Is thailand a good place to move to with 15k in savings? Any accomodation recommendations? I live in hell and must move.
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Is thailand a good place to move to with 15k in savings? Any accomodation recommendations? I live in hell and must move.
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Looks like idol worshipping
The building is a temple complex, and the white things are just decorating monuments Thai kings built for their previous kings, tbh. Only the big one, which supposedly contains Buddha's remains is worshiped.
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as others have said, you are not "moving" here. you are merely visiting temporarily. you can visit Thailand up to 6 times in a year, getting 30 days at a time.
the vast majority of ripoffs in Thailand involve transport for hire. you can usually find a hotel near the bus terminal or railway station, but still, the heat and traffic make walking around an ordeal.
Have fun burning in the afterlife
like taxis or bike taxis? I thought they were pretty cheap on uber there.
Of course you can use rideshare apps in Bangkok. Bolt is very affordable. But outside the big city, good luck finding a rideshare driver.
If you are staying near the beach, you are going to pay a premium for everything. Any beach resort destination in the world is like that.
>Asians work long hours in the heat for a very small profit margin
>Dey are da reel israelitez!!!
1 800 COME ON NOW
Piles of reeking trash bags on the sidewalk are a common sight throughout Thailand. Litter is usually swept up. As far as development, parts of Thailand are highly developed, others are primitive and backwards. Kanchanaburi definitely falls into the latter category.
Which parts are great? Any reasonably priced beach places that arent pattaya?
there are some on the eastern cost south from Bangkok, near Ban Krut, Chumpon etc.
these will be very small
Songkhla looks to have affordable hotels.
Gas yourself, Shlomo
>Is thailand a good place to move to with 15k in savings?
If you're going to a tourist area the locals would immediately know how much money you have just by looking at you and then will start to charge obscene prices for everything you ask for. Sure, you could haggle aggressively and take them down every time, but overtime it will get depressing, knowing all people care about is your money. You could probably live on 15k for a few months.
>I live in hell
But then again, I don't know where do you live and what do you consider to be hell. In any case you can't just "move" into Thailand for more than 1-3 months (including extensions) without some sort of a visa plan, like for work or studying, unless you're going full-fugitive-survival-mode. You can also purchase a visa for five years but it costs about 25k.
>must move
When I was in Thailand all I cared about was prostitutes and drugs, but no matter how much I got, I still felt empty. I'm planning to go again next year but this time it's going to be some sort of a pilgrimage. Not in the religious sense, but just to try and absorb everything. I still intend to go after the hookers and the drugs, but this time I'll actually try to travel and see the parks, temples, shrines, museums, etc.
"We must experience everything. Not just the good, but degradation, horror, sadness. This makes us whole, makes us people of substance. Not flighty, untouched children. Then we can know the world. And when we know the world, the world is ours"
>Any accomodation recommendations?
On a 15k budget for an unlimited period of time I'd suggest to find either some shitty one-room hotel room with a broken ceiling fan or a local apartmentairbnb. Something between 500 to 1k a month.
When I was in Thailand all I cared about was prostitutes and drugs, but no matter how much I got, I still felt empty. I'm planning to go again next year
Lol
I live in hell and must move
Doubt. Get your bands up lil boi
>Get your bands up
Is this n-word slang? What?
sure just go there and see how it works out
>You could probably live on 15k for a few months.
for a few years you fricking moron. locals live with 200 dollars a month
> one-room hotel room with a broken ceiling fan or a local apartmentairbnb. Something between 500 to 1k a month.
that would be 300 dollars a month or less because hotels are expensive. very good rental rooms cost 200
You always see these type of dumbfrick know-it-all posts whenever three questions come up, but like the dumbfrick they are they fail to consider its a first timer and not somebody adjusted to living like a SEA local.
They don't even realize that the other responses are taking that into consideration and assuming as a first timer he will be blowing money left and right like a moron (he will).
some twisted fun to 10x the needed budget and post is as the truth. it's not possible to accidently waste thousands a month in a country where standards of living are poor as frick. i mentioned cheap hotel prices for white people you can find via google
15k for a few months in asia, yeah nah
He doesn't want to go there to live like an impoverished thai factory worker living 8 to a dorm room, you stupid Black person.
He wants to go there and enjoy a freedom and quality of life he isn't enjoying in his home country, which means not living in a slum 4km from thr mrt station.
Nobody said it wasn't possible to live cheaply in Thailand you shit for brain mental moron. We implied it was likely his savings won't last very long since foreigners tend to wind up spending quite a lot more than average cost of living to be happy and comfortable in Thailand.
You think this goof wants to flee one bad situation to sit in a room with no AC and stare at a wall all day just to save money? No. He wants to live, and he's going to find something that interests him and he's going to blow his money on it like 99% of westerners do their first time trying to live in SEA.
Stop giving shitting, wrong, moronic advice. Especially if you lack all empathy and common sense.
google the hotel prices in large cities moron
>just go live in a cheap hotel that isn't nearby anything and 20 minutes walk from a train station
You're a moronic homosexual. You have never lived in Thailand. Stop posting.
you are not only moronic but dishonest, the prices are freely available for all
>I'm a moron who uses AirBnB: The Post
You're paying 4x more than me imbecile
there are people who've been living out there for 2 decades now, and they do newb shit that I have never done. I don't get how they can live there that long and not accumulate better knowledge.
I guess if you get yourself used to paying the whitey tax it just seems normal. Nobody ever told them that there's another way.
You and a million other lost losers have had the same idea over the past few years and now Thailand is super saturated and prices are inflated to shit. Yes, its cheaper than the US, but 15k for any standard of living that is just the bare minimum of respectable is going to be eaten through in about two months, three at best these days, and that's with eating local Thai food every night, staying at bare bones 2 to 3 star hotels and maybe the occasional splurge on something nice like a decent restaurant or a short time service one or twice a week, pretty bare minimum. You can forget dating or meeting "normal" Thai women if you're trying to stretch out your budget for as long as possible, they will not be interested in dating a tight ass farang with a shithole room on some slum soi and they'll be wanting to do go out and do fun stuff which means even more $$$, and if youre trying to stretch your budget out you're not going to be able to afford them. You can forget the Western concept of free, no strings attached sex with women in Thailand- with Thai girls and farangs its all about the money, and they have more options now than ever before so be prepared to spend or they'll dump you like a bad habit for the next walking ATM machine.
15k in 3 months at best? are you out of fricking mind lol?
how the frick are you spending 5 grand a month ?
You can get a nice condo for like 25-30k baht, shop at big C, meal prep for the week and add on maybe a little bit more for electricity and MRT transport and that's your core costs covered.
If you're getting hookers everynight then maybe I can see it but honestly you can live pretty cheaply to a good standard there.
What are you expecting out of this trip exactly? Literally what the frick is the point of traveling half way across the world just to live in a studio apartment and go grocery shopping every night for a couple of months? What exactly are you expecting from such a trip that that is going to improve your situation versus wherever you are at currently? If you want your 15k to last 3 months or longer in Thailand youre going to have to cut back drastically on anything fun like eating out at good restaurants and partaking in night life and basically just live basic as frick, and that means your opportunities to meet women, whether they are "normal" women or prostitutes, is also going to be pretty much nil. Completely pointless.
Get your head out of the gutter
if anon really lives in hell they're not doing any of that anyway
cheap $1.50 street food will be an upgrade over burnt yet still soggy microwave pizza rolls
t. anon who has lived for $15k/yr in USA
That's a good point. I've traveled to Thailand for basically that reason before as well.
>If I spend about this much to rent a room and do this in the US then I can instead just hang out in Thailand for a while, spending about the same money, but being able to do this and this while being around such and such if I so desire or just being in an interesting area so my mind isn't rotting in this rut I'm stuck in
Just being in a different area can do you good. Some of my time in Thailand was literally just walking around and eating things, sometimes talking to people, and that still was much better than suffering in my part of America. I had better living accomodations, more interesting food, and access to more interesting personalities than I had in the shit suburbs I was accustomed to for all around the same money for that time period.
Just being in a more interesting and lively area is good for you than rotting in some matrix bubble.
This! That's why I want to move. Life is boring and the people surrounding me are shit. Friends are lame. I might as well enjoy life than spend away my savings in depression.
Trust me,
, you'll waste more money and time for an inferior product in the end. And that goes for all of Asia.
what's your basis for saying this??
It's the Asian mentality. They're the real israelites.
>this
its really the simple things readily punctuated by a delicious cheap meal. its inner-peace, its adventure on demand, and, yes, sex if so desired even if only the availability of optionality. balling out needn't be habitual and can be done reasonably often.
>Some of my time in Thailand was literally just walking around and eating things
same. riding around making impromptu stops at auntie's cart only to be blown away at what tasty morsels were on offer was a highlight.
Yeah probably, but there's no job market or any kind of upward mobility in Thailand compared to the US. Thailand is and always will be a country that exists solely to take as much money as they can from tourists and expats in exchange for trashy dopamine rushes before they find an excuse to kick them out of the country after a certain amount of time, it is not and never was meant to be a place to make money or improve your lot in life. It is a place to spend money, get your kicks in for a few weeks or a few months at most, and then return back home- and the government doesn't even try to hide that fact or sell you on anything else- for everything else, you are still better off trying to improve your lot in life back in the States, there is no opportunity in Thailand.
what mobility is there in the US?
how did you stay in romania for nine months legally? which cities in it?
