Kutaisi at late winter. Grey snow everywhere, everyone looks dodgy as frick and the city center is completely dilapidated. Only stayed for one night and was starting to question what sort of a shithole I've wandered into by coming to Georgia for six weeks. Ended up going to Tbilisi and had a completely different impression. Generally liked it. It probably isn't all that bad, I was there at the worst time when snows are melting and everything looks grey and gross. That said I did get a feeling people in Kutaisi were a lot poorer than Tbilisi and it felt dodgier.
I thought Tbilisi was fine. Some parts of Georgia look extremely run down, but people are rarely a threat. I was walking from a monastery near Tbilisi and some guys were driving down the road and shooting pistols. Pretty sure he had aimed at me but obviously they didn't shoot me. I thought that was sketchy as shit. I took a shortcut through bushes afterwards. I'm nearly sure I could hear them drive back to where they last saw me. Frick knows what they wanted. Only really dangerous encounter of that sort that I've ever had.
This, except for in July. You'd think an oil rich country like that would try to make their capital at least somewhat interesting.
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What's the biggest hellhole youve been to?
Kingston is objectively the biggest shithole. Although, a lot of the US are almost as bad. Nearly all of Portland is a fricking tent city at this point. Naples wins for Europe though, even Bucharest is nicer.
I've got to go to a wedding in San Francisco this September. If the person who invited my wasn't a childhood friend and his family were close family friends, there would be 0% chance I'd be going. Even though I'm going to be there less than 28 hours, I have zero intention of going outside the hotel, wedding venue and airport.
dude don't have this mentality and try and have a good time. seriously, the bay area is one of the wealthiest places in the world, there is so much to see and do, just go and have a positive mentality and I know for a fact you'll have a blast
You're the biggest pussy ever and probably don't actually travel anywhere.
I had a friend like you who always whined about everything. He couldn't even have fun or be at ease at the nicest places. Kys
Nah, outside of the Tenderloin, Nob Hill, and Mission the city is actually really nice. It's a night and day difference between the downtown area and the other side of the tunnel to Chinatown.
You can't go into LA on a $20/day budget like some European backpacker and have a genuine LA experience. Fun shit in LA is going to cost money. You walk down Hollywood boulevard and you say "Wow, that a dump!" And you'd be right to think to that. But staying in the W, drinking wienertails at a rooftop bar and eating sushi at Nobu would change your perspective. Last time I was in LA 2 weeks ago, I did a 3 hour wine tasting at a rooftop bar. I dare you to have a bad time 50 floors above Hollywood Blvd drinking wine with a bunch of smoking hot milfs.
>What's the biggest hellhole youve been to?
Tijuana
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you guys have no clue what the rest of the country is like
Conservative Californians like to shit on these cities because cuckservatives have no power in the state. There are infinitely worse places even within California
Im a liberal democrat and LA and Sanfran are shitholes what are you on about. Your a homosexual for being allowing our party to do nothing for the people instead they have you by the nuts because of idpol. WW3 needs to come soone rather than later so real democrats can take back the country and all you phonies can get drone bombed in a ditch.
I'm from the bay area so I'm used to it but holy shit, when I visited LA a few months ago it's like the Mexican boarder moved up a hundred miles or so.
I’m trying to think of some story or detail that would encapsulate what being in Flint feels like. But there’s honestly too many. I guess getting harassed by a crackhead in a Coney Island drive thru until the restaurant called the police. It seems like the sky is always grey there. There are huge filters on every faucet or drinking fountain in the city to try to give you peace of mind. You can hear gunshots every night. I’m talking about the good parts of the city right now. The north side mine as well be a scene from Apocalypse Now. It’s like another dimension. It’s like living through the fall of the Soviet Union except ten times worse. Hopeless and bleak vibes on a mass scale. Driving on Dort Highway is like taking a trip through Hell itself.
>There isn't a nice place in America that is majority black.
Earth. There isn't a nice place on earth that is majority black, or even around 20% black.
Everyone on benefits, teeth falling out, shitshacks with ceilings caving in, fast food everywhere, everyone goes to weirdo evangelical church but cheats on each other, drugs drugs drugs. Oddly enough the liberals in Asheville were the best adjusted ppl.
It was bad in the 2000's but the Venezuelans turned it into an active trash fire.
Ashville has the ugliest hoes in the Carolinas (Worse than Portland) and the homeless are NYC level annoying. I never understood why it gets defended so much lol
why dont you morons just round up the homeless and crack addicts and throw them in camps like in normal countries?
canada would be great except for that shit
Because the government and social order is israeli anarchotyrrany. Every few years somebody starts serial killing junkies and then a coordinated multi agency manhunt begins that spends 10+ million dollars to capture a single person taking the garbage out.
It is trivially easy to round them up and deal with them. The problem is that the government wants the junkies and homeless sprawn present since it means more funding and more programs and more ngo mores charities.
Even if canada was genuinely the most functional, livable place on earth plenty of perfectly normal people would be looking to leave just to escape our godforsaken weather
>like in normal countries
What country does this exactly? I don’t even disagree with the idea because there needs to be a radical solution towards this.
Canada is a holding bin for degenerates and is proud of this fact. They hand out free drugs and already decriminalized hard drugs in BC.
Singapore just kills all of them and it works.
Just because Brazil is a shithole doesn't mean Canada isn't you fricking moron. God Canadians are so stupid and annoying. And it manifests everywhere in canadian life. You freaks just cant help but be a moronic butthole
You cant tell which parts of the massive concrete structures are inhabited and which ones arent. Worst nastiest businessmen, travelers, etc in the country all in one place. A very creepy place
>You cant tell which parts of the massive concrete structures are inhabited and which ones arent.
What does this mean >Slightly different because it was beautiful surroundings, but northern thailand hill tribes made me really sad. It's basically the human equivalent of the tiger temples and a pretty sad existence.
What does this mean
statistically speaking Camden may very well have the highest murder rate in the entire country and it often gets overlooked because it has less than 100k people
>There isn't a nice place in America that is majority black.
Earth. There isn't a nice place on earth that is majority black, or even around 20% black.
All black areas are basically the same, if a city is 20% black it will be 20% hell and if it is somewhere like Camden that is 100%, it will be 100% hell. The only meaningful difference in cities is in the demographics.
Californians are moronicly out of touch and LA is one of the nicest cities in this shit country. The bay area has kind of gone to shit lately though, still very nice but has some shit parts
I’ll grant you that Californians are out of touch but you’re mentally challenged if you think Los Angeles is one of the “nicer” cities in this country. There is only one city in this country that remotely qualifies as “nice” and it’s Boston. The rest are just relatively nicer or not, but as for Los Angeles, it’s not even near the threshold.
Colorado Springs mogs Boston, especially if you love mountains and sunshine. Boston has some of the most disgusting weather in America.
Certain regions of the California coast, including some areas within the LA city limits, mog every other region in the USA for desirability.
im from the bay area abd maybe ive become dulled to the visual deterioration, but crime is way down from when i was a kid. thwre has always been tweakers but now it looks really bad since they allow them ti build favelas aka cracktents
worst i have seen is a tie between las vegas and desert hot springs
las vegas is full of tweakers sitting in the sun all day baking on the sidewalk doing nothing, amd then if you leave the strip it is just walls
of sidewalks and sound walls blasting heat on you, no shade. its the epitome of indoor ac house to ac car city
desert hot springs ca is just full of so many fricking tweakers just zombining around in the sun, but the infastructure is a little more forgiving on the pedestrian out there.
south east alberquerque was littered in needles and thorns and everyone i encoubtwred there was very violent. i hung out with some locals and all they talked about was bar fights and beating their gf's
im trying to think what city had the worst infastructure and old stripped cars laying around and broken glass and most evidence of crime. new orleans? idk, that place was chill. i would see a cop every three minutes in texas and a cop every three days in new orleans
Egypt, around 2004 or so, before the revolution that occured at that time. Hot, dirty, barren, full of people that tried to rip you off, zero hygiene regarding food preparation, zero hygiene regarding toilets availible at tourist sites, literally nothing to do outside of extremely tourist focused tourist activities
>Egypt
The only place I know with a tipping "culture" worse than the US.
BTW they are currently "fixing" the garbage on the shores of the nile problem by putting concrete on the shores so the garbage slides in and is washed away.
Cities basically look like your typical FPS shooter map with added garbage. No building going on, just buildings not being finished the default.
It's fairly safe so not really a hellhole, but visually it's creating a high-rise slum impression.
Philadelphia. Is pretty shit, especially under the train on Frankford ave. But you can just cross the bridge into New Jersey to see it instantly get 10x worse. Camden, NJ is easily Hell on Earth.
statistically speaking Camden may very well have the highest murder rate in the entire country and it often gets overlooked because it has less than 100k people
Paris Gare du Nord. Not sure if I caught it on a bad day, but having come from London King's Cross through the tunnel and then that's your first impression of France and Paris. Not good.
