What are the cons of living in Australia

What are the cons of living in Australia

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    If they plant you drugs in the airport australia drug laws are hard and could end up decades in jail.

    Going with only carry-on is my recomendation.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      They planted several kilos of cocaine and heroin in my bag last time I visited. Luckily customs didn't notice so now I am wealthy, thanks australia.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Same here, but I got a boot in the arse for bringing in a toad once.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Toad?
          That's a funny name. I'd have called em chuzwazzas.

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    upside down

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Chinese and gays everywhere

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    they talk funny and you have to take pingers its the law

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you have to shelve pingers*
      FTFY

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Aussie here. I'm looking to move.
    Honestly? As an immigrant there aren't many cons at all. We have great quality of life, clean and safe cities, good wages, good safety nets to make sure you don't end up homeless or jobless, big houses, good weather (depends on where you live but you aren't going to be living in the middle of bumfrick outback), beautiful nature and a growing economy.

    My biggest problem with Australia is the lack of history and culture. It's very bland. Our cities are bland, our "cultural" events are mostly bland and feel forced, the oldest thing you'll find that isn't an abo cave painting is probably a sheep shearing station and there's a distinct lack of set cultural identity and nationalism. Australia doesn't know whether it's an Anglo nation, immigrant nation or if we shouldn't be called a nation because it's disrespectful to the aboriginals. It's incredibly disheartening to live in a place where flying your nations flag and saying I'm proud to be Australian is considered a controversial move (Canadians can probably understand this).
    My other thing is that Australian life is very simple and boring (don't get me wrong, this is great for lots of people but not for me). If you're born here your entire life is basically planned out for you. You're going to grow up in suburbs, go to school, get into either retail or a trade for the rest of your life, get a house in the suburbs, go to the beach on warm weekends, afford all the consoomer products you want like a PS5 and Netflix, maybe you'll travel to the Gold Coast with the kids or Bali if you're not drinking your paycheck and then you'll die in the suburbs and your kids will live the exact same life. There's nothing fulfilling here unless you have that boomer "I just wanna grill and sit on the beach" mindset which I currently don't have in life.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      isn't that the same as anywhere else?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nta. As a thirdie, lol, no.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          So everyone wants to move to the third world because... they're bored? Sounds backwards considering civilization is everything humanity has worked towards until now

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            If tons of Thirdies are flooding here and fricking our women, it's only fair that they let some of us live in their countries and frick their women too.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, any first world country. With some exceptions. Lots of Europe is too cold to go to the beach, so replace beach with pub.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >My biggest problem with Australia is the lack of history and culture. It's very bland.

      Well, the government did steal the land from the bogans ... maybe try giving it back to them?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        USA did the same?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kek imagine thinking it’s any different anywhere else. Only deiffentce from Australia and America is probably you make way less money in Australia and have no fricking proper guns lol

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm moving to Europe not muttistan.
        Even then muttistan has a bit more history and culture than Australia unfortunately.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he thinks Europe isnt muttistan
          lamo

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >

          Kek imagine thinking it’s any different anywhere else. Only deiffentce from Australia and America is probably you make way less money in Australia and have no fricking proper guns lol


          >I'm moving to Europe not muttistan.

          EU is becoming a real mutt stan, an Islamistan, sadly.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >muh guns
        burger spotted

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Guns fricking rock and you fricking suck

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like you want to join us in the UK pal

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Couldntve said it better

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I live in New Zealand and I feel the exact same way about living here. You hit the nail on the head with your comments about both lack of history and simple, boring lifestyle. I've travelled both within NZ and overseas to the Americas, Europe and through Asia and the history in the rest of the world is far richer and older than here. Even North America, with its 'culture' that people on this website like to make fun of is more interesting than here, let alone Europe and the variety of different cultures in Asia. Even if you compare the past ~100 years, all of the above have experienced far more interesting events than we have here.

      Whenever I meet someone from overseas that decided to move and settle here, I think to myself "Why would you want to come here? There's nothing to do". A couple of years ago, a friend from Singapore asked me what living here was like with the context being his parents looking into moving out of Singapore and retiring. I told him that it's a good place to visit for a sightseeing holiday or to retire, if you're wealthy, but that's all. There's nothing here for a young person with any sort of ambition or notion to create. The closest you get to that is Weta Workshop.

      I will say however though that I find Australian nationalism and racism insufferable.