Ease of access to the US stock market for starters (where you should put your $15k instead of wasting it on months worth of groceries in Thailand).
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Cluj-Napoca, and I did it illegally. Got deported at the end of my stay, but I would not trade the experience for the world.
>never was meant to be a place to make money or improve your lot in life
earn in dollars, spend in baht. i dont recall anyone recommending otherwise. obviously many farang have run profitable businesses.
stir-fry chicken with wide noodles is one of my fave Thai meals. this plate cost 40 baht at a clean
& comfy restaurant. That's 1.13 USD.
>shit food
yeah right, your $18 big mac combo is soooo much better than Thai cuisine
thai food is all oily fried crap covered in sugar and pesticides, so congratulations you've managed to climb maybe one rank higher than typical mcdonalds fast food. its cheap for a reason.
lmao at this moron
>t. frick fat who thinks thai food is healthy just because it has some green colored basil leaves sprinkled over it
you're literally eating fried noodles dripping in fricking seed oils.
Stir frying doesn't use much oil, it's considered one of the healthiest frying techniques. Fresh kale, baby corn, tender pieces of chicken breast, all good and wholesome ingredients. The wide noodles are very good at absorbing the flavor.
You should stop being so mindbroken. Restaurants in Thailand are not owned by corporations, they don't charge absurd markups to pay off bank loans, and ingredients do not come pre-packaged from Sysco or US Foods.
This delicious omelet salad cost $1.41. In America, it would run you $20 + tax + service charge + tip + requested donation to our charity of the month.
Unlike you, anon has no worries because he has nothing invested in the system. The majority of my earnings have always been discretionary spending. Only a penny saved is a penny earned. You make more than I do, but yet you have much less free cash.
God are you moronic.
He's not wrong. Stir fried noodles aren't healthy just because they were made in a pot. It's just starch covered in cooking oil with an egg on there and maybe some mystery meat.
Thai fruits do indeed have the pesticide problem he mentioned. You should soak them in water and wash at home first before consuming them.
Lots of produce has dubious sources. Most leafy greens are grown with sprayed shitwater and pesticides so washing them very carefully is a good idea also, but even then it's not enough.
Just because everyone is poor and the food is cheap doesn't mean it's automatically safe and good for you lmao. Asia in general has wildly inconsistent food production safety standards and enforcement.
Thats without even getting into morality of procurement and packaging. A shit ton of thai seafood is farmed by literal burmese slaves who they capture illegally crossing the border or living in Thailand, then they sell to shrimp farms or fishing vessels.
If you eat shrimp in Thailand it's raised and handled by slaves, probably. Don't care? Good for you, you're going native. Thais don't care either.
>But even then, it's not enough.
The average Thai life expectancy is higher than that of Poland and Hungary. Also, what were you reading? There are no slaves in shrimp farming, only illegal fishing, which is run by Indonesians in international waters.
>Thais don't care either.
No, the world generally doesn't care, the fish caught by slave laborers are sold all over the world, which is why a company like CP is among the top global markets. Same shit with the Child labor mining Coltan in Congo.
>It's cheap for a reason.
Anon doesn't understand what a currency exchange rate is. 40 baht for a typical Thai is a normal price.
Only fry dishes use oil, the only oil average Thai noodles use is garlic oil.
>There are no slaves in shrimp farming
Lmao shut the frick up homosexual you don't know shit. Ignorant piece of subhuman monkey smegma.
Maybe street vendors but I've had a remarkable amount of sit down food that was very high quality and cheap.
That dish is literally glistening from all the oil its covered in. It looks no different than the regular 50 baht Thai street food except they put it in a photograph-worthy Instagram meme bowl and charged you 10x the price for the same food you would get at a street side vendor. Sit down Thai restaurants on busy, traffic heavy streets are the worst scams of them all.
That meal was in the Iconsiam mall. It cost me $2 and had very little oil. It's "glistening" with water.
Go back to Muttmerica and enjoy your $20+tip cancerous poison. You clearly can't appreciate good things in life and just want to whine about everything.
>$20+tip
Shit like this is a big part of why I rarely eat out. Ridiculous trash.
That's all fried. Do you think Asians get a shitton of acne because that eat healthy?
So I guess Japanese and European foods are the unhealthiest?
Japanese food isnt that healthy. Its 90% starch and yes, lots of fried food as well. They just eat stupidly small child size portions.
just admit youre a ketoschizo and frick off nonce
Just admit that you've never been to Asia and seen every third person with their entire face covered in acne and know that image you posted is a meme.
>never been to Asia
moron
>carbs to protein
Brother you can easily order meat-based dishes at literally any restaurant in Thailand. I had woodfired chicken and pork balls for 150 baht just yesterday.
If you're ordering pad thai then kvetching like an unfathomable moron that there's noodles in your meal you just might have severe brain damage.
yeah, you can easily find low carb meals here.
I don't mind rice and carbs, but the ratio of carbs to protein is abysmal. An average Japanese meal is like 60% carbs, 30% fats and 10% protein. And like I said, there's lots of high calorie fats (curries, ramen broth, okonomiyaki, etc) and lots of fried foods (gyoza, croquets, tempura, takoyaki, etc). It's not that healthy at all, they just eat very little food in general and they're cities are extremely walkable so they stay active. Just because youre used to a diet of McSlop back in the US doesn't mean the majority of Japanese or Thai food is healthy either, because most of it isn't, they just eat smaller portions and don't live 3/4's of their lives sitting on their asses in cars stuck in commuter highway traffic- they walk, take trains, etc.
>It's not that healthy at all
utterly btfo
So you think being 90 and not being able to contribute to society and having to import people, is healthy.
>*diarrhea sharts over keyboard*
>"PFFFFFFFPFPFPLPFPFFLLPFFFF"
wow great argument
I guess you also don't care about the planet's health as a whole either.
>*PLAP*
It's important for you to say it out loud, for your health, that you don't know the first thing about managing systems, regardless if you had all of the facts or not.
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Lmao this rabbi just completely gave up on his original argument and just started a completely different one
>oy vey isn’t it BAD that your grandparents arent slaving away from me!! They should drop dead at 60!
Where is USA?
USA life expectancy is 79.25 years
Thais don't walk, especially outside Bangkok. Only tourists trudge the streets in the heat. Everyone rides a motorbike.
>water
>stir FRY
moron alert
moron ALERT
>paying 10 times for pad thai
That's on you if you fell for the 50-dollar pet rock tier scam.
Also, holy shit, this isn't SighSee or SighSee stop b***hing about foods when there are shitton of options. .
>Be Anon
>Anon sit down and order a food.
>There are gagillion food on the menu.
>He chose an oily food.
>Anon then complained that the food is unhealthy.
Thai vendors are called "food on order," which means you can order the vendor or the cook to use pig fat oil and not put MSG, or sugar, into your food. If you are so autistic about seed oil, carbs, or any healthy things, you can buy a cheap Thai brand of air fryer and buy only certified organic veggies at a Lotus or Big C mall. And those are still a lot cheaper than US farm products.
You can watch honest reviews from channels like Small Brained American; basically, avoid deep-fried vendors. Though I think Springroll vendors are quite safe,.
When I spent 3k a month I felt like I was balling regularly. 5k would be bordering on extravagance.
I enjoyed your snark
>balling
are you a n-word from the 00s? no one says "balling" anymore, and it was a moronic word back then
>completely missing the point of his post
cringe
I was literally just listing off the exact thing I did... hardly spent more than £1.5k a month.
Had a really nice condo. The grocery shopping was done once per week and it was delivered... I ate out occasionally for dates etc. Although Thai food tastes nice it's usually got addtional extras which aren't great to be eating every day and very oily, usually lacking micronutrients. Especially if you're eating street food shit. The portions were usually too small for me too and it makes it hard to count macros.
I'm SighSee so cooking lunch / dinner for 2 hours on a saturday morning to get enough calories for the entire week is better than having to walk to 7/11 to eat processed shite most days.
Still went out most nights, met plenty of women and the only prostitution I engaged with was a few massages every now and then. If you're a moron pay pig trying to flex in soi cowboy to the isaan dogs every night then yeah that's going to rack up.
Some people are just financially illiterate.
>I was literally just listing off the exact thing I did
aw man, literally?
>Literally
what is the meaning of this word as it's used here?
>literally
>unironically
>I'm gay
synonymous
the point of spending money in thailand is to get laid, not just to survive as cheaply as possible
thailand might be the one country where it's cheaper to hire a prostitute every night than to impress someone into doing it with you for free
financially illiterate sodomite.
two different people you're responding to. you're just an idiot who can't afford to do anything else in Thailand except rent shithole apartments and eat shit food for months on end, probably overstayed your visa too as the cherry on top.
I stayed in downtown Bangkok for a month in 3 and 4 star hotels eating out almost exclusively and drinking a moderate amount once a week for a little under 2000 dollars. The same thing can be had in some midsize city for half that. You need a therapist.
Therapists are for losers. Just go see a cute ladyboy and you'll be right as rain.
and how many years ago was this?
I just left Bangkok and the prices are easily half that in Isan.
You're not entirely wrong. A man is able to look within, and solve his own damn problems. Your degeneracy isn't doing it. Go talk to a professional, because my time is too important to be doing pro boner.
sounds about right.
