bit extra to fly EVA Air if I do decide to go to PH
I am the first guy.
Painful tired miserable is Thailand 50% of the time. Are you sure you want to retire here? Have you been there before? - $4000 for leg stretching is not worth it speaking from experience. It's an absurd amount of money. It will buy you a third of a year in a luxury Thai apartment or a whole year in a not so luxury apartment. Is twelve hours worth 365 days to you? If so why the frick are you retiring in Thailand?
You are budgeting $15k?? That is a year of Thailand rent included.
If you want to spend it its your money and nobody will judge you or know you spent it. Just know that it is excessive.
>Painful tired miserable is Thailand 50% of the time. Are you sure you want to retire here? Have you been there before?
What makes it those things 50% of the time? I heard about burning season and the heat and humidity, but it sounds like it's still fine indoors.
I haven't been there before, I was planning this to be both a vacation (first half), and getting a feel for the place (2nd half) where I would live like normal there so I can better gauge if it is somewhere I'd like to retire.
>- $4000 for leg stretching is not worth it speaking from experience.
Yeah I get that it's not a lot of value to most people, personally I can't stand being elbow to elbow brushing shoulders surrounded by people for more than an hour without feeling like freaking out. I can't stand packed movie theatres either.
It's not like I want to spend a lot of money but I don't see any other way to avoid it without spending money
>It's an absurd amount of money. It will buy you a third of a year in a luxury Thai apartment or a whole year in a not so luxury apartment. Is twelve hours worth 365 days to you? If so why the frick are you retiring in Thailand?
That's a good way of looking at it, using it to pad out my retirement for more safety would be the financially correct decisions.
I'm not a millionaire only have about 400k, so I know it'd go a much longer way if I just saved it, so why can't I just suck it up and deal with being miserable on 40hrs of flights? I guess I'm just very adverse to being stuck next to people, I probably have some mild autism/aspergers.
>You are budgeting $15k?? That is a year of Thailand rent included.
Honestly I haven't set a budget yet. That was more to demonstrate that there isn't much to spend money on "at the destination" that would improve things that much.
I think I'd have to really go out of my way to hit that too. I imagine the flights would probably be 70-80% of the cost of the entire trip
>400k
You should get into forex trading if you haven't already, especially if you want to travel. If you aren't a fat frick the hot season isn't even that bad. Just dress like a local and if you exercise you'll acclimate relatively fast. It took me about a week coming from London, but I also went to train Muay Thai.
>get into forex trading
I do a combination of normie FIRE investing, dumping into index funds from my dayjob and try to get enough to live off 4% a year, and half crypto degen gambling.
Only did a little bit of forex when CAD/USD was volatile the past few years, but I don't know enough to get an edge beyond looking at historical norms. What sort of ways do you see to get an edge with forex trading?
>What makes it those things 50% of the time? I heard about humidity, but it sounds like it's still fine indoors.
That’s primarily what gets tourists annoyed with Thailand. It’s hot, all the time, it’s this thick sloppy relentless sauna that doesn’t stop ever. It’s somewhat better during nov to march. there’s no way to avoid it unless you just never go outside and stay in air conditioned hotels or malls. But you’ll find eventually you have to move around and going outside walking around for about hour, it starts to zap your willpower + energy. Only way is to suck it up and stop being a b***h and eventually maybe it won’t suck so bad
>It’s somewhat better during nov to march
Thanks, that's interesting, that's the exact months where I get covered in snow.
Does all of SEA have this kind of rough hot summers? Or is it uniquely bad in Thailand? Are some cities better than others in this regard or all they all about the same too much humidity?
It's supposed to be much milder in the mountains.
Bangkok is pretty far south so it's very bad. Laos and Vietnam (the upper half) are much better in summer (though still hot). And it even gets cold in winter.
