when I travel, most of what I bring is basic sets of clothes. are you "backpacking" a hiking trail? who the frick with half a brain carries all that fancy gear on the street in the third world?
I used to believe in the "travel light" meme, but I quit after I realized it wasn't for me.
There are really only two cases where lightweight travel is important: >1) If you're constantly on the move (you're doing hiking, or just a shit-ton of walking and never staying in one place for more than one night) >2) If you're flying with a turbo-israelite airline that actually weighs your bags and charges you accordingly
I soon realized neither of these scenarios applied to me. I do like to change locations when I travel, but I like to give myself a few days in each location. While I'm outside, my bags can stay in my room. I only have to worry about lugging them around when it's time to move onto the next spot.
I also generally fly with major airlines, and they rarely weigh my carry-on. If I ever have any bags to check, that's usually included in the airfare, or they just don't bother charging for it.
Another thing I disliked about lightweight traveling is that it often encourages synthetic lightweight clothing. Turns out I really hate wearing synthetic fibers. Give me cotton shirts and cotton underpants any day, even if they weigh more.
>At what point does trying to lighten the weight of your backpack go from practical to full blown autism?
At what point does bringing all your shit become full blown crippling OCD?
A 35L bag will easily hold:
- 3 pants
- 3 t-shirts
- 1 shirt
- 3 pair of socks
- 6 boxers
- 2 shorts (one for bathing)
- 1 towel
- 1 waterproof windjacket
- Toothbrush & toothpaste
- Deodorant
- Electric shaver
- Powerbank
- USB charger
- Travel plug
- Convertible surfpad
- Small flashlight
- Clothesline
- Mosquito net
- Tote bag
- Miscellaneous
... and still get you under 7 kgs. That's enough clothes to last you a week if you change every other day and if you find yourself needing something, then just set aside a budget of a few hundred bucks and buy it on the location. Why bring extra shit?
>There are really only two cases
3) If your accommodation isn't in the city, for example a remote beach bungalow resort or a farm or in rural province, and you have to get there via a combination of taxis, buses and motorbikes.
>Another thing I disliked about lightweight traveling is that it often encourages synthetic lightweight clothing
Not at all. All my clothing is either cotton or merino wool. The only synthetic is my windjacket and haven't really checked what my underwear and socks are made of.
The older I get, the more I pack because I’m unwilling to compromise on comfortability and convenience. Right now I’m at 2 full suitcases if I’ll be gone for 2+ weeks
>The older I get, the more I pack because I’m unwilling to compromise on comfortability and convenience
That's curious. The opposite is true for me. My first trips I was carrying something ridiculous like 20+ kgs and then as I got more comfortable with travelling I didn't need a bunch of comfort objects like a toddler, but opted for the convenience of not lugging around useless shit.
why do you guys never mention weight? How much does your backpack weigh? That's all info that's relevant. I don't care what you carry inside.
I've gone from 7kg to 5kg recently. Started with 12kg when I first travelled.
>I've gone from 7kg to 5kg recently
Don't think I could do 5 kg without leaving some electric gadgetry, but I'm right under 7 kg and that's right around where backpacks start becoming uncomfortable without a hip belt, imho.
>opted for the convenience of not lugging around useless shit.
That's the thing. When I was younger I would move around a lot more so packing light made sense. Now that I'm older and travel at a slower and more comfortable pace, I'll just stay in 1 hotel for a minimum of 7 days to explore an area, so having 1, 2, or 3 suitcases makes no difference to me. The only time I touch them is when I take them off the conveyor belt at the airport. Other than that there's either a taxi driver or a hotel employee who gets to lift and move them around
>I'll just stay in 1 hotel for a minimum of 7 days to explore an area, so having 1, 2, or 3 suitcases makes no difference to me. The only time I touch them is when I take them off the conveyor belt at the airport
So then you're not actually travelling as much as you are visiting a tourist resort in a foreign country?
I'm 44 btw, so also "older" I guess, and another reason why my travel habits have changed is because I don't travel to maximize my cooming and once you've seen one tourist resort you've pretty much seen them all, so I try to look for places away from tourism where I can relax and hang out with the locals and other part time or full time expats. That usually includes Airbnbs and sometimes even hostels and going on the hunt for cheap condos and apartments for longer stays.
Sometimes you book a place and it looks nice on the pictures but then you arrive and realize it's infested with 4 cm wienerroaches or that there's places where exotic looking spiders can crawl in and seek shelter from the rain season or that it has a strong smell of mold or that the bed is spotted with blood from all the bedbug bites, and then you just have to grab your bag and leave and find another place and if you have 2, 3 suitcases then a bad time just turned into a nightmare.
