Just returned to Thailand after 58 days in Malaysia. Malacca/Melaka gets my vote as one of the best cities in all of Southeast Asia...if you are already happy and just want a place to chill, vibe and meet friendly people. Malaysians are extremely friendly toward white guys, yet they don't overcharge or take advantage of you. Pretty rare in the world.
Malaysia is paradise for gluttons. You can eat and eat and eat. Full sit-down meals, primarily. Malay Muslims love late-night dining, it is their #1 leisure pastime. It's a wonder how Malaysians aren't as obese as Americans. Skipping breakfast prolly helps; most Malaysians wake up late.
If you want to go the haraam route, you can eat pork and drink bottles of beer with the Chinese. $4 for a 620 mL bottle of beer isn't exactly cheap, though. Some Malaysian Chinese are friendly, others are very insular and refuse to speak English.
In many ways, Malaysia is less a culture shock than other Asian countries. Many downtown blocks are basically strip malls with angle parking, first-floor shops/restaurants, and upper-floor hotel rooms or residences. You will always have a huge selection of hotels to choose from, but going cheap may land you in a subpar bugbox.
Outside of Kuala Lumpur, everyone drives in Malaysia, so cities are not very pleasant to walk around. No level sidewalks, no crosswalks, none of that shit. However bus travel is cheap AF, and many bus terminals are right in the middle of things, so why not go explore the country?
Picrel is a typical Malaysian downtown street.
58 days in Malaysia cost me RM 8126.2, or $29.43/day. Lodging ran RM 4376.3, or $15.85/night, with most places charging RM 10 ($2.10) per night tourism fee. $12/night squalid bugboxes and $20/night high-rise suites, it all evens out in the end.
Food cost me RM 2662.1, or $9.64/day. Appetite was the limiting factor, not cost. Malaysia is not Thailand, where you will pay triple the price for the same dish at the tourist place. Food prices are very consistent.
I don't recommend drinking alcohol in Malaysia, as it is expensive. However, Malacca does have a decent selection of riverfront bars which sell beers around $3 apiece, barely higher than what you'd pay at 7-Eleven. The scene is pretty lame, so don't expect to meet people and get rowdy. Some bars do have decent live music.
Bus travel cost me RM 103 for 860 kilometers of country covered, a very economical rate. Buses were comfy and nearly always half-empty, no need to buy tickets online or in advance.
Thank you SighSeeer Malacca is my next destination
58 days in Malaysia cost me RM 8126.2, or $29.43/day. Lodging ran RM 4376.3, or $15.85/night, with most places charging RM 10 ($2.10) per night tourism fee. $12/night squalid bugboxes and $20/night high-rise suites, it all evens out in the end.
Food cost me RM 2662.1, or $9.64/day. Appetite was the limiting factor, not cost. Malaysia is not Thailand, where you will pay triple the price for the same dish at the tourist place. Food prices are very consistent.
I don't recommend drinking alcohol in Malaysia, as it is expensive. However, Malacca does have a decent selection of riverfront bars which sell beers around $3 apiece, barely higher than what you'd pay at 7-Eleven. The scene is pretty lame, so don't expect to meet people and get rowdy. Some bars do have decent live music.
Bus travel cost me RM 103 for 860 kilometers of country covered, a very economical rate. Buses were comfy and nearly always half-empty, no need to buy tickets online or in advance.
OK, dorkers. RealTraveler here.
