Okay I am excited for my first America trip and people said Europeans need to be cautiois of america's size so I tried to keep things condensed. Is this a good itinerary
>Boston 5 nights
>NYC 8 nights
>Philadelphia 6 nights
>Amish country 4 Nights
>Baltimore 3 nights
>Washington DC 6 nights
>Colonial Virginia 8 nights
>Appalachian hike 2 nights
>Travel day to DC
>Fly home
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How do you plan on getting around? Railway in the Boston/NYC/Philadelphia area is... mediocre at best. I would not recommend using Greyhound busses, it's a miserable experience that I will never repeat. Renting a car is your best bet, but keep in mind that gets really expensive, especially for the long duration that you have planned out. From Jamestown, VA to NYC, NY, is about 400 miles (643km). It's definitely a doable itinerary for sure. Personally, I would trim down Virginia by a night or two, and Philadelphia by at least a night, unless you have travel time factored in already. I hope this was helpful.
>Baltimore 3 nights
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It might be longer than you need in both DC and Virginia; if you decided to make a change there I would consider moving a couple of your nights to the hike, which seems pretty quick, particularly if it’s going to take you a long time to get to your starting point and wherever you end. You may not need so many nights in Philadelphia, either. I also notice that you’re not spending any time at the shore/on beaches (although several of your cities are technically coastal), which might be worth considering. There are nice beach towns on Cape Cod to the east of Boston, and on the Maryland or Delaware coasts, among other places.
4 nights is way too many for Amish country. 1, maybe 2 is plenty.
6 nights in DC isn't necessary unless you want to run through all the museums. Mount Vernon is fun. So is the spy museum. But if you really want the history, yeah, I can see a few days. I lived in Alexandria for a bit and it's a fun little town. The subway normally isn't awful if you are in the lines towards Virginia, since lobbyists and Pentagon employees use them and stop most of the crime you'd get in NYC and Chicago.
If this is supposed to be a road trip, more than 4 nights in any one city seems like a lot to me. What are you going to do in “Amish country” for 4 nights? What sort of “Appalachian hike” are you going to achieve in 2 nights given that people take months to hike the Appalachian trail? You want my advice? Consider writing off Boston, and allocate 3-5 nights of we city, spend the rest of the time driving out to historical sites or state and national parks like Acadia, Cherry Springs, Shenandoah, etc. for day trips.
Historical sites? Oh common, OP is from Germany I am afraid 100 years old wooden shed and or the rock where Benjamin Franklin sat on, would not impress him..
OP you're spending an awful lot of time in some really mid places.
Remember in the Unites States, 100 years is a long time, there are few things older than that in the country, and 100 miles isn't very far and is a distance you can typically drive in 1.5 hours.
Consider writing off Philadelphia completely. It's been described as "the worst city in the country" by some other anons here and that's 100% true. If you go there, arrive in the morning, see the liberty bell, independence hall, etc. You can see all that in 1 day and then leave, which you will want to do.
Here's an itinerary I'd do if I were you.
>Boston 3 nights
>Cape Cod 2 nights
>NYC 4 nights
>Amish Country 2 nights
>consider Visiting Gettysburg (1 night) and Antietam (1 day, if you're REALLY into the civil war do both).
>drive through Philadelphia to Baltimore (1 night, its really ghetto)
>inner harbor Ft. Mchenry in 1 day
>Annapolis and NSA Museum (not on your list but I think you'll really like these OP), 1 night
>Washington DC 4 days MAX. In that time you can see almost all the monuments, several museums of your choice, the capitol and even have time to go outside the city to like Great Falls, VA. Almost all the stuff to see in DC is within walking distance or close to the Metro. Go to the national archives also.
>Colonial Virginia 3 days. I'm an extremely patriotic American and proud of my country but there's no way you will fill 8 days. Williamsburg, Mt. Vernon and Monticello you can all see in 1 day each and that's taking your time.