      • 7 months ago
        Fortune

        >Australian nationalism and racism insufferable.

        I get the impression that OZ is a hive of far-left reverse racism.

        What's your experience? Thanks.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I have no idea about Australian politics, I'm going by my interactions with individual Australians both online and in real life, as well as the experiences of family friends both Australian and otherwise.

          When I say nationalism, I'm referring to the pride the average Australian has in the country such as that exhibited on Australia day, when they are especially obnoxious. The only way I can really think to explain it is a celebration of or pride in what the anon I initially replied to described. Australia has a prevailing gym culture similar to what you'd see depicted in a stereotypical 80s or 90s high school set TV show, but on a national scale for late teens and 20somethings. Again, as was previously stated by the other anon, these people then end up as tradesmen or in low level retail or service jobs. There are exceptions of course but for the most part the population is just surviving, not living, if you get what I mean.

          From what I can understand, drug use is a problem with a wide age range even among wealthy families. My mother is lifelong friends with a woman about 60 who's son's life was ruined by substance abuse; he started using at age 13 and is now 26. He stole and pawned family heirlooms, had violent outbursts towards his own family and so on. And of course, he was introduced to drugs by friends who lived locally in their wealthy neighbourhood. There's other stuff like violence that I know less about; you can read some journal articles about it here
          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24326204/
          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36878145/

          In terms of racism, it just seems to be xenophobia for anything or anyone that isn't clearly white or European. Every Asian is a "chink" or "asiatic" regardless of their actual origin or the language being spoken or whatever. If you try and challenge them about being racist, they accuse you of being racist towards Australians; I am. In general, they're just dumb people who think in black and white. No offense anon.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            If Australia is racist they're doing a shit job at it seeing as how globohomosexual "multicultural" they've become in the span of 20 years and how they let literal moon worshipping, dirt dwelling stone age neanderthals boss them around.

            Your rusticity and simplicity are you best qualities. The true australian character is that of a rugged, optimistic frontiersman who just wants to get by and have a couple bevvies with his mates. Abbos are fricking moronic and never did anything with their god-given land until the white men came and showed em how it was done. Be proud of what your ancestors achieved: turning a harsh and barren wilderness into a paradise on earth.

            >t. northern-irish prod and white people enjoyer

            They aren't like that though. The majority of Australians seem like huge Karens who will call the police if they smell weed on you. They're cliquey and materialistic and very uptight, totally different from their "Crockodile Dundee" perception they have internationally which is only a small percent of Australians who are like that and from rural parts of the country. Australia is sometimes referred to as California, but upside down and I think that's kinda accurate.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Again, I'm talking about the experience of myself and people I know with individuals, not with organizations or the government.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Then frick off tbh, I've never once voted for immigration and some shitty pot bellied brown man has wandered in against my wishes and thinks I'll be nice to him ahaha, get out of the Dravid before I chase you with the brake pump

            I live in New Zealand and I feel the exact same way about living here. You hit the nail on the head with your comments about both lack of history and simple, boring lifestyle. I've travelled both within NZ and overseas to the Americas, Europe and through Asia and the history in the rest of the world is far richer and older than here. Even North America, with its 'culture' that people on this website like to make fun of is more interesting than here, let alone Europe and the variety of different cultures in Asia. Even if you compare the past ~100 years, all of the above have experienced far more interesting events than we have here.

            Whenever I meet someone from overseas that decided to move and settle here, I think to myself "Why would you want to come here? There's nothing to do". A couple of years ago, a friend from Singapore asked me what living here was like with the context being his parents looking into moving out of Singapore and retiring. I told him that it's a good place to visit for a sightseeing holiday or to retire, if you're wealthy, but that's all. There's nothing here for a young person with any sort of ambition or notion to create. The closest you get to that is Weta Workshop.

            I will say however though that I find Australian nationalism and racism insufferable.

            Just because we won't take your criminals and we send them back. NZers are bitter as everything costs the same but they paid half as much.

            it’s insanely expensive and there’s no culture

            Culture was born of federation 30 or so sick men off a boat created one of the world's top 15 most dominant countries. YOU have no culture.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks!

