It is a great city full of art, architecture, tasty food and good people. Rome and European history is one and the same. Avoid peak season when it is hot and most locals are not in town. Besides Colosseum, Pantheon and Vatican, most places will not be too overcrowded with tourists. When picking a place to eat, avoid anything with too many foreigners as they exclusively cater to tourists and these places often have very low culinary standards. Locals or travelling Italians are a good sign. Lots of places will do bilingual menus, but in general it is better if at least the placards outside are in Italian. These days with Tripadvisor and Google reviews it is hard to frick yourself with a really shitty tourist trap. Local meals are hearty, greasy and heavy on animal fats. I recommend pasta alla gricia with good local pecorino and Roman style pizza.
It's hard to recommend what to see, it really depends. If you like history, go to any historical museums. I especially recommend Etruscan museum, which was very empty even during August which is the peak tourist season.
For art there's countless galleries, museums, churches, palaces, etc.
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>inb4 endless screeching about bums and overexaggerated anecdotes and other stupid bait straight from /misc/ by people that have never left their basement
I've been to Rome, and everything they say is true - for the area around the train station, but I'm not a /misc/ gay so I didn't freak out about seeing a black person in Europe.
I don't remember which station I got off from, but it was fine. I think I commuted from there to one that is close to Vatican as I was staying there directly from my initial train station. For example Milano Centrale has annoying bums and lots of trash in front, but inside the station is clean and security actually frick off people who aren't there for trains. In and all they're such small parts of city that I don't get anyone who is shitting their pants over one bad thing when there's thousand good ones. People on SighSee are overtly negative, I sometimes wonder if this website is majority female. Everyone makes it seem like they're going to some literal hellholes like Baltimore or Gary in USA, but in reality there's frick all to be worried about. Lots of bad faith discussions, exaggeration or outright lies or trolling on this board especially. IRL most people I'vet met loved Paris and Rome, here they're made to be third world shitholes with nothing to see or do because le gangs of looters are going to pillage your shit. Admittedly this used to be worse a few years ago, at least in Italy, as many of the migrants who were here have since left or been deported. Italy is right now with a majority right wing coalition in government, so.
>be Obongo >get caught stealing or selling drugs in the EU for the 5th time in a month >"Here's a €50 ticket. Don't let it happen again!" >Be Jamal >Get caught stealing or selling drugs for the 3rd time in his life >"3rd strike, eh? That'll be life in prison with no possibility of parole, plus tip."
Hey I was there not too long ago and I live in Italy. It's the same as ever, perhaps less hoards of tourists but it is lively, Italians still a mix of feisty and playful to moody and resentful, very clean and such (except naples lul it needs help)
Avoid summer travel the heat is a b***h, and August is vacation do nothing time in Italy so everyone is traveling, avoid that. Tourist shit is open for the hoards but so much else shuts down, nobody wants to do anything I tell you.
Went there in early March and was surprised to find it in a better state than the last time I went, which was about a decade ago. Barely saw any arab/black scammers or touts and streets were by and large clean. Maybe it was just due to it being the off-season, but I still saw plenty of the frickers in Barcelona, while I only saw maybe 3 in Rome, and all of them were near the Trevi Fountain.
I just came back from Rome after a 4 weeks stay across Italy, here's my takeaway:
City itself is pretty lively, traffic is hardcore in some parts at peak hours and taxis are 50/50 between metered official taxis and scammers charging you a flat fee from point A to point B.
When i arrived i was in the line for the "official taxis" that charged 50 euros from the airport to downtown rome and some random guy came and asked me to follow him outside of the queue for a taxi, then we crossed the street and walked straight to the indoor parking in front of the airport and told me it was legit and that i shouldnt worry, as soon as we arrived he wanted me to get into an elevator and i told him to frick off and went back to the official line. Turns out it was a limousine service scam where they lure tourists into expensive car taxis and charge them 200-250$ euros last minute. So when you arrive and you see someone trying to take you away from the official taxi line in the airport be careful. The airport taxi employee lady saw him trying to lure tourists away from the official line and didn't do anything to stop him so they really don't care if scammers operate in the airport.
With that said it's the only negative experience i had.
Also, people flock to tourist attractions, the trevi fountain is a zoo, the Colosseum is worth a visit but guided tours bought on second hand websites can get expensive. The roman forum isn't worth it as it's jam packed with people, in summer it's too hot and you despite buying the full access pass you still can't get on top of the hill for the view without dishing out extra dollars at the "full experience pass" which is a total scam to considering how overpriced shit is. I'd simply get a Colosseum ticket to visit the place.
The Vatican is worth visiting from the outside, take pictures and move on. The Vatican Museum is the biggest scam in all of Rome considering the tickets are always booked and you need to overpay for guided tour tickets.
