every city in the state is a run down, gray, economically depressed, dirty, decaying crime ridden urine smelling hellhole
Appalachian trail is neat but that's literally it and it's not unquie to the state.
PA resident here. Pittsburgh is a shithole second only to Philly.
libshits from philly and pittsburgh picked him. everywhere else is conservative. also didn't he just advocate for better border control? i saw people sperging about something like that recently.
https://i.imgur.com/MmuKxXd.png
Explain how you people chose this orangutan. Says everything I need to know about PA.
No, they didn't. I lived in a small town in PA that was flooded with THOUSANDS OF OUT OF STATE cars come election day.
Pittsburgh is a true shithole. Horrible weather, infrastructure that is decaying, women are hideous, and locals are one of the most insular group of people in the USA. There is rampant alcoholism and drug use problem with Yinzers. I hope you enjoy cloudy weather while doing meth talking about dem Stillers.
https://i.imgur.com/MmuKxXd.png
Explain how you people chose this orangutan. Says everything I need to know about PA.
PA resident here. Pittsburgh is a shithole second only to Philly.
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No, they didn't. I lived in a small town in PA that was flooded with THOUSANDS OF OUT OF STATE cars come election day.
John Fetterman is the embodiment of Pennsylvanian working class man. People say Pennsylvania is so great, but it's demographics is basically John Fetterman but replace his wife with a white landwhale. He also hid his condition very well and ran against carpetbagger Dr. Oz. GOPtards can't understand that the average white man in PA will never vote for a Mehmet even with a R next to his name.
>People say Pennsylvania is so great, but it's demographics is basically John Fetterman
So everyone is an incoherent, moronic, drooling baboon in shit stained sweatpants? Figures. >GOPtards can't understand that the average white man in PA will never vote for a Mehmet even with a R next to his name.
I guess even a baboon is better than the turkroach.
https://i.imgur.com/B6wvGEY.jpg
When a state can let something like Kensington exist, you know it's fricked. I don't know how people live in Philly with all the trash everywhere, even in so-called nice areas. What is it with the people in PA that take pride in having so little self respect? It's like they purposely make themselves look low class. They are like that frick up you knew in high school you see 20 years later and they are still there same - what used to be kind of funny is now just pathetic. There isn't a single populated place in PA that you would consider "nice" compared to other east coast cities like Boston, NY, or even DC. It's all so shitty and outright depressing.
People in Pennsylvania are weirdly insular and cliquish. Pennsylvania is a state that prides itself on doing the bare minimum culturally and it really shows.
The shorts and hoodie shit is super true. Most women there have a fetish for loser white guys. Its easier to get laid as a fat guy with a beard than being a gymrat. I know this from personal experience after I let myself go. Pennsylvania is so fricking weird and trashy
again, another moron who makes sweeping generalizations regarding PA based on Philly.
People in Pennsylvania are weirdly insular and cliquish. Pennsylvania is a state that prides itself on doing the bare minimum culturally and it really shows.
The shorts and hoodie shit is super true. Most women there have a fetish for loser white guys. Its easier to get laid as a fat guy with a beard than being a gymrat. I know this from personal experience after I let myself go. Pennsylvania is so fricking weird and trashy
>DOOD THINK ABOUT DAH CULTURE >DAH WHITE GUYS!!!
moron roachskin seething.
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correct. coincidently have the lowest crime rates too. weird huh?
4 months ago
Anonymous
I'm white, so nice try. Notice how Pennsylvanians get so vulgarly racist? Southerners are at least smart enough to keep the vulgarity behind closed doors unlike trash PA man
4 months ago
Anonymous
you brought race into it first dipshit. your mental gymnastics are outstanding.
4 months ago
Anonymous
It's the Virginia guy posting all o the vulgar hateful nonsense. He grew up in one of the worst cities in the US. Imagine a whole state full of people like him.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Are you still mad that I can read a map?
4 months ago
Anonymous
You are so crass. It really reflects poorly on your environment...
4 months ago
Anonymous
There is no more miserable place on earth than Pennsylvania. There is a saying on the east coast that that anyone wearing a Steelers or Eagles Jersey is either mentally handicapped, a homeless junky, or a felon out on parole. A lot of times, it's all three at the same time.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>There is a saying on the east coast that that anyone wearing a Steelers or Eagles Jersey is either mentally handicapped, a homeless junky, or a felon out on parole.
No there isn’t moron
>Don't forget the terrible roads
PA legit has the worst roads in the nation and I don't think anywhere else is close. Streets, highways, expressways, doesn't matter, they're all in horrendous condition. Even the fricking toll roads are atrocious which is insulting in its own right
California has 3 or 4 bad cities in a state that's almost twice the size of Italy. If they were a country, they'd have the 5th largest economy in the world. They infrastructure there isn't broken at all. The economy is booming and they create a massive amount of revenue. Most of their problems stem from the liberal attitude towards immigration, homelessness, drugs and crime. They take in too many people and hemorrhage money caring for them. They let people sleep on the streets and openly use drugs. LA, Oakland, Fresno, Sacramento and San Francisco could solve 90 percent of their problems in a week by closing the border to Mexico and bussing all of the homeless people to some prefab housing out in Barstow.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I spent the first 25 years of my life in Cali and it is the most unlivable soulless shithole in the US, possibly the world. There's a reason why literal millions are fleeing it in droves.
-Zero public transport, everything that can be called a "street" is permanently jam-packed with 8 lanes of traffic. Takes 2 hours to get anywhere and the air quality is so bad it's visible. Visible air.
-Zero jobs to be found anywhere, whether you're an unskilled immigrant or an educated native. You need a master's degree and 12 years experience to work at mcdonalds. The job market is so oversaturated that employers can be as picky as they like. I once stood in an hour long line for interviews to be a Starbucks barista.
-Everything is expensive and the state is completely unaffordable unless you're a celebrity, crypto neet or a silicon valley zoomer. "Stop being poo-" b***h I'm a scientist and I can't even afford a house.
-Home to the most racist, self-flagellating white people in the world. You could remove every black person in the state and the universities would still be overwhelmingly pro-CRT pro-feminism pro-idpol. It's an innate cultural problem and rotten to the core.
-Muh 5 citi- Lake Elsinore is/was the meth capital of the US. Gas costs $5/gal up the I5 in the central valley. People have shitugly water-guzzling lawns everywhere from Sacramento to Palm Springs and then complain that farming is expensive.
Cali is a state that simply does not work for 99% of regular people. It is a place for elites to abuse the common man.
3 months ago
Anonymous
If you're applying to work as a barista in California and taking public transport, you were never going to make it there. Public transport is for homeless people, felons out on parole and new illegal immigrants. Everyone else can afford a car. The paradigm you're living under where you assume that all successful people must be abusing the lower class is ridiculous. Your failure is your own problem. You probably smoked too much weed in high school, or maybe your mom did drugs while she was pregnant with you. More than likely, it's just bad genetics holding you back. Luckily for you, there are places like Wichita Kansas where people who are a little slower and little uglier can move to and have a great life.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Way to out yourself as larping and never having been to cali. People having cars *is the problem*. You can own 4 lambos and all 4 of them will sit in the same shitass traffic as everyone else going 2 mph. The state is overpopulated (by people who can afford cars) and devoid of infrastructure. These are "everyone" problems.
3 months ago
Anonymous
That sounds terrible, but the reality is that I was in shorts and t-shirt this afternoon playing catch with my dog in a giant empty green field with the birds chirping while everyone else in the country is freezing their asses off. You pay extra to live here for a reason bro.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>-Zero public transport, everything that can be called a "street" is permanently jam-packed with 8 lanes of traffic. Takes 2 hours to get anywhere and the air quality is so bad it's visible. Visible air.
oh so you only lived in Los angeles. Moron
3 months ago
Anonymous
Well written, I’ve never been to California as an adult but i laughed hard reading this
3 months ago
Anonymous
That's LA. If you ever drive between LA and San Francisco, you'd see nothing but farmland and few small towns. The entire northern part of the state is just empty wilderness. California is larger than Italy. There's no traffic out in the middle of a forest. If you're an unmarried 29 year old barista making minimum wage, you probably want to think about living somewhere besides southern California. If you're a nurse, or a programmer, an attorney, a dermatologist, a dentist or possess a useful degree, southern California is a great place to live. A Nurse Practitioner in Orange County can make $200K+. You'd make half that in Florida or Kentucky. Even when you factor in the extra cost of living, you come out way ahead in California.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I've made a map of the worst states based of mentions ITT. California technically didn't have anyone say it was the worst but might as well be a declaration. Also I added in all states where multiple are mentioned (including the worst to live/people/infrastructure etc.). All in green had no mention and are thus good states (?)
3 months ago
Anonymous
>ohio >1
Lol.
Lmao.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Updated map. Yes Ohio didn't get many referrals but now it's picked up a bit (I also included (you) as a shout for Ohio).
Mountainbros are ou happy so far? Same for the Carolinas and New Englanders.
And yes the colours are probably different it's been a bit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Thanks for the update. VT/ME/NH are too obscure for most people to criticize
3 months ago
Anonymous
CORRECTION: Missouri should be at 1. My apologies.
2 months ago
Anonymous
How is Louisiana this high? You can feel how shitty the state is the moment you switch from Texas roads to Louisiana roads, and it's actually that cheap between flood insurance, car insurance, and a surprising amount of taxes relative to the below-par wages.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>how is
Tiny, shit sample size. This isn't a survey population its a banter board
2 months ago
Anonymous
I think you mean how is it this low? It's based on mentions I can't determine it but I'll take you word into account next time.
2 months ago
Anonymous
It is hard for me to vote due to my limited exposure- I honestly haven't explored much of the country. All I know is OK was the most un-enjoyable place to drive through and there were a significant amount of weed stores there. There was a lot of cows and farmland which was cool, but as soon as you hit a town it was like 30% weed and speed traps. Therefore, OK gets my vote.
It is interesting to compare this to population density.
Does MO have a lot going for it? I've only traveled around south MO on the highways. Lots of forests and smaller towns besides St. Louis (which I've visited and didn't care for at all). Maybe I'm missing out not seeing the north side.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I visited LA last year as a tourist and was a pleasant experience (although an expensive one)
Living over there seems like a struggle for the locals though, traffic is not as bad as it could be you know, I've been to countries where the highways are composed of two lanes each way and there are no alternative routes lmao
2 months ago
Anonymous
>master's degree and 12 years experience to work at mcdonalds. The job market is so oversaturated that employers can be as picky as they like. I once stood in an hour long line for interviews to be a Starbucks barista.
Its bad but it ain't that bad you demoralizing wienerhead. You can get a cashier/bagger job without even a high school diploma. >elites
kek
2 months ago
Anonymous
Fat worm/10, Pretty good score.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>They take in too many people and hemorrhage money caring for them.
Based on the lack of results compared to the amount of money spent, it seems like the vast majority of it must be going to corrupt contractors and officials and not actually helping people.
Honestly, no, I don't. They're nice but very standoffish which is probably to be expected. I do not understand the touristic appeal of amish country at all. >omg people on a farm and they're using horses!
Like really? This is impressive? It's not even that interesting that they live in 1880, a little quaint maybe.
I went to an amish run restaurant once in amish country and it was very basic food, mashed potatoes and chicken with gravy stuff which was ok but like I don't think I'd ever go out of the way again to see the amish. Even my grandparents that took us there weren't that impressed. The amish are your state's biggest selling point? Really?
People in Pennsylvania are weirdly insular and cliquish. Pennsylvania is a state that prides itself on doing the bare minimum culturally and it really shows.
The shorts and hoodie shit is super true. Most women there have a fetish for loser white guys. Its easier to get laid as a fat guy with a beard than being a gymrat. I know this from personal experience after I let myself go. Pennsylvania is so fricking weird and trashy
PA is not even close to the worst. More like one of the best.
The state is packed with enjoyable history, culture, natural surroundings, regional industries, based amish, diners, drive-in movie theaters, amusement parks everywhere, best antique malls and flea markets in the country.. the list goes on.. >Best places
Lititz
Phoenixville
Jim Thorpe
Ephrata
Gettysburg
Lancaster
Mars
New Hope
Milford
Doylestown
Kennett Square
Hershey
>Milford
I refuse to believe there's anything there. It's the middle of goddamn nowhere. >Jim Thorpe >a train line >a dead athlete from Oklahoma >Gettysburg
A war happened here, once. It's about as notable as Valley Forge >Mars
Pittsburgh, that's just fricking Pittsburgh >Lancaster >New Hope >Doylestown >Kennett Square >Phoenixville >Lititz >Frick it, let's add Reading too
That's just the Philadelphia orbital, just say greater Philadelphia >Hershey
They got chocolate, it's alright
libshits from philly and pittsburgh picked him. everywhere else is conservative. also didn't he just advocate for better border control? i saw people sperging about something like that recently.
Maryland, and mostly for that middle part between DC and Baltimore. The eastern shore and that western part are nice. It should be really compact and easy to get around, but it embodies all the worst aspects of American urban design. It's filled with every freaky foreigner and minority from places you've never heard of and closer to the cities are filled with Black folk who are surly and nasty at best and dangerous at worst.
Oz was a terrible candidate. Pennsylvania voters will vote Republican (they did in 2016), but not when the only choice is some establishment neocon or an unknown.
You know why the part between DC and Baltimore is so freaky right? Nothing but glowies live there. Like whole CIA/FBI neighborhoods, the whole atmosphere is really disturbing
every city in the state is a run down, gray, economically depressed, dirty, decaying crime ridden urine smelling hellhole
Appalachian trail is neat but that's literally it and it's not unquie to the state.
Pittsburgh isn't that bad at all. What are you on about?
shithole.
I grew up in PA, thankfully I have since escaped the US to greener pastures. PA is basically the Russian doomer aesthetic but with none of the hot Russian women, McMansions instead of commieblocs, more blacks and more junkies. The hoeflation there is extreme, any even moderately frickable girl has the worst personality you could imagine.
>but with none of the hot Russian women,
You can actually see the hot Russian women in the NE Philly/Bucks county area, but guess what? THEY'RE ALL MARRIED.
Lol. I'm posting from Philadelphia right now at my hotel. I've been nothing but b***hing how dirty this place is. Im from the Bay area so blacks aren't anything out of the ordinary but the blacks here are another breed and they are fking everywhere. San Francisco is dirty but this place is just something else. They also give me and my wife weird looks because we look straight Mexican. I see almost no Mexicans, just blacks and whites everywhere. The old colonial w/e era shit gives me the creeps too. Can't wait to get out of this hell hole tomorrow.
