Colorado has some of the greatest places to live in the American heartland, though the eastern third of the state is a featureless wasteland, the Denver metro is miles of soulless sprawl, and the lower Arkansas valley / Pueblo area is plain hideous.
Vermont is a kickass little inland state. I'd put it up there for desirability, though I don't care for the state's culture or climate.
Arizona's towns and cities are pretty lame, but the nature is awesome, and it has a huge variety of elevations. One can easily keep high temps between 55 and 90 F year-round by moving to different elevations within the state.
Idaho is the best state if you are a rock-ribbed conservative who wants to live in the forest. Idaho has a higher % of national forest land than any other state in America.
Haven't been to Minnesota or Wisconsin, but they seem pretty cool.
Confirmed. It looks like a post card, outdoor activities are awesome. But holy frick, is everyone old. It's an isolating place. I honestly love roasties since I moved out a few years ago just due to how isolating it is there.
If you work in tech like me, then there's no comparison. What high paying jobs are in Idaho and Wyoming? In fact, I challenge you to name 3 major tech companies in Wyoming and Idaho combined. Colorado has tons like Zoom, Workday, and Tesla.
Not only that, Colorado's nature is equally impressive >pic related
>n fact, I challenge you to name 3 major tech companies in Wyoming and Idaho combined
Why? This is a travel forum not business
Also if you work a tech job that's not WFH it's because you aren't getting important enough to have leverage kek
If you work in tech like me, then there's no comparison. What high paying jobs are in Idaho and Wyoming? In fact, I challenge you to name 3 major tech companies in Wyoming and Idaho combined. Colorado has tons like Zoom, Workday, and Tesla.
Not only that, Colorado's nature is equally impressive >pic related
Weather wise, yes, winter is at least a month shorter and summers aren't as hot and dry.
>n fact, I challenge you to name 3 major tech companies in Wyoming and Idaho combined
Why? This is a travel forum not business
Also if you work a tech job that's not WFH it's because you aren't getting important enough to have leverage kek
>What high paying jobs are in Idaho and Wyoming?
Oilfield and mining stuff.
Kek flyovers arguing over who's state is the least souless
>Haven't been to Minnesota or Wisconsin, but they seem pretty cool.
I lived in WI for a few years (went to graduate school there) and had a great experience. If it weren’t for my personal distaste for the intensity of the winters I could settle in Madison quite happily. Of course, I am a bookish liberal snowflake who specifically enjoys college towns; more conservative types might find the place annoying.
And one of my closest friends moved to Minneapolis as a young adult and never looked back; haters are obviously going to hate but I found the Twin Cities thoroughly enjoyable during a number of visits. Impressive bicycling culture, largely sincerely friendly, some surprisingly good restaurants and bars, and a lively local music scene. Pretty cheap, too, relatively speaking.
But Midwestern winters aren’t my bag. I was born on one coast and lived most of my adult life on the other before expatriating, and if I ever move back to the US it’ll probably be to a coastal state.
I've lived in Colorado, Kansas and Minnesota and I'm from a coastal state (Florida)
The Western side of Colorado (foothills up into the mountains) is probably some of the most desirable areas to live in the entire country, unbelievably expensive since wealthy Californians bought up most of the real estate to turn it into an Airbnb dystopia.
Longmont, Loveland and Ft Collins are the only affordable towns left with reasonable access to the mountains, everything else is either a literal waste land (more east the more flat and featureless it is truly nothing out there) a gigantic sprawl filled with mexicans (Denver) or one giant crack/meth den (Springs, Pueblo, etc). Unfortunately its just going to get worse unless they actually crack down on crime (CO is notoriously soft on crime) and wealthy californians buying out literally every property ever.
Kansas is actually really nice. Every millennial you'll meet there will complain about how bad it is, but its not like they have better options. Most of them pine for California or something, but they'll quickly be met with the reality of living outside of the mid-west and its not pretty. (mass immigration, rampant crime, extreme costs of living with stagnant wages, etc)
Minnesota is my favorite though. People are chill as frick, especially if you live near an enclave of 1st generation American-Scandanavians, cheap as frick, plenty of nature, only thing you have to cope with is the winters. I rent a 3 bed 1900 sqft house in MN for the cost of a no bedroom flat in California.
I live right on the border of Tennessee and Kentucky. Good places if you like to go innawoods, hunt, fish,camp, hike and see cool cave systems and smokey mountains. Cimate is pretty mild but you get all 4 seasons. Cost of living is still pretty cheap but it looks like we are starting to be bought out by californians and shit.
Not too many nogs here, unless Memphis of course but the ones who are around seem to all mostly behave themselves.
It really depends on what you want. Vermont, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Tennessee have their charms, but if you want to LARP like a cowboy you really can’t beat Colorado, Utah, or Arizona.
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Colorado has some of the greatest places to live in the American heartland, though the eastern third of the state is a featureless wasteland, the Denver metro is miles of soulless sprawl, and the lower Arkansas valley / Pueblo area is plain hideous.
Vermont is a kickass little inland state. I'd put it up there for desirability, though I don't care for the state's culture or climate.