>appalachian trail 3-4 days
>consider visiting Harpers Ferry, West Virginia, site of John Browns attempted slave rebellion and a pretty site in general
Agree with this dude about the length of time you're spending in some of those places. After 8 nights in NYC, you'd be ready to fly home. After 6 nights in Philly, you'll probably be murdered.
I assume you're renting a car. Don't rent one in NYC until you leave. Traffic is hell, and it'll cost more to park it than your hotel room.
Here's a suggestion, stay 2 nights in Philly. Head out and go do a drive down the coast. Drive to Cape May and take the ferry across. Go see the eastern shore of Deleware and Maryland. Stay in Bethany beach and go kayak and do the Dogfish Head brewery. Then go down and spend 2 days in Ocean City Maryland. The ocean city Maryland boardwalk is the most American shit you'll ever see. The seafood is amazing. Eat crab cake sandwiches.
4 nights in Amish country is ludicrous. 8 days in Colonial Virginia is psychotic. You can do them both in a day.
Other shit you should do:
Harpers Ferry, go rafting
Annapolis waterfront
Old Town Alexandria
Cunningham Falls
Hershey Park
Orioles Game at Camden Yards
In Baltimore, go to Federal Hill after an Orioles game and do a bar crawl. Hit Pub Dog, Nobles, Magerks. All the bars in that area are fun. There's a lot of good food in that area. Another good place for a pub crawl is Canton. Start at Mama's On the Half Shell. The bars are all white people in Canton and in Fed Hill. Protip: don't eat anywhere in the inner harbor in that place next to the aquarium.
>Consider writing off Philadelphia completely
I disagree, although everywhere but downtown is legitimately dangerous, downtown is FILLED with little historical museums and shit, and the food is pretty nice. I wouldn't stay for a while but it's worth checking out
I know you Germans love molly and techno but don’t do that shit in the states because it has fent in it and you’ll die. Also the tap water isn’t drinkable and will make you sick, but so will all of the food. If women are turboc**ts to you don’t let it frick with you’re head they’re all like that to everyone. Don’t expect public transport to to be functional outside of NYC.
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>t. terminally online forever virgin who has never visited anywhere outside his hometown
lmao, you can tell so easily
Are you trying to make OP OD on fent? Or are you some roastie seething that I said US women are c**ty, and called me a virgin because that is the insult every woman will give any man even if he’s a porn star? I’m starting to suspect SighSee actually has female lurkers, I always assumed it was 100% male/trannies lmao
>I’m starting to suspect SighSee actually has female lurkers
Who do you think are the c**ts that immediately commence seething when anyone even politely brings up prostitution like it's a crime against humanity?
Are you American? If not you won’t know, but Americans are such simps they unironically think this way about prostitution lmao. I just assumed they were standard issue simps.
We dont have as many blacks or castles but otherwise its the same, you will find our zionist hellscale the same as yours.
>take the subway, get terrorised by feral 'locals' the whole ride there
>step in human feces on the homeless park they call the main street of the city
>get fined for walking 30 seconds on a car only road
>hotel makes up a load of shit (You) broke and automatically charges you $1k for it, no protections to even dispute it
>waiter spits in your food cause you only tipped 20%
>get shot
>$100k hospital bill just for the ambulance ride
It seems like a really unappealing place to visit these days
when you're desperate and try too hard the baits don't work.
D+ for now Europoor.
Other suggestion: rent car, drive West to mountains and enjoy nature or drive south to Florida and enjoy ocean. Our cities are such garbage. New York is cool for a day or two to see the buildings but American people really anywhere are total c**ts.
>get stopped by the police
That's not going to happen to a German guy minding his business and traveling for a couple weeks moronic schizo
Ok but this is actually something to point out. In the US any traffic stop is a potential armed confrontation in the eyes of the police and as such, you should be prepared to defuse the situation.