$30/night for a three-star hotel.
$30/day for everything else.
now what about hotel and restaurant prices in Romania? I don't care how much it costs to live in an apartment and boil cabbage on a hot plate every night.
>thailand might be the one country where it's cheaper to hire a prostitute every night than to impress someone into doing it with you for free
is this a bot? it has obviously not been cheap for girls in thailand for YEARS. my friend couldn't get a girl there for under $150 in 2018, and I was just there in october and the cheapest I found was 80$ then my buddy went there 2 weeks after I left and said he could not get a girl for under $150. The guy is rich and didn't pay 1 girl, because frick handing someone $150 for barely doing shit.
>25
I basically want to get a good quality apartment and live a nice life by myself. Dont want to be bothered by frick heads. Cooking eating healthy going out to beaches and markets and get a remote job. I have pretty much given up on my city. Its a shit hole that wont change anytime soon. And I'm anyway spending upto 800usd a month here.
crazy guy, 15 k USD in 2 months in thailand? get a grip buddy
yeah some people actually travel half way around the world to enjoy a country, not just scrape by on a studio apartment and $2 fried rice plates for months on end, shocking I know.
>FUDding this hard
You’re definitely a fed
>Thailand is super saturated and prices are inflated to shit.
That is not true. If you go to known tourist traps like Phuket, then you will be fleeced. But Bangkok remains a very budget friendly city. I imagine other places in Thailand are even better.
Phuket sucks anyway, why would you go there unless you are russian visiting family lol
>But Bangkok remains a very budget friendly city.
Give examples. I was just there in October, and it was not only more expensive than I've ever seen it, but the prices were fricking insane, and more than I see even in the US.
It is not worth traveling to Thailand anymore. And that "passport bro" shit is moronic. I hope every single guy doing that loses every dollar they have and I hope the libtards going there get some bones broken or land a few decades in a Thai jail.
>You and a million other lost losers have had the same idea over the past few years and now Thailand is super saturated and prices are inflated to shit
This is complete fact. There is so much US dollar and Euro floating around there they don't even care to do their job. The businesses just wait for you to walk in and pay high prices to pay for them to continue to do nothing. If you think we're lying then go there and find out.
I cannot wait until I start hearing the stories where new gay ~~~passport broooos~~~ go there and b***h that it wasn't at all what people described.
No you should give us examples, I know you're the same gay spamming every general that Japan is cheaper than Thailand. We all know prices have increased across the world since covid (which nobody likes), so I don't want to hear the fricking shit arguments about how much cheaper it was 10 years ago.. so give us examples of prices that shocked you so much compared to other countries
Why is this guy lying so much? Prove any of what you said gay.
In the smaller cities of Laos, you can get relatively luxurious accomodations for $10-15 a night. If buy local food in the markets, Laos is very cheap right now. If you want to stretch a buck, it's a good place to go. I don't think $15k would last long in Thailand.
Go to literally any place besides Bangkok and Pattaya and $15k will last you for more than a year
Can you even speak Thai?
I'm doing the same thing OP. I'm autistic as frick so I've done nothing but research this shit for three months.
Nomadhub and numbeo both show that Da Nang or Nha Trang in Vietnam are the very best spots. Cheap apartments. Cheap hotels. Best bang for your buck. After that is Chiang Mai Thailand but it's smoky season so the air is literally the worst in the world until Songkran in Mid-May (yeah I'm thinking about Mid-May, hahaha).
Bangkok is also good value and all around #1 but it will be about double the cost. 'Nam looks like you could do well with $500/mo Bangkok is AT LEAST 1k.
Go on the local apartment websites and facebook marketplace/groups. AirBNB is for absolute suckers and you'll pay 3x as much.
Another place I found would be most cities in Japan outside of Tokyo. The Yen is super weak right now so the living expenses are actually on-par with SEA kek. Use Gaijinhub because most landlords won't rent to foreigners because they're super racist.
Me? I'm doing Bangkok first. Hope I see you there OP
If I would advise one thing, it's to avoid any sites/posts catered towards expats or digital nomads. Sometimes, the local real estate agent has the best deals, even if they rip 50$ extra on commissions
Useful! Thanks! Share some more eh. I'll avoid Japan for now. They seem very depressed. I need sunny lively places with people half naked most of the time. you staying in apartment or hostel?
So many morons here who know absolutely nothing.
Go on the tourist visa and stay in a hostel, then enroll in language school and find an agent to get you a good apartment for like 400 a month. Gets more complicated once the language school visa is over.
>15k
pah-hahahaha I earn 4 times that in a year. If that's all you have to your name, you got other things to worry about than traveling to Thailand. But in all seriousness, 15k can easily let you live a Thai middle class level lifestyle for about a year before you need to return home and work at McDonald's.
Is this homie really flexing 60K a year? My mom is fricking a server at a BBQ restaurant and makes 100 LOL
Thanks for validating my non-tipping policy.
>Is this homie really flexing 60K a year? My mom is fricking a server at a BBQ restaurant and makes 100 LOL
of course some loser comes in here trying to scoff at 60k....... 60k is un-scoffable. it does not matter what you think from any perspective other than some mentally ill perspective (and therefore your opinion is invalid and easily discarded). this happens every time in these threads. if he said 150k some gay would come in here "OMG WHAT AHAHAHAHA U THNK 150 is high derrrrrrrr'
the frick is even the point in talking like this? what do you think you're doing?
>My mom is fricking a server at a BBQ restaurant and makes 100 LOL
did your mom not tell you she's actually a prostitute or are you just covering for her.
and no she doesn't make 100k. people always come up with these insane stories, and i've never seen one of them backed up IRL - zero times.
>fricking
>server
>100k
>these insane stories
It's called tip inflation bro. Servers now make more than dentists, because dentists don't get tip.
His mom is a hooker AND she doesnt make 100
Not sure vietnam would be better. Isnt it dirtier? Thailand seems more developed. How do you stay longer than tourist visas allow?
all places in asia are dirty.
how are you this moronic? see, this is why asia should stay dirty. we don't need these kinds of people going there.
sparrows hopping around in the food prep area
dishes washed in a bucket over the gutter in the alley
makes me shit like a bird...wet, loose and sudden
>his immune system hasn't adapted to SEA filth yet
I want to visit those beautiful islands too. I dont believe they are real unless I see it for myself.
>posts some random screenshot of an obscure app nobody has ever even heard of
>all written in thai, not even available or accessible for tourists
>DOOD THIS IS TOTALLY THE NORM
at least post the name whatever fricking mystery app this is or frick off. these are nowhere near the prices the average tourist is going to find in places like Bangkok or Pattaya.
Wasn't it established before that TTT was their premier paypig? Of course he's been overpaying.
>100% inflation is totally reasonable because X is still cheaper in Thailand than back at home
this is both why you're poor and why inflation is running rampant in Thailand despite quality being shittier.
What are you paying or have recently payed?
Will I get a ticket if I run shirtless in a park? In Bangkok or another park in another province?
You'll get cooties from all the girls. And cancer from the sun too.
It's acceptable for men to be shirtless in public in Thailand, but rarely seen outside the slums.
>15k savings
You will be out of money in 6 months, max.
A/C units in Kanchanaburi guesthouses are pitifully underpowered. Been running mine for over two hours, and it is still about 86 degrees in the room. $18/night to stay here.
check 'everything pattaya' on youtube, he goes around showing condos with prices, also he has video how much it costs to live in thailand
if Thailand is so overvisited, why am I the only foreigner in downtown Kanchanaburi?
tomorrow I think I'll head deep into the province, as far as Songkhla Buri.
high temps up to 106 F forecast, but it cools off to the high 80s after sunset
dank weed 280 baht per gram here
>cools off to the high 80s after sunset
Mother of god
man I'm flying out this weekend and not really excited about the heat
Drink water, exercise, and the human body will acclimate.
Ok troony patrol settle down.
How are you not worried about some local somchais beating your ass because you’re a farang in their turf?
It boggles my mind how you guys are willing to just go to random provinces and not be worried some drunk farmer off yaba sleep deprived and in a state of psychosis just decides
>farang bad
And hacks you up with a machete
It's a lot more chill than that. This is rural Thailand, not rural Mexico. Lots of pickup trucks, a fair bit of beer drinking, but no circus music and no cartel henchmen. Kanchanaburi province is very welcoming to visitors. A bunch of schoolgirls on the train would wave at every group of tourists they saw. Everyone has been glad to do business. Taxi truck drivers are very insistent and don't seem trustworthy, though. So far I have refused their services and stayed near railway stations.
>Drink beer, lay around all day, and the human body will acclimate.
fixed it
see above
>Taxi truck drivers are very insistent and don't seem trustworthy
Is the implication here that you’ll get ripped off or more sinister?
I’ve just been in several very hair raising situations because I decided to go off the reservation. Speaking Thai is why I think I got through the situations unharmed, but every time I’ve “gone local” I’ve encountered some very feral and unsettling Thai men.
>full face tats
>leering eye contact
>paperthin smiles
I speak Thai and I think for whatever reason that puts them at ease but I felt like I was a prey animal and they were waiting for some kind of generic foreigner cultural faux pas that could be used as an excuse to get violent. I don’t think this suddenly goes away in isaan.
