Whoa it's almost as if a super densely populated city which forces everyone to eat out constantly has severe competition to keep prices fairly low and can sustain that model because how many customers they get. >The exchange rate is 1$=150JPY.
Great and guess what my IT job where I make 105k/yr I shit you not, only got me an offer of ~40-45k depending which way the yen swings that year.
Try comparing US meat and vegetable prices at a grocery to Japan while taking into the average salary of a Japanese worker being around ~35k/yr USD. Living in Japan and attempting to keep a balanced diet will drive you up a fricking wall and a hole in your wallet.
>Living in Japan and attempting to keep a balanced diet will drive you up a fricking wall and a hole in your wallet
And yet their obesity rates are much much lower than the fatnited states of lardmerica, not to mention longer life spans. Japanese diets ARE healthier, and cheaper.
Japanese people also tend to be smaller than Americans. Is that a worthwhile tradeoff? >die tall at 70 after eating steaks, burgers, and fried chicken >die a manlet at 90 after eating rice, tofu, and microplastic fish
I mean, if everyone else is shorter too I don't see why it would be a problem. What's the American obsession with being as big as possible? Maybe humans aren't necessarily meant to be 6'3 250 lb ogres. We're not in the wild anymore so this really doesn't benefit you. Also America isn't even that tall, Western and Northern Europe are taller
Japanese food is diverse, their slop is awful and maybe even more unhealthy than US stuff, but there's an easy access to quality and tasty stuff.
US is the same, in both case you need to put some effort.
Are mutts actually this dumb wtf ?
If you're 5'7 in Japan you're perfectly average, will live a normal life and only a very small fraction of women would reject you for that reason.
If you're 5'8 in the US you'll be memed everyday and reminded that you're just a manlet. Women will reject you because even if they don't care, their friends might.
>obesity rates are much much lower
Doesn't mean all that much Africa has a low obesity rate but that doesn't mean healthy. Obesity is something you can control by just picking what you eat. It's lower for sure, but that's because of a variety of reasons and really has nothing to do with anything I posted. >not to mention longer life spans
There are a few reasons for this, much of it has to do with elderly not telling anyone they died and give their children their pension check as payments to get by in life, this is a huge thing in japan that's fricked their metrics up. Not to mention, no standing army, less natural disasters, near single race to diagnose, limited migrants coming in with who knows what issues, etc.
>Japanese diets ARE healthier, and cheaper.
Not even, low tier bait. Most all Japanese develop diabetes, have calcium deficiencies that frick them up as they age, almost all Japanese have to get their teeth completely redone in life, most a common cold will kick their ass severely, etc etc. Please get better bait
>living in seattle >tech money drives up cost of living >eating out and service suck major monkey nuts
I fricking HATE eating out in this city. I remember visiting Philadelphia and going to Reading Terminal Market and being absolutely flabbergasted that a major metropolitan city can have fantastic dining out options for inexpensive pricing
I live in a big city 5.1m metro area, just not on a coastal shithole.
Japanese people also tend to be smaller than Americans. Is that a worthwhile tradeoff? >die tall at 70 after eating steaks, burgers, and fried chicken >die a manlet at 90 after eating rice, tofu, and microplastic fish
Please look up pension laws, the Japanese government will say they have X life span if it somehow beats Korea. Hell they have "the lowest" homeless or no homeless in Japan, they got this number how you might ask? They sent like 50 people to go ask people around parks if they know of homeless people in a few prefectures. Japanese numbers are often complete bullshit.
>Please look up pension laws
Please look up pension fraud, nvm I'll do it for you
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2010/09/11/national/234000-centenarians-listed-in-registries-missing/
This is a constantly ongoing thing where Japan is paying people who are nearly 110 that have been dead for 4 decades or more
>elderly not telling anyone they died and give their children their pension check as payments to get by in life, this is a huge thing in japan that's fricked their metrics up.
kek, I remember reading an article of a guy who his his dead mom's corpse in a closet to continue collecting her pension checks, and was only caught because his neighbor reported a foul odor coming from the house.
Yup that's pretty normal, many elderly will "go off to see an old friend" and then never return usually going into the suicide forest or some place where they'll never be found and just let their child collect shit. The gov can't really do anything because they can't prove she is dead without a body or death certificate so the kids will often get pensions for a few decades.
Japanese people also tend to be smaller than Americans. Is that a worthwhile tradeoff? >die tall at 70 after eating steaks, burgers, and fried chicken >die a manlet at 90 after eating rice, tofu, and microplastic fish
Also I'd rather die at 70 being mobile with a healthy bone structure than some of the elderly Japanese you see with their backs basically in the shape of a U and can't do anything but sit in pain. "A-at least I'm alive ooooo my spine!"