When approached by a police officer, remain calm, don't get out of the vehicle and keep your hands where they can see them. Don't start digging through your stuff for documents until they talk to you and ask for it then clearly state "yes sir, let me get that for you."
you guys are all forever online morons.
Less than 10 unarmed black people per year out of like 40 million get killed by cops in the USA
sucks browsing this board when everyone is larping in a basement tbh
5 nights
>>NYC 8 nights
6 nights
3 nights
DC 6 nights
day to DC
haha yikes
lol euros are so naive it's hilarious. i hope you really like Black folk OP!
Philly & DC can be really great & beautiful. It seems like this German anon has money so he'll see them, but it's unlikely for a problem will arise. I know blacks that came from Philly, & the Baltimore/DC area. Just stay in the nice parts, dont go out late at night - he'll be fine. Lots of history in some parts but he is staying too long in places like NYC. Idk what's to see in that overpriced shithole over 8 days. 2 ~ 3 days should be plenty.
No you're totally right not-schizo anon. Those traffic misdemeanor laws show that you have an accurate grasp of the situation at hand and win whatever argument you're having. Well done.
Most people visit Amish country for a day. There's very little to see and do. I would also reduce DC to just 3 or 4 days, unless you really really like war monuments and holocaust museums or something.
If you want to add some variety, I'd spend a few days in Florida.
Start in Miami Beach, rent a car and drive to orlando, then new orleans, up the Mississippi to memphis, stay in Asheville, NC, camp in WV, then DC 3 days, Philly 1 day, NY 3 days, Boston 2 days and then fly to taos, nm drive to Durango, Co, Moab, Utah, drive through southern Utah and see the grand canyon, Las Vegas, and Cali if you want
Miami and New Orleans are way cooler than NY and Boston honestly, even Orlando is really fun, DC is nice and there's a ton to do, but Appalachia is great and you should get a real road trip in, Utah, NM, and Colorado are the prettiest parts of the country imo, definitely worth driving through, and Vegas is honestly the funnest city in the whole country
>orlando is really fun
fun how? unless by orlando you mean just disney. I lived there for a few years and it was pretty boring, half the town is black/puerto rican ghetto and the rest is boomers and UCF students.
It's fine. You can frick around on i-drive and universal city walk without ever touching Disney. I'm going to assume he did mean the parks by saying Orlando though.
>fly into NYC (4 nights, 3 days)
>train to DC (3 nights 2.5 days)
>train to Philly (1 day)
>train to Atlantic City (2 nights, 1 day)
>train back to NYC (2 nights, 1.5 days)
How's this for a first time trip? I plan on doing a bunch of tourist shit and not so bothered about "Top 10 HIDDEN Gems TOURISTS don't know about". I'm not into staying up late clubbing but will probably have a few drinks in AC if they're free.
I honestly can't imagine what non Americans must think coming to cities like NYC for the first time, it's such a weird shithole, very unique but very shitty, not really similar to anything in Europe
>not into clubbing
but getting drunk at night in Manhattan is like the coolest thing to do NYC, what are your plans, like Museums and famous restaurants?
DC legitimately has a lot to do but be warned East Coast cities are legitimate shitholes, Philly is nice downtown but literally everywhere else is 3rd world and there's like no nightlife. I'd recommend you try going somewhere a little more small townsy like Jamestown, Asheville, Cooperstown, NY, Salem, Ma, Portland, Maine, big American cities are kiiiiinda really shitty.
At the same time though if you're just going for museums and historical shit DC and Philly have a lot to see in the downtown areas
Yeah I stuck with big cities for my first trip just because of the major transport links. I'd like to do a big road trip eventually.
NYC will be visiting the major museums, central park, a couple of the tall buildings and Statue of Liberty plus I have a broadway show booked. Any leftover time will just be wandering around like I've done in EU cities with the aim of visiting all 5 Boroughs.
DC is mainly seeing everything on the mall, Air and Space museum, Ford's theatre and Arlington. Any extra museums I can fit in will be a bonus.