Thais are xenophobic
>Thais are xenophobic
did you:
1) refuse an invitation
2) resist the unfamiliar
3) fail to be polite
4) overstay your welcome
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Cute to link the beach, but no I didn’t. Im Thai as frick around Thais. Super concerned with face, consideration for others face etc, but to somchais that just makes them a benevolent predator who doesn’t set the trap for you but waits for you to unwittingly blunder into the trap.
>Super concerned with face, consideration for others face etc,
Could you explain a little bit how this works? Is it just a matter of being polite and respectful or are there some culture-specific things in play?
Read “inside Thai society” by Niels mulder. There’s no way I’m gonna be able to answer that question without writing an essay. The TDLR is that Asians have a heightened sense of awareness for, and consideration of, not disturbing each others social reputation. Especially in a social setting where other people can bear witness to it.
White people used to be the same way. Being a well-mannered gentleman was extremely important if you wanted to get anywhere in life.
But the Asian mind is hyper-protective of status and strongly averse to criticism, while American whites are much more dynamically competitive and open-minded when it comes to constructive criticism or ideas for improvement.
Yes that’s a good way of putting it. Asians have a pathetic, infantile, unexamined, and underdeveloped self, so there is “nothing” beyond the physical and readily perceptive manifestations of their identity such as their hierarchical position at a job or their literal physical appearance. It’s scary to think about. They’re literally a mask that is concealing a dangerous void
I had this bathroom attendant suddenly do that wide eyed but still poker face look of surprise (when you insult Asians) because I handed him a 10 baht coin after he massaged my shoulders at the urinal. He followed me with his gaze all the way to when I walked out the door so I knew I fricked up somehwere. I came back and handed him a 20 baht note when I came in to pee later that night and explained briefly “I’m still learning thai culture” (in Thai) and that smoothed it over. If I had just ignored it he probably would’ve snapped my neck or stabbed me when I went back in the bathroom.
This was in lad prao by the way. Random ghetto Thai club I was dragged to by a Korean illegal immigrant tomboy. My advice is stay on the reservation because Everytime I leave the reservation these dicey situations pop up
You have the weirdest fricking stories.
I don't understand shit about Thailand. Or you're completely off your rocker.
You aren't supposed to pay those dickwatchers anything. He was surprised because you gave him something.
He's probably American.
He can't take a shit without paying the water company a tip
>Yes that’s a good way of putting it. Asians have a pathetic, infantile, unexamined, and underdeveloped self, so there is “nothing” beyond the physical and readily perceptive manifestations of their identity such as their hierarchical position at a job or their literal physical appearance. It’s scary to think about. They’re literally a mask that is concealing a dangerous void
Incredibly accurate. A lot of the dorks ITT are going to learn this the hard way.
>so there is “nothing” beyond the physical and readily perceptive manifestations of their identity such as their hierarchical position at a job or their literal physical appearance
perhaps, when lacking social mobility, class or looks are a life or death difference; if not for the individual, then perhaps for the dependent family.
idk anon, could it be that you need a break from thailand? cant walk around acting like a hard case and not get some pushback...do you know what i am saying?
>perhaps, when lacking social mobility, class or looks are a life or death difference; if not for the individual, then perhaps for the dependent family.
That’s actually a really good point anon. Never thought about it that way
What provinces did you visit? I was in northern Mexico when all the cartel members who lived in America returned to visit their families in Mexico. Texas plates ruled the streets. You know most of them brought guns down into Mexico with them.
Not sure anywhere in Thailand comes close to the situation a couple hours' drive from Texas.
And no, I don't chit chat with gangbangers even if I speak their language. Made the mistake of trying my new Spanish skills on some corrupt Mexican municipal cops who pulled me over on a mountain road and were convinced they could extort me on some charge or another. After I was cleared, they showed me pictures of their friends harvesting the peyote, making clear that they were merely protecting the official operation from freelancers. Then they demanded $20 for the hassle. I refused, he insisted, I refused, defused with distracting conversation, he yelled "adelante" and drove off. next time I passed them on the same highway, they turned on their four-ways and waved at me. they never found out where I had been for the two days.
Rayones, Nuevo Leon
my explanations are
>gangbanger visiting grandma
or
>meth labs in town
in Khon Kaen, I encountered some potentially violent nutcases living on the street. Old people too, dumped on the roadside outside the train station.
everywhere i've ever been in rural mexico has been pretty chill tbh
well said, anon, well said
about 15 or 20 street dogs harassed me as I walked through Nam Tok village at 10 PM. so much for enjoying the rural life, I'm heading back to the city tomorrow
He's right about the music though.
>"Spanish people have the worst taste in music. They have no depth." - Howard Stern.
taxi drivers in Nam Tok talked shit as I carried my duffel to the railway station after one night in a local homestay. 700 THB room, 70 THB beer, 170 THB food. Despite all the paying, they still wanted me gone.
the train back to Bangkok cost 2.3 cents per mile for foreigners...0.59 USD 1/100 cents per mile for Thais. No A/C. Temps as high as 41 C in the river valley. Bangkok's 33 C humidity felt like air conditioning, no joke.
I saw an old guy in Nam Tok push the face of an youngster who got up in his face insisting on selling him food at the train station benches. Seems foreigners are not the only ones getting harassed by aggressive sellers up here.
An old lady spilled some shoeshine juice on the floor of the train car, dipped her plastic sandals in it, then a guy across the aisle from her gave her a huge wad of napkins. she wiped the reeking solvent up and tossed the napkins out the window as the train rode on.
A foreigner's adopted cat meowed incessantly through the whole ride.
The last stretch of the ride into Thonburi passed through slum housing which was Philippines tier. Built on swamps, motorcycle paths crossing the tracks, structures within inches of the train.
The first time I visited Thailand, I swore this place was not Third World. Now, coming from Malaysia, Thailand feels like a step down. Rooms are always superior, however. And I prefer the Thai flavors to the Malay cuisine.
Weed LMAO
This guy's b***hy posts are really funny.
He complains about nobody being happy to see him or deal with him...
Well of course they aren't. You're a miserable, b***hy c**t. They want you gone because you're a sad sack.
If you hate traveling so much then don't do it, moron.
If they like you. I feel conflicted about doing it though. Seems probably a little gross knowing what they do.
It's so fricking over, my shitty aging white facial skin can't compete with feminine K Pop pretty boys' skincare regimens, why did I have to discover the SEAmaxxing pill at 29 instead of 20 when I was a pretty boy stud with perfect skin...
Hey that's life. I found southeast asia at age 20 but was too much of a mess and too inexperienced in the world to realize what I had in front of me.
Just forget women in general and find something you personally enjoy doing that brings you greater fulfillment in life, preferably something that will either make you money or make you make better decisions with your money. If you asked me in 2012 I would've cringed, but in 2024 MGTOW is 100% right. I am finding far more enjoyment and fulfillment learning about things like Finance and AI than I ever did wasting time messing around with women- American, Thai or otherwise. They are all the same no matter where in the world you are, just cloaked in different illusory disguises. The Passport Bro movement is a completely monetized, profit motivated grift trying to sell you something that hasn't existed for years now, they're all scammers just like the overseas "trad" women that they promote.
Good for you if you can keep your mind occupied and happy without chasing women.
I wouldn't call expatriation a grift by nature. But Asian women becoming more aware of their desirability to foreign men has socially and financially empowered them a lot. Especially the younger generations.
Still, if dating women of the Asian race is what gives meaning to your life, go for it. Have fun, spend money, whatever. Don't let sexless males pull you back into the crab bucket of misery. But don't brag about how much money you wasted on prostitutes either, like the "$10,000 in two months" anon.
>Asian women becoming more aware of their desirability to foreign men has socially and financially empowered them a lot.
I'd say more than just "alot", they've become complete and total snobby narcissists now, and addicted to social media even more than the West. Too many simps online coupled with the Passport Bro bullshit totally killed meeting women overseas. I mean it was always a con in one or another, whether it was being duped into taking care of the girls family, or paying sponsorship, or paying sin sod for the wedding, or for being forced by the Thai government to sign any property you buy over to your Thai wife, etc etc. It's always been somewhat of a scam, but at least men felt like they got something out of it back then... but now? Forget it. You just got all the cons of the Thai dating/family culture with none of the benefits. These girls aren't even playing the "Long Game" with "Girlfriend Experience" anymore, now its just "give me as much money/presents as you can and frick off" in between milking simps from overseas for even more money or validation online. Not even white women have the game on that much of an easy mode in 2024, Thai women are placed on a whole different pedestal these days and it shows.
Arr you studying machine learning for potential future employment?
Frick off kim, retinol exists
>retinol
>yeah bro just lather stuff that increases UV absorption and damage to a ridiculous degree in a tropical country haha
This is pure white boy cope, face it, Koreans are superior genetically and will be the master race in the Fourth Turning
I guess if we're all gonna live in a zoo you'd be right. But besides, can you really say someone is genetically superior, if they have to obsess over something, which is not healthy. Who gives a shit if you skin is pale or dark. Asians need to get over this shit, yesterday. I've met so many women that talked in a depressive tone because they're skin is mocha. It was healthy and beautiful, but your stupid way of thinking made these women sad: https://youtu.be/g2gy1Evb1Kg?feature=shared
>Koreans are superior genetically
Thier natural superiority must explain why their country is #1 in the world for male plastic surgery and use of cosmetics.