Good thing I don't live in atlanta and I still make more and I can buy a house
2 months ago
Anonymous
It's South Dakota, my condolences. I did a trade show at Spencer Iowa and had to go through that do nothing shithole of a "city". Iowans were cool though, those farm boys are big corn chugging jabronies
2 months ago
Anonymous
I'll take it compared to where I use to live in a +5million metro. Good paying jobs, rarely crime outside a few corners of the city, allows me to travel half the year
1 month ago
Anonymous
>5 million metro
Lol, I bet you're from some flyover shithole like Cincinnati or St. Louis
>living in seattle >tech money drives up cost of living >eating out and service suck major monkey nuts
I fricking HATE eating out in this city. I remember visiting Philadelphia and going to Reading Terminal Market and being absolutely flabbergasted that a major metropolitan city can have fantastic dining out options for inexpensive pricing
the level of dipshit cope americans exude is insane. i ate smoked duck breast and soba every night with highballs in cans (illegal in most of the US) for under $3.
what the frick is wrong with these morons, paying high prices to pump up sales taxes to subsidize rich people's neighborhoods. america preys on the stupid, and yet people backbend around to their buttholes to make it make sense, and they still barely get paid, because they don't matter. it's the funniest form of cuckoldry in existence.
>Living in Japan and attempting to keep a balanced diet will drive you up a fricking wall and a hole in your wallet.
This is just about the most insane thing anyone can write. Do you know what it means? It means your entire way of thinking of what "healthy" eating is, is wrong. Japanese are healthier, slimmer, and they move better at later stages of life than you. The facts are staring you right there in the face and you force yourself to ignore it. Just amazing cognitive dissonance.
Whoa it's almost as if a super densely populated city which forces everyone to eat out constantly has severe competition to keep prices fairly low and can sustain that model because how many customers they get. >The exchange rate is 1$=150JPY.
Great and guess what my IT job where I make 105k/yr I shit you not, only got me an offer of ~40-45k depending which way the yen swings that year.
Try comparing US meat and vegetable prices at a grocery to Japan while taking into the average salary of a Japanese worker being around ~35k/yr USD. Living in Japan and attempting to keep a balanced diet will drive you up a fricking wall and a hole in your wallet.
as high as US grocery store prices are these days, I'd be damn surprised if fruits & veggies cost more in a Japanese market. BTW $35K a year is a typical salary in much of the USA, especially if you exclude dorkers and officegays. You always gotta buy fresh produce if you want a balanced diet, you can't expect restaurants to give it to you.
>'d be damn surprised if fruits & veggies cost more in a Japanese market.
an ear of corn will set you back like 300 yen lol. You can get like 3 for a dollar in most the US. >BTW $35K a year is a typical salary in much of the USA, especially if you exclude dorkers and officegays
Which has a lot to do with the fact the US job market is offset by many people entering the workforce <20 and working part time.
I think what a lot of people fail to realize is that Japanese fast food & junk food can be just as bad as their American counterparts, if not worse. Japan is definitely not shy about using plastics, so you can bet there will be an extra serving of microplastics. Europeans like to boast about how they've banned certain food additives that are used in the US, but Japan and other Asian countries have additives that even the US wouldn't use.
Eating clean in the US is insanely easy simply by going to the grocery store, doing meal prep, and enjoying. Thinking Japan doesn't heavily use preservatives is hilarious given how many digestive issues it causes the average citizen there. Like every single shop has shitting medication due to how in balanced and straight up bad things can be.
>inb4 nuh uh they are thin
Whoodee doo, walk 10km a day and eat <2000 cals per day and you too can be pretty damn thin
The portions are smaller
Lots of it includes fake meat
Most this shit is literally heated microwave slop you don't see but they spend .2 seconds on presentation making it look good
IIRC min wage is about 7-8 bucks an hour the average wage in Tokyo is 36k USD so make of that what you will
Most of what you see there probably costs about 2 USD it's basically a microwaved meal with either tarter potatoes or something. Most time in Japanese food is done on presentation.
>I understand why food is cheap here but cost of living is way different
That's kinda how the food is so cheap, everyone is more or less forced to eat out compared to eating at home. Most businesses have a endless stream of customers meaning they can do smaller profit margins while making bank still. It's kind of how you can still find huge 1 dollar slices of pizza in NYC even with inflation.
Operating a business in the US is also a lot more expensive because the US has israelites who introduced the concept of frivolous lawsuits and insurance against said lawsuits.