It's dumb to judge a state by it's big shitties, but Philly, Pittsburgh, Allentown and Scranton are really not that bad comparatively to the big cities of other east coast states. I think they have more polarizing neighborhoods than your average cities but thats sort of the appeal of them in a way. Like one can go to South Street, Manayunk or Fishtown or even the touristy historic district and get a city that rivals any others on the east coast. Or you can go to Kensington or West Philly but why the FRICK would you go to those places when you've been warned by everyone and everything to not go there. It's not like Chicago where you could get carjacked in Naperville or Joliet let alone any of the touristy places there.
Philly and Pittsburgh have way more safe and quality of life places than any midwest or west coast city hands down.
Allentown and Scranton are sizeable cities that don't feel that big and have a decent amount of things to do in their surrounding areas.
And the suburbs and smaller towns in eastern PA are some of the best places to live in the country.
PA hate is dumb. It's a state with a lot going for it across the board. People need to stop focusing on the fact that the corrupt politicians were nice enough to put all the junkies and trash in their own little enclaves throughout the state.
The fact that these places exist is a blessing, and the countless good places we got as a result are criminally under appreciated.
>Philly and Pittsburgh have way more safe and quality of life places than any midwest or west coast city hands down.
Might be the most moronic thing I've read all week
>Cleveland >Detroit >Chicago >San Francisco >LA
are you really trying to tell me anywhere in any of these cities are close at all to be being as safe or liveable as Philly's best neighborhoods and suburbs?
>Milford
I refuse to believe there's anything there. It's the middle of goddamn nowhere. >Jim Thorpe >a train line >a dead athlete from Oklahoma >Gettysburg
A war happened here, once. It's about as notable as Valley Forge >Mars
Pittsburgh, that's just fricking Pittsburgh >Lancaster >New Hope >Doylestown >Kennett Square >Phoenixville >Lititz >Frick it, let's add Reading too
That's just the Philadelphia orbital, just say greater Philadelphia >Hershey
They got chocolate, it's alright
>Nothing in Milford
Grey Towers, Dingman's Ferry and Bushkill Falls are some of the most beautiful spots on the east coast. >Jim Thorpe nonsense
Amazing historical town with cool old buildings and mansions >Gettysburg sucks
The actual town is filled with great restaurants and museums, and the battlefield is one of the most preserved historical parks in the country >List of towns that are commonly listed as some of the best places to live in the US
These places are almost all 50-100+ miles away from Philly. >Hershey
Quaint downtown with great dining and town history built on American manufacturing and one of the best amusement parks on the east coast
Toss up between Nebraska and Oklahoma. Nebraska is full of nice but fat cornfeeders and they have no actual downtown in places like Omaha. Lincoln is nice but micro as frick. Oklahoma has a somewhat true downtown in Tulsa, they've even got good looking thin girls there, but holy shit they are all legitimately mentally ill. After a single visit to Oklahoma you completely understand why Tiger King is from there. For some reason Oklahoma either attracts or turns people completely insane, and I was hanging out with some of the richest people in the city at the time.
>>they are all legitimately mentally ill
You can say that about every modern western female and it has nothing to do with Oklahoma, you're just pulling at straws to astroturf for shitty philly and Pennsylvania
I've only been to 9 states, and I'm gonna have to say Idaho. I don't hate it, it's just mathematics. >only visited 9 states >had more fun in the other 8 >simple as
My answer would definitely change if I visit more states and have a bad time, or just less fun.
Definitely not PA. My camper van died in the middle of nowhere in rural PA...fuel pump finally seized up. No cell service. Locals were helpful and honest without being overly friendly or nosy, got me back on the road promptly. Quality backwoods people in the heart of the state. Also, lots of beautiful state forests.
Been to 30-something states now, I’d put Arizona near the top. Hellish weather in the summer and it’s filled with geriatrics and wild-eyed beaners of unknown provenance. Phoenix fricking sucks, so does Tucson. Heard flagstaff was ok but there’s no way it makes up for the rest of the state. Northern Arizona is the most desolate place I’ve ever driven through, looks like Fallout. I drove past a place advertising 50 acres for $75k right across from some huge factory shitting out black smoke into the sky.
The desert is no fricking joke. The government tested over a hundred atomic bombs in Arizona and Nevada and New Mexico, if you go far enough out there you WILL find super mutants, aliens, bunkers, cartels, heavily guarded military installations with unmarked personnel, inner earth entrances, it's LITERALLY Fallout. Do NOT take acid out in Death Valley. I'll say the only time I had a culture shock in the US was when I stopped at a busy Walmart passing through Phoenix at midnight and every other person there was Native American. It really spooked me. The Grand Canyon is cool just don't go looking for the mummies or you'll have black hawks watching you
I have lived in: >Texas >New Mexico >Arizona >Pennsylvania
Texas was easily the worst. Full of beaners who are extremely racist and barely speak english. Love to blast their Hispanic music all day long and Hispanic cops refuse to do anything about it. Bigger cities are just a mix of nigs and spics.
Not only is it fricking empty. I do not remember seeing a single tourism brochure at any rest stop. I do not remember seeing any attractions signs.
The interstate between Missouri and Texas was LITERALLY lined the ENTIRE WAY with construction barrels. The road care was so shitty. Absolute hellhole of a state.
I’m sure the Ozarks are nice but the rest of the state is a barren hellhole.
You must have taken 55 from STL down to 40/30 through Little Rock to Texas? 40 east of Little Rock is one of the most potholed stretches of interstate in the country, just all heavy truck traffic all the time and they can't keep up with undoing the road damage from that. But Arkansas has a ton of outdoors tourist shit, pretty much everywhere except for that stretch of 55. Skill issue if you crossed the whole state and didn't see any
Can confirm the Ozarks are probably the nicest part of the state. Places like Bella Vista and Little Flock are pretty fricking nice and it's relatively cheap. Northwest Arkansas is absolutely, creepily obsessed with Walmart since they literally own the state, but otherwise the vibe is pretty relaxed and easygoing if somewhat boring. I went in the winter though and so the landscape was kinda barren and stark, particularly in Bentonville which is flat af and without much to bring to the table aside from being close to the relatively more interesting city of Fayetteville and the sexy hills/rivers at the foot of the Ozarks. But frick me is it impossible to get around without a car. I wouldn't even want to try.
It's alright. It feels like a small town in Mexico which is cool I guess, because its in the US, but that's not a lot to write home about. And its just a giant marketplace of different stores selling ristras and ugly turquoise israeliteelery like who buys that shit anyway?
Everyone says NM sucks. I love NM. Top tier SighSee activities, unique geology and national parks, low cost of living, amazing food, generally friendly people. It’s just poor.
I always can't wait to leave this place.
Hot, flat, bleak and so fricking spread out it takes forever to do anything, which requires lots of driving. Mexican Food is fricking awful there, disgusting concoctions of canned cheese and other Amerislop that's completely unknown in Mexico, despite having the largest border with that country.
Texans gush about the place and rattle off reasons its so great like "the sweet tea here contains extra sugar, compared to other states" and they're also invariably performatively religious and start conversations with "what church do you to go?"
Oh, and a ton of Black folk too!
It's all the worst true stereotypes about the U.S. in one place.
Texas has 2 redeeming qualities. Beef and the Mexicans there are actually pretty based unlike the other border states.
>mexicans there are actually pretty based
not a fricking chance moron. they are all fat as fatass. blare their shitty music constantly, cant speak english at all, and have the iq of children.
>they are all fat as fatass
They're no less fat than the average American. Almost every one I've seen is either fat, a twig, or ripped for one reason or another. Hardly anyone in-between.
>cant speak english at all >cant
Bold words from an ESL.
>Mexicans there are actually pretty based unlike the other border states.
That was my take home from living in Texas for a year. I would take 10 Texan Mexicans every day over one Chicago black
Getting angry about the great replacement is so 2019
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Cannot help but notice how no one here has mentioned Alabama. Because I am sure absolutely no one has ever willingly gone into Alabama, nor close to it either.
You want a frustratingly hot, 100% humidity, hellish nightmare state with no ocean nearby for 99% of it. The beach parts are all swampland and not really something one goes to.
Majority of the state is rural no go zone with either black neighborhoods or meth addict trailer parks.
2nd largest black population in the nation, 1st is next door Mississippi
The middle belt is routinely destroyed by tornado.
No decent parks at all worth going to that any other state does not have a much much better version of.
Every city is run down and poor, they look like they built their last building somewhere around the 1960s at the latest.
And it has a fricking insane level of petty crime and armed robbery for such a rural, low population state.
I think its just that alabama/louisiana etc have been useless backwaters for forever and everyone knows it.
Places like PA turning into literal third world dogshit is new.
https://i.imgur.com/IaTG2UU.jpg
It's the worst state I've been to because it's the only state I've been to.
>Never left a US state in entire life
Idk maybe this board isnt going to be your thing. Youre sure you arent lost?
>>they are all legitimately mentally ill
You can say that about every modern western female and it has nothing to do with Oklahoma, you're just pulling at straws to astroturf for shitty philly and Pennsylvania
Nah, I know the type hes describing and hes right.
left a US state in entire life >Idk maybe this board isnt going to be your thing. Youre sure you arent lost?
I'm not American and I don't live in the US
I've done 40/50. The states that really stood out as terrible to me are Mississippi, Alabama, Iowa, Kansas and Illinois (with the lone exception of Chicago which is rad).
For anyone saying Arizona, you haven't traveled enough in the state. I've traveled quite a bit in Arizona and done some epic shit, ie: The Grand Canyon, Sedona, Fossil Creek Falls, Havasu Falls, Devil's Bridge, Lake Havasu, the Salt River, Coconino National Forest, etc. But you couldn't pay me to go there in the summer. Frick that shit.
Brit here who has hitchhiked through 16 states. Easily the worst state is Texas. It's fricking huge and there is nothing there. The cities are all awful and it is the only state I've hitchhiked in where I was propositioned for sex with a man and it happened twice.
I would also like add that anyone who judges as US state on it's cities is ridiculous because most American cities now are awful, any local culture has been so obviously sucked out of all the
cities and replaced by chain restaurants and screaming homeless men.
America at its best is small towns and wide open countryside which is why Utah is the best state.
Maryland has 3,000 miles of coastline. The best beach camping I've ever done that wasn't in Hawaii was on Assateague Island Maryland. The eastern shore produces some of the best vegetables I've ever eaten in the world. Maryland blue Crabs are god tier. Ocean City Maryland is fricking wild. I don't know that there's a better party beach in America. The OC boardwalk is one of the best in the US. They're also close to a lot of things, beaches, Philly, NYC, Washington DC, Annapolis, Ocean City, Shenandoah National Park, etc. Even Baltimore is pretty fun. Would I live in Maryland? Probably not. But is it worse than Kansas, Alabama, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, Arkansas, Minnesota, or Illinois? Definitely not.
Virginia Beach looks ghetto as shit. I'll pass on that one. lol
4 months ago
Anonymous
Brother, I am a sheltered white boy but Myrtle Beach South Carolina is the most ghetto place I have seen in my entire life. Virginia Beach is like heaven compared.
i've lived in virginia my whole life and yes there is so much here. i would recommend avoiding most of the eastern parts as they are overflooded with Black folk and ghettos, richmond too, and just stick to the north and west/southwest. north if you like history, west if you like nature. the appalachian mountains are the most beautiful in the world (in my biased opinion) lots of great parks, and there are tons of museums and civil war battlefields all over the place
Virginia with more Black folk that infest the state like a cancer. With the added bonus of 40% of the state also being mystery meat.
Maryland by far is the worst state and should be nuked, and it’s people are a cancer that spread to the rest of the north east and mid Atlantic
Maryland has 3,000 miles of coastline. The best beach camping I've ever done that wasn't in Hawaii was on Assateague Island Maryland. The eastern shore produces some of the best vegetables I've ever eaten in the world. Maryland blue Crabs are god tier. Ocean City Maryland is fricking wild. I don't know that there's a better party beach in America. The OC boardwalk is one of the best in the US. They're also close to a lot of things, beaches, Philly, NYC, Washington DC, Annapolis, Ocean City, Shenandoah National Park, etc. Even Baltimore is pretty fun. Would I live in Maryland? Probably not. But is it worse than Kansas, Alabama, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, Arkansas, Minnesota, or Illinois? Definitely not.
Maryland has 3,000 miles of coastline. The best beach camping I've ever done that wasn't in Hawaii was on Assateague Island Maryland. The eastern shore produces some of the best vegetables I've ever eaten in the world. Maryland blue Crabs are god tier. Ocean City Maryland is fricking wild. I don't know that there's a better party beach in America. The OC boardwalk is one of the best in the US. They're also close to a lot of things, beaches, Philly, NYC, Washington DC, Annapolis, Ocean City, Shenandoah National Park, etc. Even Baltimore is pretty fun. Would I live in Maryland? Probably not. But is it worse than Kansas, Alabama, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, Arkansas, Minnesota, or Illinois? Definitely not.
>Assateague Island Maryland.
is that were the horses are? that's probably puts it abot 15 states
Yea, the horses just wander around aimlessly eating shrubs.
So it's Virginia but worse
Virginia has some beautiful places to visit in the countryside but the food is not nearly as good as in Maryland. I got hooked on Maryland seafood. The roadside BBQ's and produce stands on the eastern shore in Maryland spoiled me for life. Baltimore was a really good bar and food destination too. The Federal Hill and Fells Point areas both had a great bar scene that was nearly all white middle class and felt safe. I'd go back to Baltimore or Annapolis and do a bar crawl any time.
The main problem I have with Virginia is that the 2 large beach cities are overcrowded, extremely black, and have horrible crime problems. I would never go back to Virginia Beach. It's fricking rough. I also hated Richmond with a passion. The girls were fat as shit and covered in bad tattoos.. The bars downtown in Richmond were in a bad area. And there were a lot of sketchy nogs everywhere. Three places I do really like in Virginia were Old Town Alexandria, Shenandoah National Park and Tangier Island. But I'll take those Maryland beaches and seafood over anything in Virginia.
>Maryland seafood
Literally no different from Virginia >Hampton Roads and Richmond
Sure they suck, but I'm from fricking Newport News of all places and Baltimore and Ocean City are too shitty skeezy even for my low standards.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I've traveled to 42 out of the 50 US states (I'm a pilot so I've been about everywhere).
Worst is Maryland.
Overpriced as frick, nothing to do, feral, violent, unintelligible blacks run the cities.
The crab was decent but doesn't make up for it.
Yes, I would pick Kansas/Oklahoma/Nebraska any day over Maryland.
Second worst is probably Illinois.