Disorganised, lazy staff. Terrible layout and crowd management. Then you exit into the main station hall and it's filled with 3rd world morons and gypsies. Just on the walk to the exit we saw two people having bags and phones snatched by (probably Romanian) distraction gangs.
Beyond that, Cairo as mentioned, is typical of what happens when low IQ people are allowed to breed and choose to abort girls.
Slightly different because it was beautiful surroundings, but northern thailand hill tribes made me really sad. It's basically the human equivalent of the tiger temples and a pretty sad existence.
mah homie. most people don't even know about this steaming pile of shit but it certainly is up there, for America and a competitor for the developed world.
Filthy, fricked up, desperate people everywhere, severe wealth inequality on display everywhere, violent even in the bar districts with girls fighting each other over customers, rampant drug use, rampant teen prostitution, homeless everywhere. All the expats are drug addicts or fricked up somehow. It's mostly lawless and police are just another gang. Polluted and landlocked, absolutely desperate shithole of a city.
Nah, been there times and I had a great time there. Of course I had a middle class, educated Khmer gf that did everything for me, saved me skin tax etc, so my experience was probably different than most.
Colombo isn’t that bad but I hate it. The excessive police/military presence, the thieves, the scammers, and the staring poos. Loved the rest of the country. Parts of Jakarta and Siem Reap are also hellholes away from the expats/tourists. Rural Armenia is also shit, way worse than Kutaisi imo. Never been to truly awful places though (war zones or Africa)
Philadelphia.
And I've been to a bunch of latam capitals, NOLA, Memphis, DC, Chicago, europe... The difference between somewhere like CDMX and Philadelphia is the touristic parts of CDMX felt fine and it only got sketchy when you went away into the dregs of the city itself. The best parts of Philly felt sketchy as hell and outside of that was like fricking favela.
The area around city hall, Center City, is quite nice. Old City is also nice during the day. And about a mile south into South Philly is also pretty good. Nobody's gettinq mugged in Rittenhouse Square.
But yeah, the rest of the city has really gone to shit. In 2000 I lived in Tacony, which was a nice, cozy, safe neighborhood in the Northeast where kids could safely play on the street. Today, Tacony is a shithole and indistinguishable from the average North Philly ghetto. Things got really bad with the new soft-on-crime district attorney in 2017.
I guarantee you that there have been mugging a in Rittenhouse Square this year. Philadelphians like to cope by saying “oh, center city is nice” and it is nice aesthetically, but there are still homeless, nutcases, and basketball-americans looking to do things as the result of purely socioeconomic factors everywhere. Rittenhouse Square is no exception to that. I can admit, however, that maybe nobody has been shot there this year.
Also, the guys not soft-on-crime, he rewards criminals and persecutes cops. He’s probably the single most activist leftist district attorney in this country.
Went to Phnom Penh in 2006 and would request tuk tuk drivers to take me somewhere I could drink out of the city and ended up in some really depressing semi rural areas that domalia puts to shame
Yeah, this. And the rural areas are even worse---lower than Africa-tier because at least in Africa, the people seem somewhat happy. It's pretty bizarre that once you cross the border from Thailand, the whole vibe and atmosphere abruptly shifts. Khmer are the Haitians of Asia, and they'll never, ever tire of blaming the Thais and Viets for all their woes, when in reality, they're just a bunch of subhuman-IQ human shitstains.
It’s not dangerous, but don’t walk around alone at night in PP because there are shitbags around who won’t hesitate to shoot you if you don’t hand your shit over. Also, resist the idea of renting a scooter to travel around the city. The people drive like idiots, and if you do get in an accident, even if it’s not your fault, the logic there goes—-“This is my country, you shouldn’t be here. Therefore if you weren’t here, this never would have happened. So, it’s your fault. Now fricking pay me.” and if you don’t and a crowd builds up, fricking run.
I wonder how much better it's gotten since I went there. I'm in Vietnam now and I'm always very tempted to head over there again for a week but I worry I'll just be disappointed again.
What is SighSee's obsession with IQ?
IQ is designed to measure how one would perform in an academic setting. Its literally how good of a human calculator are you.
Its not some magic measure of intelligence
Baltimore, MD. Outside of the downtown core around the harbor and the stadiums, it was pretty miserable. There were entire blocks where every house was either abandoned or should be.
I lived in Baltimore for 4 years while I was in college at Towson. Baltimore has some of the worst neighborhoods you will ever see in the US. But there are neighborhoods around the city that are white, fairly safe and have an awesome bar scene. Canton, Federal Hill, The Inner Harbor and Federal Hill are all good areas. I met my wife in Federal Hill. The bar scene there is all white and middle class 20-30 year old's. I never had a problem in any of those areas in the 4 years I lived there.
I did have issues where I lived on North Howard Street. My car was broken into 5 times in 4 years. Someone was shot and killed in front of my house. The men's sober living house next door to me burned down to the ground one night when some addict left a cigarette burning and fell asleep. I road the bus to Towson a couple times because parking on campus was so bad. It was the worst bus route in the city. I stopped taking the bus after a fight broke out and some threats were made. I graduated and moved out of the city right before the Freddie Gray riots in 2015. Would I ever move back? Hell no. Would I visit and go to an O's game and a pub crawl afterwards in Fed Hill? Hells yes.
I got turned around in Baltimore and ended up walking north of Fells Point about two blocks. I knew I had fricked up when the overwhelming scent of piss and sight of broken glass was in front of me. This skinny black lady (definitely on the market, if you know what I mean) said something like, "Oh white boy you ain't wanna be around here." So I told her where I was trying to go and she walked with me back to the outer edge of Fells Point and said, "I don't know where it is but it ain't up there" then left. Such a weird night
When I lived there in 2014, you could go to a $10 All You Can Drink in Federal Hill at Nobles that lasted 3 hours. It included rail shots, beer, or any rail liquor. It was the same crowd every week. We all kept it secret. People would get absolutely obliterated. It was a crazy party every week. That place still does $3 domestic cans every day all day. There is almost nowhere in the US where you can drink cheaper than Baltimore with a white crowd of 20 year olds. It really is a fun city. But don't take a wrong turn and end up in the wrong hood.
>Canton, Federal Hill, The Inner Harbor and Federal Hill are all good areas.
Based. I lived and worked in Mt. Vernon for a couple years and it wasn't too bad. You just had to know where to go and stay in your lane. I also left right after the Freddie Gray riots cause the writing was on the wall for that city.
Kind of a bummer, cause I liked some of the architecture and history.
Why did Baltimore become a shithole?
With the other major American shitholes, the reason for their decline (or eternal shittiness) is pretty obvious
But Baltimore was never rust belt, was never a significant center of slave trade, nothing like that.
It's a eastern seaboard city in a relatively wealthy state just like New York, Boston, Philly, etc.
The hell happened to Baltimore to make it probably America's biggest shithole?
Not to sound racist, but the answer is black people and drugs. Maryland has created a perpetual welfare system where black women are encouraged to have as many children as they can to receive a larger welfare check. The kids run wild in the city with zero supervision. The democrats promise them more money and the cycle continues getting progressively worse every year.
Forced sterilization for violent felons, mandatory abortions for unwed mothers and work for welfare programs would cure the problem in 10 years. We aren't ready to accept that truth yet as a society.
Okay, but that's true of a lot of places
What's different about Baltimore that's made it so awful?
10 months ago
Anonymous
If you make a list of 50 cities in the US with the highest percentages of African Americans, you also made a list of the 50 most violent cities in the US. It's a perfect 1/1 list just in a slightly different order. .
10 months ago
Anonymous
This is neither true nor answering my question
Baltimore is not the blackest city in America
Go home, stormgay election tourist
10 months ago
Anonymous
Of the 20 cities in the US with the highest population of black people, literally every one appears in the list of the top 50 most violent cities in the US. If you have different information, I would be happy to look through it.
I only had to make it to #2 on that list to prove that no, Jackson is not on your list of the top 50 most violent cities in the US
This of course in of itself is fricking moronic, because as anyone familiar with the city well knows, Jackson is an absolute shithole and is absolutely a great example to support your argument.
In short, this just means that your sources are moronic and you didn't even bother looking at them.
It's not even so much your argument is wrong as it is that your very existence is wrong and we would all have been better off if your mother had aborted you, because we are all dumber for having ever interacted with you.
10 months ago
Anonymous
You have to click on the chart and arrange it by black population. Try comparing it now professor doofus.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Great job
Chicago is also not on that list of most dangerous cities in the US
10 months ago
Anonymous
Chicago has the most murders of any city in the US (695 in 2022). And the largest number of blacks (845,000). This is not a coincidence.