Not that other guy, but I would reconsider flying business unless you were getting an upgrade for it at a discount. $5000+ just to be moderately more comfortable isnt worth it, and could be spent having a wayyyy better time at your destination instead. I havent flown business class before but economy class for 12H+ isnt that bad, I get in 1 1-2H of sleep. compared to business where one could sleep longer 3-4H? for massive increase in price ionno
I flew Cathay to HK I found the food to be quite enjoyable and seats were good
If Philippine airlines is rated low, its probably for valid reasons. I wouldnt fly them unless I specifically wanted to get to PH and there werent other options and I was on shoestring budget
The main problem is that the terminals are not connected to one another so you have to check out and in to transfer. Besides you need to take a shuttle or a taxi to the next terminal. I wouldn’t do a 1 day transfer in Manila until they get their new airport up in a few years.
Misread, didn't see you were flying business class. I strongly urge you to reconsider because those are absurd prices - $5000 is likely far more than you would spend during your entire trip.
airlines
>Have you flown with them before? They're ranked 77/100 on the Skytrax airline rank chart but idk if that's just a meme
i'm not that anon but i have used them. a few months ago i went from malaysia to australia via manila. it was a work trip, i had a set budget, i wanted business class and they were within the budget.
they were ok. the seats were ok, the food was ok, the service was ok, the lounge at manila was ok
basically they were just ok
i think a lot of their bad press comes from the kafkaesque nature of the airport in manila
Reading your post again I forgot your leaving from Toronto. So it’s possible you won’t take pacific direction. Yeah just go for whatever is lowest price, lowest time in the air, and stopover in country that’s somewhat interesting. I would include Cathay for Hong Kong and ANA air for Japan. The latter is incredibly kino
I'm from London and took Cathay Pacific through Hong Kong. They are one of the best airlines in the world. Whatever you pick, don't take Air Canada, it is one of the worst airlines in the world.
Anyone unvaccinated been to Indonesia? They say they require proof of vaccination. But also appears you can quaratine?
>unvaccinated
Cringe.
I haven't been but what I can find online it sounds like they might not even check anymore. If they do it's possible a fake paper with proof of vaccination might work - unless they coordinate with every single country's healthcare database to verify, but I doubt anyone does that. If you're honest they might just ask you to quarantine for 5 days but not enforce it.
All in all there's always the risk of being denied entry. Up to you how much you want to risk it.
>no sex talk in the sex work capital of the world
Get off your high horse and accept reality, moron.
I just got back from a month in Thailand, great experience all around. From my experience as an American passport holder, no proof of onward travel was needed, neither was any vaccination proof. As a matter of fact 90% of people in Suvarnabhumi didn't have a mask on. I spent 2 weeks in Pattaya and 2 traveling around the temples and villages in northern Isan. I didn't initially go there to coom but being a nonreligious white man in my mid 20's, it's hard not to. Especially because I am vain and went to Soi 6 to have women crawling all over me. I eventually met one who was fricking amazing, beautiful soul, but me being the piece of shit that I am ghosted her after promising to take care of her. I absolutely loved the country and spent way more time there than expected. Next year I want to visit Vietnam and Lao, but in all honesty I might just end up back in Thailand. Beautiful country full of beautiful people. As a side note, I did try out a lady boy once. It was a bad experience for me. There's a major difference between a horny woman and a horny ladyboy. You can literally smell the contrast in pheromones and it's uncanny.
Did you ever wonder why we even have blue boards on fricking SighSee, a site nobody sane would browse in public anyway?
That's because if you allow smut, it creeps up in volume until it takes over the place and nothing else can be discussed anymore. This is exactly why OP wanted a no sex talk thread - the moment one of you fricks starts bragging about how many ladyboys gangbanged his ass, all other topics inevitably get drowned out in Pattaya crampie stories.
>Did you ever wonder why
No, actually. Anyways, on your next trip to Thailand I recommend Wat Kai, its depictions of hell on earth resemble what I imagine your parents felt raising such a buzzkill homosexual. The largest Buddha in the country is also a short drive away.
Does anyone have experience with dental tourism in Thailand? I am French and healthcare here is free but the quality is abysmal. I've been to 5 or 6 different dentists who did nothing but torture me and frick up my teeth. I now have a massive ceramic onlay which is broken with a huge cavity inside the onlay. I was going to Thailand anyways so I might as well fix my teeth over there. How much would it cost, and does anyone have recommendations?