If I had the choice between living in Newport News or having a testicle removed, I would let them cut open my sack without a second thought. The fact that you grew up in arguably one of the top 5 worst small cities in the US, your opinion on the matter of is obviously going to be skewed. The crazy part is that Newport News is getting worse. I wouldn't be worried about what's overpriced", I'd get my ass out of Virginia and never look back. Your parents were morons for not moving to the eastern shore of Maryland and not moving to a nice little town like Crisfield. Sounds like the apple didn't fall far from the tree.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Maryland sucks. All of the upsides you mentioned, with the exception of fricking Baltimore, which is even more of a total shithole than Newport News, can be found in Virginia
I live in Baltimore, and while I appreciate your effort, and I agree Maryland is not the worst state, it’s certainly nowhere near the best. But for me it’s home, and I love it.
Loved the US anons - me and two buddies from Australia picked a Jeep up in LA and drove west to east ending up in Miami. In every state we had nothing but great experiences. Worst state was United Airlines, crewed by 70 year old gay pensioners and other ancient trash. United - how come you are still in business?
That's not a state but United used to be the best airline and is now the worst. That's what getting run by a hedge fund CEO with no airline experience does.
Hands down Indiana. Filled with racist fat boomers, turbo methromancers, and lividly insane christians. The first thing I saw was a giant sign that said "there is proof of God" and a McDonald's billboard and I knew exactly what I was in for. Indiana needs to be purified down to the last fat boomer.
A lot of Anons are right in that there is no "real" reason to visit Indiana, nothing unique about it that you cannot experience in a different state. Another anon said it's a cozy place to raise kids and I agree - despite the meth use, basically a cleaner version of Ohio (did not get rust-belted as hard as other states/regions). Stay out of Gary and the feral part of Indy and you'd forget that magic Americans exist.
I grew up in Chicago and had friends that went to both IU and Purdue - visiting their campuses on game day was like a bougie version of game day on southern campuses, without the moronic poverty/low-classness of places like Clemson or USC.
>Overpriced as frick, nothing to do, feral, violent, unintelligible blacks run the cities.
Why you gotta stick to the rural areas like eastern shore or western MD near the mountains. Once you're away from the Black person cities and suburbs filled with DC glowie commuters, it's not so bad. Still wouldn't recommend it cause like you said, it's overpriced, but it helps >ex-MD homosexual
It's not because most of those states is flat, that's fine and pretty in its own way. There isn't much to do compared to other places, but that's not why I disliked them either. People were just ugly weird buttholes there.
TN, AL, AR, and MS do have nice people. Those states get shit on too much. Same with Indiana and Ohio, I don't know why they get hated on.
I don't really like Iowa. It's like my state (Kansas) but Iowans don't realize it's another boring, midwest ag state like Kansans do and act like it's paradise.
Wait really? I don't know anyone here in Iowa that pretends like we are some paradise, in fact on the contrary, I have heard Iowans denigrate the state for it's lack of nature (which is well deserved).
Visited 18 states + DC. Another 2 states if you count stops.
The absolute worst one to visit was Connecticut. It didn't even seem like that bad of a state in general, but it was not at all interesting. >Stamford area: commuter hell for NYC workers. >New Haven: rust beltesque shithole, very dirty, rundown. Only has pizza and Yale. >Hartford: boring, soulless, and cultureless political center of CT. >New London - Groton - Mystic: The only interesting part of CT to visit, and one that I liked. The problem is that everything there is done better in RI or MA. >I-95/I-91: Even if you're not visiting CT and instead visiting one of the better New England states, you have to drive the state the long way and it never seems to end.
I don't travel to places to "check them off" or anything like that. If I don't have a solid reason to go, I won't go. But I was so happy to finally leave CT thinking, "I'll never have to come back here again." Haven't felt that way about another state yet.
Cannot help but notice how no one here has mentioned Alabama. Because I am sure absolutely no one has ever willingly gone into Alabama, nor close to it either.
You want a frustratingly hot, 100% humidity, hellish nightmare state with no ocean nearby for 99% of it. The beach parts are all swampland and not really something one goes to.
Majority of the state is rural no go zone with either black neighborhoods or meth addict trailer parks.
2nd largest black population in the nation, 1st is next door Mississippi
The middle belt is routinely destroyed by tornado.
No decent parks at all worth going to that any other state does not have a much much better version of.
Every city is run down and poor, they look like they built their last building somewhere around the 1960s at the latest.
And it has a fricking insane level of petty crime and armed robbery for such a rural, low population state.
Alabama is definitely in the bottom 5. All of the small towns that might be nice have a ton of blacks and a serious crime problem. They rank 5th is assaults and 7th in murders in the US. Add that to the terrible weather, the giant mosquitoes, the lack of any large city worth visiting, the seasonal hurricanes, and the fact that there are no real national parks, I can't think of a compelling reason to visit. The actual beachfront on the the coastline is only 30 miles long. Cross over into Florida and it's much nicer. It's also a bad place to drive through because the cops are notoriously corrupt in Alabama. You could say almost the exact thing about Mississippi and Louisiana. New Orleans might be worth a day or two, but the crime is so fricking outrageously bad in Louisiana that I have no desire to see it. The creole cuisine is amazing, but who the frick wants to deal with the crime bullshit? It's not cheep to stay in the French quarter either. For the same price of a flight and a week in a hotel in New Orleans in March, you could fly to France and do a week in the French Riviera or go to the Alps and see Chamonix, Annecy and Chambery where the crime is literally 100 times lower.
i frick with alabama frick out of here. if you actually research the stats alabama is at least top 15. in reality it's top 10 places in america, america is simply not that great. another good place to live is west virginia constantly getting shit on. it's safe and cheap and right next to all the big cities and directly on the mountains, has culture and architecture, everything you'd want. there's no jobs in the cities either there's no benefit of a city so what's the point. everyone is moving to the empty states and filling them up and soon cali and new york will be the desolate ones
Alabama is definitely in the bottom 5. All of the small towns that might be nice have a ton of blacks and a serious crime problem. They rank 5th is assaults and 7th in murders in the US. Add that to the terrible weather, the giant mosquitoes, the lack of any large city worth visiting, the seasonal hurricanes, and the fact that there are no real national parks, I can't think of a compelling reason to visit. The actual beachfront on the the coastline is only 30 miles long. Cross over into Florida and it's much nicer. It's also a bad place to drive through because the cops are notoriously corrupt in Alabama. You could say almost the exact thing about Mississippi and Louisiana. New Orleans might be worth a day or two, but the crime is so fricking outrageously bad in Louisiana that I have no desire to see it. The creole cuisine is amazing, but who the frick wants to deal with the crime bullshit? It's not cheep to stay in the French quarter either. For the same price of a flight and a week in a hotel in New Orleans in March, you could fly to France and do a week in the French Riviera or go to the Alps and see Chamonix, Annecy and Chambery where the crime is literally 100 times lower.
Lived in Alabama for 25 years. Agreed that there’s no reason to visit (except Gulf Shores / Orange Beach) but it can be a nice place to live. Plenty of lakes, coastline, conservative, nice suburbs, decent nature, low cost of living and cheap land.
Alabama is definitely in the bottom 5. All of the small towns that might be nice have a ton of blacks and a serious crime problem. They rank 5th is assaults and 7th in murders in the US. Add that to the terrible weather, the giant mosquitoes, the lack of any large city worth visiting, the seasonal hurricanes, and the fact that there are no real national parks, I can't think of a compelling reason to visit. The actual beachfront on the the coastline is only 30 miles long. Cross over into Florida and it's much nicer. It's also a bad place to drive through because the cops are notoriously corrupt in Alabama. You could say almost the exact thing about Mississippi and Louisiana. New Orleans might be worth a day or two, but the crime is so fricking outrageously bad in Louisiana that I have no desire to see it. The creole cuisine is amazing, but who the frick wants to deal with the crime bullshit? It's not cheep to stay in the French quarter either. For the same price of a flight and a week in a hotel in New Orleans in March, you could fly to France and do a week in the French Riviera or go to the Alps and see Chamonix, Annecy and Chambery where the crime is literally 100 times lower.
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Lived in Alabama for 25 years. Agreed that there’s no reason to visit (except Gulf Shores / Orange Beach) but it can be a nice place to live. Plenty of lakes, coastline, conservative, nice suburbs, decent nature, low cost of living and cheap land.
There is one nice area in Alabama and it's Birmingham. The city managed to bounce back from the manufacturing decline to become a hub for finance and banking with a surprising amount of amenities offered by the downtown core. The surrounding suburbs are rough though, and fits all the negative stereotypes about the state.
The suburbs are great what are you talking about. The city has pockets of niceness but overall it's mostly a corpse with like 40% of the population it used to, and 80% of that population is melanin.
alabama is fricking based pussy
you can buy a house cheap as frick
it has everything to do that you can do in a big city you just have to drive to it. alabama is actually a fun place to live plus it has its own beach and mountains close by. it can get decently cold in alabama even snow sometimes. alabama is just chill the government there is kinda based so is mississippi
Traveling through Nebraska the only thought on my mind was "I cannot believe that people live here" and it made me miss New Hampshire. I'm sure I wasn't given the best representation of the state but it was very dull.
You're crazy. Florida has 800+ miles of beach. he stretch of beaches from Pensacola Beach to Panama City are some of the best in the US. The seafood is amazing. There are dozens of theme parks. The Florida Keys are amazing. Clearwater is one of the only cities on the whole eastern half of the US that I would live in. How could you possibly rank Florida below Mississippi, Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Alabama, Missouri, or Ohio?
I've noticed a lot of libgays scoff at Florida whenever it gets mentioned these days; I think it's because of the politics starting back with the lax mask policy or the troony shit. It's just as ridiculous when cückservatives scoff at California just because of the politics, when it has some of the most beautiful scenery in the world and world-class cities like San Diego. Living there is a different story, but OP's prompt said what the worst state to *visit* is. If one was to visit Florida, they wouldn't be affected by the politics. Florida is still a unique place to visit and has plenty to do. There's a lot of crazy shit in Miami but also that makes it interesting.
There's also a ton of underrated stuff there too regarding the geography and history just beyond the beaches or big cities. You have St. Augustine which is a super gorgeous Spanish Colonial city from the 1500s home to a massive and miraculously well-preserved fort and town center with a ton of gorgeous gilded age buildings as well. You have the Everglades obviously, but the St. John's River valley is filled to the brim with awesome marshes and swamps, not to mention Lake Okeechobee. You can see Cape Canaveral and check out all the old NASA shit from the 60s too. Florida really has a TON of value for any type of tourist which is very impressive for just a single state. The only way you could really be dissatisfied there is either if you're politically obsessed or if you want to do mountain stuff.
>The only way you could really be dissatisfied there is either if you're politically obsessed or if you want to do mountain stuff.
I just cant get into the Florida hype. +Hate sunny weather, +love mountains, +not obsessed with politics. Though I will admit it is a darn good place if you don't already live near a coastline for what it offers.
I’ve been to 45 states. If we’re talking worst to visit, I’m not sure Iowa has any redeeming qualities. If we’re talking worst to live in, Mississippi.
I’m expecting Kansas to take Iowa’s place as worst to visit when I go there this year.
I've actually spent a good amount of time in Delaware because a friend of mine used to live there. Wilmington is a shithole, but the Delaware coast is actually great. Bethany Beach is a classic east coast beach town, mostly white, low crime, nice beaches, amazing seafood. It's worth a trip just for the crab cakes. Dewey Beach is nice. Cape Henelopen State park has some great undeveloped beaches. The Dogfish Head Brewery is right there. It's also close to a lot of shit to do like NYC, Washington DC, Ocean City Maryland, Philly. Yea. it's small and boring, and I wouldn't want to be there in the winter, but with all the good beaches, are you really going to say it's worse than Kansas?
Ocean City Maryland in the summer is glorious. The boardwalk is an endless buffet of hot girls in bikinis, great food, cheap souvenir shops and an endless beach. You can get some legit seafood. Maryland crabcakes are the real fricking deal. The bars are fricking wild at night in the summer. The hookup culture there is fantastic. It's one of the easiest places to get laid that I've ever been to.
It can be ghetto on the weekends. As long as you find a hotel or condo north of 70th street, it's a nice place. You don't want to be around the poor people at night.
Yeah so you can get little trinkets for your friends and family like a normal person does you stupid no life homosexual.
4 months ago
Anonymous
lol. called it.
The Asians run dozens of little souvenir shops in ocean city. They sell knockoff Gucci bags, weed, $10 ear piercings, airbrush t shirts, cheap beach shit. One thing I really noticed in Europe is that they don't have a lot of those kind of stores. We couldn't find a fricking basketball in Dubrovnik without driving 20 minutes into town. Same in France and in Italy. I love the good old American boardwalk where you can find a pair of sunglasses, a beach towel and a football and spend $10.
4 months ago
Anonymous
lol. called it.
The Asians run dozens of little souvenir shops in ocean city. They sell knockoff Gucci bags, weed, $10 ear piercings, airbrush t shirts, cheap beach shit. One thing I really noticed in Europe is that they don't have a lot of those kind of stores. We couldn't find a fricking basketball in Dubrovnik without driving 20 minutes into town. Same in France and in Italy. I love the good old American boardwalk where you can find a pair of sunglasses, a beach towel and a football and spend $10.
Nobody cares about there being cheap souvenir trinkets. It's a complete afterthought and a pleasant surprise at best.
4 months ago
Anonymous
No one without friends or family, I guess. I buy a lot of souvenirs and gifts for people when I travel.
Ocean City Maryland in the summer is glorious. The boardwalk is an endless buffet of hot girls in bikinis, great food, cheap souvenir shops and an endless beach. You can get some legit seafood. Maryland crabcakes are the real fricking deal. The bars are fricking wild at night in the summer. The hookup culture there is fantastic. It's one of the easiest places to get laid that I've ever been to.
It can be ghetto on the weekends. As long as you find a hotel or condo north of 70th street, it's a nice place. You don't want to be around the poor people at night.
OCMD hasn't been nice in 20+ years.
Believe me, I was there for two weeks every summer from when I was two years old to my mid-twenties.
The boardwalk itself would be one of the best in the country, if it weren't ruined by the god-awful people who vacation there.
Horrible blend of lower-middle class boomers, trash from Baltimore and Central PA, normie teens and black predators trying to rape them.
The city has a great history but much of it has been disappearing over the years.
Trimpers Haunted House at the end of the boardwalk is one of the best classic dark rides that still exist.
Fishing and seafood is some of the best on the east coast outside of new england.
However all of that including beaches are better just outside of OCMD at Assateague Island.