>plastic bread >butter that's at best NZ import (or at worst fake Asian """butter""". >simple meal with few ingredients that would be easy to make at scale
Not that impressive even at €3. My company does actual meals for not much more and some are pretty good.
Here my take on jap food after living amd working here for 6 months.
Slop is slop no matter where you go. That being said if I were to compare an american convenience store to a kombini a kombini beats it hand down with possible exceptions to maybe say a wawa.
Japanese food tend to be carb heavy and low in protein. But I've never had bad meat here and that someone who's been steak and mash potatoes for well everything.
Pic related This is a simple meal for about 1,000 yen im having right now at an izakaya. Steak, Brussel sprouts sweet potato bell pepper.
This biggest sin japs have healthy food wise is they drink like fish and consume way too much sodium.
I also cook most of my meals at home since I prefer simple western dishes.
I want to know this too. Every time I see how much cheaper food is in Japan with the yen dying now, I feel an insane drive to uproot my life and move there immediately, but then I remember I'm eating borderline carnivore super healthy from farmers and shit here with glass containers as much as possible, and I wonder if the health tradeoff will be worth it.
Where can I find high quality grass fed/finished beef in tokyo, as well as raw milk and plastic alternatives (if there are any)
Just like in the states the smaller butcheries have great cuts. Japanese cuts tend to be thinner. But you can order a more traditional cut i.e a t-bone almost anywhere. People are down on Aeon but the quality is better than say a Safeway.
Another thing to consider food is very seasonal here and stuff out of season will be imported.
Also I wouldn't be concerned with plastic here, they have an insane rate of recycling here. The bigger issue is heating food with plastics.
On the topic of meat Japan is still very much vegetarian (and historically even banned meat). That being said Okinawans eat alot of pork and fish with mountains of fruit and they have one of the longest life expectancies.
Not really sure man.. I live in yokohama and there's a few markets and a farmers near me that have good cuts. I don't buy into the raw milk hype.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Ssibal, guess I'll just have to try exploring and find out when I move there in a couple months. My spoken Japanese is dogshit unfortunately lol, but thanks.
900 yen
500 yen.
HOLY HEKKIN JAPAN IS BASED!!!
Whoa it's almost as if a super densely populated city which forces everyone to eat out constantly has severe competition to keep prices fairly low and can sustain that model because how many customers they get.
>The exchange rate is 1$=150JPY.
Great and guess what my IT job where I make 105k/yr I shit you not, only got me an offer of ~40-45k depending which way the yen swings that year.
Try comparing US meat and vegetable prices at a grocery to Japan while taking into the average salary of a Japanese worker being around ~35k/yr USD. Living in Japan and attempting to keep a balanced diet will drive you up a fricking wall and a hole in your wallet.
>Living in Japan and attempting to keep a balanced diet will drive you up a fricking wall and a hole in your wallet
And yet their obesity rates are much much lower than the fatnited states of lardmerica, not to mention longer life spans. Japanese diets ARE healthier, and cheaper.
Japanese people also tend to be smaller than Americans. Is that a worthwhile tradeoff?
>die tall at 70 after eating steaks, burgers, and fried chicken
>die a manlet at 90 after eating rice, tofu, and microplastic fish
I mean, if everyone else is shorter too I don't see why it would be a problem. What's the American obsession with being as big as possible? Maybe humans aren't necessarily meant to be 6'3 250 lb ogres. We're not in the wild anymore so this really doesn't benefit you. Also America isn't even that tall, Western and Northern Europe are taller
Japanese food is diverse, their slop is awful and maybe even more unhealthy than US stuff, but there's an easy access to quality and tasty stuff.
US is the same, in both case you need to put some effort.
Are mutts actually this dumb wtf ?
If you're 5'7 in Japan you're perfectly average, will live a normal life and only a very small fraction of women would reject you for that reason.
If you're 5'8 in the US you'll be memed everyday and reminded that you're just a manlet. Women will reject you because even if they don't care, their friends might.
Such nonsense. The japanese 90 year old will also literally be doing cartwheels around you, while you'll be decrepit and aching from arthritis at 60.
Four or five generations live together in our households, you lock your grandparents away in state facilities and never see them.
>obesity rates are much much lower
Doesn't mean all that much Africa has a low obesity rate but that doesn't mean healthy. Obesity is something you can control by just picking what you eat. It's lower for sure, but that's because of a variety of reasons and really has nothing to do with anything I posted.
>not to mention longer life spans
There are a few reasons for this, much of it has to do with elderly not telling anyone they died and give their children their pension check as payments to get by in life, this is a huge thing in japan that's fricked their metrics up. Not to mention, no standing army, less natural disasters, near single race to diagnose, limited migrants coming in with who knows what issues, etc.