Madrid Spain has a million more people than Chicago, 3.23 million vs 2.67 million in Chicago. Madrid had 22 murders in 2022. If you want to visit a nice place in the US, go to where the blacks aren't.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I don't argue that Chicago isn't more dangerous than Madrid
I argue that the poster I'm replying to is a fricking moron who didn't even look at his sources before he posted them, and that his crackhead mother would weep in shame at his existence if she wasn't constantly too fricking high to know what's going on
10 months ago
Anonymous
I looked through the links. Even If 17 of the 20 most violent cities in the US also happen to be the cities with the most blacks, I'd say he was correct in pointing out the correlation between blacks and violent crime. That's pretty shocking.
I lived in Mount Vernon in 2021-2022 which was a weird time even for Baltimore because of COVID. Beautiful area but I never got used to the schizo layout of the city, I tried going on a walk once and took one wrong turn and found myself smack-dab in the middle of the ghetto. I didn’t see too much crime in my area but a few weeks after I moved out a woman got stabbed to death a few blocks from where I live
In some areas of Baltimore there are now posters and billboards advertising free IUDs to black women, picrel. It’s funny how transparent the whole effort is but there’s no way it’ll work
>city is prosperous >good times create weak men, etc >city raises taxes >uses that for welfare programs >this attracts non-workers who want to live off welfare >cheapest neighbourhoods start to go down the drain >mostly white workforce starts to move away >the cheap neighborhood is now a ghetto >crime skyrockets, sending the rest of the work force away >city no longer has enough of a tax base to support its programs >elections come up >Republican candidate promises to cut spending. Democrat candidate promises no cuts >the people on welfare vote Democrat 99% of the time, ensuring no Republican ever gets elected in the city >and no welfare cuts happen >city cuts spending in other areas like police and transportation instead >crime goes even higher and urban blight spreads >city tries to squeeze workers and companies even harder for tax money >even more workers leave >the cycle continues until you get Baltimore/Camden/Detroit
And the same exact thing did happen to Philadelphia. Its in the later stages, but Philly is in a way worse state than it was 20 years ago, and it is heading downwards. It is in its early stages in South Boston. Boston also has weird borders, so all the nicest areas are actually outside the city limits in another city called Cambridge. It didn't happen to NYC because they actually elected a tough on crime mayor a couple decades back to turn things around. NYC actually used to be a total shithole in the 80's.
Sure, but that's happened a lot of places. Philly, as you mentioned.
But Baltimore isn't just bad. It's far and away the worst.
What made Baltimore so much worse than, say, Philly?
we're heading in the direction of seattle/new york/san fransisco at rapid speed
10 months ago
Anonymous
Boston has had democrat mayors for decades dafuq you on about, oh a “progressive” minority woman now runs the city, so all of a sudden Boston you pay attention to the mayor and the city will go to shit?
10 months ago
Anonymous
I wouldn't call her that bad.
Boston has had democrat mayors for decades dafuq you on about, oh a “progressive” minority woman now runs the city, so all of a sudden Boston you pay attention to the mayor and the city will go to shit?
is right to an extent. I don't like Wu because she's a grifter progressive who is obsessed with diversity hires, which I don't like in any city
NYC is just hovering on the edge of falling back into that 70s/80s abyss it just escaped in the Giuliani years though
Back in 2019 it was just nice enough that I could imagine being willing to live there if I had a high enough paying job. After 2020 I doubt it
London Ontario
I actually liked Toronto a lot, but I went during summer.
It's a toss up between Sarnia or London Ontario, Canada. Living or being anywhere near these dumps was the lowest point in my life. Two ugly cities with weirdo, creeps and idiots around every corner.
Southern Ontario outside of Toronto is pretty bleak. Cant lie to yourself and pretend youre there for the TO big city amenities, but the people will still be gay and stupid, the COL/wages is lower, but still moronicly high compared to anywhere that isnt ontario
It always sucked, but its become an unfixable nightmare once the housing crisis toronto creates spills over into the next town over and the next and the next and so on
>Sarnia
Idk I actually kinda liked it. Little bit of a small town feel, the waterfront actually looks kinda kino (most ontario cities make you want to tear out your eyeballs from how ugly they are), and the border crossing is really convenient for shopping.
The road infrastructure is really good by ontario standards too since a lot of our economy is built around the transport trucks heading back & forth to michigan
10 months ago
Anonymous
Bullshit. All you doomers/end-is-nigh people are so played out. Crime has increased nationwide since the late 2010s, and NYC is nowhere near going back to that 80s/90s level of bad. You can’t really pin it all on Giuliani because how the hell did crime decrease in literally every major city and stare through the 90s, lazy Republican shilling, ignoring that tough on crime policies/war on drugs failed in the 80s
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Republicans introduce tough on crime and anti drug policies >crime decreases nationwide >Democrats say without evidence that those policies were failures and reverses them >crime spikes in Democrat run cities
Really makes you think
10 months ago
Anonymous
>actually liking sarnia
you must not have been there long or met many people lmao. trust me the more you stay the more you hate it
I lived in Mount Vernon in 2021-2022 which was a weird time even for Baltimore because of COVID. Beautiful area but I never got used to the schizo layout of the city, I tried going on a walk once and took one wrong turn and found myself smack-dab in the middle of the ghetto. I didn’t see too much crime in my area but a few weeks after I moved out a woman got stabbed to death a few blocks from where I live
I lived in Baltimore for 4 years while I was in college at Towson. Baltimore has some of the worst neighborhoods you will ever see in the US. But there are neighborhoods around the city that are white, fairly safe and have an awesome bar scene. Canton, Federal Hill, The Inner Harbor and Federal Hill are all good areas. I met my wife in Federal Hill. The bar scene there is all white and middle class 20-30 year old's. I never had a problem in any of those areas in the 4 years I lived there.
I did have issues where I lived on North Howard Street. My car was broken into 5 times in 4 years. Someone was shot and killed in front of my house. The men's sober living house next door to me burned down to the ground one night when some addict left a cigarette burning and fell asleep. I road the bus to Towson a couple times because parking on campus was so bad. It was the worst bus route in the city. I stopped taking the bus after a fight broke out and some threats were made. I graduated and moved out of the city right before the Freddie Gray riots in 2015. Would I ever move back? Hell no. Would I visit and go to an O's game and a pub crawl afterwards in Fed Hill? Hells yes.
I got turned around in Baltimore and ended up walking north of Fells Point about two blocks. I knew I had fricked up when the overwhelming scent of piss and sight of broken glass was in front of me. This skinny black lady (definitely on the market, if you know what I mean) said something like, "Oh white boy you ain't wanna be around here." So I told her where I was trying to go and she walked with me back to the outer edge of Fells Point and said, "I don't know where it is but it ain't up there" then left. Such a weird night
That's story rings very true of Baltimore.
When I lived there in 2014, you could go to a $10 All You Can Drink in Federal Hill at Nobles that lasted 3 hours. It included rail shots, beer, or any rail liquor. It was the same crowd every week. We all kept it secret. People would get absolutely obliterated. It was a crazy party every week. That place still does $3 domestic cans every day all day. There is almost nowhere in the US where you can drink cheaper than Baltimore with a white crowd of 20 year olds. It really is a fun city. But don't take a wrong turn and end up in the wrong hood.
Hotel Los Dos Laredos is still kinda cool. lots of cartel presence in nuevo laredo, state and local governments barely function, but I enjoyed 11 days there in spring 2021
I've been to several notable hellholes. >unofficial settlement >narcotown >50% of residents are criminals from other cities >armed drug addicts everywhere >ngo's not allowed in
I've been to the gypsy, syrian, Russian and bengali version of this town. When people speak of the "black hole of Calcutta" that's what they were referring to.
Probably Phnom Penh. Miserable dump. Ugly, polluted, run down, with not a spark of joy in the entire city. Except for the brothel district that's packed to the brim with 70 year old wrinkled sexpats. You can smell the poverty in the air.
Cairo is an absolute shithole too. Unreal amount of trash, absurd traffic, pollution, eternally and purposefully unfinished construction everywhere. Worst of all, it's full of Egyptians.
Out of Europe, probably Athens and Istanbul. I like both cities, even love the latter, but some of the districts are straight up godforsaken ghettos. Omonoia, Metaxourgos, Tarlabasi. Everything dead in the city center and a total shitshow.
People joke about the US being a third world country, haha, it's so violent and gross, it's just like India. But Puerto Rico is seriously a 3rd world hell hole. Filthy, crime ridden, polluted, dangerous. If someone said, hey, do you want to vacation in Oakland or Puerto Rico? I'd pick Oakland. Because at least in Oakland I can escape by car.
