Traveling for loners

After a couple of rough years with depression and anxiety, I'm getting back into travel. Problem is, I don't enjoy it because I don't have any friends or gf to travel with, and I just don't enjoy my own company. Looking at some famous building or hiking through a nice landscape is fun, but there's no one to share the moment with and no one to relive memories with when I'm back home. I just feel like I'm going through the motions. If I plan to see or do something one day, but end up not having time for it, I feel nothing, because what's the point anyway?

I have a hard time making friends and acquaintances too, and I always have. I'm 33 years old and in my entire life I've only had a handful of people I've called friends, none of which I'm talking with anymore, and zero romantic relationships. I can't just go somewhere and find people to hang out with, it's just not possible for me. It's not like I haven't tried, I've been to 30+ countries and tried to befriend people everywhere, but it never goes anywhere. My travels have always been me walking around looking at shit during the day, then going for drinks with people I met at the hostel at night, and nothing ever comes out of it. I've tried to fake the normie lifestyle for 10+ years, and not even someone to go to a museum with or a single one night stand has been the result. As I'm getting older, I realize I'm just tired of doing everything by myself.

I'm planning a month long road trip next summer, which would be my first long solo trip in almost six years, but I'm not sure if I should bother. Spending a whole lot of money so that I can tick places of on a map or a list, gain memories that no one wants to share with me and stories no one wants to listen to, I don't know man. Is there a point in traveling for the chronically lonely? Interested in hearing your experiences.

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I vote no. For the most part, shared experiences with friends/family are the only experiences that count in the end. It sounds like you are constantly giving off vibes that make people slightly uncomfortable... not enough to kick you out of a group, but where nobody wants to connect further with you one-on-one.

    Traveling for cooming or traveling to fulfill some sort of narrow autistic interest are the only reasons to travel alone for someone like that.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It sounds like you are constantly giving off vibes that make people slightly uncomfortable
      Yeah, that's been my theory too. I'm short and quite ugly (big underbite), so I guess people just subconsciously don't want to spend time with me.

      Do you have any niche interests? Maybe there are festivals or conferences that cater to them. Temple stays or meditation retreat alternatively just to change it up a bit?

      I have recently gotten into climbing, and I want to expand that to actual mountain climbing outdoors, which was the goal of my next summer trip, but I don't know. I think I'd run into the same problem there, with my feelings of loneliness putting a huge damper on an otherwise enjoyable acticity. Also climbing is not really something normal people do solo, so I'm back at square one again. Same with festivals, I love music but I don't think I'd enjoy just being there by myself. Also my social anxiety would probably stop me from letting loose and dance to the music in the first place. Meditation retreats and such isn't really my cup of tea and I don't think I'd enjoy that even at the best of times.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >my social anxiety would probably stop me from letting loose and dance to the music in the first place
        I'm guessing you never tried molly. I've heard a few stories from guys I've met over the years that rolling once basically cured their social anxiety. 4-5 hours as a hypersocial lunatic made them realize that socializing can actually be fun instead of emotionally taxing, even as they sobered up

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Awful life advice

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          I have a habit of getting addicted to everything I try, I was an alcoholic for a couple of years, so I think I'm gonna steer clear of hard drugs.

          https://i.imgur.com/83oQdkj.png

          >Temple stays or meditation retreats
          do they have things similar but for 'extreme sports'? I've been getting into them recently (rock climbing, snowboarding, both of which I've tried, and I'd like to try surfing) but problem is I have no buddies to go with. I know party hostels are a thing, but do they have..... X niche activity hostels, I guess you could call them? So one could partake in the desired activity as well as make friends?