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds truly glorious

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I live in NZ and still don't understand this "nothing here for a young person with ambition" mindset. Where is it going to be better, you dumb sack of shit?
        What are you going to "create"? You'll have just as much chance here as anywhere else.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Utterly fricking delusional of you think NZ has anywhere near the same opportunities for a startup as the US or Europe
          Auz/NZ pour every cent they have into overpriced shitty housing and don't value innovation or entrepreneurs.
          The oz residential housing market is three times bigger than the entire asx.
          Ass blasted kiwis in this thread cracking me the frick up.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            you weren't going to make a successful startup anyways.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your rusticity and simplicity are you best qualities. The true australian character is that of a rugged, optimistic frontiersman who just wants to get by and have a couple bevvies with his mates. Abbos are fricking moronic and never did anything with their god-given land until the white men came and showed em how it was done. Be proud of what your ancestors achieved: turning a harsh and barren wilderness into a paradise on earth.

      >t. northern-irish prod and white people enjoyer

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >t. Literally me
        Found it funny you specified prod though, anything more fricking annoying than the GAA wearing scum all over Sydney chanting up the ra and acting like big republicans despite leaving their own nation to fall to shit?

        Also Aus pros are the nature and camping, much more laid back in some places than others. Tassie being a particular example.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          taigs are basically subhuman and I have no affinity with republicans. Also frick people who wear GAA shirts abroad, its the most cliché irish shit and it makes me embarassed to be associated with them. Prods are a whole nother kettle of fish mate

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Australians are cons

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isolated
    Cultural wasteland
    Conformist
    Rules obsessed
    Risk averse
    Anti intellectualism, be it STEM or humanities
    Worship electricians, plumbers and real estate agents
    No critical thinking
    Extreme cost of living

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Extreme cost of living
      homie move over the ditch and you will quickly realise how comical this is. I have just got back from a holiday in Australia from New Zealand and everything, and I mean everything, is cheaper there. And you earn more than we do.

      Try paying more for stuff while earning less money.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Anti intellectualism, be it STEM or humanities
      >Worship electricians, plumbers and real estate agents
      God I wish

      t. Massive IQ and probably Australia's most important intellectual, of all time

      You all need to learn to pipe down.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm Australian

      It's true

      Sparky make $180k in mines. I'm in mining making only 110k spent the last week begging a realtor to giv me a roof
      Fricking shit

      God help you if you think funding sci and tech is worth more than paying sit down money

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >pic
    Noongars

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    getting attacked by the local fauna (human or non human)

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      still prefer roos to nigs

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Filled with right wing dickheads

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    are australian cities walkable? i know there's the outback, but i don't think i'd ever need to go there. i just want to bike to grocery stores and parks etc.
    is it similar to the US with suburban human farms?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Inner city usually yes. Most inner suburbs will have main streets with all the basics you need, but if you go further than 5-10km from the centre then you need a car. You don't want to be getting around by bus. The suburbs in Melbourne stretch about 30km in the west and 50km in the east. It's where all the Indians have been dumped, there's nothing there but shit housing estates and the infrastructure is still the same as when the areas were just cow paddocks.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    its not canada

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isolation is the main one, it's a bit boring (though Syd/Mel/Bri aren't) and the lack of culture. There's a reason it's somewhat typical for Australians to work overseas for a couple of years in their 20's/30's.

    There's also a lack of ambition in politics to encourage investment in things that aren't mining and housing.

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fair disclosure I'm Australian but in s nutshell there's very little mobility from one area to another, you're in this vast continent with little reason or oppotrunity to actually travel in it.

    Employers are very conservative, you just won't get the flexible working arrangement common in Europe and in fact workplaces are all awful in general.

    The cost of living is maybe 16% higher than before covid, and the high aussie dollar makes it very hard for people on low salaries to do anything anymore. People who try to save money here have to give up service rather than purchases, if that makes sense.

    Many areas are cultural deserts, housing projects dumped onto the fringe of an endless Mcsuburban sprawl without so much as a corner store, bus stop or supermarket.

    The weather in summer is incredibly harsh especially the UV, it really stops you doing things. Houses aren't built for winter either and while it never really gets cold many houses have draughts and single glazed windows.

    Australia has bizarrely poor IT infrastructure, many properties get 20mbps over a copper wire, mobile coverage is patchy in rural areas, outages are common and this wouldn't be so bad if internet/ mobile services weren't so excruciatingly expensive. We're taking 50$US/mo for data over a 30mbps line, plus the same again for mobile. Many people just use smart phones for everything now.