I've only been to Kuala Lumpur and it's a big meh from me, dawg. I've only stayed in Chinatown, too, by the way. I had high hopes for this country but you will be faced with brutal reminders of subcontinent Indians at every turn since they make up 30% of the population it seems and are odd fellows. Then there are the Chinese which are another huge segment and behave sort of like robots and I find them wholly unnattractive for some reason they piss me off more and more the more I stay. I've only stayed for one week, by the way. Beyond that you have the natives and the women are ALL hijab wearing larvae freaks. And not in a good way like a relaxed Muslim, they seem quite insular. This bustling metropolis has all the trappings of oversocialization and I have not witnessed anything remotely fun looking and yes I saw throngs of people eating on the sidewalk at 2AM but it did not look friendly. There is still hordes of white people and black Americans so this is truly a tourist Mecca and you should appreciate that chuds. I've wandered off the beaten track to a hotel of ill repute in Pudu and experienced the most offensive street smells and dirtiest gutters anywhere. I can't even imagine going to little India, but there might be red light opportunities there. In Chinatown you can get a poke at some Bangladeshi or Indonesian ladies for 50 ringgit or 10 dollars but it's an open air interior space and you can hear everything from the stalls lining the corridor, you just walk into certain street entrances Hong Kong style. I went to Bukit Bintang or the nightlife district my first night and it was one of the poorest excuses of humanity I have witnessed with a bunch of nasty old street meat. My only match on Tinder was a scammy Thai massage lady. There is decent levels of convenience and services but I have yet to discover anything truly noteworthly.
Are there any worthwhile museums and interesting sights in KL and George Town? I'm going to fly to KL, and then catch the train and ferry down to George Town later this year.
there are one or two small niche museums in kl but if you are thinking of a big general museum like the british museum or rijksmuseum or a big art gallery like the louvre or prado then forget it.
there is a "national museum" but it is not worth a special trip. it is academically poor- a lot of the exhibits don't have proper dating - also malaysia's history has been twisted by the muslims so everything is very biased (a lot of the pre-islam history of the country has been destroyed)
if you just have a short layover in kl before moving on then better just to hang out at a mall or something. if you have a day or two then you could go somewhere like batu caves. if your trip coincides with a festival like diwali or similar you might find some events going on
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So if I wanna just slothmaxx and eat lots of food and lounge around without any expectation of a raucous nightlife or array of cooming options Malaysia would be my best choice?
Is Malaysia like Thailand if you take 10mg of finnasteride daily?
Doing their own thing. They hate Israel though. So based. Oh yeah their currency is crashing down right now so if you are using dollars or dinars, you will live like a king. Why are you asking?
58 days in Malaysia cost me RM 8126.2, or $29.43/day. Lodging ran RM 4376.3, or $15.85/night, with most places charging RM 10 ($2.10) per night tourism fee. $12/night squalid bugboxes and $20/night high-rise suites, it all evens out in the end.
Food cost me RM 2662.1, or $9.64/day. Appetite was the limiting factor, not cost. Malaysia is not Thailand, where you will pay triple the price for the same dish at the tourist place. Food prices are very consistent.
I don't recommend drinking alcohol in Malaysia, as it is expensive. However, Malacca does have a decent selection of riverfront bars which sell beers around $3 apiece, barely higher than what you'd pay at 7-Eleven. The scene is pretty lame, so don't expect to meet people and get rowdy. Some bars do have decent live music.
Bus travel cost me RM 103 for 860 kilometers of country covered, a very economical rate. Buses were comfy and nearly always half-empty, no need to buy tickets online or in advance.
I've only been to Kuala Lumpur and it's a big meh from me, dawg. I've only stayed in Chinatown, too, by the way. I had high hopes for this country but you will be faced with brutal reminders of subcontinent Indians at every turn since they make up 30% of the population it seems and are odd fellows. Then there are the Chinese which are another huge segment and behave sort of like robots and I find them wholly unnattractive for some reason they piss me off more and more the more I stay. I've only stayed for one week, by the way. Beyond that you have the natives and the women are ALL hijab wearing larvae freaks. And not in a good way like a relaxed Muslim, they seem quite insular. This bustling metropolis has all the trappings of oversocialization and I have not witnessed anything remotely fun looking and yes I saw throngs of people eating on the sidewalk at 2AM but it did not look friendly. There is still hordes of white people and black Americans so this is truly a tourist Mecca and you should appreciate that chuds. I've wandered off the beaten track to a hotel of ill repute in Pudu and experienced the most offensive street smells and dirtiest gutters anywhere. I can't even imagine going to little India, but there might be red light opportunities there. In Chinatown you can get a poke at some Bangladeshi or Indonesian ladies for 50 ringgit or 10 dollars but it's an open air interior space and you can hear everything from the stalls lining the corridor, you just walk into certain street entrances Hong Kong style. I went to Bukit Bintang or the nightlife district my first night and it was one of the poorest excuses of humanity I have witnessed with a bunch of nasty old street meat. My only match on Tinder was a scammy Thai massage lady. There is decent levels of convenience and services but I have yet to discover anything truly noteworthly.