So if youre looking for a good beach vacation just skip OCMD and go to Assateague instead. If you want to check out the boardwalk one night, you can park at the inlet parking lot and all the best stuff on the boardwalk and the pier are right there.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Best area to stay is North OC and Fenwick Island. You can get an oceanfront room for a very decent price in comparison to other east coast beach resort towns. Just avoid staying near the boardwalk at all costs, including the blocks off the oceanfront down to the inlet.
2 months ago
Anonymous
You have to stay north of 100 street in Ocean City to avoid the brown people and Baltimore trash. Any place less than $150 a night is going to have shitty people. I've seen black families cram 10 people into those $75 200 square foot motel rooms down by the boardwalk.
How long were you in Baltimore? Just using apps to hookup? I just moved here
3 months ago
Anonymous
Different dude, but I lived there for 6 years. It's a big bar town and very easy to get laid. Federal Hill and Canton are where the white women with jobs go out to drink. It's pretty easy to meet people. I used to drink at Nobles and the bars in that neighborhood.
Dylan's top 5 least favorite states >Indiana (worst of everything) >Massachusetts (worst people) >Kansas (drive through and flyover state) >Iowa (drive through and flyover state) >Mississippi (only like the gulf coast)
Georgia was probably my least favorite state I've been to. It was 106 F in October. Atlanta is a hellhole with no redeeming qualities. Savannah is cool I guess but it's like colonial architecture and that's it.
Atlanta is just a comically awful city: >Deep South swamp ass climate >Detroit-tier demographics >Urban planning of Dallas >Northeast cost-of-living >No beach, no mountains
You could not design a less attractive place if you tried
I've been to every state and the worst is Washington. Filled with beaners, Black folk, visiting WinCo in Olympia is like going to a fricking UN refugee camp
And the idiot gay punks and empty headed liberal farmer's market denizens will still whine that "Olympia and Tumwater are tooo white boo hoo"
I've spent significant time in 45/50 states. Every state I've been to has something redeeming about it. I think it's more fair to list the worst aspects
Worst Scenery: a toss up between Nebraska, Iowa and Kansas. You really have to struggle to find something unique to see outdoors
Worst People: Pennsylvania. I've never been to an place in the US where the people were angrier than Pennsylvania.
Most Expensive: Hawaii. A beer and a plate of fried Calamari is like $60 on Maui. The resorts charge $14 for a beer and $20 for a wienertail. Gas was $6 a gallon. A steak at the grocery store was $20. I've never seen higher prices anywhere.
Worst Weather: Arizona, Nevada. You literally can't walk outside without melting for 6 months out of the year.
>Worst Weather: Arizona, Nevada. You literally can't walk outside without melting for 6 months out of the year.
I disagree. Only June-August is truly awful, the other "summer" months aren't bad. 95 degrees at 7% humidity with a slight breeze is actually pretty pleasant.
IMO the Deep South and Florida summers are much worse. Plus in Phoenix you can get in your car and be in Flagstaff (where it's 75 in July outside) in two hours. Not so much in the Southeast.
>Worst Scenery
Worst Scenery would probably be Delaware. At least the Great Plains states have a cool steppe vibe and you can see for miles, especially when there is a sunset or a big thunderstorm.
Delaware is basically just cookie cutter outlet chain stores and farms that stretch all of it's small, tax evading existence, and then Wilmington is a polluted ghetto that nobody cares about. There are beaches but they are only 'good' because it's the closest to DC. That's it. It's all recently built town homes and mowed lawns. There's hardly anything to see in the state except a few parks which are nothing special.
>Worst People
Worst people have to be Maryland. Glowing snobs with the ego of yanks and the aesthetic of rednecks. And of course it is a crime ridden hellhole. Pretty similar to Pennsylvania but more glowie. Pennsylvanians seem more down to earth and honest.
>Most Expensive
Never been to Hawaii but I'm sure it's similar to Alaska where everything is imported so the prices are ridiculous.
>Worst Weather
Arizona and Nevada are dry hot though. Alabama has the worst weather. At least in Florida it rains every day but Alabama you just have swamp ass for days and wild thunderstorms. It's absolutely insane and doesn't stop til November and I can't understand how people even live there.
Delaware is just a tiny little state though. And they have a great coastline with some really nice little beach towns and parks. I can see maybe hating it if you were from Philadelphia and the only part of it you had seen was the shithole in Wilmington, but Bethany Beach, Fenwick Island, Dewey, Cape Henlopen State Park, Slaughter Beach? There's no way you could have been to those beaches.
Worst Scenery: Oklahoma. The other plains states are boring sure, but at least they have some character and variety. Oklahoma is vast, empty, and feels like it never recovered from the Dust Bowl. Cities are gritty and shitty, and unless you like gambling on one of the shitty reservations there's no real reason to go there.
Worst People: Minnesota. They are the most confusing, rude, filthy, moronic people in the country. Interacting with any of them whether they're Somalis fresh off the boat or people whose families have been here since the Civil War feels like talking to an alien trying to approximate what being "nice" is.
t. Minnesotan born in AZ who's getting the frick out of this place this year
Most Expensive: Hawaii. Consensus is universal on that one and it's basically a shitpost at this point.
Worst Weather: A tossup between Michigan, Wisconsin, and MN. Summers are sweaty, steamy, and hot with shitty air quality, winters are Siberian, and fall/spring is a tossup between really nice perfect weather, an extension of winter and summer, or gray, cold, wetness.
>Worst People: Minnesota. They are the most confusing, rude, filthy, moronic people in the country. Interacting with any of them whether they're Somalis fresh off the boat or people whose families have been here since the Civil War feels like talking to an alien trying to approximate what being "nice" is. >t.knuckle-dragging wisconsinite
>worst weather: arizona, nevada
I'd take sweltering dry southwest over miserable humidity any day. 114 degrees with 10% humidity in Phoenix is more tolerable than 93 degrees with 85% humidity in Orlando or Houston or Chicago
I liked Kentucky. Louisville has a great bar scene and a bunch of amazing breweries. I dare you to have a bad time at a bourbon tasting. They built a bike trail called the Parklands that connects 6 new parks in the city. I rode it last time I was in town visiting. Churchill Downs was awesome. They had a good art scene. We went to a rad free museum downtown at a hotel called 21c. The Red River Gorge had some great hiking trails. The pedestrian bridge over the river is awesome. I wish more cities would do stuff like that. There's a lot of great food too, surprisingly. If they could ever fix the black crime problem downtown, Louisville would be a great city.
I feel like every state is the worst state.
I can't think of a single place here id want to live.
I feel like the "best" places are he ones where ou can be left alone forever and LARP that you don't live in a miserable shithole
Is there single decent city to live in in this entire country
Not interested in /misc/ stuff or any reasoning like that just a place that isn't a shithole and isn't so god damn car dependent
>Salt Lake City >San Diego >Boise >Portland (Maine)
All about average in terms of walkability (so not great but OK if you live right downtown) and not riddled with crime, homelessness, general filth etc.
I'm always shocked at how many homeless drug addicts I see in San Diego. It's so much nicer in Orange County in San Clemente, Newport, Dana Point, Corona Del Mar. But even Huntington Beach has a lot of that shit. They had a problem during covid in Laguna Beach after the city opened a homeless shelter, but they cracked down and it's gotten much better.
MBTA sucks but Boston is walkable and only a shithole on the surface. It's cyclable too although morons still end up dead. There's a lot of students and young people in their 20s and 30s living there as well as people with money.
Living in Boston is like living in NYC except with all the shitty parts amplified. >MBTA is worse than MTA by far >Traffic is worse by far >Rent is worse or just as bad >People are meaner >Climate is worse >Nightlife and Restaurants are worse
>get off the plane at Logan >half the airport staff is arab or indian and barely speaks english, or black >wow that was weird, maybe they just hire a lot of minorities >the bus downtown is full of arabs >chinatown is full of koreans and chinese >STILL seeing arabs everywhere >hostel is full of spaniards >go to south station to catch an amtrak >blacks and arabs everywhere
what the hell happened to "the white utopia of new england?"
you don't need a car in philadelphia, I save like $6k a year by living in the city and walking / biking everywhere, it's one of the few non car dependent cities in America that's affordable, and if you live in the nice parts its good (eg rittenhouse / graduate hospital / fairmount / old city / not shitty K&A or strawberry mansino)
I've spent a decent amount of time all over Nevada. The only place I would consider living is in the Carson City to Stateline (South Lake Tahoe) area. Nevada is the reason I will always vote against any kind of gambling expansion in my state. When you legalize casinos, you sell your soul and invite the worst kinds of people.
I actually don’t mind at all that this state filters people because it’s the best state in the country and it would be great if they didn’t move here en masse to ruin it.
>WA
Only thing that makes this state interesting are the places not touched by people. It's either woodlands or premanufactured suburban dystopia and hard drugs in Seattle. The culture is fricking awful and you get the expensive side of shit because of tech bros/jeets shitting everything up
>Illinois
Rural as frick outside of Chicago. North Chicago is almost nice. Financial district dominates downtown so after 5pm it's practically dead. Chicago has some of the most feral Black folk I've ever seen. If you're driving and you start seeing numbers instead of street names you fricked up. This city is schizophrenia manifest: Palatable neighborhoods pockmarked with stripmalls interspaced with some of the harshest fricking ghettos in the country.
New York. Specifically NYC. I guess cities really are unnatural. They are often depicted as being FAR COOLER in media. Who could've guessed. They have their perks, but rural living probably edges out the cities every time. Why do I mention living? Because traveling to cities is the same shit. Just like traveling anywhere...honestly. Except for like natural parks and stuff. I feel like once I've seen a town OR city, I've essentially seen them all. I haven't been to Tokyo, but it's like frick do I even want to? I'd have to learn an entire language just to get around.
But yeah, NYC sucks. Rude people, average food, extremely expensive. One real park in the middle of like 300 miles of concrete? And the subway is old as frick. And the city has like 10 million people can you imagine living in that. I'll stick to my town of 1,000 people.
American towns are pretty cookiecutter since they all developed roughly the same time and have similar histories. >Blandevillia, California was settled by gold miners in 1850's >mines went bust, destitute workers fled back east >those who remained started ranches and built railroads >by 1900 oil was found, money everywhere >mass migration during depression >hippies in 60's >entertainment/tech in 80's >shithole by 90's
meanwhile every midwestern town is >small agriculture town on river >steamboat and civil war built up the town as rural settlers fled bushwackers/sherman >everyone works wageslave factory jobs for israelite yorkers >once the busiest railroad hub for almost 5 years until town 100 miles west became bigger >mafia existed in 20's but wasn't all that interesting >number one supplier of ration satchels nationwide in WWII >peaked in 50's >ghetto by 80's >parts of city are currently liveable while most is a Black shithole
East coast is the only halfway interesting part of the nation, and even then it's pretty much >some founding father said a quote in this house >"historic" downtown that's a dozen or so pre-US buildings and the rest less than 200 y/o >"General Lee once slept in a cabin that used to stand under this freeway interchange" >KKK in early 1900's >segregation in 50's >shithole by 80's >50%+ black today
>NYC sucks. Rude people, average food, extremely expensive.
agreed. i almost use it as a litmus test for traveling. if anyone says they travel around a lot but starts raving about how great NYC is, then they're braindead moronic
My vote is Indiana, but I do agree that WV is close to the worst.
While the northeast part of the state isnt terrible, places like Huntington, Barboursville, and Charleston are trashy hillbilly hellholes.
There are some almost redeeming smaller cities and towns that are actually pretty decent though.
Morgantown, Harpers Ferry, Sutton, and Point Pleasant come to mind.
But yeah the majority of the surrounding mountains and rural areas are full of some of the trashiest, worst people you could ever imagine.
Louisiana sucks donkey balls. It's dirty, crime-ridden, everything is falling apart, the jobs suck if you aspire beyond service industry, and to add insult to injury, it's not even that cheap to live in. Mississippi has all those problems, but at least it's cheap.
North Dakota. Nothing to do out there except work in a boring and bland environment with people who want nothing to do with one another unless they were raised on the same 500 acre land they own
Kentucky was a close second. But it's nearby states with interesting cities within stomachable driveable distances is more appealing. Bunch of homogenous looking fricks in this state though. The cousin frickin stereotypes and farmers running gas stations memes are true.
Delaware offers nothing unique to me and feels exclusive and uppity for no reason other than having access to the same bland looking coastline that the other nearby states have better versions of
Alabama would be the worst for me and it wasn't really that bad. Most of it is trashy except a few nice towns, wilderness and Huntsville in the northern part. Driving through cities like birmingham or montgomery I felt really unsafe.
PA is a shithole. Anyone whose lived in another state for an extended period of time and has an IQ above 70 realizes it. You can't even drink the tap water their.
>You can't even drink the tap water their.
I've drunk a lifetime's worth of Pennsylvania tap water and I know which "there" homophone to use for a location.
It's a shithole, but the water is just fine.
It's gotta be New Mexico
Dusty run down shithole towns. 2nd most crime ridden state in the country. I get breaking bad vibes in every little town you'd pass through on the interstate, like methed up people. I will admit Santa Fe is cool and the landscape is very pretty but besides that, I would avoid.
Not a state but Puerto Rico has been the only trip I have taken that felt like a straight up waste of time.
Actual states? Probably Montana
because the ski resort I went to (whitefish) was a major let down. It looks lovely otherwise.
i had the pleasure of going to cleveland ohio to see a concert. everyone there was either morbidly obese or a methhead. the city blew. the only redeeming factor was the metroparks, which were cool to walk through when there wasnt a junkie shooting up or a hooker giving a blowjob.
I don’t see why people hate Pennsylvania so much. Sure, the Eastern counties are filled with black people and Dominicans from New York but that’s really surged just over the last decade, and it’s only in those counties. Outside of those counties, Pennsylvania is the most quintessentially American state in the country. >Oh no! It doesn’t have tech jobs! Yeah, that’s a good thing.
Most of these states you guys love are nothing but suburban sprawls built up after the war. Meanwhile, Pennsylvania has more history in one corner than all of the other states combined. And there’s only 4 or 5 states more important influential anyway.
Oklahoma
It is literally hell on earth >Giant bugs >Terrible drivers >Corrupt cops/legal system that charged me a "deferred adjudication fee" to basically look the other way on a ticket >Hoya hoyas who drink mouthwash at travel stations >Littered campgrounds
I'm sure there are nice parts, but the shitty parts are REALLY shitty
What's wrong with PA? Let me guess. You traveled to shitty Philly only.
every city in the state is a run down, gray, economically depressed, dirty, decaying crime ridden urine smelling hellhole
Appalachian trail is neat but that's literally it and it's not unquie to the state.
Pittsburgh isn't that bad at all. What are you on about?
shithole.
PA resident here. Pittsburgh is a shithole second only to Philly.