So lift and frick the k pop boys.
moron, Just take care of yourself. Even SEA woman tend to prefer somewhat older men, Not old ass boomers tho. At that point it's really over.
Two weeks in Bangkok and Kanchanaburi cost me 11305 THB, or 317 USD...not including beer and weed.
Next two weeks: Lop Buri - Phitsanulok - Chiang Mai.
Some kids running a roadside eatery last night didn't want to do business with a foreigner, particularly a grumpy and solitary one. It's best to get up and walk away once it becomes clear that your presence is not welcomed (as opposed to staff being merely backlogged). But I persisted, so I got a lousy meal, an overcharge, and snarky comments in Thai which made the other diners chuckle. I paid the menu price and did not react to the clowning around.
Damn are people really this c**ty?
Are you ugly or mean looking? Did you say hello and smile and wave to people?
This is precisely PRECISELY why I stay in the farang ghettos.
Even though this kind of feral, petulant little shit attitude comes from a place of inferiority, it’ll leave even a rational person steaming mad for the rest of the day.
One time a rat skittered by my feet in this shitty restaurant I went to and I leaped up very animatedly (understandably so, it’s a fricking rat and I don’t want to get bitten = literal instinct). The waiter laughs and then as he walks away I hear him say “fricking dumb foreigner”
I’ve had kids mock me for incorrectly pronouncing “two,” (for lack of tonality) when ordering a quantity of a fruit. Oh OK somchai have fun DIRT POOR until you’re dead you little homosexual.
Let these ugly brown peasant be poor and grumpy and rot in their dogshit shanty towns in the middle of nowhere. It’s over and never began and never will even in the next rebirth for these bottom feeders
I’d end up giving the Thai govt a reason to completely ban foreigners if I had to live in, say, kohn kaen, and listen to these little ferrets act like surly school children towards me Scot free day in and out.
>fell for the 2k baht "boat tour" scam
its over
surely you aren't talking about the rate which is per half hour, but you neglected to hop off after your half hour was up, and then b***hed about paying extra?
>tfw the scammer is on SighSee with me right now
bro you already got the money leave me alone
and no i dont want your "armani" suits
I refused to go inside the attractions, told the tour guide to give me a tour with 30 seconds at each point, verified the start time, then hopped off when my time was up.
Manila Intramuros electric tricycle guide, he was a fricking butthole to other people because he thought that was what I wanted to see
>don't be a b***h
if you are going to pay the amount demanded, then pay it after appropriate hesitation, but without making a scene
if you are going to pay a different amount, make your refusal plain, then wait for the counteroffer
scammers are always going to talk shit when they fail
I paid 60 baht for laundry, which included 40 baht for a dryer, but they line dried my clothes.
They lost one of my socks, and left my mini blanket in the sun drying area.
When I notified them about the missing sock, I noticed the blanket, so of course it was returned to me. Then the sock was retrieved.
Thai zoomers suck. The elders are based.
God do I hate this shithole. The level of English is absolutely atrocious for a country so reliant on tourism.
>ask for Thai tea with no ice
>"ice Thai tea?"
>no. Thai tea no ice
>"no Thai tea?"
>yes I want it just don't give me ice
>"ice Thai tea?"
>had enough of her shit and proceed to just walk out of the shop
This is just one example. I have many more and have actually seen other tourists experience the same shit as me. I never want to return to this shithole full of brainlets.
She was doing you a favor. That shit has so much sweetener in it it's undrinkable unless ice cold.
>There are thousands of rich people who make (and spend) $4000+ a month in Bangkok
Millions can be spent in any village.
How is it not possible for you to just lie? I never understood this.
>my resume has gaps in it what do I do?
>im going to Thailand to do nefarious things, what do I do?
You fricking lie. I told my parents I was going to teach English. I never taught a single class.
When girls ask me what my plans are on the weekend I say it’s my friends birthday and we’re going to “x” (I don’t have friends or a life to speak of)
Cause I'm not good at lying.
>oh hey anon, how was your trip?!
>it was great, thailand is such a cool country 🙂
>what did you do? do you have any pictures?
>oh uhh...went to some temples and drove around on bikes. No i don't have pictures.
>oh...cool...
I actually have a good relationship with my family, so I don't enjoy lying to them and am therefore not good at it. they'll see through my shit and be even more disappointed than they are now.
Oddly enough that makes me relieved I don’t have a good relationship with my family.
There are nice modern trains in Thailand, but they are always booked up days in advance. Third class is so cheap, my last ride cost 0.0057 USD per km. It's surprising how many stops have no reservable tourist accomodation nearby. Belies the myth that Thailand is overrun with foreigners and tourists.
>always booked up days in advance
>not overrun with foreigners and tourists
youre a fricking idiot, just shut up
Have you considered that locals travel on trains. It's dirt cheap. You can go 3rd class sitting in nonsleeper from Laos border to Bangkok for 200 baht.
Have you considered that both Thai Airways and Bangkok Airways, and even Thai 7/11's, have just posted record profits during the past quarter? Do you think that this is due to local Thais as well, idiot?
Have you considered that there are more Thai people than ever before with more disposable income.
This reality secretly makes me so angry. I wanna stamp my feet and hold up my hand in a “stop” gesture and scream NO YOU NEED ME YOU WANT ME YOU NEED ME BABY. I want jbw to never die and wherever it dies I’ll crawl to where it’s still alive. There’s no way I’m gonna genuinely do battle in a sweltering global racial jungle with machismos from Central America and apes from America
How’s the quality tho?
two half gram joints for 60 apiece, smooth burn and dreamy groove
Glad to hear that
Watch YouTube videos about it lmao
You’re in the wrong country
useless turdposter.
90% of interior Thailand is virtually unvisited. the hotels are scattered far from bus terminals and don't even have Romanized names, they are for Thai car travelers only.
weed shop in Lop Buri
>don't drink alcohol
>don't smoke cigs or weed
>don't take psychadelics of any kind
>not interested in losing my virginity with a prostitute
What can I do in thailand?
explore the mountains, if you can handle hiking in the heat and hazy air
ride the train
lay around your room all day shitposting, only emerging to eat and wander the nighttime streets
try to make local friends
go to Malaysia
>lay around your room all day shitposting
my latest hobby is antagonizing Americans on /misc/
I either point out how shitty America is compared to Asia or I pretend to be Asian and call them losers for their failure in Vietnam
it's very funny
Make sure to make fun of their fat wives too
>he doesn't know that 96% of SighSee is bots
I was aware of that when they were becoming a major thing around 2019.
Since the vaxxpocalypse it doesn't really matter tho. Most people are bots now anyways
So what's it like chatting with bots all day in order to feel alive.
what can I say?
I hate the Antichrist and hope the entire planet is engulfed in flames for allowing your existence.
You forgot one thing chud, my family's name is a form of water in every language around the world, but in my father's tongue: saint; I'm the rainmaker.
>NOOO how DARE you say anything bad about the heckin nipperinos!!!
Kek every time.
>head into random back alley in Bangkok
>find a general store
>lady sells me a knife for 40 baht
>literally sharper than my $60 Wusthof knife, could cut through steel
>later use it to cut through the most delicious mango I've ever eaten
I'm starting to develop an inferiority complex towards these Asians. My whole life I believed whitey to be kind of this world yet they just keep outdoing us in every way.
$9.62 per night to book this room at Kraiseng Place in Phitsanulok. It's very clean and well-furnished. Walking distance from the train station. The catch? It's next to a highway bridge outside. Cost me $2.18 to get here from Bangkok.
nice
you are not living if you can't smoke weed on the balcony and then see the sun set
>weed
Shut the frick up reddit. So glad Thailand is making this shit illegal again this year, it has attracted the absolute worst type of tourist. Good fricking riddance.
botposter has to namedrop reddit every time weed is mentioned in the Thailand general
buy an ad, loser
>thinks weed is still cool like its the year fricking 2005
>calling others "bots"
So me and my misses are going for 10 days excluding travel days. What are some recommendations for must do's whilst there. We have flights booked but no plans yet. We're flying out early April.
Why do you people always ask shit without telling us where you're going?
Think he's going to Thailand mate
How much are decent quality meals( chicken/meat, carsb, veggies, no seed oil, tea or water) and bike taxi in bangkok ?
>seed oil
ketoschizo detected
If you want a nice place that has almost no foreign tourists but still has nice tourist infrastructure (for locals) try Chiang Khan on the Mekong up north.
Most of central Phitsanulok is grimy small industry and shuttered shops around the big market. Tough to find a restaurant. By 10 PM, most streets are deserted, but daytime traffic is hectic. Phitsanulok is a sprawling city though, so maybe there are nicer areas more conducive to foreign visitors. But I'm moving on to Uttaradit...
Based travel poster
Anything cool you found or it looks pretty bare?
>Foreigners in Thailand can expect increased scrutiny from the authorities in the wake of several high-profile criminal cases. Khaosod English reports that police have been issued new instructions to strictly enforce immigration laws.
>Following two separate assault cases involving Swiss nationals, and the more recent case of two New Zealanders allegedly assaulting a Phuket police officer, the authorities are promising to ‘get tough’.
>Newly-issued instructions include…
>All foreigners entering and leaving the kingdom to be strictly screened. Enhanced screening will also apply to those seeking extensions of stay, visa stamps, and any change in visa status.