The guided tours are absolutely useless because the place is crowded to the point where everyone is jam packed like sardines and you can't enjoy any of the art work, rooms, monuments and can barely hear your tour guide in the earphone. It was so disturbingly crowded that the slight incident would cause a crowd crush and hundreds of people would die as there is no emergency exit in most areas and its a one path tour, i still don't understand why the Vatican even allows this. The visit is a one way path so if you want to exit you have to follow the crowd of people all the way to the end at the Sistine Chapel which is overflowing with tourists so you can't even enjoy it either. Then you have to take the exit and walk all the way back to the main entrance but is less crowded, yet still annoying considering you couldn't enjoy anything there.
So avoid the main tourist attractions besides the Colosseum, Trevi fountain since its free, and the Pantheon. Everything else is a meme and i suggest you visit the palazzos and art galleries like the Dora Pamphili which is worth the money and isn't packed with moronic tourists.
The food is great in most places, i suggest Al Vicolo 9 and Al Viminale as both were cheap and home made foods.
>The roman forum isn't worth it as it's jam packed with people, in summer it's too hot and you despite buying the full access pass you still can't get on top of the hill for the view without dishing out extra dollars at the "full experience pass" which is a total scam to considering how overpriced shit is. I'd simply get a Colosseum ticket to visit the place.
Gotta disagree with this. The forum is absolutely worth seeing, especially since it's included with Colosseum tickets. Not sure what you mean about needing to pay to get on the hill. Anyone could go up the hill, and the only things you may need to pay extra for are interior sites like Augustus' house (though these were also included for free with my basic Colosseum entry).
Roman forum is worth seeing when its not peak tourist times and the hill you need to pay extra now, i was there a few weeks back with the full access ticket and it still wasnt enough.
I would book a tour for the roman forum so at least you get proper explanations and infos as well.
But during peak tourist times its just a zoo and with the june/july heat it gets more annoying than anything. You cant enjoy anything at all during those times. I'd rather go there in the fall when everyone fricks off back home and you get only the richer tourists/locals visiting it.
It is a great city full of art, architecture, tasty food and good people. Rome and European history is one and the same. Avoid peak season when it is hot and most locals are not in town. Besides Colosseum, Pantheon and Vatican, most places will not be too overcrowded with tourists. When picking a place to eat, avoid anything with too many foreigners as they exclusively cater to tourists and these places often have very low culinary standards. Locals or travelling Italians are a good sign. Lots of places will do bilingual menus, but in general it is better if at least the placards outside are in Italian. These days with Tripadvisor and Google reviews it is hard to frick yourself with a really shitty tourist trap. Local meals are hearty, greasy and heavy on animal fats. I recommend pasta alla gricia with good local pecorino and Roman style pizza.
It's hard to recommend what to see, it really depends. If you like history, go to any historical museums. I especially recommend Etruscan museum, which was very empty even during August which is the peak tourist season.
For art there's countless galleries, museums, churches, palaces, etc.
inb4 endless screeching about bums and overexaggerated anecdotes and other stupid bait straight from /misc/ by people that have never left their basement
How's the cooming in Rome?
>inb4 endless screeching about bums and overexaggerated anecdotes and other stupid bait straight from /misc/ by people that have never left their basement
I've been to Rome, and everything they say is true - for the area around the train station, but I'm not a /misc/ gay so I didn't freak out about seeing a black person in Europe.
I too think gangs of drugged up homeless Africans adds to the ambience of the city.
I don't remember which station I got off from, but it was fine. I think I commuted from there to one that is close to Vatican as I was staying there directly from my initial train station. For example Milano Centrale has annoying bums and lots of trash in front, but inside the station is clean and security actually frick off people who aren't there for trains. In and all they're such small parts of city that I don't get anyone who is shitting their pants over one bad thing when there's thousand good ones. People on SighSee are overtly negative, I sometimes wonder if this website is majority female. Everyone makes it seem like they're going to some literal hellholes like Baltimore or Gary in USA, but in reality there's frick all to be worried about. Lots of bad faith discussions, exaggeration or outright lies or trolling on this board especially. IRL most people I'vet met loved Paris and Rome, here they're made to be third world shitholes with nothing to see or do because le gangs of looters are going to pillage your shit. Admittedly this used to be worse a few years ago, at least in Italy, as many of the migrants who were here have since left or been deported. Italy is right now with a majority right wing coalition in government, so.
>but I'm not a /misc/ gay so I- *ACK!*
Italy overall, and especially the big cities, are in a better shape than the ones in France for a direct comparison. Way safer.
France and Italy crime rates comparison
https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/France/Italy/Crime
Literally how?
You live in a dictatorship, welcome to reality, fattie.
The US as highest incarceration rate in the world, way higher than Russia, China, Saudi Arabia or Iran.
