Have any anons here ever been to the DPRK? It's something that's been on my bucket list, and I might do it this winter if the border is re-opened by then.
Tell me everything there is to know about this corner of the world, in terms of travel and tourism.
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Closed frontiers since covid.
Also Alejandro Cao de Benos can't go there because Spain stole his passport for 6 years.
Also if you go there I recomend going only with carry on, if i. Any of the airports (european ones for.example) some corrupt staff plants you drugs in your suitcase, chinese or north korean prisons are no joke.
there are fricked up individuals on this board who will tell you its like heaven
its a fricking potemkins village, you go with a group and they show you everything like its the best thing ever. I was happy that I was able to leave
>I was happy that I was able to leave
Tell me more about your experience.
>2 years Tel Hai Industrial Park
>1 year in Langley
>2 years Kiryat Arba Business Park
>currently first year in Lavon Industrial Park
Many such cases,
I was there in 2018. It started with a meeting in beijing where we signed a paper that we know all the risks and we won't hold the travel company accountable if anything happens. Also they tell you the rules, don't leave the group, don't talk to anyone etc. etc.
You arrive there and everything looks pretty awesome. Everyone is smiling, but you literally can't do shit. You can't go even a small step away from the group, you can't leave the hotel, you can't do anything. Every single day they tell you how great their life is, how great is is communism, how they love the leader and how bad is everything else. It is some kind of brainwashing and you feel like in some kind of a prison. The total humiliation for me was that we were forced to bow to their homosexual statue.
It cost a lot of money and I was sick to my stomach that I didn't go elsewhere for that money.
what was the most scary moment or incident during your entire stay?
Which company did you go with? When I went there it wasn't anything like that, it was far more relaxed than what you described. Are you sure you actually went and aren't just repeating what you saw in a youtube documentary?
I applied for it in hungary with a travel agency and they organized the tour with a local one
Also frick you
You sound strangely upset for somebody being asked for details about your alleged trip.
What hotel did you stay in btw?
You were being a c**t to him he has a right to snap back at you
Why did you go to North Korea expecting anything but that?
He didn't. He's just making shit up. Anyone who's actually been to DPRK knows what it's like to visit, and it's not like his meme description.
And what was it actually like to visit?
You are part of a tour group but you're not closely watched and can do stuff on your own as well up to a limit. And there is zero political talk, none of the guides will speak any propaganda to you or try to brainwash you or make you feel in a prison. To anyone who has been there, it's more than obvious that guy is just making shit up.
I went there in 2019:
- You have to jump through hoops to get it organized and you usually have to travel to China in order to enter the country.
- You basically pay thousands of dollars just to go on a brainwashing/propaganda tour where your guides are actually secret police and won't hesitate to threaten you if you do so much as point at the wrong thing with your camera (Poverty, slums, etc). They only let you film what's sanctioned by the state and anything else they consider "spying".
- The food is absolute dog shit, they take you to these state owned "restaurants" which are basically for the elites of the regime and where the kitchen is geared to service 2-3 tables at most when tourists aren't around. Everything is subpar compared to what you get back home. For example they take you to a pizza place and they brag that the chefs trained in Italy at the order of the supreme leader, but the pizza is undercooked, doughy, the sauce is sweet (Typical asian trend of throwing sugar in tomato sauces), and the cheese is low grade shit. The meats were surprisingly too salty and you quickly wonder what kind of "meat" it is to begin with.
They treat fast food items like burgers like luxury and a proof of their progress but it's basically an outsourced malaysian company serving frozen goyslop at exhorbitant prices.
The food at the hotel was inedible banchan items, everything fried from the veggies to the meats were basically cardboard.
- You can't explore on your own, you can't leave your hotel, you step away from your group just a little and the guides start freaking out as if you were a spy or something and start threatening you immediately.
- Within 2 days everyone in the group was a bit freaked out at this point and wanted to get the frick out of that place as soon as possible. We were counting the days lol.
Dunno what year you went but when we went shit was pretty tight rules wise and we did feel like we weren't allowed to do anything.
Another dumb larper who never visited the country
What ever you say you communist chink worshipping homosexual
They're not sending their best shills today, guess they must have reduced their budget after shilling the covid jabs fell off the agenda.