Not personally but my friend got a root canal and crown done there for like $300 and said it was the best dental work he'd ever had done. I don't know how he's evaluating that exactly but he was pleased with the whole experience.
Samar/Leyte area of the Phillipines has some great snorkling spots. This is from my trip from the area.
this might be a stupid question but does literally every SEA girl have a story about being late on rent because her pet died or she has some rare disease or her family got kidnapped or whatever?
excruciatingly common
>my shot won't work unless you take it also!
moron
I've never ridden a motorcycle/scooter before, but I want to do it in the SEA countryside. Will any of the rental places teach a farang like me how to operate it or do I have to know somebody?
They're automatic. Just twist the throttle moron
.... It's really that easy? So basically if I know how to keep my balance on a bicycle there's nothing to even learn?
>moron
I guess maybe I deserved this.
If you've ever ridden a bicycle downhill you can ride a scooter. There's a reason you see 12 year olds riding them all the time in SEA.
This only applies to developed countries. The 12 year olds in SEA have been getting carried around on those things since birth so they've intuitively picked up on how to navigate traffic. They also adhere to moronic superstitious beliefs (if you get hit it's because of bad karma so you should donate money to a temple instead of investing in a helmet and brake pads). I've seen people drive in the Thai countryside with their lights completely off at night. When asked about this people say "it's to avoid attracting ghosts". One guy told me "it's to save battery". Personally I wouldn't take cues from inbred ass backwards brown people but you do you man.
>cope: the post
No, don’t listen to this anon. I’ve come across too many fricking moronic Western tourists with bruises and awful scratches because they thought the same. Take a brief motorcycle introductory course on a manual, and learn stuff such as counter steering, throttle control and low-speed maneuvering so you won’t end up in a coffin.
Again, if you were sheltered to the point of not understanding how two wheeled vehicles move they you may as well have a nice day now. The only challenge comes from learning local traffic habits. You're unfortunately too stupid to comprehend what I'm saying.
Not that anon, you're giving genuinely bad advice and you should stop posting. SEA isn't the place to learn how to ride.Full stop.
>be you
>learn how to ride in minecraft flatlands
>go to SEA
>instantly die because you aren't used to traffic and having to make quick evasive movements
vs
>be me, a worldwide intellectual sex symbol
>trial by fire, learn on the streets of LA and watching crash compilations
>come to Bangkok and easily adjust, if you could even call it an adjustment
The choice is ultimately yours. I could care less if I end up seeing your censored corpse on channel 1 while I'm plowing some 19 year old bar girl from behind (for free, of course).
Not the guy you replied to, but creating a false sexual power fantasy in greentext where you are clearly better than the other person shows how deluded you've become.
just to be clear: the topic is about motorcycle safety for foreigners. not about ur coom-brained power fantasy about sex with bargirls for free
All you've done by replying is make your insecurities painfully obvious to anyone who happens to read this thread. Now make like a tree, and leaf.
I haven't said anything but the truth. It's you who should be aware of others seeing your insecurity
He's being antagonistic for no real reason, ignore the attitude. That being said, SEA isn't the place to learn how to ride a motorcycle/scooter. Yes most have a DCT/automatic but the roads/traffic are much more unforgiving. If you're insistent on it, wear ALL the safety gear they provide, and I would insist on at minimum finding a full face helmet.
I wouldn't even think about trying to learn it in Bangkok. I want to ride it through the countryside. Do you know anything about getting a license there? Can I just walk in and take the test?
You don't need a license anywhere in SEA. Go to a smaller town in whatever country you're in, stay at a hotel/hostel that rents bikes, and rent one and take it out at night when the roads are empty.
If you've got time to kill and you're still nervous, look up a scooter/moped/motorcycle training/safety course in your destination country. (I included all those slashes because the same shit is advertised differently.) You'll pay $50 to ride a beat-up scooter on a dirt track you can drop as much as you want. If you do that, might as well pay extra to learn how to drive manual.
>t. moron
Nice reading comprehension.
All these questions you have could be answered by a series of Google searches and a YouTube tutorial.