No, they didn't. I lived in a small town in PA that was flooded with THOUSANDS OF OUT OF STATE cars come election day.
Pittsburgh is a true shithole. Horrible weather, infrastructure that is decaying, women are hideous, and locals are one of the most insular group of people in the USA. There is rampant alcoholism and drug use problem with Yinzers. I hope you enjoy cloudy weather while doing meth talking about dem Stillers.
John Fetterman is the embodiment of Pennsylvanian working class man. People say Pennsylvania is so great, but it's demographics is basically John Fetterman but replace his wife with a white landwhale. He also hid his condition very well and ran against carpetbagger Dr. Oz. GOPtards can't understand that the average white man in PA will never vote for a Mehmet even with a R next to his name.
>People say Pennsylvania is so great, but it's demographics is basically John Fetterman
So everyone is an incoherent, moronic, drooling baboon in shit stained sweatpants? Figures.
>GOPtards can't understand that the average white man in PA will never vote for a Mehmet even with a R next to his name.
I guess even a baboon is better than the turkroach.
When a state can let something like Kensington exist, you know it's fricked. I don't know how people live in Philly with all the trash everywhere, even in so-called nice areas. What is it with the people in PA that take pride in having so little self respect? It's like they purposely make themselves look low class. They are like that frick up you knew in high school you see 20 years later and they are still there same - what used to be kind of funny is now just pathetic. There isn't a single populated place in PA that you would consider "nice" compared to other east coast cities like Boston, NY, or even DC. It's all so shitty and outright depressing.
People in Pennsylvania are weirdly insular and cliquish. Pennsylvania is a state that prides itself on doing the bare minimum culturally and it really shows.
The shorts and hoodie shit is super true. Most women there have a fetish for loser white guys. Its easier to get laid as a fat guy with a beard than being a gymrat. I know this from personal experience after I let myself go. Pennsylvania is so fricking weird and trashy
Nice
again, another moron who makes sweeping generalizations regarding PA based on Philly.
>DOOD THINK ABOUT DAH CULTURE
>DAH WHITE GUYS!!!
moron roachskin seething.
correct. coincidently have the lowest crime rates too. weird huh?
I'm white, so nice try. Notice how Pennsylvanians get so vulgarly racist? Southerners are at least smart enough to keep the vulgarity behind closed doors unlike trash PA man
you brought race into it first dipshit. your mental gymnastics are outstanding.
It's the Virginia guy posting all o the vulgar hateful nonsense. He grew up in one of the worst cities in the US. Imagine a whole state full of people like him.
Are you still mad that I can read a map?
You are so crass. It really reflects poorly on your environment...
There is no more miserable place on earth than Pennsylvania. There is a saying on the east coast that that anyone wearing a Steelers or Eagles Jersey is either mentally handicapped, a homeless junky, or a felon out on parole. A lot of times, it's all three at the same time.
>There is a saying on the east coast that that anyone wearing a Steelers or Eagles Jersey is either mentally handicapped, a homeless junky, or a felon out on parole.
No there isn’t moron
Bullshit. They're called Dignity Eagles.
Meds
Can confirm. I've heard that expression
>No there isn’t moron
Yes it is. I live here.
Don't forget the terrible roads
Pittsburgh has one of the worst dowtowns in the country
>Don't forget the terrible roads
PA legit has the worst roads in the nation and I don't think anywhere else is close. Streets, highways, expressways, doesn't matter, they're all in horrendous condition. Even the fricking toll roads are atrocious which is insulting in its own right
South Carolina has bad roads
Yeah they do. Nothing like PA though
You haven't been to the West Coast. California and Washington State are poster-children for America's broken infrastructure.
California has 3 or 4 bad cities in a state that's almost twice the size of Italy. If they were a country, they'd have the 5th largest economy in the world. They infrastructure there isn't broken at all. The economy is booming and they create a massive amount of revenue. Most of their problems stem from the liberal attitude towards immigration, homelessness, drugs and crime. They take in too many people and hemorrhage money caring for them. They let people sleep on the streets and openly use drugs. LA, Oakland, Fresno, Sacramento and San Francisco could solve 90 percent of their problems in a week by closing the border to Mexico and bussing all of the homeless people to some prefab housing out in Barstow.
I spent the first 25 years of my life in Cali and it is the most unlivable soulless shithole in the US, possibly the world. There's a reason why literal millions are fleeing it in droves.
-Zero public transport, everything that can be called a "street" is permanently jam-packed with 8 lanes of traffic. Takes 2 hours to get anywhere and the air quality is so bad it's visible. Visible air.
-Zero jobs to be found anywhere, whether you're an unskilled immigrant or an educated native. You need a master's degree and 12 years experience to work at mcdonalds. The job market is so oversaturated that employers can be as picky as they like. I once stood in an hour long line for interviews to be a Starbucks barista.
-Everything is expensive and the state is completely unaffordable unless you're a celebrity, crypto neet or a silicon valley zoomer. "Stop being poo-" b***h I'm a scientist and I can't even afford a house.
-Home to the most racist, self-flagellating white people in the world. You could remove every black person in the state and the universities would still be overwhelmingly pro-CRT pro-feminism pro-idpol. It's an innate cultural problem and rotten to the core.
-Muh 5 citi- Lake Elsinore is/was the meth capital of the US. Gas costs $5/gal up the I5 in the central valley. People have shitugly water-guzzling lawns everywhere from Sacramento to Palm Springs and then complain that farming is expensive.
Cali is a state that simply does not work for 99% of regular people. It is a place for elites to abuse the common man.
If you're applying to work as a barista in California and taking public transport, you were never going to make it there. Public transport is for homeless people, felons out on parole and new illegal immigrants. Everyone else can afford a car. The paradigm you're living under where you assume that all successful people must be abusing the lower class is ridiculous. Your failure is your own problem. You probably smoked too much weed in high school, or maybe your mom did drugs while she was pregnant with you. More than likely, it's just bad genetics holding you back. Luckily for you, there are places like Wichita Kansas where people who are a little slower and little uglier can move to and have a great life.
Way to out yourself as larping and never having been to cali. People having cars *is the problem*. You can own 4 lambos and all 4 of them will sit in the same shitass traffic as everyone else going 2 mph. The state is overpopulated (by people who can afford cars) and devoid of infrastructure. These are "everyone" problems.
That sounds terrible, but the reality is that I was in shorts and t-shirt this afternoon playing catch with my dog in a giant empty green field with the birds chirping while everyone else in the country is freezing their asses off. You pay extra to live here for a reason bro.
>-Zero public transport, everything that can be called a "street" is permanently jam-packed with 8 lanes of traffic. Takes 2 hours to get anywhere and the air quality is so bad it's visible. Visible air.
oh so you only lived in Los angeles. Moron
Well written, I’ve never been to California as an adult but i laughed hard reading this
That's LA. If you ever drive between LA and San Francisco, you'd see nothing but farmland and few small towns. The entire northern part of the state is just empty wilderness. California is larger than Italy. There's no traffic out in the middle of a forest. If you're an unmarried 29 year old barista making minimum wage, you probably want to think about living somewhere besides southern California. If you're a nurse, or a programmer, an attorney, a dermatologist, a dentist or possess a useful degree, southern California is a great place to live. A Nurse Practitioner in Orange County can make $200K+. You'd make half that in Florida or Kentucky. Even when you factor in the extra cost of living, you come out way ahead in California.
I've made a map of the worst states based of mentions ITT. California technically didn't have anyone say it was the worst but might as well be a declaration. Also I added in all states where multiple are mentioned (including the worst to live/people/infrastructure etc.). All in green had no mention and are thus good states (?)
>ohio
>1
Lol.
Lmao.
Updated map. Yes Ohio didn't get many referrals but now it's picked up a bit (I also included (you) as a shout for Ohio).
Mountainbros are ou happy so far? Same for the Carolinas and New Englanders.
And yes the colours are probably different it's been a bit.
Thanks for the update. VT/ME/NH are too obscure for most people to criticize
CORRECTION: Missouri should be at 1. My apologies.
How is Louisiana this high? You can feel how shitty the state is the moment you switch from Texas roads to Louisiana roads, and it's actually that cheap between flood insurance, car insurance, and a surprising amount of taxes relative to the below-par wages.
>how is
Tiny, shit sample size. This isn't a survey population its a banter board
I think you mean how is it this low? It's based on mentions I can't determine it but I'll take you word into account next time.
It is hard for me to vote due to my limited exposure- I honestly haven't explored much of the country. All I know is OK was the most un-enjoyable place to drive through and there were a significant amount of weed stores there. There was a lot of cows and farmland which was cool, but as soon as you hit a town it was like 30% weed and speed traps. Therefore, OK gets my vote.
It is interesting to compare this to population density.
Does MO have a lot going for it? I've only traveled around south MO on the highways. Lots of forests and smaller towns besides St. Louis (which I've visited and didn't care for at all). Maybe I'm missing out not seeing the north side.
I visited LA last year as a tourist and was a pleasant experience (although an expensive one)
Living over there seems like a struggle for the locals though, traffic is not as bad as it could be you know, I've been to countries where the highways are composed of two lanes each way and there are no alternative routes lmao
>master's degree and 12 years experience to work at mcdonalds. The job market is so oversaturated that employers can be as picky as they like. I once stood in an hour long line for interviews to be a Starbucks barista.
Its bad but it ain't that bad you demoralizing wienerhead. You can get a cashier/bagger job without even a high school diploma.
>elites
kek
Fat worm/10, Pretty good score.
>They take in too many people and hemorrhage money caring for them.
Based on the lack of results compared to the amount of money spent, it seems like the vast majority of it must be going to corrupt contractors and officials and not actually helping people.
The West Coast is indeed incompetently run, but the roads in Pennsylvania are uniquely terrible for some inane reason
You don't like Amish people?
Honestly, no, I don't. They're nice but very standoffish which is probably to be expected. I do not understand the touristic appeal of amish country at all.
>omg people on a farm and they're using horses!
Like really? This is impressive? It's not even that interesting that they live in 1880, a little quaint maybe.
I went to an amish run restaurant once in amish country and it was very basic food, mashed potatoes and chicken with gravy stuff which was ok but like I don't think I'd ever go out of the way again to see the amish. Even my grandparents that took us there weren't that impressed. The amish are your state's biggest selling point? Really?
Sums the place up really.
They're inbred trailer trash. Don't look into the puppy mills and housefires.
PA is not even close to the worst. More like one of the best.
The state is packed with enjoyable history, culture, natural surroundings, regional industries, based amish, diners, drive-in movie theaters, amusement parks everywhere, best antique malls and flea markets in the country.. the list goes on..
>Best places
Lititz
Phoenixville
Jim Thorpe
Ephrata
Gettysburg
Lancaster
Mars
New Hope
Milford
Doylestown
Kennett Square
Hershey
>Milford
I refuse to believe there's anything there. It's the middle of goddamn nowhere.
>Jim Thorpe
>a train line
>a dead athlete from Oklahoma
>Gettysburg
A war happened here, once. It's about as notable as Valley Forge
>Mars
Pittsburgh, that's just fricking Pittsburgh
>Lancaster
>New Hope
>Doylestown
>Kennett Square
>Phoenixville
>Lititz
>Frick it, let's add Reading too
That's just the Philadelphia orbital, just say greater Philadelphia
>Hershey
They got chocolate, it's alright
that's as far as I got
Good frick em
Explain how you people chose this orangutan. Says everything I need to know about PA.
libshits from philly and pittsburgh picked him. everywhere else is conservative. also didn't he just advocate for better border control? i saw people sperging about something like that recently.
Maryland, and mostly for that middle part between DC and Baltimore. The eastern shore and that western part are nice. It should be really compact and easy to get around, but it embodies all the worst aspects of American urban design. It's filled with every freaky foreigner and minority from places you've never heard of and closer to the cities are filled with Black folk who are surly and nasty at best and dangerous at worst.
Oz was a terrible candidate. Pennsylvania voters will vote Republican (they did in 2016), but not when the only choice is some establishment neocon or an unknown.
You know why the part between DC and Baltimore is so freaky right? Nothing but glowies live there. Like whole CIA/FBI neighborhoods, the whole atmosphere is really disturbing
Yikes
georgetown is freaky in this way too except you throw some rich college kids into the mix with the glowies
Got any glowie encounter stories?
I grew up in PA, thankfully I have since escaped the US to greener pastures. PA is basically the Russian doomer aesthetic but with none of the hot Russian women, McMansions instead of commieblocs, more blacks and more junkies. The hoeflation there is extreme, any even moderately frickable girl has the worst personality you could imagine.
>leaving the US for Russia
nah
>but with none of the hot Russian women,
You can actually see the hot Russian women in the NE Philly/Bucks county area, but guess what? THEY'RE ALL MARRIED.
> Hey Reddit Swede here can confirm I’m a moronic homosexual
Lol. I'm posting from Philadelphia right now at my hotel. I've been nothing but b***hing how dirty this place is. Im from the Bay area so blacks aren't anything out of the ordinary but the blacks here are another breed and they are fking everywhere. San Francisco is dirty but this place is just something else. They also give me and my wife weird looks because we look straight Mexican. I see almost no Mexicans, just blacks and whites everywhere. The old colonial w/e era shit gives me the creeps too. Can't wait to get out of this hell hole tomorrow.
It's dumb to judge a state by it's big shitties, but Philly, Pittsburgh, Allentown and Scranton are really not that bad comparatively to the big cities of other east coast states. I think they have more polarizing neighborhoods than your average cities but thats sort of the appeal of them in a way. Like one can go to South Street, Manayunk or Fishtown or even the touristy historic district and get a city that rivals any others on the east coast. Or you can go to Kensington or West Philly but why the FRICK would you go to those places when you've been warned by everyone and everything to not go there. It's not like Chicago where you could get carjacked in Naperville or Joliet let alone any of the touristy places there.
Philly and Pittsburgh have way more safe and quality of life places than any midwest or west coast city hands down.
Allentown and Scranton are sizeable cities that don't feel that big and have a decent amount of things to do in their surrounding areas.
And the suburbs and smaller towns in eastern PA are some of the best places to live in the country.
PA hate is dumb. It's a state with a lot going for it across the board. People need to stop focusing on the fact that the corrupt politicians were nice enough to put all the junkies and trash in their own little enclaves throughout the state.
The fact that these places exist is a blessing, and the countless good places we got as a result are criminally under appreciated.
PIDF shilling hard over here
>Philly and Pittsburgh have way more safe and quality of life places than any midwest or west coast city hands down.
Might be the most moronic thing I've read all week
>Cleveland
>Detroit
>Chicago
>San Francisco
>LA
are you really trying to tell me anywhere in any of these cities are close at all to be being as safe or liveable as Philly's best neighborhoods and suburbs?