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Thank you SighSeeer Malacca is my next destination
So if I wanna just slothmaxx and eat lots of food and lounge around without any expectation of a raucous nightlife or array of cooming options Malaysia would be my best choice?
Is Malaysia like Thailand if you take 10mg of finnasteride daily?
Malacca is pretty good for that. A lot of other Malaysian cities have plenty of hotels and restaurants, but are tougher to walk around. Bus travel is very cheap, I paid ten ringgit to get from TBS to Melaka Sentral.
>their currency is crashing down right now
yes the ringgit is quite weak at the moment. it is about £1=myr 6. not too long ago it was £1=myr 5. so things are a bit cheaper for foreigners at the moment. >so if you are using dollars or dinars, you will live like a king
well no. maybe "you will live about 20% more like a middle class person" would be more realistic.
on the other hand, sales and service tax (SST) has just gone up from 6% to 8% starting this month so a lot of things will be a bit more expensive in myr.
All decent businesses bundle tax into their price. Food is still taxed at 6%, I believe.
If you rent monthly, you will pay much less for your accomodations.
The median household income in Kuala Lumpur is $2150 USD, and households are usually quite large. Some parts of the country are much poorer, however.
I've only been to Kuala Lumpur and it's a big meh from me, dawg. I've only stayed in Chinatown, too, by the way. I had high hopes for this country but you will be faced with brutal reminders of subcontinent Indians at every turn since they make up 30% of the population it seems and are odd fellows. Then there are the Chinese which are another huge segment and behave sort of like robots and I find them wholly unnattractive for some reason they piss me off more and more the more I stay. I've only stayed for one week, by the way. Beyond that you have the natives and the women are ALL hijab wearing larvae freaks. And not in a good way like a relaxed Muslim, they seem quite insular. This bustling metropolis has all the trappings of oversocialization and I have not witnessed anything remotely fun looking and yes I saw throngs of people eating on the sidewalk at 2AM but it did not look friendly. There is still hordes of white people and black Americans so this is truly a tourist Mecca and you should appreciate that chuds. I've wandered off the beaten track to a hotel of ill repute in Pudu and experienced the most offensive street smells and dirtiest gutters anywhere. I can't even imagine going to little India, but there might be red light opportunities there. In Chinatown you can get a poke at some Bangladeshi or Indonesian ladies for 50 ringgit or 10 dollars but it's an open air interior space and you can hear everything from the stalls lining the corridor, you just walk into certain street entrances Hong Kong style. I went to Bukit Bintang or the nightlife district my first night and it was one of the poorest excuses of humanity I have witnessed with a bunch of nasty old street meat. My only match on Tinder was a scammy Thai massage lady. There is decent levels of convenience and services but I have yet to discover anything truly noteworthly.
>RealTraveler here. >I've only been to Kuala Lumpur
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I'm a light sleeper, and don't really care to be woken up at 5 in the morning because some dude thinks it's time to pray. How bad is that shit in Malaysia?
>I'm a light sleeper, and don't really care to be woken up at 5 in the morning because some dude thinks it's time to pray. How bad is that shit in Malaysia?
depends. if you are stupid enough to stay in a malay area like e.g. shah alam (where the big fricking blue mosque is) then yeah
if you stay in a chinese area you are more likely to get woken up by bin men, stray dogs, people just generally yelling, etc
All decent businesses bundle tax into their price. Food is still taxed at 6%, I believe.