Obtain an international driver's license prior to travel. Google rental facilities in your desired base location. Don't let them take your passport as collateral.
How little do you value your life? You're just asking to get clipped by someone who isn't looking and get some road rash or worse.
Look up Honda safety riding park. They have 3 locations in Thailand: Chiang Mai, Bangkok and Phuket. Take a few full day courses with them. If you've never driven before SEA isn't the place to learn. We have enough dead newbie farang rider news stories already.
>t.anon who learned to drive on Thai roads and wouldn't recommend it without a proper course first
Does anyone know how long it takes on average to get an apartment in the Philippines and anything on the process in general? I'm going to book an airbnb for a month from one of the places that look like hotels to be safe but I don't know anything about actually renting an apartment and I haven't been able to find a guide on the process online anywhere. I have asked in the Philippine general but everyone just talks about cooming all the time. Any information would help thanks.
>I have asked in the Philippine general but everyone just talks about cooming all the time.
That's crazy, yo.
Look for apartment listings on Facebook marketplace. Sometimes, you can move in within a week. The landlord will usually know you are unfamiliar with the process and will guide you through it.
alright thanks
Any advice on bringing a few gel tabs of LSD on a flight to Thailand? If it was paper I'd just stick it in a book but I don't know how much they look at shit when you fly internationally. I assume it's easy to get away with but it's also my ass if I'm caught so should I just not do it or am I being paranoid for no reason?
Put them in your carry on mixed with other regular gummies.
'till they see some of the gummies aren't quite shaped like the others and then it's your homosexual ass
Gel tabs aren't even gummies at all. They look like this but I've only got four of them.
Forgot pic
I don't see why it's worth the risk. What does being high in Thailand add over your regular high?
>am I being paranoid for no reason?
You're paranoid about breaking the law, which is a pretty good reason.
You've clearly never taken acid.
I pray you get caught and find out what prison's like in the real world.
>praying for somebody to go to prison
I doubt God thinks much of that negativity and ill will you're directing toward him
>assuming I pray to God
Awfully shortsighted for a le enlightened junkie.
I haven't, that's why I asked.
I brought a weed pen in my hygiene kit no problem. Even walked by a drug dog in London with ease.
Based moron.
It's not stupid if it works, homosexual. Have fun in prison for the rest of your life though because you can't go a month without tripping lmfao
Settle down homie, damn.
I'll get help if you do.
Cope, uneducated monkey
Bali is absolutely magical. This coming from someone who had no expectations other than that it would be packed by tourists.
>Bali is absolutely magical. This coming from someone who had no expectations other than that it would be packed by tourists.
Tell us more. My friend seems to be having orgies with northern euro girls on repeat there as a broke kpop maxxed burmese guy
I didn’t go there for cooming, I was referring to the overall atmosphere, how dedicated the locals are to their culture, religion and aesthetics despite living in the globalized world, the k i n o landscape, the friendliness of the locals despite having to deal with moronic bogans, bongs and slavs all the time, and the cuisine.
But it seems about a great place to go to if you wanna plow white women every day.
About the local women, good luck. It’s not very common for them to even genuinely date a foreigner. There are loads of BWC-hungry, repressed Javanese girls there though.
Can Japanese escorts be found in Bangkok? Really want to sleep with a J girl once in my life, and I think this is my only chance.
Fricked a JAV-like one with 10/10 breasts in all 3 holes in Manila for €120. Has to be a bunch there in Bangkok for sure.
No, she moaned normally, not like in JAV.
if she didn't moan like in JAV she isn't JAV-like. are you an idiot? don't answer that. post pics before claiming anything btw, and don't just rip one off smooci.
Due to covid, most Japanese international traveling escorts went back to Japan. It is possible that they are selling their wares again now that it's over, but I haven't seen any typical advertisements.
It might be hard to find in Bangkok, but you can find real Japanese in Dubai very easily, though it's more pricey.
Is Myanmar safe for westoid tourists? The US State Department says no but they're a bunch of pussies all around so what does SighSee say? Mandalay looks cool.
The military has the country locked down and stories of random non-natives being arrested under various suspicions of posting negative opinions online pop up here and there.