>Nothing in Milford
Grey Towers, Dingman's Ferry and Bushkill Falls are some of the most beautiful spots on the east coast.
>Jim Thorpe nonsense
Amazing historical town with cool old buildings and mansions
>Gettysburg sucks
The actual town is filled with great restaurants and museums, and the battlefield is one of the most preserved historical parks in the country
>List of towns that are commonly listed as some of the best places to live in the US
These places are almost all 50-100+ miles away from Philly.
>Hershey
Quaint downtown with great dining and town history built on American manufacturing and one of the best amusement parks on the east coast
Toss up between Nebraska and Oklahoma. Nebraska is full of nice but fat cornfeeders and they have no actual downtown in places like Omaha. Lincoln is nice but micro as frick. Oklahoma has a somewhat true downtown in Tulsa, they've even got good looking thin girls there, but holy shit they are all legitimately mentally ill. After a single visit to Oklahoma you completely understand why Tiger King is from there. For some reason Oklahoma either attracts or turns people completely insane, and I was hanging out with some of the richest people in the city at the time.
>>they are all legitimately mentally ill
You can say that about every modern western female and it has nothing to do with Oklahoma, you're just pulling at straws to astroturf for shitty philly and Pennsylvania
In my state we say that Nebraska is the state that God forgot to make.
Omaha zoo is GOATed
I've only been to 9 states, and I'm gonna have to say Idaho. I don't hate it, it's just mathematics.
>only visited 9 states
>had more fun in the other 8
>simple as
My answer would definitely change if I visit more states and have a bad time, or just less fun.
Northern Idaho is S-tier outdoors. One of the most gorgeous areas of America
We're in agreement, the poconos somehow has more buttholes than long island and new jersey combined.
Definitely not PA. My camper van died in the middle of nowhere in rural PA...fuel pump finally seized up. No cell service. Locals were helpful and honest without being overly friendly or nosy, got me back on the road promptly. Quality backwoods people in the heart of the state. Also, lots of beautiful state forests.
what do you consider "rural" PA?
NTA but what kind of homosexual question is that? Most of PA is rural.
naw there are shithole little cities littered all over the state.
Been to 30-something states now, I’d put Arizona near the top. Hellish weather in the summer and it’s filled with geriatrics and wild-eyed beaners of unknown provenance. Phoenix fricking sucks, so does Tucson. Heard flagstaff was ok but there’s no way it makes up for the rest of the state. Northern Arizona is the most desolate place I’ve ever driven through, looks like Fallout. I drove past a place advertising 50 acres for $75k right across from some huge factory shitting out black smoke into the sky.
> it’s filled with geriatrics and wild-eyed beaners of unknown provenance
started grinning around geriatrics and lold at provenance
The desert is no fricking joke. The government tested over a hundred atomic bombs in Arizona and Nevada and New Mexico, if you go far enough out there you WILL find super mutants, aliens, bunkers, cartels, heavily guarded military installations with unmarked personnel, inner earth entrances, it's LITERALLY Fallout. Do NOT take acid out in Death Valley. I'll say the only time I had a culture shock in the US was when I stopped at a busy Walmart passing through Phoenix at midnight and every other person there was Native American. It really spooked me. The Grand Canyon is cool just don't go looking for the mummies or you'll have black hawks watching you
Now read Blood Meridian
you were spooked by seeing Native Americans.... in America....? It is their homeland. Whats next, seeing French people in France will scare you?
>Whats next, seeing French people in France will scare you?
Don't jinx it
Why not trip in Death Valley?
New Mexico or Nebraska. Just true shitholes except Nebraska is a shithole that serves Runza's
I have lived in:
>Texas
>New Mexico
>Arizona
>Pennsylvania
Texas was easily the worst. Full of beaners who are extremely racist and barely speak english. Love to blast their Hispanic music all day long and Hispanic cops refuse to do anything about it. Bigger cities are just a mix of nigs and spics.
florida or texas
lancaster county is better than 90% of america
Lancaster city checking in
Arkansas.
Not only is it fricking empty. I do not remember seeing a single tourism brochure at any rest stop. I do not remember seeing any attractions signs.
The interstate between Missouri and Texas was LITERALLY lined the ENTIRE WAY with construction barrels. The road care was so shitty. Absolute hellhole of a state.
I’m sure the Ozarks are nice but the rest of the state is a barren hellhole.
You must have taken 55 from STL down to 40/30 through Little Rock to Texas? 40 east of Little Rock is one of the most potholed stretches of interstate in the country, just all heavy truck traffic all the time and they can't keep up with undoing the road damage from that. But Arkansas has a ton of outdoors tourist shit, pretty much everywhere except for that stretch of 55. Skill issue if you crossed the whole state and didn't see any
Can confirm the Ozarks are probably the nicest part of the state. Places like Bella Vista and Little Flock are pretty fricking nice and it's relatively cheap. Northwest Arkansas is absolutely, creepily obsessed with Walmart since they literally own the state, but otherwise the vibe is pretty relaxed and easygoing if somewhat boring. I went in the winter though and so the landscape was kinda barren and stark, particularly in Bentonville which is flat af and without much to bring to the table aside from being close to the relatively more interesting city of Fayetteville and the sexy hills/rivers at the foot of the Ozarks. But frick me is it impossible to get around without a car. I wouldn't even want to try.
New Mexico, the whole state is a dusty mexican trailer park. US needs to just give that state back to Mexico.
go back to the city chud
I think nevada is worse then Arizona
, both have the same problems though.
I agree with op, scooby doo ghost town of a state, and the bellweather of the future fall of America.
He's right new Mexican is shit compared to Arizona
I see why the US government dropped atomic bombs on this state, sadly I think they didn't drop enough. The whole state should be glassed.
Santa Fe is probably the coolest and most unique city in America.
It's alright. It feels like a small town in Mexico which is cool I guess, because its in the US, but that's not a lot to write home about. And its just a giant marketplace of different stores selling ristras and ugly turquoise israeliteelery like who buys that shit anyway?
Santa Fe was great until about 20 years ago when Texans started vacationing there en masse. It’s a tourist trap now with cool architecture.
I’ve been to Santa Fe twice and both times I met a ton of tourists from Austin
Everyone says NM sucks. I love NM. Top tier SighSee activities, unique geology and national parks, low cost of living, amazing food, generally friendly people. It’s just poor.
New Mexico is underrated as frick. The scenery near Taos and a perfectly fine city in Albuquerque or Sante Fe (which is only 1 hour from El Paso).
I always can't wait to leave this place.
Hot, flat, bleak and so fricking spread out it takes forever to do anything, which requires lots of driving. Mexican Food is fricking awful there, disgusting concoctions of canned cheese and other Amerislop that's completely unknown in Mexico, despite having the largest border with that country.
Texans gush about the place and rattle off reasons its so great like "the sweet tea here contains extra sugar, compared to other states" and they're also invariably performatively religious and start conversations with "what church do you to go?"
Oh, and a ton of Black folk too!
It's all the worst true stereotypes about the U.S. in one place.
Texas has 2 redeeming qualities. Beef and the Mexicans there are actually pretty based unlike the other border states.
It already feels flipped
Yuck
>mexicans there are actually pretty based
not a fricking chance moron. they are all fat as fatass. blare their shitty music constantly, cant speak english at all, and have the iq of children.
>they are all fat as fatass
They're no less fat than the average American. Almost every one I've seen is either fat, a twig, or ripped for one reason or another. Hardly anyone in-between.
>cant speak english at all
>cant
Bold words from an ESL.
>butthurt wetback still dripping chorizo juice from his 400lb moms dinner
At least his mom still makes dinner instead of wasting her child bearing years away working for mr goldstein
Boy, am I tired of mexicans online and off.
Yes, but they're actually friendly compared to AZ or NM.
>Mexicans there are actually pretty based unlike the other border states.
That was my take home from living in Texas for a year. I would take 10 Texan Mexicans every day over one Chicago black
Don't worry both are replacing you limp dick
Getting angry about the great replacement is so 2019
I think its just that alabama/louisiana etc have been useless backwaters for forever and everyone knows it.
Places like PA turning into literal third world dogshit is new.
>Never left a US state in entire life
Idk maybe this board isnt going to be your thing. Youre sure you arent lost?
Nah, I know the type hes describing and hes right.
left a US state in entire life
>Idk maybe this board isnt going to be your thing. Youre sure you arent lost?
I'm not American and I don't live in the US
I've done 40/50. The states that really stood out as terrible to me are Mississippi, Alabama, Iowa, Kansas and Illinois (with the lone exception of Chicago which is rad).
For anyone saying Arizona, you haven't traveled enough in the state. I've traveled quite a bit in Arizona and done some epic shit, ie: The Grand Canyon, Sedona, Fossil Creek Falls, Havasu Falls, Devil's Bridge, Lake Havasu, the Salt River, Coconino National Forest, etc. But you couldn't pay me to go there in the summer. Frick that shit.
Why is Alabama bad?
Poverty, melanin, rednecks, miserably hot and humid weather. Mobile has great beaches though.
Kansas ain't even that bad though, just boring
Kansas city is low key fun too, tho most people count it as missouri
Brit here who has hitchhiked through 16 states. Easily the worst state is Texas. It's fricking huge and there is nothing there. The cities are all awful and it is the only state I've hitchhiked in where I was propositioned for sex with a man and it happened twice.
I would also like add that anyone who judges as US state on it's cities is ridiculous because most American cities now are awful, any local culture has been so obviously sucked out of all the
cities and replaced by chain restaurants and screaming homeless men.
America at its best is small towns and wide open countryside which is why Utah is the best state.
>It's fricking huge
>there is nothing there
I recommend you hitchhike alaska next
>propositioned for sex with a man and it happened twice
always suspected gays posted here, now I know
You just posted it
I guess Maryland. It’s all kinda bad honestly.
Maryland has 3,000 miles of coastline. The best beach camping I've ever done that wasn't in Hawaii was on Assateague Island Maryland. The eastern shore produces some of the best vegetables I've ever eaten in the world. Maryland blue Crabs are god tier. Ocean City Maryland is fricking wild. I don't know that there's a better party beach in America. The OC boardwalk is one of the best in the US. They're also close to a lot of things, beaches, Philly, NYC, Washington DC, Annapolis, Ocean City, Shenandoah National Park, etc. Even Baltimore is pretty fun. Would I live in Maryland? Probably not. But is it worse than Kansas, Alabama, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, Arkansas, Minnesota, or Illinois? Definitely not.
So it's Virginia but worse
Why would anyone go to Virginia? I've literally never heard anyone mention it. Is there anything there?
Virginia beach is lit
It's like myrtle Beach without the Black folk
Virginia Beach looks ghetto as shit. I'll pass on that one. lol
Brother, I am a sheltered white boy but Myrtle Beach South Carolina is the most ghetto place I have seen in my entire life. Virginia Beach is like heaven compared.
i've lived in virginia my whole life and yes there is so much here. i would recommend avoiding most of the eastern parts as they are overflooded with Black folk and ghettos, richmond too, and just stick to the north and west/southwest. north if you like history, west if you like nature. the appalachian mountains are the most beautiful in the world (in my biased opinion) lots of great parks, and there are tons of museums and civil war battlefields all over the place
Virginia with more Black folk that infest the state like a cancer. With the added bonus of 40% of the state also being mystery meat.
Maryland by far is the worst state and should be nuked, and it’s people are a cancer that spread to the rest of the north east and mid Atlantic
Your autism is showing.
Ignore this moron
>Assateague Island Maryland.
is that were the horses are? that's probably puts it abot 15 states
Yea, the horses just wander around aimlessly eating shrubs.
Virginia has some beautiful places to visit in the countryside but the food is not nearly as good as in Maryland. I got hooked on Maryland seafood. The roadside BBQ's and produce stands on the eastern shore in Maryland spoiled me for life. Baltimore was a really good bar and food destination too. The Federal Hill and Fells Point areas both had a great bar scene that was nearly all white middle class and felt safe. I'd go back to Baltimore or Annapolis and do a bar crawl any time.
The main problem I have with Virginia is that the 2 large beach cities are overcrowded, extremely black, and have horrible crime problems. I would never go back to Virginia Beach. It's fricking rough. I also hated Richmond with a passion. The girls were fat as shit and covered in bad tattoos.. The bars downtown in Richmond were in a bad area. And there were a lot of sketchy nogs everywhere. Three places I do really like in Virginia were Old Town Alexandria, Shenandoah National Park and Tangier Island. But I'll take those Maryland beaches and seafood over anything in Virginia.
>Maryland seafood
Literally no different from Virginia
>Hampton Roads and Richmond
Sure they suck, but I'm from fricking Newport News of all places and Baltimore and Ocean City are too shitty skeezy even for my low standards.
If I had the choice between living in Newport News or having a testicle removed, I would let them cut open my sack without a second thought. The fact that you grew up in arguably one of the top 5 worst small cities in the US, your opinion on the matter of is obviously going to be skewed. The crazy part is that Newport News is getting worse. I wouldn't be worried about what's overpriced", I'd get my ass out of Virginia and never look back. Your parents were morons for not moving to the eastern shore of Maryland and not moving to a nice little town like Crisfield. Sounds like the apple didn't fall far from the tree.
Maryland sucks. All of the upsides you mentioned, with the exception of fricking Baltimore, which is even more of a total shithole than Newport News, can be found in Virginia
I live in Baltimore, and while I appreciate your effort, and I agree Maryland is not the worst state, it’s certainly nowhere near the best. But for me it’s home, and I love it.
Loved the US anons - me and two buddies from Australia picked a Jeep up in LA and drove west to east ending up in Miami. In every state we had nothing but great experiences. Worst state was United Airlines, crewed by 70 year old gay pensioners and other ancient trash. United - how come you are still in business?
That's not a state but United used to be the best airline and is now the worst. That's what getting run by a hedge fund CEO with no airline experience does.
Hands down Indiana. Filled with racist fat boomers, turbo methromancers, and lividly insane christians. The first thing I saw was a giant sign that said "there is proof of God" and a McDonald's billboard and I knew exactly what I was in for. Indiana needs to be purified down to the last fat boomer.
you sound like a turbo libshit who stomps their feet when people dont 100% agree with your mental illness.
ignoring the gay post, is there anything remotely redeeming about indiana? Why go there?
A lot of Anons are right in that there is no "real" reason to visit Indiana, nothing unique about it that you cannot experience in a different state. Another anon said it's a cozy place to raise kids and I agree - despite the meth use, basically a cleaner version of Ohio (did not get rust-belted as hard as other states/regions). Stay out of Gary and the feral part of Indy and you'd forget that magic Americans exist.