>All crimes committed by foreigners to be investigated and prosecuted, including violations of the Immigration Act, the Alien Employment Act, the Entertainment Places Act, illegal business operations, nominee arrangements where Thai nationals own shares or real estate on behalf of foreigners to avoid legal compliance.
Kek it's over for white boys
I was looking for these cases and found three Swiss ones instead of two. What the frick is wrong with the Swiss?
https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2024/01/29/swiss-husband-confesses-to-killing-his-thai-wife-in-korat/
https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/general/40036150
https://www.khaosodenglish.com/featured/2024/02/29/thai-doctor-sues-swiss-villa-owner-in-phuket-for-kicking-her/
https://www.thaipbsworld.com/two-new-zealanders-arrested-for-assault-on-police-in-phuket/
There is an increasing amount of crime across all foreigners picking fights with Thais, not just the Swiss. Another more recent one happened with a Russian woman kicking a Thai woman in the groin. My theory is is that Thai attitudes and scams have gotten worse this past year or two and long-stay foreigners are starting to reach a breaking point. A tourist on a two week holiday like most of the delusional idiots here ITT is whatever, but dealing with this crap day and day out for months or years on end in a place you are trying to make your home is probably starting to piss a lot of people off. People can only deal with so much snooty behavior, bad service and up-charging scams every day before they start reaching their breaking point. Not to excuse the behavior of the bad foreigners, but this surge in aggressive behavior towards Thai's does appear to coincide with an awful trip I had to Thailand a few months ago, by the time my visa was finished I was pretty much ready to go home... I noticed things have deteriorated in Thailand big time these past few years, and going by these recent stories things will continue to deteriorate even further.
I've had a shit time abroad once or twice and I've never resorted to assaulting anybody. I think part of the problem is that Thailand both attracts and accepts all the trash of the earth. It sounds to me like these Swiss frickers are older and on retirement/marriage visas. Only the New Zealanders and Russian really fit the profile of the kind of farang who will actually be punished as a result of this wave of moronation.
And do you have legitimate proof that they started it, or than the Thai ran media's narrative.
>or
other
It doesn't really matter. You could be 100% right but you put yourself in a position where the Thai person reigns supreme over you. If you ever forget that you are completely delusional.
You're completely delusional if you forgot the "Thai" Army seized power from the pacifist Buddhist Thai people.
Not only that but the king and his private army can step in any time and just play political 52 card pickup if the “democratically elected” government fricks up
>I've had a shit time abroad once or twice and I've never resorted to assaulting anybody
Yeah as a tourist. See above.
>I think part of the problem is that Thailand both attracts and accepts all the trash of the earth.
Lame bullshit excuse. Thailand has taken in trashier tourists for decades now, and it used be far WORSE. Thailand is like Bali now compared to what it was 20-30 years ago. There was still never a surge of violent crimes committed against locals or police officers in such a short amount of time back then, and never an official notice put out by police and immigration to scrutinize foreigners more closely. It's simply people who have invested a lot of money into making Thailand their home are getting sick of Thailand's bullshit since COVID- 100% "inflation" price increases, constant upcharging, shitty visas and 90 day check-ins, shitty and snooty attitudes from the locals, double taxing of foreign income, constant rule changes regarding visa requirements, and so much more. It's almost like people who contribute so much to GDP over such a long period of time don't like being treated like second class citizens every single day. Who woulda thought?
>passportbro expects to be treated as a first class citizen as a foreigner
lmao
If I was going to shell out the amount of money it now takes obtain a 5 fricking year "Elite" tourist visa (with Elite Visa prices raised up 50%-150% YOY now) in a developing country, yeah, you bet your fricking ass I'd at least expect to be treated with some half-way decency. Sorry you're a loser that has no boundaries or standards set for yourself and you let uneducated third world losers walk all over you like a doormat. Must suck to suck.
It's Thailand not Farangland bro. It says right there in the name what you are signing up for.
>t. someone who would never go there
Thailand would be Myanmar-tier if it wasn't for Farang tourists.
Thailand is much more industrialized than Burma.
Personally I didn't like Phitsanulok. Khon Kaen is superior.
Sila At is a "suburban" train stop for Uttaradit. People here were very welcoming to a white foreigner who walked off the train lugging a duffel bag. Motorbikes saying "bendiha" and giving a thumbs up in passing. It seems they are trying to develop the area as a tourist rest stop. Sadly, the back street weed shop here appears to have been shut down shortly after it opened. Only one franchise is officially allowed to sell weed in Uttaradit.
I'd like to hire a driver to take me over the Phu Phaya Pho pass. But I have such an aversion to hired transport. The subservience of the passenger to his driver. The possibility of unreasonable payments being demanded. Last time I hired a taxi I had to wait 45 minutes, even with the hotelkeeper hounding the dispatcher with multiple calls. Good thing I decided to check out 1 1/2 hours before my bus was leaving. Frick the city planners who put bus stations 8 km out of town on the bypass. You KNOW they get bribes from the taxi union.
>Thailand is much more industrialized than Burma.
What part of "Thailand would be Myanmar-tier if it wasn't for Farangs" did you not understand? Capital to fund and build up that industrialization came from someone else, Thai's just didn't make it by magically growing it out of the fricking ground.
>Thai's just didn't make it by magically growing it out of the fricking ground.
NTA, but actually Thailand has always been an agricultural powerhouse. Go to any Asian grocery store and you'll see most of the food comes from Thailand. They've always been huge exporter of stuff that "magically grew out of the ground."
Myanmar has that potential and used to be a major exporter of rice, (and they even have petrol, which Thailand doens't have) but they have political problems that are insurmountable.
And who buys that rice from overseas that allows Thailand to export it for a profit? Foreigners. Thailand has not ever fricking done a single thing on their own to get where they are today without the help of outsiders spending money on them, whether its for their rice or for their prostitutes or for their Durian fruit, all that money is coming in to the country from people outside the country.
>but they have political problems that are insurmountable.
Yes, exactly, Myanmar's political issues has cut off the foreign money gravy train that Thailand has taken advantage of for decades to make it so successful in comparison. If Thailand upsets foreigners somehow, or goes through a political crisis like its neighbor (which has been looking more and more likely with each past election cycle) upsetting investor confidence, and/or somehow forces foreigners to take their money elsewhere, it will end up just like its neighbor Myanmar. There is nothing otherwise anything special about Thailand or the Thai people in comparison to Myanmar. The only difference between the two is how much money one country siphoned off from foreigner spenders/investors vs the other.
Shit happens all the time, but 99% of it never makes it to a local TV report, let alone English-language online news sites.
>dealing with this crap day in and day out for months
Why the hell would you choose to settle down someplace foreign if you are unwilling to adapt to the local way of life and cultivate decent business relationships with your neighbors?
Chinese are now allowed to enter Thailand visa-free. Makes sense that they would step up their level of scrutiny at this time.
Spoiled millionaire brats think Thailand is Mexico, hand a cop 500 baht and he'll fist-bump you with an "adelante"
>"the cop was trying to kill us"
yep, cops usually try to kill people who attack them
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/thailand-new-zealand-tourists-arrest-visa-phuket-b2514858.html
>Immigration authorities banned brothers Hamish Day, 36, and Oscar Day, 38, from ever returning to Thailand. Thai news outlet Bangkok Post reported that the brothers have been charged with offences including robbery, causing physical harm to an on-duty officer, attempted bribery, and driving a motorcycle without a licence.
>Police said traffic officer Somsak Noo-iat on Saturday spotted the men speeding on their motorbikes. They tried to speed away after Mr Somsak tried to stop them.
>They went on to offer a bribe to the officer, who tried to film the two men on his phone. After this, the brothers allegedly wrestled Mr Somsak to the ground and took his gun.
“Police said traffic officer Somsak Noo-iat on Saturday spotted the men speeding on their motorbikes. They tried to speed away after Mr Somsak tried to stop them.
>They went on to offer a bribe to the officer, who tried to film the two men on his phone. After this, the brothers allegedly wrestled Mr Somsak to the ground and took his gun.”
>believing.this. fricking. story.
Sucks for them though. I would probably kill myself if I was banned from Thailand for life
as a pedestrian, I say,
frick outlaw motorbike riders who think they can do whatever the hell they want
IDC if they are foreigners or Thais
about damn time a traffic cop laid down the law
I was under the impression there wasn't traffic cops.
Nobody is forcing them to go to Thailand. You’re fricking with a nation that was never colonized by the white man. No, Thais won’t bend over backwards for you because you’re muh white and have money. Go back to your shithole home passportgay.
I already left Thailand you fricking illiterate idiot.
Yeah, just completely forget that America stopped the Communist domino from coming to affect.
The Swiss dude illegally built his house into a public zone, then kicked a Thai woman, and it turns out he scammed the Animal Conservation Movement for years by pretending to open an elephant reservoir only to loan elephants from owners and collect funding from the movement.
I don't think you or any Chuds on the internet ever understand that the First World has become peaceful and better because they export their worst kind of people to the Third World. The same is true for the plastic garbage.
>Helping
It calls trading you dumb dumb. Are you going to be mad at Venice and Singapore for doing the same?
Trolling isn't allowed outside of /b/.
>It calls trading you dumb dumb.