Probably Merida in Mexico, compared to the other places I visited in Mexico the place just felt super seedy and run-down. There were no restaurants besides American fastfood restaurants which was really weird too.
to this day, Santa Monica is still the most depressing place i've ever been to, and that was like 15 years ago before all the drugs and homelessness spilled out all over the city. I can't imagine how much worse it is nowadays
bro if santa monica is the most depressing place you've ever been to then you are a literal billionare that hasn't stepped foot outside of Malibu in your life
this is the most coddled, onions post in the thread so far, by FAR. it's honestly just such a fricking stupid thing to say. like why not south central, or watts? an actually shitty place?
if that was the case then surely downtown LA is more depressing? Santa Monica is by far the best managed part of Los Angeles, their homeless problem is minimal compared to Venice, and any of the homeless encampments along the coast absolutely pale in comparison to the endless squalor of skid row or south central
I was also shocked to see the vast income inequality my first time in LA. Seeing ultra-wealthy people drive by the poorest people alive is an experience that shocked me to my core as a kid. I remember thinking there must be something majorly wrong with the wealthy of LA to allow such suffering to exist around them. Now, idk...
Downtown is ok because security there for everything is super tight. The areas around DTLA like skid row and south central (obv) are fricking zombie apocalypse level though.
Santa Monica is alright because its not actually part of LA city so it doesn't suffer from the woke mind virus as bad as the city itself does, since it attracts successful and affluent voters. Venice is in LA though is which explains a lot. Long Beach is ok but suffers from the externalities of progressive politics too because of the very liberal population there compared to some of the cities around it.
When I lived there in 2014, you could go to a $10 All You Can Drink in Federal Hill at Nobles that lasted 3 hours. It included rail shots, beer, or any rail liquor. It was the same crowd every week. We all kept it secret. People would get absolutely obliterated. It was a crazy party every week. That place still does $3 domestic cans every day all day. There is almost nowhere in the US where you can drink cheaper than Baltimore with a white crowd of 20 year olds. It really is a fun city. But don't take a wrong turn and end up in the wrong hood.
why doesn't the US federal government sent in the army to simply destroy the blocks of the city that are totally abandoned, and just being used as crack dens?
They could and they should. There are whole neighborhoods in Baltimore that have been knocked down to build luxury apartments. Look up the Ritz Carlton residences in Federal Hill. They bribed our mayor Sheila Dixon at the time and gave her a penthouse suite for $40,000 so that the project would get approved. She ended up getting kicked out of office for stealing Wal-Mart giftcards that were supposed to go to homeless people.
>Charleroi, Belgium
What an utter dump, rusting abandoned factories and railway wagons everywhere, awful 60s apartments full of shitskins >Paris, France.
Obvious reasons >Itäkeskus, Finland.
Row upon row of misery-inducing 60s toilet-tile tower blocks, hordes of shrieking somalians everywhere >Slough, England
Quite literally an Indian/Paki colony existing in the ruins of grim 1930s sprawl >Carboneras, Spain
Concrete on top of concrete, everyone living there looks like they gave up on life 40 years ago, literally nothing to do apart from leave
>Obvious reasons
A beautiful city full of great architecture, art, history, food and beautiful women is the biggest hellhole you've been to? I genuinely hope you're trolling because you sound fricking moronic.
You're bit sheltered if you think either are a shithole, especially if you're just a tourist visiting. Speak to people IRL and most people will say they had a blast in either place, it's only really here where there are overly negative losers crying about seeing some bums while surrounded by nothing but beautiful architecture and loads of shit to do.
>You're bit sheltered if you think either are a shithole
I'm from London, I don't need to consult some uppity little dickhead on SighSee, thanks. Now frick off.
this thread is about the absolute worst place you have been to. if london is the worst place you have ever visited, then you are sheltered. no other way to describe it.
You're absolutely sheltered. No tourist goes into some shithole neighborhoods where people stab each other over post codes. The London city center and everything it offers is top tier. You're a sour moron. I lived in Oxford and always had fun visiting London even if it takes at least an hour to drive through all the urban crawl with a bus.
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>No tourist goes into some shithole neighborhoods where people stab each other over post codes.
bonus points when the tourist locations are like this, lolol
10 months ago
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>No tourist goes into some shithole neighborhoods where people stab each other over post codes
Can you not read or something? I was born and raised in London. It's a shithole. Its funny that you're accusing others of being sheltered when you're clearly the sort of person who forms their opinions of cities based on the 3 tourists traps they saw and the airport lmao.
10 months ago
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No one's talking about tourist traps. I'm saying no one is going to your Shitty Suburb 55#. There's no reason to. It's like thinking of Oxford in terms of mass made suburbs on its outskirts instead of all the historical colleges, schools, churches and museums. Are you a girl or simply British? How can you manage to be so passive aggressive even though you've been given full anonymity?
10 months ago
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>No one's talking about tourist traps. >Oh btw, that shitty city isn't shitty because it has le churches and le historical sites
Paris is a shithole even though it has Sacre-Couer and St. Germain boulevard. London is still a shithole (although to a lesser extent) even though it has Chancery Lane and the Guildhall. Why are you being such a whiny little b***h about it?
10 months ago
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Paris is not a shithole at all. Get laid you moron.
10 months ago
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>sperging out THIS much over somebody else's opinion
Utterly fricking sad
Paris is the worst city in Europe by a long shot. The small touristy parts are nice but take a step out and it’s nothing but rats and piss. Also French people, most arrogant c**ts you’ll ever meet.
I liked it. Loved the neighborhoods around the city center, the food, art, architecture and how nice it is to chill by Seine.
Probably helps I went with someone who actually speaks pretty good French, avoided really touristy shit and was there at low season. I don't blame French for not liking tourists; the average tourist is a braindead moron. To be honest people outside Paris are much nicer, especially down south. When I ate out I was at a bistro where me and my gf were the only foreigners. Not only was the price good but the food was also great.
Probably Skopje in 2008. Not because it was particularly sketchy or anything but it was depressing as frick, nobody seemed to want to be there. Parts of Belgrade were also really fricking shit, especially the slum where they put all the gypsies although I never actually went in there, but most of that city was actually really lovely
I’ve been to a lot of places, including some mostly unpleasant ones. I’m *from* San fricking Francisco, the city everyone here (and on many other swathes of the vile internet) loves to hate, and it’s never been as bad as its reputation. It’s struggling in a lot of ways, always has been, worse now in some relatively
new ways, but it’s also always been awesome. And the worst of it has nothing to do with homeless people or junkies or liberals or homosexuals, and more to do with libertarian-capitalist tech money. The engines that have driven San Francisco for decades now have more in common with SighSee (with a side of /misc/, albeit smarter and richer and less explicitly racist the low-achieving masses of that shithole) than with any other board.
The worst hellholes I have ever personally visited have been empty, hollow commerce machines, fueled either by tourism or by other quasi-extractive industries. These include but are not limited to Las Vegas, Dubai, lots of the Caribbean, and at least half of Florida. Pattaya, the worst beach in Thailand and the ugliest town in a still-beautiful country, where the most vulgar underbelly of tourists get to pretend they’re normal. Cruise ship ports and resort towns catering to alcoholic British people fall pretty low on my personal list as well. Anywhere with a Señor Frog’s emporium. Kuşadası, Turkey, followed by Antalya, are the worst towns in a country with great richness, historical interest and beauty. Sharm El Sheikh, in Egypt is depressing, but a surprisingly good place to practice German. I don’t have a lot of time for the Algarve or for the Costa del Sol in Spain, but there’s still some charm obscured by the pub crawls.
But I still don’t get why people who supposedly like to travel want to spend time on the internet whining about places they don’t enjoy. Just get over it and go somewhere else.
>muh techbros are the reason san fran has a world class problem with feces on the streets
Never suggested anything of the sort. I meant that techbros and their lords and masters and the local pols who bend over backwards to accommodate them are a worse problem for SF than the homeless epidemic, drugs and shit in the streets and all (and there are still plenty of streets that have never been beshat and never will be, incidentally—homelessness and fentanyl and all that are undeniably awful but not truly omnipresent).
Tech money has exacerbated the homeless problem by driving up rents even higher and making housing the homeless inside city limits less and less realistic. But worse than that, the last few tech booms have driven out many of the creative and interesting people who made San Francisco a cool place to live. Tech kids pay the outlandish rents, maybe eat at some of the restaurants (although they’re more likely to make somebody broke deliver it), but they don’t contribute to or support local culture in meaningful ways. They do all their shopping online, so interesting local businesses die. They neither make art nor pay to look at, listen to, or watch it, so cultural offerings wither. They buy million-dollar glass box condos in former nightlife-rich neighborhoods and whine about noise, so music venues are wiped out.
And because SF politicians have spent decades now kissing big tech’s ass with tax advantages and other corporate welfare/handouts, the tech plutocrats have raked in more and more money to hide overseas while robbing the city of what could have been billions of dollars in tax and other revenues. So San Francisco becomes simultaneously more sterile and seedier.
Seems like the present economic downturn and techbro emigration might actually have a small corrective influence on this blight. But a lot of what used to be wonderful about SF is deeply rotten and may never recover. I’ll concede that
>And because SF politicians have spent decades now kissing big tech’s ass with tax advantages and other corporate welfare/handouts, the tech plutocrats have raked in more and more money to hide overseas while robbing the city of what could have been billions of dollars in tax and other revenues. So San Francisco becomes simultaneously more sterile and seedier.
oof
I thought this was a copypasta when reading the first paragraph. It reads like it was written by a living liberal stereotype. You even shoehorned in some seething about /misc/ for no reason.
can you recommend places in turkey and egypt you liked?