US=shithole
>be Obongo
>get caught stealing or selling drugs in the EU for the 5th time in a month
>"Here's a €50 ticket. Don't let it happen again!"
>Be Jamal
>Get caught stealing or selling drugs for the 3rd time in his life
>"3rd strike, eh? That'll be life in prison with no possibility of parole, plus tip."
The prison-industrial complex
Hey I was there not too long ago and I live in Italy. It's the same as ever, perhaps less hoards of tourists but it is lively, Italians still a mix of feisty and playful to moody and resentful, very clean and such (except naples lul it needs help)
Avoid summer travel the heat is a b***h, and August is vacation do nothing time in Italy so everyone is traveling, avoid that. Tourist shit is open for the hoards but so much else shuts down, nobody wants to do anything I tell you.
Went there in early March and was surprised to find it in a better state than the last time I went, which was about a decade ago. Barely saw any arab/black scammers or touts and streets were by and large clean. Maybe it was just due to it being the off-season, but I still saw plenty of the frickers in Barcelona, while I only saw maybe 3 in Rome, and all of them were near the Trevi Fountain.
I just came back from Rome after a 4 weeks stay across Italy, here's my takeaway:
City itself is pretty lively, traffic is hardcore in some parts at peak hours and taxis are 50/50 between metered official taxis and scammers charging you a flat fee from point A to point B.
When i arrived i was in the line for the "official taxis" that charged 50 euros from the airport to downtown rome and some random guy came and asked me to follow him outside of the queue for a taxi, then we crossed the street and walked straight to the indoor parking in front of the airport and told me it was legit and that i shouldnt worry, as soon as we arrived he wanted me to get into an elevator and i told him to frick off and went back to the official line. Turns out it was a limousine service scam where they lure tourists into expensive car taxis and charge them 200-250$ euros last minute. So when you arrive and you see someone trying to take you away from the official taxi line in the airport be careful. The airport taxi employee lady saw him trying to lure tourists away from the official line and didn't do anything to stop him so they really don't care if scammers operate in the airport.
With that said it's the only negative experience i had.
Also, people flock to tourist attractions, the trevi fountain is a zoo, the Colosseum is worth a visit but guided tours bought on second hand websites can get expensive. The roman forum isn't worth it as it's jam packed with people, in summer it's too hot and you despite buying the full access pass you still can't get on top of the hill for the view without dishing out extra dollars at the "full experience pass" which is a total scam to considering how overpriced shit is. I'd simply get a Colosseum ticket to visit the place.
The Vatican is worth visiting from the outside, take pictures and move on. The Vatican Museum is the biggest scam in all of Rome considering the tickets are always booked and you need to overpay for guided tour tickets.
The guided tours are absolutely useless because the place is crowded to the point where everyone is jam packed like sardines and you can't enjoy any of the art work, rooms, monuments and can barely hear your tour guide in the earphone. It was so disturbingly crowded that the slight incident would cause a crowd crush and hundreds of people would die as there is no emergency exit in most areas and its a one path tour, i still don't understand why the Vatican even allows this. The visit is a one way path so if you want to exit you have to follow the crowd of people all the way to the end at the Sistine Chapel which is overflowing with tourists so you can't even enjoy it either. Then you have to take the exit and walk all the way back to the main entrance but is less crowded, yet still annoying considering you couldn't enjoy anything there.
So avoid the main tourist attractions besides the Colosseum, Trevi fountain since its free, and the Pantheon. Everything else is a meme and i suggest you visit the palazzos and art galleries like the Dora Pamphili which is worth the money and isn't packed with moronic tourists.
The food is great in most places, i suggest Al Vicolo 9 and Al Viminale as both were cheap and home made foods.
>The roman forum isn't worth it as it's jam packed with people, in summer it's too hot and you despite buying the full access pass you still can't get on top of the hill for the view without dishing out extra dollars at the "full experience pass" which is a total scam to considering how overpriced shit is. I'd simply get a Colosseum ticket to visit the place.
Gotta disagree with this. The forum is absolutely worth seeing, especially since it's included with Colosseum tickets. Not sure what you mean about needing to pay to get on the hill. Anyone could go up the hill, and the only things you may need to pay extra for are interior sites like Augustus' house (though these were also included for free with my basic Colosseum entry).
Roman forum is worth seeing when its not peak tourist times and the hill you need to pay extra now, i was there a few weeks back with the full access ticket and it still wasnt enough.
I would book a tour for the roman forum so at least you get proper explanations and infos as well.
But during peak tourist times its just a zoo and with the june/july heat it gets more annoying than anything. You cant enjoy anything at all during those times. I'd rather go there in the fall when everyone fricks off back home and you get only the richer tourists/locals visiting it.
it was stressful, before the refugees came