    Australia is very isolated and that is punishing for anyone who wants to come and go, maybe it's your friends wedding in London, maybe you want a holiday somewhere else. Well if you do that in a year once you've saved nothing for the entire year. Airlines are shockingly uncompetitive and actually getting worse due to corruption.

    The country is in recession, which means the price of used vehicles is the same as new vehicles. Within a year you've spent more on the car than you paid for the car

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >very little mobility
      You don't have cars?
      >give up services rather than purchases
      month-to-month bills are always the priority to shed if you want to save money
      >isolated, safe neighborhoods
      sounds good for the (car-owning) homeowners
      >UV stops you from doing things
      LOL, tell that to anyone in Colorado
      >Australia is very isolated
      Southeast Asia is a short hop away, while for the rest of the Western world, it requires traversing half the globe. $488 for a direct roundtrip flight from Sydney to Bangkok - I'm jealous.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        you're underestimating the UV in Australia (and NZ) even compared to Colorado, and he means low mobility in that the nearest major city is a 13hrs drive away, with next to nothing in between, though I would argue its easy to travel.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/Z80qEyd.jpg

          It's comparable to the southwestern US, one of the most popular parts of the country to visit in the summer.
          Americans are restless and like to get out. Do y'all not have sunscreen and hats?

          UV index of 12 is typical at 8000 feet elevation on sun-blasted summer days in Colorado. I work full-time outdoors, 6 AM to 2 PM, and never use sunscreen. Wouldn't want to get skin cancer from that shit.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        The distances between major cities is enormous, rail infrastrucrure is bare bones and airfares are some of the highest in the world (outside the US anyway).
        But mobility is more than that, it's about how you can take time off work, how you manage you affairs.
        >services
        I'm not just talking month to month bills, I mean things like haircuts, mechanics, basically minimum wages are high and that makes life very hard for anyone who's not working.

        You can get cheap flights to major destinations but it's about time. It takes me four hours to get to melbourne airport, so six hours to even leave the ground. Then it's a very long flight to leave the continent.

        In the UK for example you can fly to Europe for a weekend, the tube connects to heathrow and luton.

        Another factor here is the cost of moving/ posting things, specifically cars.

        It's not bad all things considered but if you're not living in a van you might not be able to get around as much as you like

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You can get cheap flights to major destinations but it's about time. It takes me four hours to get to melbourne airport, so six hours to even leave the ground. Then it's a very long flight to leave the continent.

          >I live in shithole Victoria therefore Australia has bad transport.
          holy shit you're moronic. I live 15min from Perth airport. in 6h I can be on the train to KL sentral.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      First world problems: the post.

      You dont suffer.

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Almost every Australian I've met while travelling abroad have been the biggest c**ts I've ever met.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've only actually talked to a couple of them and they were both cool.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most of them came across as pretty chill to me, but maybe it's just that I'm used to Canadians and honestly everyone is better than Canadians.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Aw thanks

      Wait, loosest or sickest?

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    A drunk version of Canada. Uppity, uptight, entitled Anglos. Nanny state.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >implying Canada isn't drunk

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The moment you get out of the cities its a fairly lawless wild west though.
      Plenty of regional areas where you call the cops and they will turn up a day later and tell the abos to stop drinking on your front lawn

      Almost every Australian I've met while travelling abroad have been the biggest c**ts I've ever met.

      t. kiwi

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    you need to be a con to be australian

  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Australia is like a mirror image of Canada in that it's 90% unlivable wasteland with lots of flies pozzed with a populace of unlikeable c**ts and orwellian govs

  19. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zero suffering country

  20. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The people who run Australia hate Aussies.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >

      https://i.imgur.com/pAPlVep.jpg

      What are the cons of living in Australia (OP)
      >The people who run Australia hate Aussies.

      This.

      Though many countries are similarly afflicted.

  21. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's comparable to the southwestern US, one of the most popular parts of the country to visit in the summer.
    Americans are restless and like to get out. Do y'all not have sunscreen and hats?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Australian levels for comparison.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's a massive hole in the ozone above Australia that gives the sun more of a bite.

  22. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Police state

  23. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Cons:
    It's not the United States of America.

    >Pros:

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well, it's more like Puerto Rico, except if the Puerto Ricans had no independence movement while also having no protection.

  24. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cost and libtards. I am very seriously considering moving to jungle Africa or the Amazon to avoid libtards.