>lmao >looooool >kek >rofl >tee hee
If I was your long gone dad I would've taken you out back and put a bullet to your head as a mercy kill. I've flushed down cum wipes with more fulfilled potential than you.
I stay in cities and take daytrips if there’s anything worth seeing outside of the city I’m in. Traveling doesn’t mean I have to go to a new place every other day. Like I wrote earlier I’m not willing to compromise on comfortability so I dont stay in hostels or airbnbs. Only 5 star hotels, so roaches and other uncomfortable surprises has never been an issue
some people are incapable of putting themselves in other peoples shoes. in that guys head everyone has the same worries, priorities, needs and financial means as him, and anything outside of that just doesnt register with him
some people are incapable of putting themselves in other peoples shoes. in that guys head everyone has the same worries, priorities, needs and financial means as him, and anything outside of that just doesnt register with him
Don't you nerds have a little brother or sister you can pester? Trolling the travel board is so lame even incel NEETs should be ashamed of themselves.
When I travel to relax in one or two locations or when there isn't much uncertainty and walking involved, I take more with me as well. Laptop and a book or two, for example.
When I travel for the sake of being on the move and enjoying the road trips / hitchhiking / when there's a lot of uncertainty and potentially a lot of walking even if you're not really travelling to hike (central asia), then I only pack clothes, my phone + charger, powerbank, sunglasses, wallet, toiletries.
For me, the soft limit is being able to carry everything in a daypack. That's where I'm at right now, and it allows me to use whatever form of transport and sleep wherever I want.
The hard limit is when you're bringing just what's in your pockets. At that point you aren't any better off than having the daypack, plus you look like a buffoon stuffing your pockets and stinking up places and having TSA constantly questioning you on why you're giving them zero reason to lovingly finger your anal cavity. I say this only because I do travel lighter than a daypack sometimes (usually only on domestic flights) and I do feel like I'm depriving myself of conveniences just for the sake of near-weightlessness.
I compromise by wearing a cotton-blend shirt or another natural fiber since I'm sensitive about my nips. I care less about the material wrapping my legs and feet so I save weight there. Plus, if you're walking a lot, it makes sense to try to optimize "stride weight" or whatever you want to conceptualize it as--your legs move way more than your torso.
why do you guys never mention weight? How much does your backpack weigh? That's all info that's relevant. I don't care what you carry inside.
I've gone from 7kg to 5kg recently. Started with 12kg when I first travelled.
Yeah I don't get why people fail to mention weight, I think it's way more important than volume. Ultralight hikers base most of their considerations off of weight and they do this for fun. Some other measures I think people should consider: >days until laundry time ># of outlets your wall brick/travel adapter has (convertible to "how many separate electronic devices are you charging each night" and "likelihood of tripping breaker and getting couchsurfing/Airbnb host mad at you") >3-1-1 bell curve (on the high end, instathots who use every trick in the book to bring their entire bathroom sink counter; on the low end, stinky hippies who object to the use of plastic ziplocks)
there needs to be a balance. good to try as a fun experiment as an overnight/weekend away thing, but ultimately you're better off taking some of the lessons learned from that, then packing for convenience.
ultimately, nobody else cares how you travel, why is it made out to be some sort of contest?
This. Looking at OP's pic, I can think of at least 10 items I could easily do without in my travels. I'm sure it's just a random pic that OP found on Google, but if that's actually meant to be some blogger's lightweight configuration, it's flawed.
The older I get, the more I pack because I’m unwilling to compromise on comfortability and convenience. Right now I’m at 2 full suitcases if I’ll be gone for 2+ weeks
lel I'm a fat frick so all my clothes are bigger. I could never jam a denim shirt in a pouch that size. I don't see the need to pack light anyway, I try not to use airplanes and on trains you can bring whatever the frick you want.
lmao why do all the people investing in special light gear immediately bloat it back up by stuffing it with a bunch of useless shit?
everything circled in red is pure bloat and that's being generous and letting him keep stuff like a paper notebook and third screen ereader
also frick all those extra pouches and sleeves for every single item
shrug
Just finished packing my suitcase for tomorrow. Made sure to pack my essentials, such as 50 of the finest Twining's English Breakfast tea bags, a few different hats to suit the occasion, 2 of my favourite body sprays, and of course, enough socks and shirts to have a fresh one for each day. Really going to struggle to get this 9kg suitcase across an airport conveyor belt and into a taxi/train right to my prime location hotels.