Nice samegayging skills homosexual, you're literally the only one here dickriding north korea and saying it's some commie paradise where you can freely take a stroll to the mall by yourself and do a vlog with locals or some shit
lmao
Nobody's dickriding North Korea, but posters on here are interested in hearing more than the usual vice-tier clickbait headlines.
So, where did you stay in Pyongyang, provided you've ever been and aren't just posting from your basement.
What is this fricking obsession with sticking your cameras everywhere? If I visited North Korea, I would not carry any electronic device during the tours.
It's the same guy. Notice how these two supposedly different posters say the same exact thing. Specifically, the same exact wrong things that anyone who has been to DPRK recognizes as larping.
Hi Kim.
Is this not what you were expecting? What were the expectations since they were so bluntly crushed?
post a picture you took while you were there
You sound like a communist yourself, since the creepy brainwashing talk just seems normal to your kind
>the creepy brainwashing talk
must go to a community church
Thanks for confirming it with that stereotypical irrelevant christian bashing out of nowhere.
*tips fedora*
The only creepy brainwashing talk you have had in your life is /misc/ incels convincing you to larp about having been to places you don't know the first thing about.
>only people on /misc/ would hate communists
You have no grounds to be talking about others falling for propaganda with your feet planted in this muck of exaggerative stupidity
This is pretty much the same thing a former college roommate of mine said. He was with the State Dept. entourage that went with Trump. He said they couldn't leave their hotel or bus, went on a prearranged tour to few sites and didn't really see much. Funny thing he said was some big hat General walked around with some enlisted female and gathered everyones passport into a large velvet bag with a string (he said like a big Crown Royal bag) and when they got it back on their way out, it wasn't even stamped that they were there.
>state department
i bet its more fun if you are actually interested in communism and able to quiz local on their understanding of King Jong Il writing and marxism theory
Go there and find out, also don't come back.
I posted about my trip on SighSee way back in 2010. That was before the days of the archives. I'm sure a lot has changed from back then. Koryo's newsletters are saying they expect DPRK to open to tourists in 2024, but of course nothing is ever fully certain.
chud
Been 10 times
This is the guy you wanna ask about NK.
Always delivers awesome threads
I will post some of my photography there but I'm kinda too busy these days to dive into some deep Q&A.
Why is her watch the other way around?
she's a tactical waifu
Were you born a homosexual or did you become one?
Are you the travel guide anon that made the amazing thread on here about a year ago?...this pic looks familiar
I'd love to go someday but have no idea where to start
It's very easy. Just sign up with a tour company such as Koryo. Though you obviously have to wait as the country is still closed, but check back next year.
North Koreans seem to like Eastern Europeans aka former commies because everytime I watch some Slavs go there they drink alco with their guides, dance with the locals etc. I imagine Westerners are treated less kindly and with more distance.
>dancing
>north korea
is this trolling?
why would you even go? a guided tour doesn't sound remotely fun at all. I wouldn't go on a guided tour of rome of all places for fricks sake
people dance in the dictatorships too
Guess what, they even sing as well. And play the guitar.
That's how it always ends up if your wrists are too small and they don't make small enough watches for you.
>Guess what, they even sing as well. And play the guitar.
it's probably just for show. if they dont they would be reprimanded by the police
So if you want to have fun, they throw a party with you? Sounds based. Makes sense the shocked whispering Americans snapping pictures and pretending to be miserable are always getting yelled at and banned from wandering around.
If you are visiting North Korea the chances are you need to go to China first. You might as well just visit those North Korean state run restaurants and bath houses in China to experience the vibe
Went there in 2018 with young pioneers tours. One of the best (and totally fake, limited and artificial) trips of my life. Wanted to go back with a friend this spring but the country is closed "due COVID" (lol).
Forget about it at least until Q3/Q4 2024 and first groups will be packed and expensive. The waiting lists are huge.
I went with my dad back when kim jong il was still alive, it was one of the most interesting places I have been to. We were on a private tour, so just us, the guides and the driver. The only other foreigners I saw while there were chinks.