          [...]
          I'm not a shrink but I'd look into 'cognitive restructuring'. From reading your posts you'll express a desire then make up some excuse as to why it probably won't work out. I think you have really negative thought patterns leading to catastrophic and pessimistic thinking. People are probably picking up on this melancholy, 'bad vibes', which is probably why you have a hard time making friends. Being upbeat, kind, down to earth, and playful are what contribute most to likeability. You should work on being more optimistic

          >I know party hostels are a thing, but do they have..... X niche activity hostels, I guess you could call them?
          God that would be awesome. From a quick google search it seems climbing hostels are an actual thing. It has never occured to me to even google it, but this might be something to actually try.
          >I'd look into 'cognitive restructuring'.
          This is good advice, thanks.
          >From reading your posts you'll express a desire then make up some excuse as to why it probably won't work out.
          You got me there lol. It's important to note that my negative assumptions are based on actual experience though. I'm not exaggerating when I say I've tried to make friends, both platonic and romantic, at every single trip I've ever been on, without a single positive result. Actually, literally zero. But I appreciate what you say, and I'm working on being a more kind and optimistic person. I don't want it to be over, despite everything I still have some hope it'll all work out. Thanks for a helpful and motivating post Anon, especially the part about niche activity hostels. Maybe trying to fit in with the normies when I'm obviously not a normie has been the problem all along.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I have a habit of getting addicted to everything I try
            You can't get addicted to ecstasy. It drains your happy hormones which need time to replenish themselves. If you pop a pill every day by the 3rd day you will feel absolutely nothing from it and probably just make you nauseous.
            t. E user for like 15 years now.

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            After a couple of rough years with depression and anxiety, I'm getting back into travel. Problem is, I don't enjoy it because I don't have any friends or gf to travel with, and I just don't enjoy my own company. Looking at some famous building or hiking through a nice landscape is fun, but there's no one to share the moment with and no one to relive memories with when I'm back home. I just feel like I'm going through the motions. If I plan to see or do something one day, but end up not having time for it, I feel nothing, because what's the point anyway?

            I have a hard time making friends and acquaintances too, and I always have. I'm 33 years old and in my entire life I've only had a handful of people I've called friends, none of which I'm talking with anymore, and zero romantic relationships. I can't just go somewhere and find people to hang out with, it's just not possible for me. It's not like I haven't tried, I've been to 30+ countries and tried to befriend people everywhere, but it never goes anywhere. My travels have always been me walking around looking at shit during the day, then going for drinks with people I met at the hostel at night, and nothing ever comes out of it. I've tried to fake the normie lifestyle for 10+ years, and not even someone to go to a museum with or a single one night stand has been the result. As I'm getting older, I realize I'm just tired of doing everything by myself.

            I'm planning a month long road trip next summer, which would be my first long solo trip in almost six years, but I'm not sure if I should bother. Spending a whole lot of money so that I can tick places of on a map or a list, gain memories that no one wants to share with me and stories no one wants to listen to, I don't know man. Is there a point in traveling for the chronically lonely? Interested in hearing your experiences.

            Pretty much sounds exactly like me, except that I turned 35 20 minutes ago. I only travel for sports/drinking basically and 1 of the reasons is because that's how you meet people. Sports bars are the best, it's so easy to start a conversation about the game and go from there. Also Irish pubs with TVs tend to have a lot of foreigners who are just as eager to start a conversation.

            I'm not really into nature or museums and shit like that but even if I was, I don't see how doing that alone would be any fun. There is really nothing wrong with you not seeing the point of travelling. I don't either except when I go to like a football match in England or something like that. Even the fun conversations that I have and people that I meet just last for 1 night.

            To be fair, your problem can also definitely in part be where you are going. I just came back from a trip to Belfast and the locals are so outgoing and friendly there.

            Also protip: I tend to have headphones on pretty much whenever I'm out the door, because I don't know anyone and I'm autistic. On holidays I don't do this and suddenly you meet people and stuff happens. I really should stop listening to music in my own city too.

            I don't think travelling is the best way to meet people though, not BFFs anyway. Not that I have friends but still.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm in the same boat OP, never could connect with people, lots of social anxiety, had a couple of friends in high school that I lost contact with pretty quickly. It's been basically 10 years since I had a friend, so outside of parents and a little bit of small talk at my part time job there's very little social interaction going on.

        For me, travelling is best when I'm on my own. There's no people I have to try and fail to entertain, no having to think of things to say or do. It does get lonely sometimes though, particularly when sitting down to eat at a restaurant, usually I pull out a book or browse the chans on my phone. I dislike tourist hordes, so if I can go off by myself, climbing and hiking off the main trails, I'll do that. I'm big into history and I love travelling to see ancient sites, and I do spend a lot of time reading about ancient history when I'm at home. It hits different when you've been to those places and can picture the landscape and geography in your head, or even recognize specific buildings or monuments - you connect to these otherwise abstract events in a whole other way.