  25. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    give me one reason why would you want to be a 18-45 year old man in australia in the current year?
    >> nanny state
    >>fat manly women
    >>rip off property

    why live here when the best u can be is a wagie driving in rush hour in the mornings to pay your mortgage and feed your fat wife and bastard kids til you die at 60

    just go to asia and enjoy your fuking youth
    its a different world
    don't waste your youth in aussie c**ts..

    come on up and enjoy
    >> $1000 a month 2 bedroom CBD apartments
    >> $10 all you can eat feasts
    >> 7 days a week night life, dining and entertainment
    >> easy pleasant and feminine women

    the fat boomers with SEAmonkey wives learnt the truth the hard way after 50+ years, a lifetime of waging and a divorce rape

    lads skip the shit sandwich australia in 2023 makes you eat and learn from their mistakes while you are still young

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm going to do it, thanks for the inspiration
      I'll see you there in 3-5 years

  26. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    How is the ranjeet pajeet problem in Australia?

  27. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    it’s insanely expensive and there’s no culture

  28. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm heading to Sydney from the US for two weeks in about a month but can anyone explain how the c**ts at Fiji Airways work with their checked baggage? I called and the lady gave me a price which was far more than what the price on the website listed. She said I have to do it over the counter but she didn't say if I have to be there 4 hours before departure to get the price on the website. Has anyone dealt with checked bags with Fiji cause this is my first time going to another country?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >As an aside, do you have a layover in Fiji? I've been curious about booking this ticket with a Fiji layover. It's cheaper and idk Fiji sounds cool.

  29. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Roochads will steal your gf

  30. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cons: big frick off spiders
    Ludicrously low speed limits
    High cost of alcohol and cigarettes
    Pros:
    Weather
    Boku bucks for literally any job

  31. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >pros
    Warm climate, hot grills
    >cons
    SPOIDERS

  32. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    LGBT+ propoganda.
    NPC lefties.

    It's been getting worse every single year since at least 2005 and in 30 years it'll be a third world nation still trying to sell rocks to Asians

    Source, Aussie

    • 6 months ago
      Jackass

      >It's been getting worse every single year since at least 2005 and in 30 years it'll be a third world nation still trying to sell rocks to Asians

      Yeah, but canada is that third world country right now and your weather is better

      I have yet to hear a convincing argument as to why canada would ever be better than australia to live in

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've been to Canada and my opinion is things are very similar but Australia is ahead on wages, slightly ahead on housing even though it's bad here and also slightly less pozzed than Canada. we do discuss how much we hate Indians at work and I doubt Canadians would have similiar conversations.

        Sydney also slightly more prettier than Toronoto, but you can skip over to the land of the free...any single time you want...Nashville. LA. Vegas....It costs me $1500 to get to America at least. Pros and cons, I keep a lose interest in the UK situation and the Canada situation as I know they are slightly worse than us but makes me sick thinking we're going that way.

        There is 500,000 on the way. Into two cities. With barely any new housing due for completion. 400,000 more than a sensible immigration policy of the 2000's.

        IT IS FRICKING OVER FOR AUSTRALIA too, that's why if you move sure....but everything is ending.

        Hobart use to be a backwater and cheap. Now it's not.

        Brisbane use to be cheap, but then pandemic and now it's not.

        SA is next.

        It's ending here too so you might be slightly better of but...yeah

  33. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    shallow '''culture'''
    half the whites i wave hi to blank or ignore me
    try to talk about anything deeper than sports or real estate and you're fighting an uphill battle
    it's hollow down under

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Huh, weird. I visited the UK as a kiwi and was surprised how unfriendly people were on the street. I'd smile or say "hi" occasionally as I do in NZ and they all looked so miserable all the time.
      Sure at night and at pubs they were much friendlier then and could joke around a bit, but man, the whole country seemed like it was clinically depressed.
      Though with the weather and lack of any outdoor activity, I'm not that surprised.
      The entire culture revolving solely around the pub seems like it'd be depressing quickly

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I get this impression as an American. The UK is dour, I think that's the word you're looking for. The US is described as a hostile and tough place to live but Americans have fun. I don't think the English actually have fun.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the english don't have fun
          thats why you go to ireland mate. We actually understand how to deal with shit weather and still be in a good mood. English hated it so much they had to go and conquer the world

  34. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Australia is full.

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