Yes, it is a part of global trade, no shit sherlock. What point exactly are you trying to make with this low effort, double digit IQ post, moron?
The point is that you are complaining that Thais did not notice on their own, which is bullshit. Consider that they trade with others and are not just begging others to do sh*t for them. Also, Thais created famous things like Red Bull and Sri Racha.
Saying shit like how Burma would have been the same with Thailand had it didn't have a civil war is like saying that Haiti would have been on the same level as Singapore if it didn't have a gang war. Because Burmaese have a different culture, world view, and attitude toward the concept of a nation since many are still at heart a tribalistic people, the thought of opening something like a troony clinic or Miss Tiffany is impossible in Burma. Burma is also a very diverse country with a shit ton of non-integrated ethnic groups, unlike Thailand.
The actual problem here is that the new type of Farang, aka Russians, moved in and instead set up their own services and businesses, independent from the locals, which makes Phuket basically a turf war zone. The anti-Farang news, which is done by shitright, is meant to aim at Americans and the West, so stupid Thais would ignore the real problem like the Chinese and Russians. Thankfully, nobody gives a damn about media.
That's what they should be worried about, and not Thai men brutally murdering women on the streets that I watched on the news the other day.
>BANGKOK (NNT) - The Thai government has made it a priority to tackle the notable rise in criminal activities by foreigners, which has negatively impacted the nation's tourism reputation.
>In response, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin has instructed the Royal Thai Police (RTP) to devise strategies and enforce measures to surveil and apprehend foreign lawbreakers.
>The RTP recently convened meetings to strategize and execute initiatives against foreign offenders, with a focus on the Phuket Provincial Police Region.
>Since October 1st, 2023, police efforts have led to 614 arrests for a variety of crimes, including illegal employment and offenses related to sex.
>Addressing crimes committed by foreigners is of paramount importance to the Royal Thai Police, with significant cases being referred to the Immigration Bureau for potential visa cancellation.
>Furthermore, comprehensive operations have been launched to eradicate such criminal activities, aiming to refurbish the tourism sector's image and bolster the security perception among visitors.
these incident aren't on the "increase" I would say. similiar things have happened in past years, but I would certainly say the thai media is definitely and specifically honing in on farang crime cases these past couple weeks with vengeance, trying very hard and deliberately to make it seem like more of problem than it really is. very obviously trying to push some xenophobic and anti-farang agenda, the reason why though still remains to be seen. that being said i agree that relations between thais and farangs will continue to get worse as a result of this.
Because Chinese tourist are deathly afraid of Thailand. You now know who the "Thai" Army works for.
One the Kiwi brothers can be heard on video during the incident claiming that the police officer "was trying to kill us". This could very well be a self-defense situation against a typical arrogant and corrupt Thai police officer that tried to bite off more than he could chew, as the brothers were specifically trying to remove and take away the gun from the Thai police officer. That wouldn't be too far from reality at all in a place like Thailand. The brothers have just put out a statemen still boldly denying all charges brought against them. This incident does indeed reek of all the right combination of Thai corruption, arrogance, nationalism and face-saving bullshit if you ask me. That beta b***h, mask wearing, Boomer loser of a Thai police officer tried it on with the wrong ones, and if what the Kiwi brothers are saying is true then I'm glad that POS got his ass whooped and embarrassed on camera in front everyone, probably lost major face. Hopefully the truth will come to light soon, if I'm wrong I'll retract my statement, but knowing what I know about Thailand I can definitely very much see the possibility in what the Kiwi's are saying.
The problem is just that now that there are billions of rich tourists from China, Japan and Korea, obviously no one wants white "people" tourists anymore.
Why would they? The east asians are both richer and better behaved.
Farang tourists tend stay for weeks or even months at a time and as a result actually bring and spend more money overall per trip. East Asian tourists spend big too, but they only come down for 3 to 4 days at a time for a weekend style getaway. They both bring their own different types of contributions to Thai GDP.
I live in the Philippines not Thailand and I think it's really important to note that SEA countries are really generous with their visa policies for us. We can't just go to any first world country and expect to stay for months or years as a "tourist". At the same time I never forget that I am a second class citizen here and will never have the same rights as a Filipino. If I get in a dispute with a Filipino it will be hard to get my side heard over theirs. So I don't get into disputes or start shit or anything no matter how bad I want to. I think it's worse in Thailand and always has been. I remember reading a news site that was all stories about shit happening to farangs in Pattaya and so many of them were ending up dead in various ways with the crimes unlikely to ever be solved. It's not that bad here but still I can never delude myself into thinking I'm somehow above the locals like some morons who post here do.
>muh tourist dollars
>muh expensive visa
There's always another farang to take your place. You can b***h about how bad it is on the internet incessantly but foreigners keep going to Thailand. The Thais don't care.
Thai visas and Philippine visas are in no way even remotely the same. You can't even compare the two. Yes, the Philippines does have very generous visas with many paths to legitimate and legal long-term stays with minimal bureaucracy- Thailand does not, not even close. I could write a whole novel length paragraph on how different the two are, but it's not worth it, just know you are comparing apples to oranges. Many long term expats and retirees in Thailand are now considering a move to the Philippines soon for this very exact reason.
I know the Philippines is far more generous and has been as long as I've lived here. Before you could only do one year on a tourist visa then you had to get on a plane to do a visa run. Now it's three years. I always thought the situation in Thailand was a little bit easier since you could just cross a land border instead of needing to book a flight. I've heard they seriously cracked down on it at some points though. I already met one guy at immigration who moved here from Thailand because it's a more workable situation.
Thailand you get a 30 day visa exempt, with a possibility for extension of another 30 days pending approval if you spend 14 hours waiting in line at your local immigration office to do paperwork and an interview before your visa expires. That's all you get. Border runs have been a thing of the past for decades now. Anything more than a shaky 60 day stay requires either a mountain of paperwork or money, or both, and every 90 days in the country you must check in with your local Thai police station as well as report your whereabouts to the police within 24 hours every time you travel to a different city within the country. You can act high and mighty all you want, but if the Philippines pulled these same stunts as Thailand does, you'd probably be pretty fed up too.
>Border runs have been a thing of the past for decades now.
Ahem, I know a Lao prostitute that works in Bangkok who does a border run every 30 days. She has been doing this for years now. She just takes a bus to Cambodia and back. From what I've seen it's a generic bus with other poor people and they're all there for the same reason. Please explain how she gets away with this in light of your comment? They only crack down on Westerners maybe?
I googled it and apparently westerners are officially allowed 2 border runs per year. You can do more, most likely just a 3rd one, but then they can start to get pissy with you depending on the circumstances.
If she does it by bus then she's probably giving a bribe to the border official. I think they're stricter about this at airports but I'm told (not personally verified) that this happens all the time at land borders.
This or the Thais realize they can’t get blood out of a stone (money out of a brokie)
If she's a hooker then I'm sure she can pay a bribe.
Entering Thailand overland by bus as a Westerner (NOT as a Southeast Asian ASEAN national neighboring country, they have completely different rules) only gets you 15 days of visa exempt stay in Thailand, which is complete trash. If you want the 30 day visa exempt stamp, along with the possibility to renew for another 30 days, you have to enter by airport, but like another anon said, they are way stricter about doing visa runs at the airports for that exact reason, people have literally been turned away by immigration and sent back to the previous country they came from.
>only gets you 15 days of visa exempt stay in Thailand
Never heard of this before. Doesnt cone up on the google searches either. Source? FUDding perhaps?
>U.S. Passport Holders are not required to obtain a visa when entering Thailand for tourism purposes and will be permitted to stay in Thailand for a period not exceeding 30 days on each visit or 15-day stays if arriving by land-crossing.
>15-day stays if arriving by land-crossing.
Right here on the Thai embassy website...
https://thaiconsulatela.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/visa-exemption-and-visa-on-arrival-to-thailand
You're a fricking moron, holy shit. Literally the first link on one quick Google search.
You can enter Thailand up to 6 times a year and get 30 days apiece. Thailand is not going to you away at the airport unless you are trying for #7 or otherwise do not meet the basic entry requirements.
Absolutely moronic if you think Thailand is going to let you enter 6 times a year without question.
Also you can get a 30 days extension which makes a lot more sense than constant border runs.
Even easier is paying for a visa at the embassy and not having to frick around at an immigration office dealing
I've crossed the from the Malaysian land border and always get 30 days visa exempt, not sure why Americans are singled out here
I'm an American and I got 30 days at a land crossing. Also, at the land crossing, there was a sign that said, even if you overstayed for 5 years, you'd just pay a fee. That's why the shitskins never worry about visa runs and sell Cialis or t-shirts or real Rolexses on the street.
what about the drug dealers on Sukhumvit? I heard rumors the police took them all out
Maybe, I've been on a good 10 km stretch of that road at all times of the day for a ~month and never had anyone offer me drugs, besides dick pills, because young men's penises don't work I guess.
they snare you with their druggie stare, say "what up buh"
Nope, but I had some place down by National Stadium sell me hot milk. Apparently that's a thing here. The restaurant said it existed since the 1960s or some shit. 5 percent fat milk that is between room temp and refrigerator is good, but this had gone too far.
Cool story FUD moron
>Absolutely moronic if you think Thailand is going to let you enter 6 times a year without question.