        I have a habit of getting addicted to everything I try, I was an alcoholic for a couple of years, so I think I'm gonna steer clear of hard drugs.
        [...]
        >I know party hostels are a thing, but do they have..... X niche activity hostels, I guess you could call them?
        God that would be awesome. From a quick google search it seems climbing hostels are an actual thing. It has never occured to me to even google it, but this might be something to actually try.
        >I'd look into 'cognitive restructuring'.
        This is good advice, thanks.
        >From reading your posts you'll express a desire then make up some excuse as to why it probably won't work out.
        You got me there lol. It's important to note that my negative assumptions are based on actual experience though. I'm not exaggerating when I say I've tried to make friends, both platonic and romantic, at every single trip I've ever been on, without a single positive result. Actually, literally zero. But I appreciate what you say, and I'm working on being a more kind and optimistic person. I don't want it to be over, despite everything I still have some hope it'll all work out. Thanks for a helpful and motivating post Anon, especially the part about niche activity hostels. Maybe trying to fit in with the normies when I'm obviously not a normie has been the problem all along.

        I'll just drop a suggestion; head to Jordan and Wadi Rum, you stay in a huge desert with towering mountains all around. They are absolutely perfect for climbing, and it's very easy to organize a climbing/hiking tour at basically whatever difficulty or duration you want. I went by myself and wandered a huge loop through the desert, did some very basic solo climbing. It was great fun, expect for the communal tent experience where I slept.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I have the same experience. I wish I had your mindset and could enjoy my own company.
          >I'll just drop a suggestion; head to Jordan and Wadi Rum
          I've actually been to Wadi Rum, amazing place. That was before I was into climbing, but I can only imagine the possibilities there. Would you mind sharing where you went or some photos of the trip?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Each morning I got up while it was still dark and climbed up one of the local peaks to catch the sunrise before going back to camp for breakfast. The rocks are like a layered cake, you can always manage to scramble up a level and then walk along the rim to find a new spot to climb, and there's always some new higher section you can reach when you get onto a plateau. Getting back down took me at least twice as long as climbing up, because of sheer drops and dead ends.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              If you remember wadi rum village and how it is sort of nestled in the shade of a huge mountain - that mountain has a lot of different trails and canyons running across it. I hitchhiked with a van that was dropping people off in the village in the morning, and got them to let me out a bit before. Then I walked along that mountain but on the other side, very little sign of people or cars, could almost imagine myself being alone in the desert.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I have recently gotten into climbing, and I want to expand that to actual mountain climbing outdoors

        Pursue this. I'm doing an extended international climbing trip as a solo traveller and I've found it easy to meet people and make connections this way. Climbing requires two people so it's easy to partner up with other solo climbers, and many times groups form as well. Having a shared interest at the start helps a lot too. Sport climbing is easy to learn and will open up a lot of options.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Climbing is an incredible hobby that can become a lifestyle. The people are great. Wild, autistic, some moronic. The danger and commitment inevitably keeps normies away. There are climbing routes all over the world.

          You need to commit to something. As they say, wherever you go, there you are. Traveling may be a temporary fix, but everyone always goes home eventually. Might as well be your best self at home and abroad.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          How do you learn? Do you need a partner to climb with? I've thought about going to some of the mountains near me to find some cool spots and give it a shot.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >How do you learn?

            I was broke/cheap when I learned so I found partners on the forums on MountainProject and learned from them. It would be best to hire a guide for a day and learn the basics first though. Are you already climbing indoors? If so, check for a gym-to-crag program. If you can lead belay and lead climb indoors you already are 90% of the way there. If your local mountains have bolted routes then it's quite simple to learn. Traditional climbing on gear requires a lot more technical skill and is riskier. Most start with sport climbing and some move on to trad.

            > Do you need a partner to climb with?

            Yes, generally. Unless it is just a scramble (effectively steep hiking) then you will need to be on a rope and will need someone on the other end of the rope belaying you. Shorter cliffs with walk-up top access can be safely climbed alone using a technique called top rope soloing. And I suppose you could go bouldering alone too but I don't know much about that.