I grew up in Chicago and had friends that went to both IU and Purdue - visiting their campuses on game day was like a bougie version of game day on southern campuses, without the moronic poverty/low-classness of places like Clemson or USC.
I stayed in south bend once. That was enough.
found the plebbitor
Lmao this is elite bait
>NOOOO YOU CANT BE A RED STATE NOOOOOO
Illinois.
No second place. Worst of the worst.
Nogs, Chicongo, crime, ignorance, pollution, corruption, heebs, trannies, urban blight, decimated infrastructure, lawlessness, rural opioid crisis, shit weather, no mountains, no beaches (lake mud gring doesnt count), queers, liberals, and Rinos.
The israelites took a giant shit on Illinois, and the goyim asked for more.
I've traveled to 42 out of the 50 US states (I'm a pilot so I've been about everywhere).
Worst is Maryland.
Overpriced as frick, nothing to do, feral, violent, unintelligible blacks run the cities.
The crab was decent but doesn't make up for it.
Yes, I would pick Kansas/Oklahoma/Nebraska any day over Maryland.
Second worst is probably Illinois.
>Overpriced as frick, nothing to do, feral, violent, unintelligible blacks run the cities.
Why you gotta stick to the rural areas like eastern shore or western MD near the mountains. Once you're away from the Black person cities and suburbs filled with DC glowie commuters, it's not so bad. Still wouldn't recommend it cause like you said, it's overpriced, but it helps
>ex-MD homosexual
Tie between Nebraska and Kansas
It's not because most of those states is flat, that's fine and pretty in its own way. There isn't much to do compared to other places, but that's not why I disliked them either. People were just ugly weird buttholes there.
TN, AL, AR, and MS do have nice people. Those states get shit on too much. Same with Indiana and Ohio, I don't know why they get hated on.
Hey frick you buddy. Not enough trannies for your liking?
I don't really like Iowa. It's like my state (Kansas) but Iowans don't realize it's another boring, midwest ag state like Kansans do and act like it's paradise.
Wait really? I don't know anyone here in Iowa that pretends like we are some paradise, in fact on the contrary, I have heard Iowans denigrate the state for it's lack of nature (which is well deserved).
Visited 18 states + DC. Another 2 states if you count stops.
The absolute worst one to visit was Connecticut. It didn't even seem like that bad of a state in general, but it was not at all interesting.
>Stamford area: commuter hell for NYC workers.
>New Haven: rust beltesque shithole, very dirty, rundown. Only has pizza and Yale.
>Hartford: boring, soulless, and cultureless political center of CT.
>New London - Groton - Mystic: The only interesting part of CT to visit, and one that I liked. The problem is that everything there is done better in RI or MA.
>I-95/I-91: Even if you're not visiting CT and instead visiting one of the better New England states, you have to drive the state the long way and it never seems to end.
I don't travel to places to "check them off" or anything like that. If I don't have a solid reason to go, I won't go. But I was so happy to finally leave CT thinking, "I'll never have to come back here again." Haven't felt that way about another state yet.
i love that CT sucks so much they cant even defend this.
t. NH
londonderry checking in
Driving up through WI was an absolute slog, I’m sure it’s better than driving through the American Breadbowl tho
you're a huge homosexual
i havent gone yet but ill be going to nebraska in a couple months so that.
Mississippi
So Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont?
Checks out.
Cannot help but notice how no one here has mentioned Alabama. Because I am sure absolutely no one has ever willingly gone into Alabama, nor close to it either.
You want a frustratingly hot, 100% humidity, hellish nightmare state with no ocean nearby for 99% of it. The beach parts are all swampland and not really something one goes to.
Majority of the state is rural no go zone with either black neighborhoods or meth addict trailer parks.
2nd largest black population in the nation, 1st is next door Mississippi
The middle belt is routinely destroyed by tornado.
No decent parks at all worth going to that any other state does not have a much much better version of.
Every city is run down and poor, they look like they built their last building somewhere around the 1960s at the latest.
And it has a fricking insane level of petty crime and armed robbery for such a rural, low population state.
Alabama is definitely in the bottom 5. All of the small towns that might be nice have a ton of blacks and a serious crime problem. They rank 5th is assaults and 7th in murders in the US. Add that to the terrible weather, the giant mosquitoes, the lack of any large city worth visiting, the seasonal hurricanes, and the fact that there are no real national parks, I can't think of a compelling reason to visit. The actual beachfront on the the coastline is only 30 miles long. Cross over into Florida and it's much nicer. It's also a bad place to drive through because the cops are notoriously corrupt in Alabama. You could say almost the exact thing about Mississippi and Louisiana. New Orleans might be worth a day or two, but the crime is so fricking outrageously bad in Louisiana that I have no desire to see it. The creole cuisine is amazing, but who the frick wants to deal with the crime bullshit? It's not cheep to stay in the French quarter either. For the same price of a flight and a week in a hotel in New Orleans in March, you could fly to France and do a week in the French Riviera or go to the Alps and see Chamonix, Annecy and Chambery where the crime is literally 100 times lower.
i frick with alabama frick out of here. if you actually research the stats alabama is at least top 15. in reality it's top 10 places in america, america is simply not that great. another good place to live is west virginia constantly getting shit on. it's safe and cheap and right next to all the big cities and directly on the mountains, has culture and architecture, everything you'd want. there's no jobs in the cities either there's no benefit of a city so what's the point. everyone is moving to the empty states and filling them up and soon cali and new york will be the desolate ones
Lived in Alabama for 25 years. Agreed that there’s no reason to visit (except Gulf Shores / Orange Beach) but it can be a nice place to live. Plenty of lakes, coastline, conservative, nice suburbs, decent nature, low cost of living and cheap land.
There is one nice area in Alabama and it's Birmingham. The city managed to bounce back from the manufacturing decline to become a hub for finance and banking with a surprising amount of amenities offered by the downtown core. The surrounding suburbs are rough though, and fits all the negative stereotypes about the state.
The suburbs are great what are you talking about. The city has pockets of niceness but overall it's mostly a corpse with like 40% of the population it used to, and 80% of that population is melanin.
I had a great couple of days visiting Huntsville. I found great hiking trails in the little mountains.
alabama is fricking based pussy
you can buy a house cheap as frick
it has everything to do that you can do in a big city you just have to drive to it. alabama is actually a fun place to live plus it has its own beach and mountains close by. it can get decently cold in alabama even snow sometimes. alabama is just chill the government there is kinda based so is mississippi
Iowa, specifically Council Bluffs.
Counciltucky does not represent that fine State of Iowa.
you belong in Illinois, not Iowa. please leave.
why the frick would I want to be in Illinois. Eastern Iowa > Western Iowa. Dont @ me
Traveling through Nebraska the only thought on my mind was "I cannot believe that people live here" and it made me miss New Hampshire. I'm sure I wasn't given the best representation of the state but it was very dull.
Florida
You're crazy. Florida has 800+ miles of beach. he stretch of beaches from Pensacola Beach to Panama City are some of the best in the US. The seafood is amazing. There are dozens of theme parks. The Florida Keys are amazing. Clearwater is one of the only cities on the whole eastern half of the US that I would live in. How could you possibly rank Florida below Mississippi, Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Alabama, Missouri, or Ohio?
I've noticed a lot of libgays scoff at Florida whenever it gets mentioned these days; I think it's because of the politics starting back with the lax mask policy or the troony shit. It's just as ridiculous when cückservatives scoff at California just because of the politics, when it has some of the most beautiful scenery in the world and world-class cities like San Diego. Living there is a different story, but OP's prompt said what the worst state to *visit* is. If one was to visit Florida, they wouldn't be affected by the politics. Florida is still a unique place to visit and has plenty to do. There's a lot of crazy shit in Miami but also that makes it interesting.
I've been noticing that too, it's thier instinct to protect trannies and covid hustlers at all costs
It's the worst state I've been to because it's the only state I've been to.
There's also a ton of underrated stuff there too regarding the geography and history just beyond the beaches or big cities. You have St. Augustine which is a super gorgeous Spanish Colonial city from the 1500s home to a massive and miraculously well-preserved fort and town center with a ton of gorgeous gilded age buildings as well. You have the Everglades obviously, but the St. John's River valley is filled to the brim with awesome marshes and swamps, not to mention Lake Okeechobee. You can see Cape Canaveral and check out all the old NASA shit from the 60s too. Florida really has a TON of value for any type of tourist which is very impressive for just a single state. The only way you could really be dissatisfied there is either if you're politically obsessed or if you want to do mountain stuff.
>awesome marshes and swamps
Be real though, for most people there's no such thing as an "awesome" swamp. A swamp is shitty by its nature.
Unpopular but I think they're pretty k(ino)ool and get overlooked over other biomes.
>The only way you could really be dissatisfied there is either if you're politically obsessed or if you want to do mountain stuff.
I just cant get into the Florida hype. +Hate sunny weather, +love mountains, +not obsessed with politics. Though I will admit it is a darn good place if you don't already live near a coastline for what it offers.
I’ve been to 45 states. If we’re talking worst to visit, I’m not sure Iowa has any redeeming qualities. If we’re talking worst to live in, Mississippi.
I’m expecting Kansas to take Iowa’s place as worst to visit when I go there this year.
>Indiana
Just don't stop. It's all of the suck of the south without the charm.
Probably Delaware.
I've actually spent a good amount of time in Delaware because a friend of mine used to live there. Wilmington is a shithole, but the Delaware coast is actually great. Bethany Beach is a classic east coast beach town, mostly white, low crime, nice beaches, amazing seafood. It's worth a trip just for the crab cakes. Dewey Beach is nice. Cape Henelopen State park has some great undeveloped beaches. The Dogfish Head Brewery is right there. It's also close to a lot of shit to do like NYC, Washington DC, Ocean City Maryland, Philly. Yea. it's small and boring, and I wouldn't want to be there in the winter, but with all the good beaches, are you really going to say it's worse than Kansas?
>Ocean City
Lel
Ocean City Maryland in the summer is glorious. The boardwalk is an endless buffet of hot girls in bikinis, great food, cheap souvenir shops and an endless beach. You can get some legit seafood. Maryland crabcakes are the real fricking deal. The bars are fricking wild at night in the summer. The hookup culture there is fantastic. It's one of the easiest places to get laid that I've ever been to.
It can be ghetto on the weekends. As long as you find a hotel or condo north of 70th street, it's a nice place. You don't want to be around the poor people at night.
>souvenir shops
Are you serious?
Yeah so you can get little trinkets for your friends and family like a normal person does you stupid no life homosexual.
lol. called it.
The Asians run dozens of little souvenir shops in ocean city. They sell knockoff Gucci bags, weed, $10 ear piercings, airbrush t shirts, cheap beach shit. One thing I really noticed in Europe is that they don't have a lot of those kind of stores. We couldn't find a fricking basketball in Dubrovnik without driving 20 minutes into town. Same in France and in Italy. I love the good old American boardwalk where you can find a pair of sunglasses, a beach towel and a football and spend $10.
Nobody cares about there being cheap souvenir trinkets. It's a complete afterthought and a pleasant surprise at best.
No one without friends or family, I guess. I buy a lot of souvenirs and gifts for people when I travel.
I dunno. Seemed trashy as frick to me. Seemed like one of those degenerate spring break towns.
But I agree about the amazing seafood and there was some random car show that was pretty cool.
But Baltimore and Frederick are way better as far as Maryland goes. The hookup culture in Baltimore was unexpectedly great
OCMD hasn't been nice in 20+ years.
Believe me, I was there for two weeks every summer from when I was two years old to my mid-twenties.
The boardwalk itself would be one of the best in the country, if it weren't ruined by the god-awful people who vacation there.
Horrible blend of lower-middle class boomers, trash from Baltimore and Central PA, normie teens and black predators trying to rape them.
The city has a great history but much of it has been disappearing over the years.
Trimpers Haunted House at the end of the boardwalk is one of the best classic dark rides that still exist.
Fishing and seafood is some of the best on the east coast outside of new england.
However all of that including beaches are better just outside of OCMD at Assateague Island.
So if youre looking for a good beach vacation just skip OCMD and go to Assateague instead. If you want to check out the boardwalk one night, you can park at the inlet parking lot and all the best stuff on the boardwalk and the pier are right there.
Best area to stay is North OC and Fenwick Island. You can get an oceanfront room for a very decent price in comparison to other east coast beach resort towns. Just avoid staying near the boardwalk at all costs, including the blocks off the oceanfront down to the inlet.
You have to stay north of 100 street in Ocean City to avoid the brown people and Baltimore trash. Any place less than $150 a night is going to have shitty people. I've seen black families cram 10 people into those $75 200 square foot motel rooms down by the boardwalk.
How long were you in Baltimore? Just using apps to hookup? I just moved here
Different dude, but I lived there for 6 years. It's a big bar town and very easy to get laid. Federal Hill and Canton are where the white women with jobs go out to drink. It's pretty easy to meet people. I used to drink at Nobles and the bars in that neighborhood.
your OP image.
Pennsylvania is an utter and iredeemable shithole
Ween is from there. That redeems them.
It must be great if the band who wrote this song is from there. Also, you have terrible taste in music.
Pennsylvania is two decaying has-been cities separated by 400 miles of Amish people
Dylan's top 5 least favorite states
>Indiana (worst of everything)
>Massachusetts (worst people)
>Kansas (drive through and flyover state)
>Iowa (drive through and flyover state)
>Mississippi (only like the gulf coast)
Canada
Georgia was probably my least favorite state I've been to. It was 106 F in October. Atlanta is a hellhole with no redeeming qualities. Savannah is cool I guess but it's like colonial architecture and that's it.
Atlanta is just a comically awful city:
>Deep South swamp ass climate
>Detroit-tier demographics
>Urban planning of Dallas
>Northeast cost-of-living
>No beach, no mountains
You could not design a less attractive place if you tried
New York, I live in it.
Ohio
I've been to every state and the worst is Washington. Filled with beaners, Black folk, visiting WinCo in Olympia is like going to a fricking UN refugee camp
And the idiot gay punks and empty headed liberal farmer's market denizens will still whine that "Olympia and Tumwater are tooo white boo hoo"
you just went to the cities?
you missed the entire point of washington state
I've spent significant time in 45/50 states. Every state I've been to has something redeeming about it. I think it's more fair to list the worst aspects
Worst Scenery: a toss up between Nebraska, Iowa and Kansas. You really have to struggle to find something unique to see outdoors
Worst People: Pennsylvania. I've never been to an place in the US where the people were angrier than Pennsylvania.