>Japanese diets ARE healthier, and cheaper.
Not even, low tier bait. Most all Japanese develop diabetes, have calcium deficiencies that frick them up as they age, almost all Japanese have to get their teeth completely redone in life, most a common cold will kick their ass severely, etc etc. Please get better bait
I live in a big city 5.1m metro area, just not on a coastal shithole.
Please look up pension laws, the Japanese government will say they have X life span if it somehow beats Korea. Hell they have "the lowest" homeless or no homeless in Japan, they got this number how you might ask? They sent like 50 people to go ask people around parks if they know of homeless people in a few prefectures. Japanese numbers are often complete bullshit.
>Please look up pension laws
Please look up pension fraud, nvm I'll do it for you
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2010/09/11/national/234000-centenarians-listed-in-registries-missing/
This is a constantly ongoing thing where Japan is paying people who are nearly 110 that have been dead for 4 decades or more
>elderly not telling anyone they died and give their children their pension check as payments to get by in life, this is a huge thing in japan that's fricked their metrics up.
kek, I remember reading an article of a guy who his his dead mom's corpse in a closet to continue collecting her pension checks, and was only caught because his neighbor reported a foul odor coming from the house.
Yup that's pretty normal, many elderly will "go off to see an old friend" and then never return usually going into the suicide forest or some place where they'll never be found and just let their child collect shit. The gov can't really do anything because they can't prove she is dead without a body or death certificate so the kids will often get pensions for a few decades.
Also I'd rather die at 70 being mobile with a healthy bone structure than some of the elderly Japanese you see with their backs basically in the shape of a U and can't do anything but sit in pain. "A-at least I'm alive ooooo my spine!"
Id rather have Asians and homeless than a Black person population greater than 40% like Atlanta
Good thing I don't live in atlanta and I still make more and I can buy a house
It's South Dakota, my condolences. I did a trade show at Spencer Iowa and had to go through that do nothing shithole of a "city". Iowans were cool though, those farm boys are big corn chugging jabronies
I'll take it compared to where I use to live in a +5million metro. Good paying jobs, rarely crime outside a few corners of the city, allows me to travel half the year
>5 million metro
Lol, I bet you're from some flyover shithole like Cincinnati or St. Louis
Sioux Falls is a great place to live
>living in seattle
>tech money drives up cost of living
>eating out and service suck major monkey nuts
I fricking HATE eating out in this city. I remember visiting Philadelphia and going to Reading Terminal Market and being absolutely flabbergasted that a major metropolitan city can have fantastic dining out options for inexpensive pricing
the level of dipshit cope americans exude is insane. i ate smoked duck breast and soba every night with highballs in cans (illegal in most of the US) for under $3.
what the frick is wrong with these morons, paying high prices to pump up sales taxes to subsidize rich people's neighborhoods. america preys on the stupid, and yet people backbend around to their buttholes to make it make sense, and they still barely get paid, because they don't matter. it's the funniest form of cuckoldry in existence.
>Living in Japan and attempting to keep a balanced diet will drive you up a fricking wall and a hole in your wallet.
This is just about the most insane thing anyone can write. Do you know what it means? It means your entire way of thinking of what "healthy" eating is, is wrong. Japanese are healthier, slimmer, and they move better at later stages of life than you. The facts are staring you right there in the face and you force yourself to ignore it. Just amazing cognitive dissonance.
>tfw when a dish is actually about tree fiddy
Goddamn Loch Ness Monster
cheaper than I expected.
as high as US grocery store prices are these days, I'd be damn surprised if fruits & veggies cost more in a Japanese market. BTW $35K a year is a typical salary in much of the USA, especially if you exclude dorkers and officegays. You always gotta buy fresh produce if you want a balanced diet, you can't expect restaurants to give it to you.
>'d be damn surprised if fruits & veggies cost more in a Japanese market.
an ear of corn will set you back like 300 yen lol. You can get like 3 for a dollar in most the US.
>BTW $35K a year is a typical salary in much of the USA, especially if you exclude dorkers and officegays
Which has a lot to do with the fact the US job market is offset by many people entering the workforce <20 and working part time.
in japan we call this "one coin lunch" (many restaurants offer such a deal), as our largest coin denomination is 500 yen
for me it's indian curry
>slop, japan
This.
I think what a lot of people fail to realize is that Japanese fast food & junk food can be just as bad as their American counterparts, if not worse. Japan is definitely not shy about using plastics, so you can bet there will be an extra serving of microplastics. Europeans like to boast about how they've banned certain food additives that are used in the US, but Japan and other Asian countries have additives that even the US wouldn't use.