            Climbing is one of the only ways I make friends and meet women as a grown adult, so I wouldn't suggest finding ways to do it alone. Get yourself a climbing buddy, we're mostly alright.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Look at it this way. You can either be lonely in your room doing nothing or lonely doing something cool and maybe getting something out of it.

    • 5 months ago
      Cult of Passion

      Utterly insane.

    • 5 months ago
      Dylan

      >It sounds like you are constantly giving off vibes that make people slightly uncomfortable
      Because he probably runs into people like you who act all judgey all the time

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Some of you deserved to be shamed. Bullying works.

        • 5 months ago
          Dylan

          This isn't about bullying genius.

          >let's make an onioncord server to group onionsoy fricks so they can wallow in their own piss and cum and be all wahh muh life muh no gf muh depression in a cesspit full of gays
          where do you people get these horrible ideas holy frick
          have a nice day out of the internet

          Really weird that you would get so triggered over a Discord group that you would never participate in anyway.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      least autistic /LULZ/ user

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you have any niche interests? Maybe there are festivals or conferences that cater to them. Temple stays or meditation retreat alternatively just to change it up a bit?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Temple stays or meditation retreats
      do they have things similar but for 'extreme sports'? I've been getting into them recently (rock climbing, snowboarding, both of which I've tried, and I'd like to try surfing) but problem is I have no buddies to go with. I know party hostels are a thing, but do they have..... X niche activity hostels, I guess you could call them? So one could partake in the desired activity as well as make friends?

      >It sounds like you are constantly giving off vibes that make people slightly uncomfortable
      Yeah, that's been my theory too. I'm short and quite ugly (big underbite), so I guess people just subconsciously don't want to spend time with me.
      [...]
      I have recently gotten into climbing, and I want to expand that to actual mountain climbing outdoors, which was the goal of my next summer trip, but I don't know. I think I'd run into the same problem there, with my feelings of loneliness putting a huge damper on an otherwise enjoyable acticity. Also climbing is not really something normal people do solo, so I'm back at square one again. Same with festivals, I love music but I don't think I'd enjoy just being there by myself. Also my social anxiety would probably stop me from letting loose and dance to the music in the first place. Meditation retreats and such isn't really my cup of tea and I don't think I'd enjoy that even at the best of times.

      I'm not a shrink but I'd look into 'cognitive restructuring'. From reading your posts you'll express a desire then make up some excuse as to why it probably won't work out. I think you have really negative thought patterns leading to catastrophic and pessimistic thinking. People are probably picking up on this melancholy, 'bad vibes', which is probably why you have a hard time making friends. Being upbeat, kind, down to earth, and playful are what contribute most to likeability. You should work on being more optimistic

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't bother OP, I've had similar experiences and similar results.
    Traveling has become yet another commodity for the bourgeois to show status by posting pictures on Instagram about their trips to tourist traps.
    You're not going to get authentic experiences you're seeking by traveling alone.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    In the same boat, covid killed my passion for travel. It was the only thing in my life that was worth doing and now they've taken even that away from me

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Never forget what they took from you

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm just worried if I travel again that I won't enjoy it, and it will ruin the memories I have of travelling.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same. Have not done anything since 2019. Have to make sure I get my life together before I'm 30 now since covid fricked up many things. Still finishing off school have 2 full time semesters and finally have some freedom again. Although going in my late 20s is not going to be the same as it was when I was 20...

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Although going in my late 20s is not going to be the same as it was when I was 20...
        Why not? Sounds like an arbitrary and stupid meme.

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have had very similar experience as you OP. solo travel is nice in that you can set your own agenda and change plans on a whim but it feels extremely hollow without someone meaningful to share it with. strangers don't really cut it.

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ultimately, there are lots of people willing to meet people on holidays and spend some time with them but they have no intention of making a long term friend.

    It's not on you, it's just lots of people treat holidays as a break from their lives in all aspects.

    There are cruise programs that will pair you up as a solo traveller with people it thinks have similar interests. Likewise there are couples (most often serial cruisers) who'll actively seek out solo travellers and strike up conversation with them, go on tours with them etc.