If you rent monthly, you will pay much less for your accomodations.
The median household income in Kuala Lumpur is $2150 USD, and households are usually quite large. Some parts of the country are much poorer, however.
>All decent businesses bundle tax into their price.
?? yes that is normal in most countries. >Food is still taxed at 6%, I believe.
food which you buy in a supermarket is covered by sales tax which is zero or 5% or 10% depending on what food it is
if you eat in a normal restaurant you will get charged SST
(and of course the restaurant will often add a service charge)
as with everything in malaysia it is not simple. suffice to say that the price on the menu is not what you will end up paying
I'm a light sleeper, and don't really care to be woken up at 5 in the morning because some dude thinks it's time to pray. How bad is that shit in Malaysia?
At the very core of Abrahamic religions, is controlling animals that live in a sparse region. Granted, Malaysia isn't extremely overpopulated nor is it with few resources, but you best believe that their cities have grown exponentially and the infrastructure, chiefly the sewage system, hasn't been able to keep up.
a lot of places in malaysia have open drains. or sometimes they are covered by concrete slabs but these are frequently broken
it is not so much human shit but just generally rotting food, general garbage, dead animals etc
combine with malaysia's hot humid climate, frequent rain, haphazard public services, and a general attitude of not giving a shit, and the end result is a fairly unique fragrance
>Malaysia thread already exists before i bothered creating it either way thanks OP
sup guys its me again in about 10 days (march 26 afternoon) ill take another flight to Kuala Lumpur lets see how this goes any suggestions? how to make the best out of this? i wonder if the Dubai islamic architecture looks inherently similar
recommend me good interesting rides or tourist destinations? we only booked the plane ticket and hotel for now this place is way too big and i dont want to accidentally book Sarawak or waste transport time wandering too far from the capital city
(tour duration is exactly 5 days 4 nights as both air asia planes are scheduled for midnight hehe i enjoy sleeping on noisy cabins this looks exciting as i RDP the home computer for shitposting back here)
If you want to enjoy luxury mountain living, you can visit Genting Highlands. It's not far from KL.
Most foreigners stay in the Chinatown / Pasar Besar district at the city center. Some visit Bukit Bintang.
Hop off at Muzium Negara and visit the botanical gardens.
Just returned to Thailand after 58 days in Malaysia. Malacca/Melaka gets my vote as one of the best cities in all of Southeast Asia...if you are already happy and just want a place to chill, vibe and meet friendly people. Malaysians are extremely friendly toward white guys, yet they don't overcharge or take advantage of you. Pretty rare in the world.
Malaysia is paradise for gluttons. You can eat and eat and eat. Full sit-down meals, primarily. Malay Muslims love late-night dining, it is their #1 leisure pastime. It's a wonder how Malaysians aren't as obese as Americans. Skipping breakfast prolly helps; most Malaysians wake up late.
If you want to go the haraam route, you can eat pork and drink bottles of beer with the Chinese. $4 for a 620 mL bottle of beer isn't exactly cheap, though. Some Malaysian Chinese are friendly, others are very insular and refuse to speak English.
In many ways, Malaysia is less a culture shock than other Asian countries. Many downtown blocks are basically strip malls with angle parking, first-floor shops/restaurants, and upper-floor hotel rooms or residences. You will always have a huge selection of hotels to choose from, but going cheap may land you in a subpar bugbox.
Outside of Kuala Lumpur, everyone drives in Malaysia, so cities are not very pleasant to walk around. No level sidewalks, no crosswalks, none of that shit. However bus travel is cheap AF, and many bus terminals are right in the middle of things, so why not go explore the country?
Picrel is a typical Malaysian downtown street.