If you think it’s worth a gamble, go for it. But it’s still somewhat undergoing a revolution.
I highly suggest staying off the motorbike as a newbie to Thailand, and just in general.
I know you think it sounds convenient or even romantic (in the adventure sense) to ride a motorcycle around Thailand, but it is the #1 most dangerous and risky thing you can possibly do except snorting random drug powders in a club (everything has fent in it now, don't do it).
If you absolutely must do it, be the guy who dutifully wears a good closed helmet every time. It will save your life or even just your face/teeth when(not if) you get into a crash.
Rent a bright colored bike and put extra lights on it. Frick put led strips on it. Do what it takes to be visible, and never drive around after 00:00, because it's all drunks or tired/strung out drivers.
Seriously.
>t. Lost a good friend to a Thailand motorbike accident
Just returned from Philippines. The optimism is high in this country among locals, and I can sympathize with them. The nation is growing rapidly and construction is going on everywhere. The nation looks drastically improved compared to 9 years ago. I’m considering finding a local educated qt pinay to travel around and buy land together to develop for tourism and agriculture, will likely have huge RoI.
I love this country despite its flaws. Frick Villars tho, they can eat the nastiest part of my butthole.
It looks exactly the same as a decade ago tbqwyf, they don't have the iq to be another korea, china or even thailand.
malaysia for instance has a ton of malays, same people as in the philippines, but the chinese minority makes it somewhat civilized
>It looks exactly the same as a decade ago tbqwyf
Shut the frick up Black person, no it doesn’t. You goddamn chimp, tell me where you are. I’ll beat your pathetic fricking fat ass to a pulp.
>malaysia for instance has a ton of malays, same people as in the philippines, but the chinese minority makes it somewhat civilized
with that logic, Brazil would be a thriving safe first world country. Maybe the truth is that Pinoys and Malays are more intelligent and civilized than what your dumbass fricking mutt brain can imagine?
Black folk are so catastrophic that even white minorities can't salvage brazil, and those "whites" are mostly pardo.
You need to read Richard Lynn.
>You need to read Richard Lynn.
>man who literally made up IQ for certain nations and couldn’t even get alot of his sources straight
He’s only right about Black folk. Everything else is a huge meme. He’s an actual zogbot homosexual and so are you
If malays are on par with chinks then explain Singapore.
this is a funny post considering who built and ran singapore
consider basing yourself out of clark instead, that airport is new and modern, and angeles city is fine as a coomer base of operations where you rest and recharge after exploring
you can fly from clark to anywhere in the Philippines on domestic flights for very cheap
>mutt reading comprehension
Never even implied they were on par with chinks. What I implied is that they aren’t that dumb. If they were, the whole nation would still be an uncivilized mess with theft and murder everywhere like in LatAm.
You’re skipping over so many historical details as to why Philippines in particular is the way it is, going for the midwit take which boils down to “teehee low intelligence quotient points because this book written by this pedo said so”.
The Philippines is a dangerous shithole just like latin america though
>The Philippines is a dangerous shithole just like latin america though
>latam
>streets patrolled by gangsters
>run by druglords
>thousands of no-go zones
>dozens of cases every year of tourists being mugged at gunpoint or even killed
>double digit murder rates
>this is somehow comparable to a nation full of 5’2 island people because some report compiled by boomers said so
Oh no, babby hasn’t explored much of the world.
This picture is arbitrary and moronic. You are moronic for not questioning it.
>Japan is as dangerous as India
>China is as dangerous as Brazil and Bolivia
Latin America is far wealthier than the PHillipines, probably by a factor of four or five.
>Richard Lynn
>Malays are more intelligent and civilized
Lol. Lmao, even
The bigger thing is that they are fricking up relations with China so all that foreign investment is going to dry up
There are other factors that make Malaysia mroe successful than Indonesia or the PHilippines
Please enlighten us.
cooming
Anglo colony.
So was the Philippines...