    Lastly... I'm guessing you're not active on social media. get active, add cousins, aunts mutual friends etc. you'll get people reading your holiday posts, reacting, etc. Heck, find a busy travel forum and post trips on there, talk to them about planning (either your holiday or someone else trying what you've done).

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hi, OP.
      I can relate with many things you are felling now. I am old (38) and I am lonely (lonely for my entire life) and lost all my wish to travel, or doing any other thing.
      I have 4 weeks vacation next January and since September I have been oping maps and seeing shit about traveling and I can decide any place to go - or if I should go.
      Last time I have a place I wanted to go was in 2016. I forced myself to travel again in 2019 and I didn't enjoy. If it wasn't for a person I have meet and talked for hours, it would have been a waste of time and money.
      The thing I like more in my travels is meeting people, but getting older became harder every year to meet people and even harder to make connections. And this time - if I travel at all - I won't be staying in hostels.

      >social media
      I am tired of pretending to be happy for people who don't care if I am happy and I don't care about their parties, relationships, gym routine and fake happiness at all.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly I'm kind of in the same situation, I'm 33 as well. I have done most of the touristy locations, have zero friends and only had one relationship (Asian woman) for 2 years when I was 21. I have pulled a few women (always Asian) as I am blessed with a good looking face and fit. However I am a huge awkward sperg with severe anxiety and people go off me fast

    Now I am only visiting Asia to find a gf. Honestly for people like you and me it's our only hope of not dying lonely

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Your whole life is ruined because you won't take a 10mg pill of Lexapro once a day.

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Goal was to hike through Rakabat canyon, it starts like a wedge into that huge mountain and gets gradually narrower. Had asked the bedouins before hand, and they said to follow the stacks of stones. Lots of climbing up and exploring side valleys.

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      At one point the stacks of stones pointed me into a narrower canyon with some very steep climbs to proceed. You can see more stacks in the bottom of the ravine, I got a couple of meters down, but didn't want to risk sliding the last several meters down to the bottom, and maybe losing my grip or not being able to get back up.

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Would have been a lot of fun to go further though. If I'm ever in that area again I'll definitely revisit - maybe from the village side as that seems to be a more natural/better marked path.

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I retraced my steps and then walked straight across the desert to the next set of mountains, for an easier path that involved a bit of climbing and a bit of crawling underneath huge rocks.

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Went around and picked flowers, which I did in Wadi Musa too. I have a book on the crusades filled with mountain/desert flowers

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I have a book on the crusades filled with mountain/desert flowers
      Which one? Nice pics btw

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Crusades: The Authoritative History of the War for the Holy Land by Thomas Asbridge. He's a decent historian and a good storyteller. If you're interested he's got a book that focuses on the First Crusade specifically, with lots of diary-entries and first-hand accounts woven into the narrative, it's absolutely fantastic in my opinion..

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Also found a dead moose in the desert, must have been quite the effort to bring it all the way to Jordan

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is the approximate path I took, spent the entire day and well above 50000 steps. It was a fun and memorable experience, would recommend.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks for the trip report Anon, really enjoyed the pics. I'll bookmark this in case I'm ever down there again.

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >depression and anxiety
    Stop obsessing over yourself, fool. You are nothing; only your actions matter.
    >I don't have any friends or gf to travel with
    You made a choice to throw away the people you once had. Then you b***h and moan and beat yourself up over the consequences of your decision. Tough shit. You have the freedom to do anything, but nothing fires those reward circuits in your brain. Such is the reality of being a lonely wanderer.
    >it's not like I haven't tried
    You expect a massive dopamine dump from meeting people, but it doesn't happen, because nobody is as intensely interested in you as you want them to be...so you return to your self-obsessed depression/anxiety.
    >spending a whole lot of money
    That is your decision. Stop pretending like living on the move automatically involves spending more money than living at "home". It doesn't, especially if you travel to Third World countries.
    >stories no one wants to listen to
    Yep, because you remain maniacally self-obsessed when you recount your travel adventures. Everything has to revolve around (You). God, you are such an overgrown baby. Has 15 years of adulthood taught you nothing?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I do wonder at times if I am self obsessed when I speak or reply and if that is the cause why people around me feel off whenever I try to connect to them.