Thank you SighSeeer Malacca is my next destination
Are there any worthwhile museums and interesting sights in KL and George Town? I'm going to fly to KL, and then catch the train and ferry down to George Town later this year.
there are one or two small niche museums in kl but if you are thinking of a big general museum like the british museum or rijksmuseum or a big art gallery like the louvre or prado then forget it.
there is a "national museum" but it is not worth a special trip. it is academically poor- a lot of the exhibits don't have proper dating - also malaysia's history has been twisted by the muslims so everything is very biased (a lot of the pre-islam history of the country has been destroyed)
if you just have a short layover in kl before moving on then better just to hang out at a mall or something. if you have a day or two then you could go somewhere like batu caves. if your trip coincides with a festival like diwali or similar you might find some events going on
i have no idea what you are talking about
How was Georgetown/Penang, for some reason I’m a sucker for island cities like Florianopolis, New York, or Hong Kong
What about the girls? I want a cute Muslim Malay gf
Doing their own thing. They hate Israel though. So based. Oh yeah their currency is crashing down right now so if you are using dollars or dinars, you will live like a king. Why are you asking?
58 days in Malaysia cost me RM 8126.2, or $29.43/day. Lodging ran RM 4376.3, or $15.85/night, with most places charging RM 10 ($2.10) per night tourism fee. $12/night squalid bugboxes and $20/night high-rise suites, it all evens out in the end.
Food cost me RM 2662.1, or $9.64/day. Appetite was the limiting factor, not cost. Malaysia is not Thailand, where you will pay triple the price for the same dish at the tourist place. Food prices are very consistent.
I don't recommend drinking alcohol in Malaysia, as it is expensive. However, Malacca does have a decent selection of riverfront bars which sell beers around $3 apiece, barely higher than what you'd pay at 7-Eleven. The scene is pretty lame, so don't expect to meet people and get rowdy. Some bars do have decent live music.
Bus travel cost me RM 103 for 860 kilometers of country covered, a very economical rate. Buses were comfy and nearly always half-empty, no need to buy tickets online or in advance.
So if I wanna just slothmaxx and eat lots of food and lounge around without any expectation of a raucous nightlife or array of cooming options Malaysia would be my best choice?
Is Malaysia like Thailand if you take 10mg of finnasteride daily?
Malacca is pretty good for that. A lot of other Malaysian cities have plenty of hotels and restaurants, but are tougher to walk around. Bus travel is very cheap, I paid ten ringgit to get from TBS to Melaka Sentral.
>their currency is crashing down right now
yes the ringgit is quite weak at the moment. it is about £1=myr 6. not too long ago it was £1=myr 5. so things are a bit cheaper for foreigners at the moment.
>so if you are using dollars or dinars, you will live like a king
well no. maybe "you will live about 20% more like a middle class person" would be more realistic.
on the other hand, sales and service tax (SST) has just gone up from 6% to 8% starting this month so a lot of things will be a bit more expensive in myr.
All decent businesses bundle tax into their price. Food is still taxed at 6%, I believe.
If you rent monthly, you will pay much less for your accomodations.
The median household income in Kuala Lumpur is $2150 USD, and households are usually quite large. Some parts of the country are much poorer, however.
OK, dorkers. RealTraveler here.
I've only been to Kuala Lumpur and it's a big meh from me, dawg. I've only stayed in Chinatown, too, by the way. I had high hopes for this country but you will be faced with brutal reminders of subcontinent Indians at every turn since they make up 30% of the population it seems and are odd fellows. Then there are the Chinese which are another huge segment and behave sort of like robots and I find them wholly unnattractive for some reason they piss me off more and more the more I stay. I've only stayed for one week, by the way. Beyond that you have the natives and the women are ALL hijab wearing larvae freaks. And not in a good way like a relaxed Muslim, they seem quite insular. This bustling metropolis has all the trappings of oversocialization and I have not witnessed anything remotely fun looking and yes I saw throngs of people eating on the sidewalk at 2AM but it did not look friendly. There is still hordes of white people and black Americans so this is truly a tourist Mecca and you should appreciate that chuds. I've wandered off the beaten track to a hotel of ill repute in Pudu and experienced the most offensive street smells and dirtiest gutters anywhere. I can't even imagine going to little India, but there might be red light opportunities there. In Chinatown you can get a poke at some Bangladeshi or Indonesian ladies for 50 ringgit or 10 dollars but it's an open air interior space and you can hear everything from the stalls lining the corridor, you just walk into certain street entrances Hong Kong style. I went to Bukit Bintang or the nightlife district my first night and it was one of the poorest excuses of humanity I have witnessed with a bunch of nasty old street meat. My only match on Tinder was a scammy Thai massage lady. There is decent levels of convenience and services but I have yet to discover anything truly noteworthly.