Whats with all the North Korea hate? This isn’t 2007 any more, you pro-America boomers
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My experience is very different from the other 2 guys that posted about their trip.
I went in March 2019 with Uritours, 6 days/5 nights., Total was 1330 euro including flights between Beijing and Pyongyang. Some people in my group took the train back and it was cheaper for them.
My biggest worry before going was that it is a group tour, I had never done one before and worried that it would be boring. Maybe I was lucky but I got along with the others in my group and the guides were chill and we could ask them stuff and the day are filled.
When I was looking at what tour to book, I didn't want large group or dumb activities like workshop and the such. The tour I found was limited to 12 people and stayed at 3 different hotels so there was not as much time wasted travelling by bus. We were 7 in my group, + 2 guides and drive, so 10 people in a small bus, all men. The "main" guide switched to a woman guide on the 3rd day when we left Pyongyang.
I got my NK visa at Beijing airport and upon landing the guide took our passport. Everyone's luggage's was checked but took only about 1min for everyone except 1 guy that had a book written in arabic so they asked him questions about what the content of the book was.
We were told the rules about taking pictures:
-If you take a picture of the leaders statue or portrait, you have to take them as a whole, you can't cut off the legs/arms/head, etc
-Don't take pictures of the military
-Don't take pictures of people without asking
At first it is kind of scary because you don't want to do something bad so you ask if you can take pictures of things but you eventually relax and just take pictures of everything.
I took a video and picture of military trucks (like a dozen) passing by and the people that were in the street waved at them but the guides didn't seem bothered. We have never been told not to take a picture, to delete a picture and they never looked at the picture we took.
I wonder how the museum guide (forgot her name) in your pic is doing, it's been nearly 4 years since there was a need for an English speaking guide at the Pyongyang Korean War Museum.
Quality posts.
Thank you very much for the high quality posts!
Sounds interesting. Also nice digits.
>My experience is very different from the other 2 guys that posted about their trip
That's because you actually went there. Those "2 guys" are one samegay who never went there and was larping based on what he was on Vice videos. It's obvious in this thread who has been to DPRK and who has not.
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The food was alright, pretty normal hotel food. Breakfast is always at the hotel. Lunch was wherever we happened to be. I only had 1 dinner at every hotel (so 3), 1 time at some illuminated fancy building and the last diner is at a restaurant boat.
As expected, you cannot leave your hotel or the group. I happened to be the only 1 in the group drinking alcohol as 5 members were muslims and the other didn't drink, so on the 2nd day a guide invited me to a bar next to the hotel after we were done with the day so I had a chat with him and went to the guides table after dinner to have a beer with them. Another guy asked if we could go have coffee next to a restaurant we had lunch at and so we went after lunch. So there was some flexibility with the guides, on the last day before the restaurant boat the woman guide said she would bring us to where she likes to have her coffee so we went to some fancy coffee place that was underground under a park, that felt like a secret fancy place for the elite out of view of the poor.
The day were pretty filled, we met at 8am in the hotels lobby and came back around 6pm for dinner, dinner is done at about 8-9pm and then you are free to roam inside the hotel, play on very used pool table or babyfoot, buy something at the convenience store inside the hotel.
We didn't go to some cringe show or pizza making or whatever. It wasn't listed in the tour activity and thats perfect with me.
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Our guides were chill, we could ask them stuff about things work, like food ration, military services of our guides, told us joke and tough some curse words, showed each other pictures of our family, kids, home. They had smartphones of really shit quality, cheap plastic and black display under the sun. We went to a shhoting range and I asked them which of them was the best marksman and so the 2 had a competitions. The loser said something like "I'm not good with a rifle, I used a Ak-47". Our guides were not the average north korean, but they are human and acted as such, you can have a normal conversation with them.
The first 2 days, you are feeling really weird, because you hear about this is staged so you always wonder what if fake and what is real but you eventually realise that it is not staged. They just show you want they want you to see, obviously. But they can't hide that most of the time, the bus you are on is the only car on the 10 lines highway and it has to zig zag to avoid the giant potholes. They can't hide the poor farmers working with their hands and 0 agricultural machinery. Villages in ruins by the roads, there is almost no trees. Hotels outside Pyongyang lose electricity and have hot water for 15min in the morning, the normal people don't eat as well as we did.