      Also there is a literal chimp making insane noises next to me.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      how do people this social manage to stick around places like this? As someone who just wants to enjoy himself and views social interaction interaction negativley, has social anxiety and like 5% of the time can handle interactions well and will act extroverted for an hours before I crash, traveling around Japan alone just makes me happy, I like moving from place to place and just enjoying the moment, outside of the delicing US its just nice to be in a place where love and care is put into every places and neibhorhoods and having everything spaced out that you can just walk through it all and enjoy it, I never think how it would be better if I was with someone, I`m traveling for the sake of going from one place I enjoy to another place I enjoy, and enjoy the solitude, the idea something only has value if you can show it to someone else makes me wonder if you are incapable of viewing through the world through only a non-social lens, meaning valuing the beauty of objects and life not just lives of creatures

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not a loner myself, so I can't relate to OP or anyone else with social issues or anxieties, but I've also travelled around Japan solo a handful of times and always had a great time doing so. It definitely helps that being solo is rather common and accepted in Japan, so doing something like eating alone doesn't feel too awkward.

        Outside of visiting family and friends for a day or two I'm pretty much on my own the entire time. Granted that I do sometimes feel lonely, like wishing I could share the experience with family or friends, but ultimately I always remind myself that my time here on earth is short so I should try to enjoy myself and appreciate the fact that I have freedom and means to travel while I still can.

  22. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    watch vagrant holiday

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      nice, seconded

  23. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds like someone needs to work on themselves first. Go to the gym and get ripped until people can see you're muscular with clothes on. They will respect you and want to be your friend.

  24. 6 months ago
    .

    im like you but older and less extraverted. tried doing the travel thing too. just walked around new places alone and talked to no one. seeing a famous thing irl alone and snapping a shitty photo of it while all around you are traveling couples and families.

  25. 6 months ago
    .

    im like you but older and less extraverted. tried doing the travel thing too. just walked around new places alone and talked to no one. seeing a famous thing irl alone and snapping a shitty photo of it while all around you are traveling couples and families.

  26. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Has anyone tried to use Reddit with any success? Yes I know it's fricking Reddit, but still. I feel places like MakeNewFriendsHere would be worth a shot for chronic loners. Maybe there even are other subreddits specifically for meeting people while on travel or other niche interests that has been mentioned ITT.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know why you'd ever want to meet a redditor IRL.
      The smell alone.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Traveling solo in Tokyo I met some redditors from the JapanTravel meetups thread. Ended up being very chill dudes and really enhanced the trip having people to do things with

  27. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is why you should be married by 25. You'll serve as an example to others.

    For you it's time to repent, go to church, and find a wife that will travel with you.

  28. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I askbyou, why do you think that traveling alone somewhere to visit historical places or have fun alone wouldn't be worth it? Do you have to share everything that happens to you with someone else for it to be worth it?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      He didn't want to have such joy but he just wanted to distract himself by traaaaveling

  29. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bump

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      For what? This isn't a safe haven for maladjusted losers.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes it is

        For me its hard to find people worth hanging out with or connecting with that are able to have open minded conversation thats sometimes intelligent
        And also just be down for whatever
        I also struggle with finding people that enjoy my perverted fricked up sense of humor
        Its hard to find ride or die homies and hoes, especially if your start revealing your power level

  30. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Been really depressed for a few years. Never really got to travel since I've been a poorgay/couldnt spare my money on travel because of tuition and low paying jobs and rent and all that. Got a new job so I figure I'm going to do something new instead of wallowing in sadness as per usual. Tomorrow I have a flight to another city in another state for a few days. Any advice? Doing this because I figure I cant be sad forever and trying new things would be nice.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Try out new foods and write down what you think of them in a journal.

