>want to take a road trip across china
>shitty road infrastructure can't handle all the traffic
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>want to take a road trip across china. >shitty road infrastructure can't handle all the traffic
Did you just criticize a CCP policy? Dude! you fricked up!
They're about to show you!
If you don't go on national holidays, China roadtripping is actually fantastic as the infrastructure is top tier, no speed traps to worry about, and lots to see. But on holidays it is living hell. The one time I roadtripped on a holiday it took over 24 hours to make a trip I can normally do in 6, including a single 10km stretch that took 4 hours to cross. You do have to be careful too as you'll almost always encounter at least one liveleak-tier accident during your trip.
What's the process for driving in China as a foreigner? They don't take IDPs but is the license conversion process quick and easy?
There are two options - if you are on a short term (<120 days/entry) visa, you can only get a 'temporary' license, which only requires that you take a translated copy of your foreign license to the local DMV. Then you get a license that can be used for driving rental cars during your trip.
If you have a long term visa or residence permit, you can get an actual license which is valid for 6 and then 10 years on renewal. In addition to the translation of your foreign license you also need to take a written test. It's easy with a few days of study before hand. All the possible questions are online. If you pass the test they print and hand you your license on the spot in the test room.
>translated copy of your foreign license
Can you elaborate on the short term temporary license?
Translated by some official government office? Notarized by your issuing country's government or what? Thank u
https://www.smartshanghai.com/articles/travelsightseeing/how-to-get-a-limited-temporary-drivers-license-in-shanghai
Why the frick would you drive when the trains are cheap and go 300km/h?
Utterly fricking moronic
Even planes are a dumb option for travelling there now.
It would work if they had one more lane
Because I like driving, and there are lots of places that are only reachable by car
IDK if you're joking re: OPs pic but once you're outside the immediate area of major cities highways are almost 100% two-lane (per direction) regardless of how major of a route it is. Which I guess is not all that different from the US but there really are spots where 1 more lane would make the difference
https://interestingengineering.com/video/heres-why-traffic-congestion-happens
>there are lots of places that are only reachable by car
You dramatically underestimate how big the chink rail network is anon
Basically everything is easy to visit by rail and bus.
Driving around is going to raise eyebrows in many places off the beaten track and you can't just use an IDP, you literally need to get a Chinese drivers license
> t. trust me bro
honestly
Forgot to add, it's possible with a driver but doing it alone is dumb as frick and clearly the brain fart of someone who doesn't have a fricking clue. China isn't like the west anon, it's completely incompatible with how we do things.
You'll get fine raped by cops over and over again driving around rural areas.
>big rail network
>cant use an IDP
Yes thank you anon for explaining these things to me after I already said I go on road trips in China. As in, I've done it myself, live in China, and have a Chinese driving license. I don't underestimate how big the rail network is at all, I use it all the time, but HSR doesn't go to all the small towns and nature spots, and I'd rather drive than ride the slow train or a bus. With a car I have total freedom of schedule and movement, can stop at comfy rural restaurants, etc.
>raise eyebrows
I've solo roadtripped everywhere including near the NK border. No one gives a shit
OK you are clueless. I've been roadtripping rural China for years. You seem to be confusing China with Mexico.
>China isn't like the west
insightful
Yeah the biggest hurdle is language and I definitely wouldn't recommend solo roadtripping in China if you can't at least read Chinese.
this OP is moronic and doesn't deserve knowing what real infrastructure is like. also the fact that if he even tried it he'd end up in a rekt thread.
Get a motorbike, maybe a youtube series about your travels through China...
China haters
>white people
>succesfull youtube e-celebs
Chyna lovers
>basketball people
>steroid brainlets
Hmm
I despise Serp and Laowhy. How do their wives cope with them slamming their country every week? They fuel the sino-rascism, making the world a more hostile place. I often experience cars yelling at my chinese friends, and it ruins their entire weeks.
>the neo-lib pedo neck beard homosexual vaush hates China
I guess I love China
They have all the land in the world but their people live like this.
>China population density: 146 people per square kilometer
>France population density: 119 people per square kilometer
>USA population density: 36 people per square kilometer
>India population density: 412 people per square kilometer
China is pretty damn crowded in its habitable regions, more crowded even than Europe, and much of the less-populated spaces are dusty desert/steppe wastelands and impassable mountains.
Also USA's population is more evenly distributed, with major cities in all corners of the country, while China is heavily skewed to the east, far more than the USA is
Looks like Fruit Loops with flies.
>wanting to take a road trip in the country with the worlds greatest high speed rail network
kek
I think we won the argument comrades! We really dodged this one!
Long live comrade Xi!
I know you're lying because the only reason anyone would complain about China's roads for a road trip would be the petrol and the toll fees. Dunno how you'd figured your way around without knowing any Chinese, let alone rent a car, so huge doubt on anything you've said. Pic is during holidays which is the exact same pic of LA during memorial day weekend.
Just don't travel on national holidays. Chinese transport infrastructure is great
Since this is a china thread, what VPN works in china really well?
If you're just going on short trip, consider mobile network roaming using your regular provider. Those connections avoid the Great Firewall, had no problems whatsoever. Plus it was much less hassle to switch between my home SIM and my Chinese SIM than to using VPN providers.
My friend used NordVPN and he was swearing a lot.
Thanks. I was using Expressvpn and that shit worked like for 1 minute a day. Its kinda weird that twitter and facebook are banned there but I had no problem visiting SighSee.
This mobile roaming w/ foreign provider is best for short trips. But for VPN - supposedly Astrill is the best right now (potentially the only one that works consistently ATM)
Astril and wannaflix. Or setup your own. Only use shadowsocks bc everything is absolute shit.
AirVPN and Mullvad work