It is a shit country, but it is a unique experience.
Picture: my tour guide and military guy at the DMZ, he stayed with our group when traveling within the DMZ so we could ask him question despited there being 3 large buses with chinese tourists. After the DMZ, I saw our guide give the guy a big carton of cigarette, when I asked her "did you bribe him" she replied "shhhhhh, you didn't see anything".
closest Ive been is to the boarder with SK where you an look through the telescope and see the flag on the other side
anon did they stamp your passport on entry?
if so has it been detrimental with going anywhere else?
No, they gave a paper visa before the flight and didn't stamp my passport upon landing, I don't recall what they stamp or if they gave some landing permission sticker. There was a guy from South Africa with me and he has his NK visa inside his passport because NK has an embassy in South Africa so he received his visa there.
Damn you are right, good thing they didn't look at the pictures I took
ruh roh, you cut off his foot
What would happen if you theoretically hit on a north korean qt
if the girl is in the tourism industry, restaurants, sites and such she has probably been trained and encouraged to be friendly to the point of being charming/flirty in an old fashioned innocent way - happy tourists might book a second trip, bring back gifts for the DPRK guides, and maybe even the girl. One serving girl who danced and sang at the restaurants was quite notorious for going too far, I was not the only guy she open mouth kissed, she ended up no longer working, with the other girls claiming she got married and was pregnant, but I feel she disappeared.
Would you go back again after the borders reopen or do you feel you've seen everything there is to see with how you can only go on a government approved tour? I'm hoping to go myself when the borders finally reopen
I would go back but the itinerary would need to be significantly different or if a friend asked me to go or go when there is an event or something.
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My dad who was Cuban used to go there regularly to teach at the medical schools before he retired. Cuba and DPR Korea are literally top allies. He said that most people over there just keep up appearances, but that the Soviet-styled mentality over there among civilians is just more of a style than anything else. It's just who they are and they know it sets them apart from the rest of the world. He would always say how it was the safest place in the world and that people live very simple lives over there. Marijuana is also absolutely not regulated at all; like it isn't even recognized and it grows wild everywhere.
I never saw any weed growing but maybe its more up north or whatever.
You probably mean indica (hemp) plants.
North Korea is prepping to invade South Korea so right now is by far the worst time to go there as a westerner. I wouldn't recommend it.
>North Korea is prepping to invade South Korea
homie they can't even feed themselves and most of their military equipment is from the 1960s, wtf are you talking about. North Korea isn't invading anybody.
Why do you think they're allying with Russia moron?
For food and money you stupid Black person, not to invade South Korea. Their population is literally starving. I can't tell if this is bait or not.
Their population has been starving since the 90s. Yet in that time they've managed to develop thermonuclear weapons and are working on ICBMs as we speak. I don't know if you've been paying attention or not but they have the 4th largest military in the world and have been training nonstop to kill Americans since the 50s. Kim Jong Un had numerous opportunities in the last 6 years to reach out to other countries to get food and instead he decided to cut all communications with the western world. It's pretty fricking obvious he's planning on invading South Korea.
It's not starving the people, or they would be all dead. But rather, finding the maximum food input to work output ratio.
Ease up on the propaganda, Bugs
>North Korea is prepping to invade South Korea
Holy based. Hope they also nuke NYC, LA and Washington DC
Sure, no problem.
They won't take you to the statue then, but be sure to inform them on arrival for them to save face.
I assume it's the same when you want to visit the Wailing Wall without wearing a funny hat.
Steel a propaganda poster and try to take it out of the country as a souvenir.
Best burger in Pyongyang?
sloppa
Tell me anons. Is it possible to coom in North Korea?
I was in Pyongyang in October 2005, so this information is VERY old. The only way westerners can visit DPRK is with a government-approved tour group. At that time there was a spa in the Yanggokdo Hotel where "full service," which they acknowledged meant fricking, was available with Chinese girls for 132 euros. I did not partake, but another member of my tour group did. Whether this is still the case I don't know. Why don't you investigate and let us know (not that I intend to ever go back)?