>RealTraveler here.
>I've only been to Kuala Lumpur
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>I'm a light sleeper, and don't really care to be woken up at 5 in the morning because some dude thinks it's time to pray. How bad is that shit in Malaysia?
depends. if you are stupid enough to stay in a malay area like e.g. shah alam (where the big fricking blue mosque is) then yeah
if you stay in a chinese area you are more likely to get woken up by bin men, stray dogs, people just generally yelling, etc
>All decent businesses bundle tax into their price.
?? yes that is normal in most countries.
>Food is still taxed at 6%, I believe.
food which you buy in a supermarket is covered by sales tax which is zero or 5% or 10% depending on what food it is
if you eat in a normal restaurant you will get charged SST
(and of course the restaurant will often add a service charge)
as with everything in malaysia it is not simple. suffice to say that the price on the menu is not what you will end up paying
I'm a light sleeper, and don't really care to be woken up at 5 in the morning because some dude thinks it's time to pray. How bad is that shit in Malaysia?
It's part of the charm. There is someone blasting high volume ching chongy music in the Chinatown market promptly at 7AM which is much louder.
I also don't like smelling human shit. So I think I'll stay in the first world where we don't grow beyond our means.
That's Hindus, different religion.
At the very core of Abrahamic religions, is controlling animals that live in a sparse region. Granted, Malaysia isn't extremely overpopulated nor is it with few resources, but you best believe that their cities have grown exponentially and the infrastructure, chiefly the sewage system, hasn't been able to keep up.
a lot of places in malaysia have open drains. or sometimes they are covered by concrete slabs but these are frequently broken
it is not so much human shit but just generally rotting food, general garbage, dead animals etc
combine with malaysia's hot humid climate, frequent rain, haphazard public services, and a general attitude of not giving a shit, and the end result is a fairly unique fragrance
Malaysia has really kickass seafood
This. You can get a fresh lobster (real ones, not crayfish) for only 20 bucks.
I highly recommend Mount Kinabalu!
It's 4095M though
Just a chill country that caters towards business anons.
Powerful thunderstorm building over Kuala Lumpur, dumped over 2" of rain
the daily storms in klang valley are so comfy
I can smell it, good times.
Clouds over the Malacca Strait
>Malaysia thread already exists before i bothered creating it either way thanks OP
sup guys its me again in about 10 days (march 26 afternoon) ill take another flight to Kuala Lumpur lets see how this goes any suggestions? how to make the best out of this? i wonder if the Dubai islamic architecture looks inherently similar
recommend me good interesting rides or tourist destinations? we only booked the plane ticket and hotel for now this place is way too big and i dont want to accidentally book Sarawak or waste transport time wandering too far from the capital city
(tour duration is exactly 5 days 4 nights as both air asia planes are scheduled for midnight hehe i enjoy sleeping on noisy cabins this looks exciting as i RDP the home computer for shitposting back here)
If you want to enjoy luxury mountain living, you can visit Genting Highlands. It's not far from KL.
Most foreigners stay in the Chinatown / Pasar Besar district at the city center. Some visit Bukit Bintang.
Hop off at Muzium Negara and visit the botanical gardens.
Thanks. I took trains/buses from Singapore to Hat Yai, that was a cool trip but I do regret skipping Malacca. Next time. Is it easy to get to from KL?