Absolutely. You get the benefit of the doubt in the beginning, but once they see you come often and stay long they will start questioning you. I am now routinely asked for a "conversation with the immigration officer" when I arrive. They always let me in, because I have everything they ask for, never overstay, am kind and polite. But they do make sure I know I am on notice. It seems to be working, because I am actually considering getting some other type of visa.
Actually, I can go to Denmark or England for 6 months as a tourist, and the list goes on.
The cost of accommodation will be far higher and they probably won't be nice to you if you try to cross the border then come right back in after.
You get what you pay for. I'd rather be around Danes that are on the same wavelength as me when it comes to just about everything. And that includes a vigesimal 20 base system.
>SAWATDEE KAAA MASSAGE KAAA
Oh yes baby oh my god
Damn I regret not staying more in Thailand 15 years ago. More and more lessons I get on taking advantage of opportunities when they arise and being ready for them.
I just bought a few things at the mall, and the total added up to 3000 baht exactly, and the rarity was lost on the cashiers. I of course don't speak good Thai, and translators can be shit, but I broke it apart Barney style and they were just like, so what, can I get back to starring off into the distance waiting for someone to come into the store and break up the monotony. I mean hell, they don't even charge exact numbers for the metro. It's like 28 or 43 baht or some weird shit.
Am I missing out not going to touristy places like Phuket, Phang Nga, Ayutthaya, etc? Been in Thailand for a week with another 2.5 weeks left. All I want to do is train Muay Thai 6 days a week. I'm enjoying training, eating good food, and visiting senpai here but sometimes wonder I'm wasting my time and should be sight seeing like most tourists do instead.
Three weeks isn't much for studying or training things. I personally wouldn't do muay Thai or anything like that without staying there for several months minimum. It takes a long time to see real results.
Yeah, how dare someone do group physical activities during their vacation.
Walking is a thing and it burns calories. You can even explore places while doing it.
Fair enough. I didn't think of the surrounding benefits of it. I just imagined being in a gym or field somewhere and taking the training seriously so that it cuts out other things of life to focus. Like a dedicated kind of thing.
True but I can stay in shape before heading back home for summer. And it’s way easier meeting people from all over the world in these classes. First day training I met a cute girl. I do want to go down to Phuket one of these days tho.
It could last you a year or a month. Depends how addicted to prostitutes and booze you are.
That’s a solid six months with a reasonable amount of debauchery. 1 year if a pious, street-food water
Everyone in Thailand is gay
what the frick is wrong with Australian posters? you guys seriously celebrate pic related
What does this have to do with Thailand?
speaking of which? what are your thoughts on sexpats? just stumbled upon this disgusting thread yesterday OP even had the guts to flaunt his intentions loud
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/64220859/
does this make your blood boil as one of the locals there? what is it even like attending a furry con? are these events typically filled to the brim with old white male westerners?
I'm not a Thai local nor have I ever been to Thailand but my official position is yiff in hell furgays, burn in over 9000 degree flames, burn alive.
This kids, is the wrong thing to say.
Paid for by Thai Broadcasting Company™
>but potentially including foreigners partaking in the "adult entertainment" industry
guys holy frick its worse than you think had the urge to look up thaitails this thing is actually a full on fetish display party disguised as a harmless kid friendly "kemono convention" you cant make this shit up fricking foreigners turning us into another epstein island
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/people-wearing-furry-costumes-walk-in-a-parade-to-kick-news-footage/1495887520
https://www.sotwe.com/redroombangkok
>angry native guy
Lmaooooo. White boomers cucked the shit out of you
>Thailand has furgays and those dog rubber costume guys
This shit is so fricking trash
BOYCOTT QANTAS FLIGHTS whos with me?
These questions seem to pop up regularly, so I don't know if it's a serious question or some trolling or an op to make it seem like the board is more active than it really is. However, since I have been thinking about this stuff lately, I will write a few words.
2022 was the first time I set foot in SEA, as a European, and I fell in love with the place. It's just great here. Thailand was the first country I visited. I stayed for a few months, mostly in Phuket. Since then I spent a lot of time in Bangkok and also experienced most countries in the region. I still feel Thailand is the most friendly, trouble free, wonderful place to be. Of course it has rough edges, lots of them, but every place does. Honestly, you should go and experience every place you are considering yourself. I read a lot about Thailand, the Philippines, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia etc. and my subjective experience never matched what people were saying. I guess I just have different needs.
PH is great if you are not good with women and need a confidence boost. I was getting a few hundred likes a day. Stopped checking my apps when I had a few thousand women waiting for a match, date, and you know what. But I did not like the average Filipino person I would meet at the store, restaurant, or basically anywhere. I did not really like the food. The place was generally not safe. Not very well developed. Then I look at Bangkok. Maybe the streets are not as clean and neat as best areas south of Manila (Makati, BGC), but it's pretty much always safe. I do like the average Thai person. I do like the food. I do like the weather. And I do find Thai women much more attractive in general.
Now I was comparing Thailand and the Philippines because both places are roughly in the same price range. For me, Thailand is just better. People talk a lot about touristic places. Well, just don't go there. It's a country of 60 million people, there are nontouristic spots there.
>a good place to move to with 15k in savings
I will say this, however - 15k (assuming USD) is not a alot of money. You can live very comfortably in Bangkok for 2k a month, but that only buys you 7 months. You could halve that cost if you were willing to compromise on living standards and food. I am certain you go go really spartan on this, but the question is - how are you going to make money going forward? "Move" implies long term.
You sound like the ultimate never traveler
Funny, because I've been on the road continuously for 3 years. If we forget covid happened for a moment, then 7 years.
Or just go to Chiang Mai and that 1k is comfortable again.
I'm at a clinic in Vietnam right now where the bathroom smells of shit and has neither toilet paper nor soap, and the doctor offered me a cigarette.
And the news for foreigners just continues to get worse. It's fricking over for Thailand, unironically this time...
Just posted 3 hours ago. After a string of "bad behavior" of foreigners suddenly covered by the Thai media, Thai Immigration and Thai police are officially joining forces to crack down on, scrutinize and strictly vet foreigners, and not just visa over stays and the like, but potentially including foreigners partaking in the "adult entertainment" industry (fast forward to 6:04) which is still technically "illegal" in Thailand. It's fricking over. These countries are getting sick of Passport Bros and Redditors, Kyoto in Japan is even straight up banning foreigners off of entire straights, taking effect in just a few days. Good job idiots, you couldn't just keep your fricking mouth shut and had to blab to everyone all over social media. You really are the stereotypical "losers back home" for a good reason, and now you are losers overseas too.
SRT staff inspected my passport when I was buying a train ticket. Just a couple weeks ago they would hand a ticket over immediately upon request.
Again, I'm convinced this has to do with the influx of Chinese visitors. Chinese feel safer under government scrutiny.
These must be the rapidly gentrifying areas. Here in Lampang, there is no sign of any change.
>During Covid
Stopped reading there. 2024 and 2020 might as well be two completely different planets as far as Thailand is concerned.
When I go back in a few months I’m pissing all over the FUDsters
>get tired of the endless fricking and handjobs
>just want to sit around chilling with bros
>meet some germans
>drink with them for a bit
>turns out they are russians
>try to get me to invest in some fricking ponzi scheme
>started threatening me
>pretend to be crazy and armed with a knife
>they backed off
Is there anyone who isn't just in it to fleece you in this fricking country?
No, it's becoming more and more like South Florida with each passing day. A destination for con artists, wannabes, narcissists and desperate losers looking to restart their life while running away from something back home. Attitudes and genuine relationships with other people is starting to go to shit as a result.
bros, spent 3 months in vietnam, now going to thailand next week. any suggestions? arriving in bkk, maybe spend a few days there then... is koh samui good?
never been to koh samui but if you're interested just go. it's going to be hot af next week tho.
i think im used to the heat here in saigon, alright, will probably just go
>is koh samui good?
What's your idea of good? I thought it was gay.
just scenic beaches, not overcrowded, cheap food and accom. maybe somewhere to do muay thai, maybe some weed
It was fairly crowded when I was there but it's big enough that you can get away. Mix of families and douchebro trash. Weed is more expensive than most places so bring it from somewhere else if you care.
i see, any other island/beach suggestions that you can get from bkk fairly easily?
I liked Phangan better than Samui and you might too. Less crowded, seemed like more of my kind of people but I don't know if that applies to you or not. There's definitely a party to be had but also peace and quiet.
oh, its right next to it, sounds good
I think it's a good call. The only thing I'll add is that Samui is definitely more built up with modern shit so if you want that then maybe do Samui but it's another of the reasons I liked it less.
so does one really need that international driving license to rent a bike? surely not?
no but just get it
if you get pulled over the cops will need a hefty bribe otherwise
FUDposters get the rope
The international license will specify car or bike (or both) and if you're not licensed to drive a motorbike in your home country then you won't be here either. On the other hand, it's SO fricking cheap and easy to get that you might as well.
how hardcore are the muay thai gyms? im now looking to go koh samui or ko phangan and want to train for 30/60 days. but i dont want to get beat up hardcore from the start
Nice quads, pussy.
kek, frick it, dont care if i get beat up anyway, will be going anyway
That's the spirit bro. I didn't do it because I'm a pussy who doesn't like getting beaten up, but if you want to do it, whip your dick out and do it