And lots of the UK's other colonies like in Africa are total hellscapes
not an exclusive list but:
- smaller population
- geographically better located (on trade route and also by most important entreprot in region: singapore)
- plenty of oil (heard of Petronas towers)
- was selected by major playes when they wanted to move parts of semiconductor industry offshore
I don't see how a smaller population is necessarily a good predicator for living standards, nepal is about as fricked up as india if not moreso for instance.
The geography is broadly similar, close to all the big players in east asia.
Oil? Ok, many countries have this and they're not all Norway.
I'm no expert but Taiwan does something like 80-90% of all relevant semi conductor stuff.
America sank a ton of money into the phils as well, it wasn't neglected.
>I don't see how a smaller population is necessarily a good predicator for living standards, nepal is about as fricked up as india if not moreso for instance.
Not on an absolute basis, but if you have finite resources like natural resources, a smaller population means more resources per capita. 30 million people vs 100 million people in case of Malaysia vs Philippines.
>The geography is broadly similar, close to all the big players in east asia.
Philippines is close but it's not on the existing trade route. If you go from Singapore you head up to China and from China you head out into the Pacific. Any detour from that route will increase shipping costs
>Oil? Ok, many countries have this and they're not all Norway.
It's a resourcel ike any other that not only ensures energy security domestically but is an easy way to earn foreign exchange. Malaysia has 3.6 billion proven reserves, Philippines has only 138 million and a much larger population, 3x as large to "share" that resource.
>I'm no expert but Taiwan does something like 80-90% of all relevant semi conductor stuff.
Malaysia long ago, decades ago won a piece of the semiconductor manufacturing chain. Now all the major players are in Malaysia. It's the one country in SEA that has a semiconductor industry. Yes, the rest (most of it) is in Taiwan, Korea and China.
>nepal is about as fricked u
Nepal's problem is being landlocked in the Himalayas. YOu will find similar outcomes for countries stuck in teh middle of Africa or in the middle of South AMerica (namely Bolivia).
>nepal is about as fricked up as india if not moreso for instance.
holy kek, thanks for the laugh. are you Indian by any chance?
>America sank a ton of money into the phils as well
double kek
>I'm no expert but Taiwan does something like 80-90% of all relevant semi conductor stuff.
https://oec.world/en/profile/country/mys/
The top exports of Malaysia are Integrated Circuits ($71B), Refined Petroleum ($29.3B), Palm Oil ($15B), Rubber Apparel ($13.3B), and Petroleum Gas ($10.7B),
integrated circuits are your semiconductor stuff
In all fairness, Philippines do have a huge semiconductor industry too, but they haven’t expanded that fast due to high electricity costs and also holding off until certain reforms have been passed.
To explain the power situation in the Philippines requires a whole 2-hr essay, but to make it short and simple
>only privatized electricity sector in ASEAN(aside from Singapore)
>ruled by actual oligarchs
>sketchy competition in generation
>reliance on imported coal
Compare this to the other ASEAN nations where the state owns all the electricity transmissions and distribution grids, while also subsidizing the rates.
>they don't have the iq to be another korea, china or even thailand.
>even thailand
These tests don't measure IQ, they measure the ability to take a test. THe wealthier a country is, the more money spent on education, the better prepared students/people will be to take a test.
They literally measure the IQ you goddamn fricking moronic goober, look up the fricking sources, some of them even show socioeconomic status on the sampling rates. The notion that “education improves IQ drastically” is pure cope. That’s the whole thing about non-verbal tests. You need to teach a person how to do 2+2. You don’t need to teach a person patterns and spatial relationships. That’s pure genetics.
Jesus I’ve yet to come across a single soul on this whole cantonese noodle forum who have even the slightest idea about what an IQ survey is and how it is done.
Your IQ is below 80
Don't be stupid. Look at some of the sample sizes in those so-called "national IQ" tests you're citing: 22 people!
LMAO. You really have to be a moron to believe a test given to 22 people is going to tell you anything about a supposed national IQ.
Okay, let’s ignore those tiny sample rates under 100.
How much does that change?
wtf is up with Cambodia?!
Aversion to appearing intelligent for fear of being mass murdered again.
I actually know a bunch of Filipino immigrants. Some of the nicest people I've met, but goddamn, they don't quite fire on all cylinders.