Most Expensive: Hawaii. A beer and a plate of fried Calamari is like $60 on Maui. The resorts charge $14 for a beer and $20 for a wienertail. Gas was $6 a gallon. A steak at the grocery store was $20. I've never seen higher prices anywhere.
Worst Weather: Arizona, Nevada. You literally can't walk outside without melting for 6 months out of the year.
>Worst Weather: Arizona, Nevada. You literally can't walk outside without melting for 6 months out of the year.
I disagree. Only June-August is truly awful, the other "summer" months aren't bad. 95 degrees at 7% humidity with a slight breeze is actually pretty pleasant.
IMO the Deep South and Florida summers are much worse. Plus in Phoenix you can get in your car and be in Flagstaff (where it's 75 in July outside) in two hours. Not so much in the Southeast.
>Worst People: Pennsylvania. I've never been to a place in the US where the people were angrier than Pennsylvania.
Obvious lie.
>Worst Scenery
Worst Scenery would probably be Delaware. At least the Great Plains states have a cool steppe vibe and you can see for miles, especially when there is a sunset or a big thunderstorm.
Delaware is basically just cookie cutter outlet chain stores and farms that stretch all of it's small, tax evading existence, and then Wilmington is a polluted ghetto that nobody cares about. There are beaches but they are only 'good' because it's the closest to DC. That's it. It's all recently built town homes and mowed lawns. There's hardly anything to see in the state except a few parks which are nothing special.
>Worst People
Worst people have to be Maryland. Glowing snobs with the ego of yanks and the aesthetic of rednecks. And of course it is a crime ridden hellhole. Pretty similar to Pennsylvania but more glowie. Pennsylvanians seem more down to earth and honest.
>Most Expensive
Never been to Hawaii but I'm sure it's similar to Alaska where everything is imported so the prices are ridiculous.
>Worst Weather
Arizona and Nevada are dry hot though. Alabama has the worst weather. At least in Florida it rains every day but Alabama you just have swamp ass for days and wild thunderstorms. It's absolutely insane and doesn't stop til November and I can't understand how people even live there.
Delaware is just a tiny little state though. And they have a great coastline with some really nice little beach towns and parks. I can see maybe hating it if you were from Philadelphia and the only part of it you had seen was the shithole in Wilmington, but Bethany Beach, Fenwick Island, Dewey, Cape Henlopen State Park, Slaughter Beach? There's no way you could have been to those beaches.
Worst Scenery: Oklahoma. The other plains states are boring sure, but at least they have some character and variety. Oklahoma is vast, empty, and feels like it never recovered from the Dust Bowl. Cities are gritty and shitty, and unless you like gambling on one of the shitty reservations there's no real reason to go there.
Worst People: Minnesota. They are the most confusing, rude, filthy, moronic people in the country. Interacting with any of them whether they're Somalis fresh off the boat or people whose families have been here since the Civil War feels like talking to an alien trying to approximate what being "nice" is.
t. Minnesotan born in AZ who's getting the frick out of this place this year
Most Expensive: Hawaii. Consensus is universal on that one and it's basically a shitpost at this point.
Worst Weather: A tossup between Michigan, Wisconsin, and MN. Summers are sweaty, steamy, and hot with shitty air quality, winters are Siberian, and fall/spring is a tossup between really nice perfect weather, an extension of winter and summer, or gray, cold, wetness.
>Worst People: Minnesota. They are the most confusing, rude, filthy, moronic people in the country. Interacting with any of them whether they're Somalis fresh off the boat or people whose families have been here since the Civil War feels like talking to an alien trying to approximate what being "nice" is.
>t.knuckle-dragging wisconsinite
>worst weather: arizona, nevada
I'd take sweltering dry southwest over miserable humidity any day. 114 degrees with 10% humidity in Phoenix is more tolerable than 93 degrees with 85% humidity in Orlando or Houston or Chicago
Agreed. Minneapolis/Twin Cities in summer is fricking hell compared to Phoenix in the summer imo.
Kansas
west virginia imo. there was some nice scenery but that was about it.
Kentucky was a shithole
Arkansas was a shithole
Virginia was a shithole
North dakota was a shithole
I liked Kentucky. Louisville has a great bar scene and a bunch of amazing breweries. I dare you to have a bad time at a bourbon tasting. They built a bike trail called the Parklands that connects 6 new parks in the city. I rode it last time I was in town visiting. Churchill Downs was awesome. They had a good art scene. We went to a rad free museum downtown at a hotel called 21c. The Red River Gorge had some great hiking trails. The pedestrian bridge over the river is awesome. I wish more cities would do stuff like that. There's a lot of great food too, surprisingly. If they could ever fix the black crime problem downtown, Louisville would be a great city.
I feel like every state is the worst state.
I can't think of a single place here id want to live.
I feel like the "best" places are he ones where ou can be left alone forever and LARP that you don't live in a miserable shithole
Is there single decent city to live in in this entire country
Not interested in /misc/ stuff or any reasoning like that just a place that isn't a shithole and isn't so god damn car dependent
>Salt Lake City
>San Diego
>Boise
>Portland (Maine)
All about average in terms of walkability (so not great but OK if you live right downtown) and not riddled with crime, homelessness, general filth etc.
Feel like Portland and slc are the best options if you're not rich
If you're worried and homeless tweekers, take SLC and San Diego out of that list. Both places have gotten really bad in the past several years.
I'm always shocked at how many homeless drug addicts I see in San Diego. It's so much nicer in Orange County in San Clemente, Newport, Dana Point, Corona Del Mar. But even Huntington Beach has a lot of that shit. They had a problem during covid in Laguna Beach after the city opened a homeless shelter, but they cracked down and it's gotten much better.
MBTA sucks but Boston is walkable and only a shithole on the surface. It's cyclable too although morons still end up dead. There's a lot of students and young people in their 20s and 30s living there as well as people with money.
Living in Boston is like living in NYC except with all the shitty parts amplified.
>MBTA is worse than MTA by far
>Traffic is worse by far
>Rent is worse or just as bad
>People are meaner
>Climate is worse
>Nightlife and Restaurants are worse
There is really no reason to live there over NYC.
Don't forget, worse baseball and hockey team.
>get off the plane at Logan
>half the airport staff is arab or indian and barely speaks english, or black
>wow that was weird, maybe they just hire a lot of minorities
>the bus downtown is full of arabs
>chinatown is full of koreans and chinese
>STILL seeing arabs everywhere
>hostel is full of spaniards
>go to south station to catch an amtrak
>blacks and arabs everywhere
what the hell happened to "the white utopia of new england?"
It's still infinitely more white than any other city on the east coast.
is full of koreans and chinese
tourist chinese and koreans. obviously the asian district would have asians there, but these were all students or fresh off the plane tourists
Nope. Leave.
you don't need a car in philadelphia, I save like $6k a year by living in the city and walking / biking everywhere, it's one of the few non car dependent cities in America that's affordable, and if you live in the nice parts its good (eg rittenhouse / graduate hospital / fairmount / old city / not shitty K&A or strawberry mansino)
You could save another 6K by not paying rent and living in a muddy hole in the ground which would be preferable to living in Philadelphia.
It's gotta be Kansas.
Pennsylvania has more culture than 90% of U.S states
We've been over this. Weirdo cultists that live on farms and ride horses aren't "culture."
Nevada. Insanely depressing and just disgusting to look at overall. The entire place just looks like a gravel pit and the people there are mongrels.
I've spent a decent amount of time all over Nevada. The only place I would consider living is in the Carson City to Stateline (South Lake Tahoe) area. Nevada is the reason I will always vote against any kind of gambling expansion in my state. When you legalize casinos, you sell your soul and invite the worst kinds of people.
I actually don’t mind at all that this state filters people because it’s the best state in the country and it would be great if they didn’t move here en masse to ruin it.
Some day very soon I will conduct my pilgrimage to the holy land...
It's not even the best Dakota
>WA
Only thing that makes this state interesting are the places not touched by people. It's either woodlands or premanufactured suburban dystopia and hard drugs in Seattle. The culture is fricking awful and you get the expensive side of shit because of tech bros/jeets shitting everything up
>Illinois
Rural as frick outside of Chicago. North Chicago is almost nice. Financial district dominates downtown so after 5pm it's practically dead. Chicago has some of the most feral Black folk I've ever seen. If you're driving and you start seeing numbers instead of street names you fricked up. This city is schizophrenia manifest: Palatable neighborhoods pockmarked with stripmalls interspaced with some of the harshest fricking ghettos in the country.
Worst: Mississippi
Best: Massachusetts
It's a toss up between Alabama and Arkansas.
New York. Specifically NYC. I guess cities really are unnatural. They are often depicted as being FAR COOLER in media. Who could've guessed. They have their perks, but rural living probably edges out the cities every time. Why do I mention living? Because traveling to cities is the same shit. Just like traveling anywhere...honestly. Except for like natural parks and stuff. I feel like once I've seen a town OR city, I've essentially seen them all. I haven't been to Tokyo, but it's like frick do I even want to? I'd have to learn an entire language just to get around.
But yeah, NYC sucks. Rude people, average food, extremely expensive. One real park in the middle of like 300 miles of concrete? And the subway is old as frick. And the city has like 10 million people can you imagine living in that. I'll stick to my town of 1,000 people.
American towns are pretty cookiecutter since they all developed roughly the same time and have similar histories.
>Blandevillia, California was settled by gold miners in 1850's
>mines went bust, destitute workers fled back east
>those who remained started ranches and built railroads
>by 1900 oil was found, money everywhere
>mass migration during depression
>hippies in 60's
>entertainment/tech in 80's
>shithole by 90's
meanwhile every midwestern town is
>small agriculture town on river
>steamboat and civil war built up the town as rural settlers fled bushwackers/sherman
>everyone works wageslave factory jobs for israelite yorkers
>once the busiest railroad hub for almost 5 years until town 100 miles west became bigger
>mafia existed in 20's but wasn't all that interesting
>number one supplier of ration satchels nationwide in WWII
>peaked in 50's
>ghetto by 80's
>parts of city are currently liveable while most is a Black shithole
East coast is the only halfway interesting part of the nation, and even then it's pretty much
>some founding father said a quote in this house
>"historic" downtown that's a dozen or so pre-US buildings and the rest less than 200 y/o
>"General Lee once slept in a cabin that used to stand under this freeway interchange"
>KKK in early 1900's
>segregation in 50's
>shithole by 80's
>50%+ black today
>meanwhile every midwestern town is
>everyone works wageslave factory jobs for israelite yorkers
>New York
This is the only US state I've been in so by definition it is the worst
I agree with your sentiment on NYC though. plenty of people irl rave about it and it sucks
>NYC sucks. Rude people, average food, extremely expensive.
agreed. i almost use it as a litmus test for traveling. if anyone says they travel around a lot but starts raving about how great NYC is, then they're braindead moronic
>Average food
This is just objectively false. Chances are if they were rude to you it's because you were a slow fat frick blocking the way.
The correct answer is West Virginia.
My vote is Indiana, but I do agree that WV is close to the worst.
While the northeast part of the state isnt terrible, places like Huntington, Barboursville, and Charleston are trashy hillbilly hellholes.
There are some almost redeeming smaller cities and towns that are actually pretty decent though.
Morgantown, Harpers Ferry, Sutton, and Point Pleasant come to mind.
But yeah the majority of the surrounding mountains and rural areas are full of some of the trashiest, worst people you could ever imagine.
Louisiana sucks donkey balls. It's dirty, crime-ridden, everything is falling apart, the jobs suck if you aspire beyond service industry, and to add insult to injury, it's not even that cheap to live in. Mississippi has all those problems, but at least it's cheap.
Frick Louisiana.
North Dakota. Nothing to do out there except work in a boring and bland environment with people who want nothing to do with one another unless they were raised on the same 500 acre land they own
Kentucky was a close second. But it's nearby states with interesting cities within stomachable driveable distances is more appealing. Bunch of homogenous looking fricks in this state though. The cousin frickin stereotypes and farmers running gas stations memes are true.
Delaware offers nothing unique to me and feels exclusive and uppity for no reason other than having access to the same bland looking coastline that the other nearby states have better versions of
1: NY
2: NJ
3: MA
4: IL
5: GA
ohio kinda sucks
mississippi is frickin boring
southern half of akransas sucks
I have been to 47 states and I gotta say, Kansas is the worst, all-around. Nothing to look at, nothing to do, shitty people.
>pic unrelated
Alabama would be the worst for me and it wasn't really that bad. Most of it is trashy except a few nice towns, wilderness and Huntsville in the northern part. Driving through cities like birmingham or montgomery I felt really unsafe.
PA is a shithole. Anyone whose lived in another state for an extended period of time and has an IQ above 70 realizes it. You can't even drink the tap water their.
>You can't even drink the tap water their.
I've drunk a lifetime's worth of Pennsylvania tap water and I know which "there" homophone to use for a location.
It's a shithole, but the water is just fine.
It's gotta be New Mexico
Dusty run down shithole towns. 2nd most crime ridden state in the country. I get breaking bad vibes in every little town you'd pass through on the interstate, like methed up people. I will admit Santa Fe is cool and the landscape is very pretty but besides that, I would avoid.
Alabama, Nebraska, and Kentucky
Missouri and Kansas were pretty bleak too
Red states in general are pretty fricking horrible, though Georgia and Louisiana weren't as bad as I expected and Virginia seemed pretty normal
I've never set foot in Texas and I hope I never do
Not a state but Puerto Rico has been the only trip I have taken that felt like a straight up waste of time.
Actual states? Probably Montana
because the ski resort I went to (whitefish) was a major let down. It looks lovely otherwise.
i had the pleasure of going to cleveland ohio to see a concert. everyone there was either morbidly obese or a methhead. the city blew. the only redeeming factor was the metroparks, which were cool to walk through when there wasnt a junkie shooting up or a hooker giving a blowjob.
I don’t see why people hate Pennsylvania so much. Sure, the Eastern counties are filled with black people and Dominicans from New York but that’s really surged just over the last decade, and it’s only in those counties. Outside of those counties, Pennsylvania is the most quintessentially American state in the country.
>Oh no! It doesn’t have tech jobs! Yeah, that’s a good thing.
Most of these states you guys love are nothing but suburban sprawls built up after the war. Meanwhile, Pennsylvania has more history in one corner than all of the other states combined. And there’s only 4 or 5 states more important influential anyway.
south carolina or maryland
Oklahoma
It is literally hell on earth
>Giant bugs
>Terrible drivers
>Corrupt cops/legal system that charged me a "deferred adjudication fee" to basically look the other way on a ticket
>Hoya hoyas who drink mouthwash at travel stations
>Littered campgrounds
I'm sure there are nice parts, but the shitty parts are REALLY shitty