>and it’s never been as bad as its reputation agree. Most of San Fransisco proper is clean, the urban architecture is interesting, and the city is quite pleasant to explore.
>And the worst of it has nothing to do with homeless people or junkies or liberals or homosexuals, and more to do with libertarian-capitalist tech money.
disagree with this part - can you please explain what you mean by this? The largest issue in the bay area by far is the homeless population. Yes, the restrictive housing laws may have lead to the homeless population, but the homeless drug addicts ARE the problem.
People would hear that I lived near San Francisco and everyone would want to console me about the homeless problem. "Oh, it's so awful. How can you stand all the crime?" I lived on the other side of bridge in a town called Tiburon. It's like the 3rd wealthiest town in the US, and the second safest. My condo was right in the middle of this pic. It was one of the most amazing places I've ever been in my life. SF and Tiburon are less than 15 miles apart. Why are they so different? It's 100 percent the attitude towards the homeless. They don't tolerate them in Tiburon. When they occasionally show up across the bridge, a cop immediately picks them up and drives them right back across to the city.
New report just came out in California that most new homeless people are priced-out seniors and elderly people. As for the mentally I’ll, thank Reagan when he was governor for that, he massively slashed spending on mental facilities and many were just let out onto the streets
I was just in LA last week. Literally EVERY homeless person in the city is homeless for exactly 2 reasons, Schizophrenia and drug addiction. There is no exception to that rule.
The facts don't support your feelings. The LA Times said that 67 percent of the homeless population in LA is either drug addicted, mentally ill, or both. One major UCLA study said that it was actually as high as 84 percent. The reason we can't fix the problem is because people don't want to admit what's actually causing it.
Mr. Nosestein said it's the goyims fault and has nothing to do with usury? Well that settles it.
10 months ago
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>everything that disproves my beliefs is israeli propaganda reeeeeee
10 months ago
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Post your rat claw.
10 months ago
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Shut the frick up israelite
This, except for in July. You'd think an oil rich country like that would try to make their capital at least somewhat interesting.
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Kingston is objectively the biggest shithole. Although, a lot of the US are almost as bad. Nearly all of Portland is a fricking tent city at this point. Naples wins for Europe though, even Bucharest is nicer.
>Nearly all of Portland is a fricking tent city at this point.
The part that always gets me is the idiocy of town council & city planners not adapting to it. Instead of police raids stomping down the encampments & ejecting them to go frick up other parts of the city they might as well just give the squatters title and provide incentive to build a new neighbourhood
t.ontarian watched the same moronic dance play out here with municipal-level officials insisting our housing supply is enough when it clearly isnt.
10 months ago
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They could at the very least keep them allocated along and under I5 instead of letting them be in every single fricking part of town. Idk if anyone has flown into PDX lately but if you come east to west you'll fly over two or three miles of camps/burned out rvs straight along Marine Dr
10 months ago
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I like the portland hobos more than the people living the new soulless blackrock commieblocks. Portland is still top 5 nicest in the 50 biggest U.S cities.
10 months ago
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>t. blue hair
10 months ago
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I don't give a shit what anyone says, I love the PNW
10 months ago
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>everything i dont like is israelites reeeeeeeeeee
10 months ago
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>homeless people are crazy and addicted to drugs, which we determined after we found them being homeless >this means they were 100% addicted to drugs and crazy before they were homeless, too >there's absolutely nothing about being homeless that might lead a person to addiction or mental health issues, so we can safely conclude these problems predated their homelessness >i am very smart
You don't have a clue how statistics works. This is literally a survivorship bias to the T.
> I was just in LA last week. Literally EVERY homeless person in the city is homeless for exactly 2 reasons, Schizophrenia and drug addiction.
You are indeed objectively incorrect, as poster with facts above points out. But I just wanted to say that drug addiction isn’t really a major driver of homelessness; lots of homeless people only get strung out after they’ve been out on the streets. It certainly doesn’t help any, but many of your crazy junkie homeless people and crazy shit-your-pants alcoholic homeless people started out just crazy. And all of the above categories of unhoused folks are outnumbered by people who are just extremely fricking poor and unlucky.
Samfeag. Rather than replying to yourself, why not post a source?
Here's the reality. The overwhelming majority of homelessness in LA is caused by drug addiction and mental illness. You won't read the UCLA study because you're lazy, but the largest homeless study ever was conducted in 2019 of 64,000 homeless people in LA.
Here were the key findings
78 percent of homeless people on the street in LA have mental health issues
75 percent of homeless people on the street in LA had substance abuse issues
African Americans make up 40 percent of the total homeless population in LA, but only 7 percent of the general population
Immigrants make up only 2 percent of the homeless population
Your data literally shows it's being homeless that makes them addicted and crazy. They almost certainly wind up crazy and addicted *after* they become homeless, not before. The fact that putting homeless people in shelters drastically reduces the rate of addiction and significantly reduces mental health issues proves that it's the homelessness causing the addiction and craziness, not the other way around.
Do you think having a home is more or less stable than being in a homeless shelter? Do you think rates of addiction and mental health issues would be lower in a home, in a homeless shelter, or being homeless? The data already answers part of that question for you.
You have no idea how statistics work, and also can't correctly interpret a graph.
10 months ago
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You're making up shit again without posting a source.
One of the common characteristics of schizophrenia is that people who have it refuse treatment and are non-compliant with their medication. One study showed that 80 percent of schizophrenics stopped taking their prescribed medication after 2 years.
A lot of homeless shelters won't accept people who are actively using drugs or alcohol. All you have to do is sober up for a day and you'd have a place to sleep. You can't help people who refuse to be treated. They wouldn't be homeless if they would accept help.
I know you aren't reading these because you don't want to accept the truth, but maybe someone else will find it interesting.
Yeah i spend my life trying to get our guys to go into crash beds or shelters. The no drinking rule is what kills it. They'd all rather be blackout in the rain at -2°c than in a bed sober but that's the way it goes.
A different issue is that they all say drugs are pushed in shelters so if they want to stay clean they won't go in. Sometimes that's a lie as I've been told that by guys I've literally just given needles to but welcome to the mind of a homeless guy. Some of the shelters we have do push shit though, a lot are run by criminal gangs and if you don't buy you lose your bed. Something they complain about too is that you can turn up to a hostel wired out of your fricking head on coke and get a bed but turn up after half a bottle of vodka and you're not getting in the door. So in a sense that encourages drug use. But frankly they just don't care that much for the rules and routines of shelters and any excuse is constructed after the fact. Most just like getting obliterated on a door step and sleeping when they want.
Bizarre to you or me as sometimes they're willing choosing barely survivable conditions.
Highly doubt that's true. I work for a homelessness charity (not US though) and we're notorious for pumping out bullshit in news articles in order to wring funding out of morons. Had an article out at christmas that gave numbers that only made sense if literally a quarter of our city was homeless. The old people line was probably talking about people moving back in with their children.
>Turkey and Egypt
I unapologetically love Istanbul; there are few big cities anywhere on earth that can match its multilayered history. I’m also a big fan of a lot of the historical/archaeological sites there—Ephesus, Hieropolis, Göbekli Tepe, Mt. Nemrut, lots more. And I found the town of Selçuk very pleasant in its own right. In Egypt, it’s mostly about museums. But there’s some urban charm in Alexandria. Cairo is annoying in a lot of ways—traffic and smog are awful. But it’s not boring. >San Francisco Problems
See above (
>muh techbros are the reason san fran has a world class problem with feces on the streets
Never suggested anything of the sort. I meant that techbros and their lords and masters and the local pols who bend over backwards to accommodate them are a worse problem for SF than the homeless epidemic, drugs and shit in the streets and all (and there are still plenty of streets that have never been beshat and never will be, incidentally—homelessness and fentanyl and all that are undeniably awful but not truly omnipresent).
Tech money has exacerbated the homeless problem by driving up rents even higher and making housing the homeless inside city limits less and less realistic. But worse than that, the last few tech booms have driven out many of the creative and interesting people who made San Francisco a cool place to live. Tech kids pay the outlandish rents, maybe eat at some of the restaurants (although they’re more likely to make somebody broke deliver it), but they don’t contribute to or support local culture in meaningful ways. They do all their shopping online, so interesting local businesses die. They neither make art nor pay to look at, listen to, or watch it, so cultural offerings wither. They buy million-dollar glass box condos in former nightlife-rich neighborhoods and whine about noise, so music venues are wiped out.