  31. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone these days is antisocial.
    Like why do people feel the need to declare they are a le introverted loner. That is 90% of people < 25.
    I for one enjoy being on my own because social media not only killed everyone's social skills but turned them into rampant narcissists as well.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Speak for yourself dude. When you make sweeping generalizations like that it just gives away your overall lack of life experience.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah. I'm not a zoomer. I managed to see massive changes in people's behavior as technology sweeped in. When social media took over people stopped acting like humans.
        I remember backpacking when I was 20, it was far easier to get along with people late 20s/early 30s than people my own age. They would be 35+ now. Can't enjoy the moment because half of the morons my own age would be pulling out their phones to broadcast their Instagram stories to the whole world. That's the main reason people even travel these days, it's not to make memories or have valuable life experiences, it's to take fricking photos and brag on Instagram to your internet friends.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Honestly man you just sound bitter for no real reason. I'm 32, been to around 50 countries by this point due to leisure and career. What you're describing does happen, but I still manage to find genuine people in every location I've been to. Dunno if you've ever heard the expression "hunt the good stuff" but it's worth looking into it.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I thought you said you weren't a zoomer

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Man I don't know, everybody who says they are antisocial actually have friends and such, they just prefer sticking their faces into screens.

      Makes life actually harder for real loners tho. Just like OP I lost any reason to travel now, but I also don't have anything else to my life too, a cruel dilemma.

  32. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    im in bangkok right now and I haven't even talked to anyone outside of buying food in two weeks. it doesn't have to be amazing, it just has to be better than being at home. the last time i was here was with my ex. i enjoy both times for different reasons

  33. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm traveling alone in Japan and it's been a great time. My friend couldn't come but all he wanted to do was coom, probably woulda ruined the trip for me. I guess you probably want a gf to travel with, just get a gf I guess

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I went to Japan with my wife and she really ruins everything for me. The best times were the mornings and evenings that I went out alone. She's literally not interested in doing anything. Her feet hurt after 2 hours of being outside. Why did she even want to go to Japan so much? Food. That's literally it. And she is fricking bad in picking a place to eat. She finds places far away that are obvious tourist traps that pay Google maps to bump them up, and the lines for those restaurants are so big that they're sold out for the rest of the day if you arrive 10 minutes after opening time. She refuses to eat at takeout places because it's beneath her or little places without the lines, because "if they were good, there would be lines and I want to eat real Japanese food". She refuses to take the bus in Kyoto. She refuses to take the Tokyo subway if it's not empty, despite being faster than taxi. This absolute moron spent 200 dollars on Uber eats in one day from like 5 different places and they were all shit. I didn't even spend 200 a week on food and I ate really good. I really fricking hate her when we go on vacations. But more than that, I hate that our society has made it so easy for women to make money just because ~~*they*~~ know that all women are dumb consoomers.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Damn I'd be heading to the suicide forest

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        How fat is your wife?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          She's not. Bmi of 24. Her body is good enough for me to stay with her.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Damn bro, it sounds like you don't love her at all. Sad.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Apart from basedjak type dudes who simp unambiguously, I have yet to talk to a man who has zero gripes with his woman.
          Everyone gets annoying at times. Hell, women even get annoyed if you’re “too perfect”.
          Doesn’t mean you don’t love ‘em or vice versa. You never been annoyed with your mom?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Damn bro, it sounds like you don't love her at all. Sad.
          nah, that's what he fell for her wife. he knows it. she knows it too. that's why she keeps being a moron and he secretly enjoys it and he bullies her for that stupid shits and she secretly enjoys that daddy's bad girl session and he knows it too.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        My gf is the exact opposite lmao. Can never stop walking to the most remote shit possible because there might be some nice view and ends up injured after a few weeks.
        Hates crowds so only eat in rundown local mini restaurants in dark alleys or picnic on a bench.
        Only feels good in very small villages of 300 pop max. Can stay weeks in small islands where people are all 70 years old.
        Hates spending money so only sleep in shitty hostels or airbnb rooms, eat from supermarket or cook rice whenever possible.