>can't read price tags in stores
>cooks chicken on an open fire that was started with gasoline & old magazines
Jesus fricking Christ. You can take them out of the third world, but you can't take the third world out of them.
>cooks chicken on an open fire that was started with gasoline & old magazines
Wait, Americans don’t do this? How the frick do you start a coal fire? Do you all just have gas ovens instead?
>t. Scandy
>How the frick do you start a coal fire?
If we use paper, it's usually significantly less toxic than glossy color-print magazines. Other than that, we'll also use wood chips, wood shavings, dry grass, etc.
Some people use "charcoal starter" which is glorified lighter fluid, but there are people who don't like to use those kinds of fuels because it can affect the taste of the food. At the very least, we're not supposed to use fricking gasoline (or "petrol" as you Europeans call it).
And I'll admit I missed one important detail. This Filipino I know fueled the entire fire with gasoline & magazines. He didn't even add any wood or charcoal, he just kept adding more gasoline & magazines.
What the frick, but in all fairness, I’ve been virtually all over Philippines for years and the only occasions I’ve seen someone burn magazines is when they are burning trash. Never have I seen anyone use anything besides wood or coal when grilling. Not even literal homeless people in Manila use anything besides wood when cooking rice on the street.
It’s likely you just happened to come across one goofball whose parents made him like that by grilling their food like that.
Manila airport left a terrible taste in my mouth, but I want to go back and give the country another chance. Which islands/cities do you recommend I prioritize? I'm thinking of renting a condo in Manila for the duration of my visa as a sort of home base, and traveling around to different islands for one or two days at a time. I also would like to meet girls as I know jack shit about the language and a translator would be nice.
I would suggest Cebu City instead. It’s cheaper, and is situated near a nice beachy area, though it’s full of shanties and broken roads. Most people prefer it though because as said, it’s near some nice beaches, Cebu island itself is pretty nice overall, lot’s of nice girls there, despite alot of shanties it has way less homeless and street kids, and its location also makes it easier and cheaper to go to eg Bohol, Siquijor and Blacks. Camote islands are pretty comfy too.
Oh yeah, also its airport is pretty nice
I have one night in Bangkok.
I have money to spend coomin, but don’t want to get cat fished by a chubby issan mother than posts obviously photoshopped pictures online. Where can I find the tightest Thai teens in Bangkok? Should I go to nana or look online?
Vietnamese are the SeaKINGS of iq
>Hungary
>Iran
>Serbia
>Iran
>+110 IQ
Please tell me where you found this holy shit, my sides have left the solar system
It was conducted by a finnish iq testing company
https://m.hanoitimes.vn/vietnam-ranks-9th-among-global-average-intelligence-quotient-320916.html
>sampling national IQs online
top kek, that’s cool results but you have to be braindead if you think this is a very reliable way to conduct IQ tests.
We have no idea about the sampling rate are, and there are clearly scenarios where the sampling is biased towards the higher end of a nation.
Literal African nations score nearly as high as white countries here.
https://www.worldwide-iq-test.com/iq-tests
Viets probably are the smartest non-chinks in SEA though. Communism did kneecap them, but they're dropping that china-style
See
Virtually all SEAmonkeys are 90 IQ midwits.
Yeah but flips are more like 80iq half-wits
Why are you so obsessed over calling specifically flips low IQ morons? Did one 3’2 flip midget steal your lunch money in elementary? The concrete numerical evidence speaks for itself: you’re wrong and you’re a fricking moron.
Look at manila vs HCMC or bangkok. Got nothing more to say to you pinoy
>cities = peak IQ measurement
>actual sampled evidence = NOOO THIS DOESN’T COUNT LALALAL I CANT READ
You’re too braindead to read up history as to why Manila became what it is today while the cities in nations with ample fertile lands and a historically mostly rural population(up untill very recently) had less poorgays to absorb over time. A sub African Black person would be more rational over this than (You)
I'm sure the reason haiti is less developed than DR is purely economic factors and trading lanes huh?