Anyway, keep larping, not every trip is the fricking Appalachian trail where it would actually matter
when I travel, most of what I bring is basic sets of clothes. are you "backpacking" a hiking trail? who the frick with half a brain carries all that fancy gear on the street in the third world?
Other than the clothes and sunglasses everything on that picture is unecessary.
Jezzz
I used to believe in the "travel light" meme, but I quit after I realized it wasn't for me.
There are really only two cases where lightweight travel is important:
>1) If you're constantly on the move (you're doing hiking, or just a shit-ton of walking and never staying in one place for more than one night)
>2) If you're flying with a turbo-israelite airline that actually weighs your bags and charges you accordingly
I soon realized neither of these scenarios applied to me. I do like to change locations when I travel, but I like to give myself a few days in each location. While I'm outside, my bags can stay in my room. I only have to worry about lugging them around when it's time to move onto the next spot.
I also generally fly with major airlines, and they rarely weigh my carry-on. If I ever have any bags to check, that's usually included in the airfare, or they just don't bother charging for it.
Another thing I disliked about lightweight traveling is that it often encourages synthetic lightweight clothing. Turns out I really hate wearing synthetic fibers. Give me cotton shirts and cotton underpants any day, even if they weigh more.
>At what point does trying to lighten the weight of your backpack go from practical to full blown autism?
At what point does bringing all your shit become full blown crippling OCD?
A 35L bag will easily hold:
- 3 pants
- 3 t-shirts
- 1 shirt
- 3 pair of socks
- 6 boxers
- 2 shorts (one for bathing)
- 1 towel
- 1 waterproof windjacket
- Toothbrush & toothpaste
- Deodorant
- Electric shaver
- Powerbank
- USB charger
- Travel plug
- Convertible surfpad
- Small flashlight
- Clothesline
- Mosquito net
- Tote bag
- Miscellaneous
... and still get you under 7 kgs. That's enough clothes to last you a week if you change every other day and if you find yourself needing something, then just set aside a budget of a few hundred bucks and buy it on the location. Why bring extra shit?
>There are really only two cases
3) If your accommodation isn't in the city, for example a remote beach bungalow resort or a farm or in rural province, and you have to get there via a combination of taxis, buses and motorbikes.
>Another thing I disliked about lightweight traveling is that it often encourages synthetic lightweight clothing
Not at all. All my clothing is either cotton or merino wool. The only synthetic is my windjacket and haven't really checked what my underwear and socks are made of.
>The older I get, the more I pack because I’m unwilling to compromise on comfortability and convenience
That's curious. The opposite is true for me. My first trips I was carrying something ridiculous like 20+ kgs and then as I got more comfortable with travelling I didn't need a bunch of comfort objects like a toddler, but opted for the convenience of not lugging around useless shit.
>I've gone from 7kg to 5kg recently
Don't think I could do 5 kg without leaving some electric gadgetry, but I'm right under 7 kg and that's right around where backpacks start becoming uncomfortable without a hip belt, imho.
>opted for the convenience of not lugging around useless shit.
That's the thing. When I was younger I would move around a lot more so packing light made sense. Now that I'm older and travel at a slower and more comfortable pace, I'll just stay in 1 hotel for a minimum of 7 days to explore an area, so having 1, 2, or 3 suitcases makes no difference to me. The only time I touch them is when I take them off the conveyor belt at the airport. Other than that there's either a taxi driver or a hotel employee who gets to lift and move them around
>I'll just stay in 1 hotel for a minimum of 7 days to explore an area, so having 1, 2, or 3 suitcases makes no difference to me. The only time I touch them is when I take them off the conveyor belt at the airport
So then you're not actually travelling as much as you are visiting a tourist resort in a foreign country?
I'm 44 btw, so also "older" I guess, and another reason why my travel habits have changed is because I don't travel to maximize my cooming and once you've seen one tourist resort you've pretty much seen them all, so I try to look for places away from tourism where I can relax and hang out with the locals and other part time or full time expats. That usually includes Airbnbs and sometimes even hostels and going on the hunt for cheap condos and apartments for longer stays.
Sometimes you book a place and it looks nice on the pictures but then you arrive and realize it's infested with 4 cm wienerroaches or that there's places where exotic looking spiders can crawl in and seek shelter from the rain season or that it has a strong smell of mold or that the bed is spotted with blood from all the bedbug bites, and then you just have to grab your bag and leave and find another place and if you have 2, 3 suitcases then a bad time just turned into a nightmare.
lmao all those excuses for being a cheap c**t and picking shitty accommodation
You will learn once you travel for more than two weeks in one go.
>lmao
>looooool
>kek
>rofl
>tee hee
If I was your long gone dad I would've taken you out back and put a bullet to your head as a mercy kill. I've flushed down cum wipes with more fulfilled potential than you.