And because SF politicians have spent decades now kissing big tech’s ass with tax advantages and other corporate welfare/handouts, the tech plutocrats have raked in more and more money to hide overseas while robbing the city of what could have been billions of dollars in tax and other revenues. So San Francisco becomes simultaneously more sterile and seedier.
Seems like the present economic downturn and techbro emigration might actually have a small corrective influence on this blight. But a lot of what used to be wonderful about SF is deeply rotten and may never recover. I’ll concede that
>Why do people bother posting these things? >But I still don’t get why people who supposedly like to travel want to spend time on the internet whining about places they don’t enjoy. Just get over it and go somewhere else.
And then proceeds to write the longest post in the entire thread about the shitty places he's been. It's actually incredible to witness how far someones head can actually get into their own rectum
>But I still don’t get why people who supposedly like to travel want to spend time on the internet whining about places they don’t enjoy. Just get over it and go somewhere else.
I can say the same about you, who also likes to "spend time on the internet whining" since you knowingly come into a thread about a topic you didn't like, and proceed to write the equivalent of an organic spaghetti squash fart sniffing blog. >Why do people bother posting these things?
>I'm *from* San fricking Francisco
Frick TERFs! #Resist #PunchANazi
>The worst hellholes I have ever personally visited have been empty, hollow commerce machines, fueled either by tourism or by other quasi-extractive industries. These include but are not limited to Las Vegas, Dubai, lots of the Caribbean, and at least half of Florida. Pattaya, the worst beach in Thailand and the ugliest town in a still-beautiful country, where the most vulgar underbelly of tourists get to pretend they’re normal. Cruise ship ports and resort towns catering to alcoholic British people fall pretty low on my personal list as well. Anywhere with a Señor Frog’s emporium. Kuşadası, Turkey, followed by Antalya, are the worst towns in a country with great richness, historical interest and beauty. Sharm El Sheikh, in Egypt is depressing, but a surprisingly good place to practice German. I don’t have a lot of time for the Algarve or for the Costa del Sol in Spain, but there’s still some charm obscured by the pub crawls.
Ironically, you are being classist and scoffing from your ivory tower in the Mission district for $7900/month rent. Cheap resorts that working class people go to because they can't afford to "go off the beaten track" and be a Real™ traveler like yourself who goes wine tasting in Baja on the weekends because you're *so* different and *so* travelled, right? Piece of shit.
>Ironically, you are being classist and scoffing from your ivory tower in the Mission district for $7900/month rent. Cheap resorts that working class people go to because they can't afford to "go off the beaten track" and be a Real™ traveler like yourself who goes wine tasting in Baja on the weekends because you're *so* different and *so* travelled, right? Piece of shit.
Resorts aren't traveling. You may as well just stay in your own country if that is the kind of vacation you are doing. It is beyond moronic to visit a foreign country and barely or never interact with any local business, restaurant or attend any cultural event because you either cheap, lazy or uncultured and want an all inclusive and hermetic experience.
Based anon. I went to San Francisco on a business trip and expected a hellhole full of homeless people and needles everywhere. Didn’t have a single problem the entire time no walked around a bit. Saw a couple homeless people from far away but nothing bad at all. The worst problems of the city are the tech bros inflating
prices everywhere and literally clogging the streets with driverless cars. I saw it firsthand. I’ll give Florida a chance eventually but it seems like a soulless place full of boomers strip malls and gated communities
> "hey the heckin' slums are vibrant and authentic. What I really hate are white tourists! Isn't it the worst when a brit drinks and sings? Oh sorry Onkonkwe, please have my wallet and linea dentata!"
a few..
San antonio, TX.
North Las vegas, NV.
Jakarta, Indonesia just for the insufferable weather
Gisbourne, NZ. reminded me too much of south texas.. just that special kind of run down.
NYC just for pure human misery though.
Houston, TX
Jesus fricking Christ the fact that nobody has mentioned this town yet speaks volumes. This is the 4th largest city in America and it Should not exist. The whole thing was built on a swamp so it floods every time it fricking rains. Speaking of weather, do you like sweating? We’ll come to Houston! It’s 90 fricking degrees 10 months of the year. But that’s not all, it’s ungodly humid here. Remember that part about being built on a swamp? Yeah, heat + humidity means RIP your ass crack. Now let’s talk about the city proper. The whole place is full of urban sprawl. Everything is so far away that you NEED a car here to live. You can drive for 1 hour in any direction and still be in Houston. LA might have the 405, but goddamit Houston has the worst fricking traffic of any city I’ve ever been to in America. Also the worst air quality in America. East Houston is full of chemical plants and oil refineries. Every once in a while one of them explodes, dumping a bunch of toxic chemicals in the air. But they bring in ~~*jobs*~~ so local government just ignores it and let’s them do whatever they want. But you want to know the absolute worst thing about Houston? What makes this city truly terrible?
The people
Houston is full of obese Mexicans who act like such buttholes all the time. The only people here who speak English are the obese Black folk who think they have some kind of “culture”. Nah sorry Houston “culture” is just a bunch of fat Black folk drinking cough syrup and playing records at 0.5x speed. There’s barely any white people left here, and they’re all either $0Y boys or migagays. This city was built with dirty oil money, and all the rich people here work for the oil industry. Houston has a long history of dirty deeds, from the bush family (yes that one) to Enron to the fricking Astros cheating scandal.
And yet despite all this, Houston somehow has this weird little brother complex about Dallas. Frick this goddamn town. Just nuke us already.
It’s pretty shit with all the poverty, homelessness, street children, rampant littering, shitty roads, shanties all over the place, pollution, noisy smoke-belching jeepneys and traffic jams all day long. I can understand his opinion.
But from my own experience it’s hardly the worst.
Dhaka was a hellhole. Lots of fun though. Beautiful surroundings even with all the unchecked development. I've crawled through shitholes all over Africa and Asia and this was the first place I've truly felt unsafe walking around at night. Morning of my flight I had to wade through waist-high flooded streets to get to the airport and ended up with dysentery. Also got the worst haircut of my life there.
Isn't it one of the greatest concentrations of wealth in Africa though? Must be some nice parts.
I had a roommate when I was in the Navy who was originally from Bangladesh. I was a naive 20-something who wanted to see the world and asked him the nicest place to visit in the country. He told me, "the airport" with a straight face. Apparently people will do truly desperate things just to get the frick out of Bangladesh
It's a toss up between Sarnia or London Ontario, Canada. Living or being anywhere near these dumps was the lowest point in my life. Two ugly cities with weirdo, creeps and idiots around every corner.
An Industrial town in Eastern Europe and China during winter is the most depressing thing you can experience.
Skid Row was as someone here put it already a zombie apocalypse, but not sure if it would be fair to mention it since there's some parts of LA that have the most beautiful neighborhoods I've ever see in my life.
I come from a poor part of the UK known for it's poverty, drug abuse, alcoholism and general urban decay so I thought I knew about shiteholes but holy frick absolutely nothing prepared me for the Philippines.
Gotta plug for the Shit parts of Philly like kensington and whatnot. Saw more concentrated misery and madness than anywhere else I've been on earth. Like some Warhammer 40k hive/judge dread level urban hellscape shit.
Mojave, CA was legitimately depressing to be in, as soon as you cross into Kern County from LA County, it changes real quick. Nothing going on there except drug abuse
There were a few bus stops in northern Romania that were like a time warp to 1980s Eastern Europe. Really desolate gray and depressing
san francisco was shit
my experience was great because I was paying out the ass on business but just around every corner was homelessness or a token degenerate homosexual or two
I was born and raised in Philly and now live out west, anyone who is putting a west coast city here is moronic. My answer would be St Louis, other than Philly it's the only place I've ever actually been scared for my life.
Melbourne, Australia during the gay marriage referendum. Everything was covered in rainbows with a big "YES" over the top like it was Mussolini's Italy, people were running around with no pants on yelling at those that gave dirty glances with "It's okay to be gay" making a big scene, children in kindergarten were reciting that love is love, every nightclub had gay day and everyone was basically forced to be on drugs. It just didn't feel right. The whole place had a demonic aura about it, and while I've been to some really impoverished shitholes in South East Asia where people live in open pit sewers and the children run around naked because they simply cannot afford pants this poverty was just depressing and didn't give Satanic vibes.
My first shithole was Manila and I thought it was really bad then, but after having visited India, Egypt and some US cities, it’s actually not that bad at all anymore.
Maybe I was in a shit part, but Niagara Falls (the city) felt really rough to me. Drove up to see the falls and stay a night there. Maybe I should've stayed in Buffalo.
Nah, that's Niagara Falls in general. The US side is hood as frick and the Canadian side is a dump too, just a tacky tourist trap. The actual falls and the visitors center are nice tho.
Nah, that's Niagara Falls in general. The US side is hood as frick and the Canadian side is a dump too, just a tacky tourist trap. The actual falls and the visitors center are nice tho.
. Niagara-on-the-Lake (Ontario) and Lewiston (New York) are much better towns to spend time in after you've visited the falls.