Eating clean is still far cheaper than in the west.
Eating clean in the US is insanely easy simply by going to the grocery store, doing meal prep, and enjoying. Thinking Japan doesn't heavily use preservatives is hilarious given how many digestive issues it causes the average citizen there. Like every single shop has shitting medication due to how in balanced and straight up bad things can be.
>inb4 nuh uh they are thin
Whoodee doo, walk 10km a day and eat <2000 cals per day and you too can be pretty damn thin
Is shitting medication for diarrhea or constipation?
use the general you fricking inbred weeb. I hope you suffer from a fatal accident asap
1$USD you mean
You mean $1 USD.
Putting the currency symbol after the number is for eurocucks.
It goes behind it for proper english
You don't say Dollar one, you say One dollar.
So it is 1$
>proper english
You mean "English."
woooooaaaah youre a badass
You SAY one dollar, but you WRITE it as $1.
How is food so cheap there? What do the staff get paid? I understand why food is cheap here but cost of living is way different
The portions are smaller
Lots of it includes fake meat
Most this shit is literally heated microwave slop you don't see but they spend .2 seconds on presentation making it look good
IIRC min wage is about 7-8 bucks an hour the average wage in Tokyo is 36k USD so make of that what you will
Most of what you see there probably costs about 2 USD it's basically a microwaved meal with either tarter potatoes or something. Most time in Japanese food is done on presentation.
>I understand why food is cheap here but cost of living is way different
That's kinda how the food is so cheap, everyone is more or less forced to eat out compared to eating at home. Most businesses have a endless stream of customers meaning they can do smaller profit margins while making bank still. It's kind of how you can still find huge 1 dollar slices of pizza in NYC even with inflation.
Operating a business in the US is also a lot more expensive because the US has israelites who introduced the concept of frivolous lawsuits and insurance against said lawsuits.
Dollar slice is dead now. Cheapest is $1.50 and you'll be served by Poo Hands Pajeet
>plastic bread
>butter that's at best NZ import (or at worst fake Asian """butter""".
>simple meal with few ingredients that would be easy to make at scale
Not that impressive even at €3. My company does actual meals for not much more and some are pretty good.
Hi
Here my take on jap food after living amd working here for 6 months.
Slop is slop no matter where you go. That being said if I were to compare an american convenience store to a kombini a kombini beats it hand down with possible exceptions to maybe say a wawa.
Japanese food tend to be carb heavy and low in protein. But I've never had bad meat here and that someone who's been steak and mash potatoes for well everything.
Pic related This is a simple meal for about 1,000 yen im having right now at an izakaya. Steak, Brussel sprouts sweet potato bell pepper.
This biggest sin japs have healthy food wise is they drink like fish and consume way too much sodium.
I also cook most of my meals at home since I prefer simple western dishes.
Where can I find high quality grass fed/finished beef in tokyo, as well as raw milk and plastic alternatives (if there are any)
I want to know this too. Every time I see how much cheaper food is in Japan with the yen dying now, I feel an insane drive to uproot my life and move there immediately, but then I remember I'm eating borderline carnivore super healthy from farmers and shit here with glass containers as much as possible, and I wonder if the health tradeoff will be worth it.
Just like in the states the smaller butcheries have great cuts. Japanese cuts tend to be thinner. But you can order a more traditional cut i.e a t-bone almost anywhere. People are down on Aeon but the quality is better than say a Safeway.
Another thing to consider food is very seasonal here and stuff out of season will be imported.
Also I wouldn't be concerned with plastic here, they have an insane rate of recycling here. The bigger issue is heating food with plastics.
On the topic of meat Japan is still very much vegetarian (and historically even banned meat). That being said Okinawans eat alot of pork and fish with mountains of fruit and they have one of the longest life expectancies.
Anywhere in setagaya to find these types of butcher shops? Also is there any way to get raw milk?
Not really sure man.. I live in yokohama and there's a few markets and a farmers near me that have good cuts. I don't buy into the raw milk hype.
Ssibal, guess I'll just have to try exploring and find out when I move there in a couple months. My spoken Japanese is dogshit unfortunately lol, but thanks.
Imagine traveling all the way to Japan to eat that slop on a plate
fried and greasy food. gross. so much for japanese food being healthy.
Hamburger Steak is so disgusting, tastes like dog food, whether its cooked by an American or Japanese.
Now guess how muchthis costs in peru? It came with mango juice as well. 1 dollar = 4 soles
Looks healthy and hearty, lentils rice and chicken.
I'm a firm believer the secret to healthy life and the end of destruction to the environment is a legume rich diet.