I stay in cities and take daytrips if there’s anything worth seeing outside of the city I’m in. Traveling doesn’t mean I have to go to a new place every other day. Like I wrote earlier I’m not willing to compromise on comfortability so I dont stay in hostels or airbnbs. Only 5 star hotels, so roaches and other uncomfortable surprises has never been an issue
Why do you have to attempt to make people feel bad because they don’t agree with your belief system?
some people are incapable of putting themselves in other peoples shoes. in that guys head everyone has the same worries, priorities, needs and financial means as him, and anything outside of that just doesnt register with him
Don't you nerds have a little brother or sister you can pester? Trolling the travel board is so lame even incel NEETs should be ashamed of themselves.
When I travel to relax in one or two locations or when there isn't much uncertainty and walking involved, I take more with me as well. Laptop and a book or two, for example.
When I travel for the sake of being on the move and enjoying the road trips / hitchhiking / when there's a lot of uncertainty and potentially a lot of walking even if you're not really travelling to hike (central asia), then I only pack clothes, my phone + charger, powerbank, sunglasses, wallet, toiletries.
Ok and I want a fresh shirt and socks every day you smelly frick
For me, the soft limit is being able to carry everything in a daypack. That's where I'm at right now, and it allows me to use whatever form of transport and sleep wherever I want.
The hard limit is when you're bringing just what's in your pockets. At that point you aren't any better off than having the daypack, plus you look like a buffoon stuffing your pockets and stinking up places and having TSA constantly questioning you on why you're giving them zero reason to lovingly finger your anal cavity. I say this only because I do travel lighter than a daypack sometimes (usually only on domestic flights) and I do feel like I'm depriving myself of conveniences just for the sake of near-weightlessness.
I compromise by wearing a cotton-blend shirt or another natural fiber since I'm sensitive about my nips. I care less about the material wrapping my legs and feet so I save weight there. Plus, if you're walking a lot, it makes sense to try to optimize "stride weight" or whatever you want to conceptualize it as--your legs move way more than your torso.
Yeah I don't get why people fail to mention weight, I think it's way more important than volume. Ultralight hikers base most of their considerations off of weight and they do this for fun. Some other measures I think people should consider:
>days until laundry time
># of outlets your wall brick/travel adapter has (convertible to "how many separate electronic devices are you charging each night" and "likelihood of tripping breaker and getting couchsurfing/Airbnb host mad at you")
>3-1-1 bell curve (on the high end, instathots who use every trick in the book to bring their entire bathroom sink counter; on the low end, stinky hippies who object to the use of plastic ziplocks)
there needs to be a balance. good to try as a fun experiment as an overnight/weekend away thing, but ultimately you're better off taking some of the lessons learned from that, then packing for convenience.
ultimately, nobody else cares how you travel, why is it made out to be some sort of contest?
Buying expensive ultralight junk < not bringing things you don't need
This. Looking at OP's pic, I can think of at least 10 items I could easily do without in my travels. I'm sure it's just a random pic that OP found on Google, but if that's actually meant to be some blogger's lightweight configuration, it's flawed.
The older I get, the more I pack because I’m unwilling to compromise on comfortability and convenience. Right now I’m at 2 full suitcases if I’ll be gone for 2+ weeks
Where's the travel plug
why do you guys never mention weight? How much does your backpack weigh? That's all info that's relevant. I don't care what you carry inside.
I've gone from 7kg to 5kg recently. Started with 12kg when I first travelled.
lel I'm a fat frick so all my clothes are bigger. I could never jam a denim shirt in a pouch that size. I don't see the need to pack light anyway, I try not to use airplanes and on trains you can bring whatever the frick you want.
lmao why do all the people investing in special light gear immediately bloat it back up by stuffing it with a bunch of useless shit?
everything circled in red is pure bloat and that's being generous and letting him keep stuff like a paper notebook and third screen ereader
also frick all those extra pouches and sleeves for every single item
If I can buy it at the location, I'm not bringing it. The exception being clothes of course.
>not flying naked for the true ultralight experience
if only I could, anon
shrug
Just finished packing my suitcase for tomorrow. Made sure to pack my essentials, such as 50 of the finest Twining's English Breakfast tea bags, a few different hats to suit the occasion, 2 of my favourite body sprays, and of course, enough socks and shirts to have a fresh one for each day. Really going to struggle to get this 9kg suitcase across an airport conveyor belt and into a taxi/train right to my prime location hotels.
Anyway, keep larping, not every trip is the fricking Appalachian trail where it would actually matter