        Then when I want to get into a big city she tells me it's a waste of time and after 1 day says we need to move from this place because she saw a nice mountain to climb and we only need to take 3 busses and hitchhike for 20 km to reach it.
        I love that it makes me go out of my comfort zone but sometimes I just want a McDonald's and take a taxi back to an hotel like normal people.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Better than sitting at home 24/7 tbh and she aint got no spending problem

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Damn, based women still exists. Thanks for giving me hope bro. Put a ring on that ASAP

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fricking leave her, bro, that sounds miserable. I'll never understand why people get married.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/svNz1Mm.jpg

        My gf is the exact opposite lmao. Can never stop walking to the most remote shit possible because there might be some nice view and ends up injured after a few weeks.
        Hates crowds so only eat in rundown local mini restaurants in dark alleys or picnic on a bench.
        Only feels good in very small villages of 300 pop max. Can stay weeks in small islands where people are all 70 years old.
        Hates spending money so only sleep in shitty hostels or airbnb rooms, eat from supermarket or cook rice whenever possible.

        Then when I want to get into a big city she tells me it's a waste of time and after 1 day says we need to move from this place because she saw a nice mountain to climb and we only need to take 3 busses and hitchhike for 20 km to reach it.
        I love that it makes me go out of my comfort zone but sometimes I just want a McDonald's and take a taxi back to an hotel like normal people.

        Man, hearing experiences like these make me really appreciate how my family and friends never acted like a selfish ass during our trips. Worst case scenario, we would simply just split off for a bit if we want to do different things.

  34. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP you are too concerned with what was and what is to be.

    None of it matters.

    Stop asking for bad advice from internet strangers and do what your gut feeling tells you to do.

  35. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Get a doggo.

  36. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Better to ask yourself, is there any point in NOT travelling for the chronically lonely? Why stay in the same place and succumb to inescapable boredom and compulsive behavior? Visiting new places every few days requires action and awareness of your surroundings, stimulation which helps counteract depression. The ordeals of travel help you enjoy the basic things like finding a nice budget room when you're tired and eating tasty food when you're hungry. The best part, it costs no more to travel in much of the world than it does to mope alone in your rental apartment in Bumfrick, USA and order delivery every evening. You can use personal safety as a valid excuse to be anti-social to those who approach you as friends, while sharing a few good vibes with those who prepare your food. If food doesn't make you happy, you were not hungry enough. Also, travel as pursuit of knowledge through observation is a way to escape inward self-obsession. Dispassionate isolation from the general human experience can enable you to become an extraordinarily astute observer of human behavior in its limitless variations and foibles in countries where human life is public. Travel is a lot more than drawing lines on a map.

  37. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    You sound exactly like me but I’m 34. I’d recommend not receding from life and to still do things like road trips. I’ve become pretty agoraphobic over the last couple years and it was largely because I’d just stay in my apartment all day which became a habit that I couldn’t break.

  38. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Should make a discord server for loner SighSee anons with all the people itt like OP

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >let's make an onioncord server to group onionsoy fricks so they can wallow in their own piss and cum and be all wahh muh life muh no gf muh depression in a cesspit full of gays
      where do you people get these horrible ideas holy frick
      have a nice day out of the internet

  39. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a mid twenties american and idk what to do
    I plan to take a month off work around february since I am sick of this place
    Idk where to go
    I've been on a very harmful spree of self destruction lately and just need to get out of here. I don't really have any friends anymore. I no longer have a serious gf. I may go to europe but what do I do? I've never travelled by myself before and have never left the country. Budget is whatever it needs to be since my location is already expensive to travel from.

  40. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I recently came back from a 3 week trip to SEA alone, had the best time of my life (Didnt do whoring or drinking btw).

    Maybe you just have the wrong attitude

  41. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    This thread was way wholesome, I hope you find what works for you OP.

    Personally I love solo travel, eating what I want, when I want , where I want.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >eating what I want, when I want , where I want.
      that just means I'm eating cheetos in my hotel bed by myself. What, you actually sit in a restaurant by yourself spending 50 bucks on a meal?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not the last poster, but yes that's exactly what you do. Solo travelled around Japan many times and ate alone at restaurants without any issues.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          to be fair, that would be the only country where that would feel a bit more normal since everyone is alone there

  42. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You are just literally me, but I'm 24 yo and never go outside my country.
    I hope both find good frens some day.

  43. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Make a Couchsurfing profile, included cool photos, and interests. Mention you enjoy chilling, vibing or drinking beers. Fire up the Couchsurfing App, 'hang out now', done. Do this ideally in a touristy city.

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