My train arrives in Philly in the morning and I'm just going to wing it and hang about until I catch an evening train to AC.
AC is a mini taster for a potential Vegas trip plus walking the entire length of the boardwalk.
>aim of visiting all 5 Boroughs
Everything outside of Manhattan is really ghetto honestly except for little parts pf Brooklyn and staten island which is boring AF and takes a long time to get to
NYC is cool though just be cautious
>train to Atlantic City (2 nights, 1 day)
I've never been near there, but isn't Atlantic City pretty much dead these days?
>Atlantic City
Lol LMAO he’s gonna get stabbed and left on the side of a road
Yeah. AC was always terrible and it's especially bad these days. 100% skip it.
>Baltimore 3 nights
Baltimore is a dump. You can skip it. No really, it sucks.
>Colonial Virginia 8 nights
I'm originally from there and like to recommend it to people, but you don't need this much time.
You should consider revaluating your trip to spend less time in major cities and more time seeing natural beauty. You also completely skipped the West, which is a huge oversight
Staying in a black-majority area is an important experience of traveling America. The West is mostly piled rocks and open spaces, with a few extremely crowded tourist destionations.
This. I don't understand why Europeans even bother visiting US cities, they lack the culture and personality of euro cities, while also being very hard to get around in without a rental car or spending a lot on ubers. The most scenic parts of most cities here looks like the peripheries of cities in western europe.
The best the US has to offer to tourists is the unique and diverse natural areas, like the redwood forests, yellowstone, any national park in the southwest.
How dangerous are big American cities really?
i heard gunshots in my motel when i was staying in denver, and then again in reno, I saw a guy get arrested at a motel in Portland for threatening the cashier, I've never personally been mugged or assaulted, but one time a Black person in philly scammed me for weed
I'm from the Netherlands and I've never heard gun shots in my life before or seen someone get arrested even. Is this unusual for an American?
American neighborhoods with a certain demographic feature celebratory gunfire.
I’ve heard people literally get murdered about a half mile up the road when someone emptied their mag, and i’m in a “good area” suburb. The US is basically Brazil- have you ever been to Brazil? Instead of favela slums they dont allow the housing so we just get what would be favela type people just meandering on the streets living there.
Some of them are pretty bad. If you see too many chocolate faces, you know it's a dangerous place to be. I vacation exclusively wherever black people aren't. Ski resorts, National Parks, Maui, Utah, Orange County California, Destin Florida, Jackson Hole Wyoming, Sedona Arizona, Burlington Vermont.
People are playing it up. It's worse than it was 10 years ago, but it's not nearly as bad as people are making it sound
Like other people wrote. Rent a car and visit the national parks. Don't waste your time in American shit hole cities. Boring as frick and nothing to do there either. Baltimore? Why? Boston for days? Why? Forget Washington. Your plan is utter shit anon
washington DC and Boston have lots of cool areas and touristy shit to do. Baltimore is shit though yeah
There are cool areas in Baltimore. Most people don't see them. They just go to the inner harbor and eat a terrible meal at Phillips. Federal Hill, Mt Vernon and Canton are awesome bar areas. The Baltimore Museum of Art is amazing. The area around Ram's Head has a couple of awesome music venues.
Baltimore is cool as long as you never go too far east or too far west into the black areas. Don't go to the inner harbor it's ugly as frick and boring as shit. better tourist trap area is Fell's Point but I reccomend checking out Hampden, Mount Vernon and Federal Hill areas
What is the best itinerary for the East coast, starting in Boston. Doing 2 weeks with friends in September but it's an absolute mindfrick trying to organise how long in each place
General idea is
>Boston 2
>New Haven 1
>New York 3
>Philly 1
>Washington 2
>Virginia 2
>Nashville 3
This is a rough idea of our direction. Is there somewhere else we've missed that would be good. We've all been to NY before so 3 days is enough. Our friend lives in Virginia so that's a must stop. Nashville because we've heard a lot of good things about it.