Arizona's towns and cities are pretty lame, but the nature is awesome, and it has a huge variety of elevations. One can easily keep high temps between 55 and 90 F year-round by moving to different elevations within the state.
Idaho is the best state if you are a rock-ribbed conservative who wants to live in the forest. Idaho has a higher % of national forest land than any other state in America.
Haven't been to Minnesota or Wisconsin, but they seem pretty cool.
Vermont can be difficult to live in culturally since everyone is an aging hippy
Confirmed. It looks like a post card, outdoor activities are awesome. But holy frick, is everyone old. It's an isolating place. I honestly love roasties since I moved out a few years ago just due to how isolating it is there.
Is Colorado that much better than Idaho and Wyoming?
If you work in tech like me, then there's no comparison. What high paying jobs are in Idaho and Wyoming? In fact, I challenge you to name 3 major tech companies in Wyoming and Idaho combined. Colorado has tons like Zoom, Workday, and Tesla.
Not only that, Colorado's nature is equally impressive
>pic related
>n fact, I challenge you to name 3 major tech companies in Wyoming and Idaho combined
Why? This is a travel forum not business
Also if you work a tech job that's not WFH it's because you aren't getting important enough to have leverage kek
The post says "best" non-Coastal state with no other qualifiers. Just my personal definition. No jobs and/or high taxes is a killer for me.
Fair enough, my field is in EV, not mining
>What high paying jobs are in Idaho and Wyoming?
Oilfield and mining stuff.
Weather wise, yes, winter is at least a month shorter and summers aren't as hot and dry.
Kek flyovers arguing over who's state is the least souless
>Haven't been to Minnesota or Wisconsin, but they seem pretty cool.
I lived in WI for a few years (went to graduate school there) and had a great experience. If it weren’t for my personal distaste for the intensity of the winters I could settle in Madison quite happily. Of course, I am a bookish liberal snowflake who specifically enjoys college towns; more conservative types might find the place annoying.
And one of my closest friends moved to Minneapolis as a young adult and never looked back; haters are obviously going to hate but I found the Twin Cities thoroughly enjoyable during a number of visits. Impressive bicycling culture, largely sincerely friendly, some surprisingly good restaurants and bars, and a lively local music scene. Pretty cheap, too, relatively speaking.
But Midwestern winters aren’t my bag. I was born on one coast and lived most of my adult life on the other before expatriating, and if I ever move back to the US it’ll probably be to a coastal state.
wtf going on here
Diogenes pissing on the floor
May as well just ask what the best state is, that's a rather redundant way to elongate your post
I've lived in Colorado, Kansas and Minnesota and I'm from a coastal state (Florida)
The Western side of Colorado (foothills up into the mountains) is probably some of the most desirable areas to live in the entire country, unbelievably expensive since wealthy Californians bought up most of the real estate to turn it into an Airbnb dystopia.
Longmont, Loveland and Ft Collins are the only affordable towns left with reasonable access to the mountains, everything else is either a literal waste land (more east the more flat and featureless it is truly nothing out there) a gigantic sprawl filled with mexicans (Denver) or one giant crack/meth den (Springs, Pueblo, etc). Unfortunately its just going to get worse unless they actually crack down on crime (CO is notoriously soft on crime) and wealthy californians buying out literally every property ever.
Kansas is actually really nice. Every millennial you'll meet there will complain about how bad it is, but its not like they have better options. Most of them pine for California or something, but they'll quickly be met with the reality of living outside of the mid-west and its not pretty. (mass immigration, rampant crime, extreme costs of living with stagnant wages, etc)
Minnesota is my favorite though. People are chill as frick, especially if you live near an enclave of 1st generation American-Scandanavians, cheap as frick, plenty of nature, only thing you have to cope with is the winters. I rent a 3 bed 1900 sqft house in MN for the cost of a no bedroom flat in California.
>Kansas is actually really nice.
No it's not moron kek
Utah and Wyoming
Utah sucks
Vermont, especially if you like colder temperatures.
Do the Great lakes count as coasts?
Pennsylvania, it's a microcosm of the entire US in one conveniently located state
The mainline is where true wealth hides
>t. Lives in gladwyne
I like Tennessee.
Generally moderate climate, varied terrain, some interesting music if that's your thing, and still very white other than Memphis.
it's colorado, 100%. There's really no comparison. In fact it rivals most costal states.
Did realise Lewis and Clarke were israelites
Louisiana in the winter and Illinois in the summer. Do those count as being non-coastal?
Ohio, the galactic imperial capital
Damn it really was all Ohio the whole time
Colorado and new Mexico
Probably Utah, Idaho, or Arizona
I live right on the border of Tennessee and Kentucky. Good places if you like to go innawoods, hunt, fish,camp, hike and see cool cave systems and smokey mountains. Cimate is pretty mild but you get all 4 seasons. Cost of living is still pretty cheap but it looks like we are starting to be bought out by californians and shit.
Not too many nogs here, unless Memphis of course but the ones who are around seem to all mostly behave themselves.
Illinois? Chicago is a pretty good place to be in nowadays.
South Dakota
idaho
It really depends on what you want. Vermont, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Tennessee have their charms, but if you want to LARP like a cowboy you really can’t beat Colorado, Utah, or Arizona.