>comparing cities with nations
Jesus Christ, this whole shit just started with me voicing optimism for flips, and it devolved into having to be a tard wrangler for losers who are completely unhinged over flips, and despite being spoonfed evidence, still cannot accept a reality where their average IQs are roughly the same as their SEA counterparts.
This is actually one of the most pathetic things I’ve ever witnessed in my entire life.
Learn a little bit about history and geography before you run your mouth
In defense of peenoise, it’s pretty clear that it’s mostly the intelligent ones who live in Bangkok and HCMC, while the rural parts have alot of actual morons. Probably some form of controlled migration into the city. If Manila had the same, including birth control, it would inarguably be much nicer.
He's right though. Flips have this innocent stupidity thing going on that other conniving seamonkeys don't have.
Filipinas I saw regularly struggled to open mouth wash caps, for example. They didn't even bother looking for instructions, just twisted them against the plastic incorrectly till they were all warped out of shape, then they would come to me and ask how.
>Filipinas I saw regularly struggled to open mouth wash caps, for example. They didn't even bother looking for instructions, just twisted them against the plastic incorrectly till they were all warped out of shape, then they would come to me and ask how.
This. I stayed with my girlfriends family and they opened a bottle of honey by throwing it against the walll and then rolling the motorcycle over it. They said they always open it like that
If IQ tests didn’t exist, you’d likely think China as some sort of 80 IQ shithole based on all the .webms posted on /gif/.
>jews are obsessed over manipulating the IQs of a poor region of 5’4 manlets
Stop, stop I can’t stop cringing.
>Filipinas I saw regularly struggled to open mouth wash caps, for example. They didn't even bother looking for instructions, just twisted them against the plastic incorrectly till they were all warped out of shape, then they would come to me and ask how.
>I stayed with my girlfriends family and they opened a bottle of honey by throwing it against the walll and then rolling the motorcycle over it. They said they always open it like that
Holy kek this is the funniest shit I've ever read
>trust the science goy!
israelite science isn't science.
Look at it just with the cultural output, thais and viets read, there's bookshops everywhere, they have a literary tradition, art, culture.
Flips are completely anti-intellectual, noone reads, they don't even have a proper film industry like the aforementioned.
>there's bookshops everywhere
There is in Philippines too? What the frick are you even talking about?
>they don't even have a proper film industry like the aforementioned.
Only Thailand has that. They are the only ones in the region that produce noteworthy movies and series.
And this doesn’t even gauge IQ in any sense. It just shows which nation has a more refined policy on the entertainment industry. Korea blows all of its East Asian counterparts in this regard. Does that mean Taiwan is a 70 IQ shithole?
Taiwan is smol, but they still have kino makers like ang lee and teresa teng was a massively popular singer
>missing the point completely
Martsharter intellectualism at its finest
Can you name a single bigger star than those two from the Philippines? Should be easy since Taiwan is 20 million people and the Philippines has 100 million.
And no, I don't mean some chica who won a beauty pageant or a boxer, I mean cultural contributors.
Well, Lea Salonga is quite famous, and SB19 is known by alot of people. UDD was also in the global spotlight a decade ago. Wouldn’t say bigger, but definitely nothing to brush under the carpet.
Excuse me, why the frick are we talking about the entertainment industry again? And why are we comparing a Southeast Asian nation with an East Asian nation?
Thinking of going to the Philippines for 2 weeks with my girlfriend, any suggestions on where to go or what to do?
I'm open to other places than the Philippines but I figure the Philippines makes sense as a destination as my girlfriend is Vietnamese so it's one of the places she can get to visa-free and also she's never been there before (she's already been to Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia).
If you pimp your gf to sexpats then the trip pays for itself.
coomers are like Black folk. Incapable of going 1 minute without thinking about 'muh dik'.
also this thread is dead. Someone bake a new one.
I want to go to Thailand, Laos and Vietnam.
I need to get a visa for all three, correct?
Afaik, each country has a 30 day visa.
I want to go for 60 days in total.
If I spend two weeks in Thailand, 2 weeks in Laos, 2 weeks in Vietnam, then another 2 weeks in Thailand, do I need to get two visas for Thailand?
Is that possible?
>Is that possible?
Yes