I got banned from R*ddit the other day because this guy from the US was asking about Br*dford, asking if it’s a nice place to live since he had a job offer there.
I told him plainly, if you want to live somewhere that’s culturally Pakistani, where most of your neighbours are completely and utterly uninterested in confirming to wider society, where most women walk around in burkas and there’s a mosque around every corner, that’s fine but I don’t recommend it.
Got maybe 10 PMs calling me a filthy racist Islamophobe kek. It’s truly a sorry state of affairs when simply not wanting to live in a backwards, weird foreign Islamic culture makes you incompatible with modern English society
Panama City. I don't know what I expected, I thought it was going to be somewhat developed from the shipping industry but oh was I wrong.
It's worse than any SEA city I've been to.
Gary Indiana for sure. Flint Michigan was pretty rough too. Spent a decent amount of time in Detroit ghettos, it's fricked up but I think still has a lot of character so I like it.
luton, tijuana
>low quality /misc/ bait garbage thread
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but "it" passes as an ugly 50 year old women, this is fake
Kutaisi at late winter. Grey snow everywhere, everyone looks dodgy as frick and the city center is completely dilapidated. Only stayed for one night and was starting to question what sort of a shithole I've wandered into by coming to Georgia for six weeks. Ended up going to Tbilisi and had a completely different impression. Generally liked it. It probably isn't all that bad, I was there at the worst time when snows are melting and everything looks grey and gross. That said I did get a feeling people in Kutaisi were a lot poorer than Tbilisi and it felt dodgier.
Tbilisi, but Georgia in general is the worst place I’ve ever been. Of course, I haven’t been to Africa. So
Some shit happens in that city, I can't even talk about it, heavy shit.
Story time fricker
they eat people
I thought Tbilisi was fine. Some parts of Georgia look extremely run down, but people are rarely a threat. I was walking from a monastery near Tbilisi and some guys were driving down the road and shooting pistols. Pretty sure he had aimed at me but obviously they didn't shoot me. I thought that was sketchy as shit. I took a shortcut through bushes afterwards. I'm nearly sure I could hear them drive back to where they last saw me. Frick knows what they wanted. Only really dangerous encounter of that sort that I've ever had.
Kuwait City in the middle of June
This, except for in July. You'd think an oil rich country like that would try to make their capital at least somewhat interesting.
Kingston is objectively the biggest shithole. Although, a lot of the US are almost as bad. Nearly all of Portland is a fricking tent city at this point. Naples wins for Europe though, even Bucharest is nicer.
your mother's c**t after birthing you
Cebu, Philippines was sort of depressing. Lots of human misery.
But did you coom?
>Lots of human misery.
But thats where you source the best value creampies
Los Angeles.
T. Californian
I mean san fran that place is a satan's butthole.
I've got to go to a wedding in San Francisco this September. If the person who invited my wasn't a childhood friend and his family were close family friends, there would be 0% chance I'd be going. Even though I'm going to be there less than 28 hours, I have zero intention of going outside the hotel, wedding venue and airport.
What part of SF?
SF isn't even that bad outside of like a 5 block stretch of hell. The rest is pretty normal
dude don't have this mentality and try and have a good time. seriously, the bay area is one of the wealthiest places in the world, there is so much to see and do, just go and have a positive mentality and I know for a fact you'll have a blast
I skipped an old friend’s wedding in LA. Thanks for reminding me that I am a jerk.
You're the biggest pussy ever and probably don't actually travel anywhere.
I had a friend like you who always whined about everything. He couldn't even have fun or be at ease at the nicest places. Kys
Imagine being afraid to walk around in a city that looks like this. In a city full of homos, you're the biggest gay of them all.
Nah, outside of the Tenderloin, Nob Hill, and Mission the city is actually really nice. It's a night and day difference between the downtown area and the other side of the tunnel to Chinatown.
>What's the biggest hellhole youve been to?
Tijuana
you guys have no clue what the rest of the country is like
^will second this
>so glad I rented a car with unlimited miles on it and put over 1k miles on it just to get as far away from Hollywood as possible
literal shithole
You can't go into LA on a $20/day budget like some European backpacker and have a genuine LA experience. Fun shit in LA is going to cost money. You walk down Hollywood boulevard and you say "Wow, that a dump!" And you'd be right to think to that. But staying in the W, drinking wienertails at a rooftop bar and eating sushi at Nobu would change your perspective. Last time I was in LA 2 weeks ago, I did a 3 hour wine tasting at a rooftop bar. I dare you to have a bad time 50 floors above Hollywood Blvd drinking wine with a bunch of smoking hot milfs.
Did you go home with one though?
Conservative Californians like to shit on these cities because cuckservatives have no power in the state. There are infinitely worse places even within California
Im a liberal democrat and LA and Sanfran are shitholes what are you on about. Your a homosexual for being allowing our party to do nothing for the people instead they have you by the nuts because of idpol. WW3 needs to come soone rather than later so real democrats can take back the country and all you phonies can get drone bombed in a ditch.
>LA
Same.
I'm from the bay area so I'm used to it but holy shit, when I visited LA a few months ago it's like the Mexican boarder moved up a hundred miles or so.
Toronto
The weather of siberia, the buttholes of NYC, with an insufferable refusal to change
London Ontario
I actually liked Toronto a lot, but I went during summer.
Youngstown
I've been a lot of places.
I'm thinking some areas of Memphis or Philly for sure.
Flint is so bad that it’s funny
I’m trying to think of some story or detail that would encapsulate what being in Flint feels like. But there’s honestly too many. I guess getting harassed by a crackhead in a Coney Island drive thru until the restaurant called the police. It seems like the sky is always grey there. There are huge filters on every faucet or drinking fountain in the city to try to give you peace of mind. You can hear gunshots every night. I’m talking about the good parts of the city right now. The north side mine as well be a scene from Apocalypse Now. It’s like another dimension. It’s like living through the fall of the Soviet Union except ten times worse. Hopeless and bleak vibes on a mass scale. Driving on Dort Highway is like taking a trip through Hell itself.
Amazing restaurants though
>55% African American
That's all you have to say, sadly. There isn't a nice place in America that is majority black.
>There isn't a nice place in America that is majority black.
Earth. There isn't a nice place on earth that is majority black, or even around 20% black.
>There isn't a nice place on earth that is majority black
This is like saying "there isn't a place in the ocean that's dry"
That isn't true is it?
What about Capo Verde?
There are plenty of islands which are majority black and actually really nice
>Capo Verde
>Black
Since you want to get pedantic about it, then take a look at the likes of Rwanda, Namibia and Gabon.
Western NC
Everyone on benefits, teeth falling out, shitshacks with ceilings caving in, fast food everywhere, everyone goes to weirdo evangelical church but cheats on each other, drugs drugs drugs. Oddly enough the liberals in Asheville were the best adjusted ppl.
Asheville is full of vile buttholes. At least western NC is beautiful though.
Soacha Bogota or the Santa Fee Drug Zone.
It was bad in the 2000's but the Venezuelans turned it into an active trash fire.
Ashville has the ugliest hoes in the Carolinas (Worse than Portland) and the homeless are NYC level annoying. I never understood why it gets defended so much lol
>Soacha or the Santa Fee Drug Zone
I'm from Bogota and I would never go there even if they paid me, what the hell were you searching lol
>Oddly enough the liberals in Asheville were the best adjusted ppl.
So it's just like every other place in the US then?
Granville Street, Vancouver
Really? You’re a pussy that is nothing compared to the worst shit in Vancouver
why dont you morons just round up the homeless and crack addicts and throw them in camps like in normal countries?
canada would be great except for that shit
Because the government and social order is israeli anarchotyrrany. Every few years somebody starts serial killing junkies and then a coordinated multi agency manhunt begins that spends 10+ million dollars to capture a single person taking the garbage out.
It is trivially easy to round them up and deal with them. The problem is that the government wants the junkies and homeless sprawn present since it means more funding and more programs and more ngo mores charities.
Canada would still be a dump you idiot
The ~~*elites*~~ want the homeless around to remind the proles where they will be if they step out of line.
Even if canada was genuinely the most functional, livable place on earth plenty of perfectly normal people would be looking to leave just to escape our godforsaken weather
>like in normal countries
What country does this exactly? I don’t even disagree with the idea because there needs to be a radical solution towards this.
Canada is a holding bin for degenerates and is proud of this fact. They hand out free drugs and already decriminalized hard drugs in BC.
Singapore just kills all of them and it works.
Really? If that shocked you that much you'll go catatonic when you find out about East Hastings.
>Granville Street, Vancouver
Wish I could just unbox you in a Brazillian favela.
Just because Brazil is a shithole doesn't mean Canada isn't you fricking moron. God Canadians are so stupid and annoying. And it manifests everywhere in canadian life. You freaks just cant help but be a moronic butthole
Iraq in 2006 as a zogbot
Tijuana, by far
then
Memphis
St Louis
Fresno
Oklahoma City
I heard OKC had made some strides to being a run of the mill boring city and isn't really a total shit hole these days.
It’s still in the middle of a barren wasteland
Van Street, Karachi
You cant tell which parts of the massive concrete structures are inhabited and which ones arent. Worst nastiest businessmen, travelers, etc in the country all in one place. A very creepy place
>You cant tell which parts of the massive concrete structures are inhabited and which ones arent.
What does this mean
>Slightly different because it was beautiful surroundings, but northern thailand hill tribes made me really sad. It's basically the human equivalent of the tiger temples and a pretty sad existence.
What does this mean
All black areas are basically the same, if a city is 20% black it will be 20% hell and if it is somewhere like Camden that is 100%, it will be 100% hell. The only meaningful difference in cities is in the demographics.
unironically kys
SF Bay Area
San Fran has like 3 bad streets in the Tenderloin. Most of the city is great.
this
Californians are moronicly out of touch and LA is one of the nicest cities in this shit country. The bay area has kind of gone to shit lately though, still very nice but has some shit parts
>The bay area has kind of gone to shit lately
>lately
It has been shit since the 1980s
I’ll grant you that Californians are out of touch but you’re mentally challenged if you think Los Angeles is one of the “nicer” cities in this country. There is only one city in this country that remotely qualifies as “nice” and it’s Boston. The rest are just relatively nicer or not, but as for Los Angeles, it’s not even near the threshold.
Colorado Springs mogs Boston, especially if you love mountains and sunshine. Boston has some of the most disgusting weather in America.
Certain regions of the California coast, including some areas within the LA city limits, mog every other region in the USA for desirability.
im from the bay area abd maybe ive become dulled to the visual deterioration, but crime is way down from when i was a kid. thwre has always been tweakers but now it looks really bad since they allow them ti build favelas aka cracktents
worst i have seen is a tie between las vegas and desert hot springs
las vegas is full of tweakers sitting in the sun all day baking on the sidewalk doing nothing, amd then if you leave the strip it is just walls
of sidewalks and sound walls blasting heat on you, no shade. its the epitome of indoor ac house to ac car city
desert hot springs ca is just full of so many fricking tweakers just zombining around in the sun, but the infastructure is a little more forgiving on the pedestrian out there.
south east alberquerque was littered in needles and thorns and everyone i encoubtwred there was very violent. i hung out with some locals and all they talked about was bar fights and beating their gf's
im trying to think what city had the worst infastructure and old stripped cars laying around and broken glass and most evidence of crime. new orleans? idk, that place was chill. i would see a cop every three minutes in texas and a cop every three days in new orleans
i hung out with some locals and all they talked about was bar fights and beating their gf's
Did you partaketh in the local customs
Egypt, around 2004 or so, before the revolution that occured at that time. Hot, dirty, barren, full of people that tried to rip you off, zero hygiene regarding food preparation, zero hygiene regarding toilets availible at tourist sites, literally nothing to do outside of extremely tourist focused tourist activities
>Egypt
The only place I know with a tipping "culture" worse than the US.
BTW they are currently "fixing" the garbage on the shores of the nile problem by putting concrete on the shores so the garbage slides in and is washed away.
Cities basically look like your typical FPS shooter map with added garbage. No building going on, just buildings not being finished the default.
It's fairly safe so not really a hellhole, but visually it's creating a high-rise slum impression.
>towers in the distance
This ArmA map looks dope
>fairly safe
doubt. Cairo is the delhi of the middle east
Wouldn't it make more sense to pour concrete over the garbage?
Did you use the pig toilet?
Philadelphia. Is pretty shit, especially under the train on Frankford ave. But you can just cross the bridge into New Jersey to see it instantly get 10x worse. Camden, NJ is easily Hell on Earth.
statistically speaking Camden may very well have the highest murder rate in the entire country and it often gets overlooked because it has less than 100k people
Paris Gare du Nord. Not sure if I caught it on a bad day, but having come from London King's Cross through the tunnel and then that's your first impression of France and Paris. Not good.
Disorganised, lazy staff. Terrible layout and crowd management. Then you exit into the main station hall and it's filled with 3rd world morons and gypsies. Just on the walk to the exit we saw two people having bags and phones snatched by (probably Romanian) distraction gangs.
Beyond that, Cairo as mentioned, is typical of what happens when low IQ people are allowed to breed and choose to abort girls.
Slightly different because it was beautiful surroundings, but northern thailand hill tribes made me really sad. It's basically the human equivalent of the tiger temples and a pretty sad existence.
>human equivalent of the tiger temples
lmao such a grim description
tiger temples?
Pine Bluff, Arkansas was ridiculously shitty
mah homie. most people don't even know about this steaming pile of shit but it certainly is up there, for America and a competitor for the developed world.
Birmingham, UK
birmingham is only scary when it gets dark and all the homeless crack addicts start hassling you for money.
wolverhampton is infinitely worse.
Cardiff
In Wales? Have you been to Newport? 10x worse.
Phnom penh, cambodia
Hell on earth
Y tho? Elaborate
Filthy, fricked up, desperate people everywhere, severe wealth inequality on display everywhere, violent even in the bar districts with girls fighting each other over customers, rampant drug use, rampant teen prostitution, homeless everywhere. All the expats are drug addicts or fricked up somehow. It's mostly lawless and police are just another gang. Polluted and landlocked, absolutely desperate shithole of a city.
Nah, been there times and I had a great time there. Of course I had a middle class, educated Khmer gf that did everything for me, saved me skin tax etc, so my experience was probably different than most.
Parts of LA, Portland or Vancouver DTES are worse than Phnom Penh you b***h lmao
East Hastings spread to the rest of downtown during covid. It's one big hellhole now with crackheads hassling people on every street corner.
Colombo isn’t that bad but I hate it. The excessive police/military presence, the thieves, the scammers, and the staring poos. Loved the rest of the country. Parts of Jakarta and Siem Reap are also hellholes away from the expats/tourists. Rural Armenia is also shit, way worse than Kutaisi imo. Never been to truly awful places though (war zones or Africa)
Colombo was my least favorite part of Sri Lanka. Kandy, Galle, and even Batticaloa had more charm in spades compared to Colombo
Portland, at night.
Philadelphia.
And I've been to a bunch of latam capitals, NOLA, Memphis, DC, Chicago, europe... The difference between somewhere like CDMX and Philadelphia is the touristic parts of CDMX felt fine and it only got sketchy when you went away into the dregs of the city itself. The best parts of Philly felt sketchy as hell and outside of that was like fricking favela.
The area around city hall, Center City, is quite nice. Old City is also nice during the day. And about a mile south into South Philly is also pretty good. Nobody's gettinq mugged in Rittenhouse Square.
But yeah, the rest of the city has really gone to shit. In 2000 I lived in Tacony, which was a nice, cozy, safe neighborhood in the Northeast where kids could safely play on the street. Today, Tacony is a shithole and indistinguishable from the average North Philly ghetto. Things got really bad with the new soft-on-crime district attorney in 2017.
I guarantee you that there have been mugging a in Rittenhouse Square this year. Philadelphians like to cope by saying “oh, center city is nice” and it is nice aesthetically, but there are still homeless, nutcases, and basketball-americans looking to do things as the result of purely socioeconomic factors everywhere. Rittenhouse Square is no exception to that. I can admit, however, that maybe nobody has been shot there this year.
Also, the guys not soft-on-crime, he rewards criminals and persecutes cops. He’s probably the single most activist leftist district attorney in this country.
Went to Phnom Penh in 2006 and would request tuk tuk drivers to take me somewhere I could drink out of the city and ended up in some really depressing semi rural areas that domalia puts to shame
Yeah, this. And the rural areas are even worse---lower than Africa-tier because at least in Africa, the people seem somewhat happy. It's pretty bizarre that once you cross the border from Thailand, the whole vibe and atmosphere abruptly shifts. Khmer are the Haitians of Asia, and they'll never, ever tire of blaming the Thais and Viets for all their woes, when in reality, they're just a bunch of subhuman-IQ human shitstains.
Is it actually safe to travel there alone? I've been thinking about going
It’s not dangerous, but don’t walk around alone at night in PP because there are shitbags around who won’t hesitate to shoot you if you don’t hand your shit over. Also, resist the idea of renting a scooter to travel around the city. The people drive like idiots, and if you do get in an accident, even if it’s not your fault, the logic there goes—-“This is my country, you shouldn’t be here. Therefore if you weren’t here, this never would have happened. So, it’s your fault. Now fricking pay me.” and if you don’t and a crowd builds up, fricking run.
I wonder how much better it's gotten since I went there. I'm in Vietnam now and I'm always very tempted to head over there again for a week but I worry I'll just be disappointed again.
Pic related is very relevant
What is SighSee's obsession with IQ?
IQ is designed to measure how one would perform in an academic setting. Its literally how good of a human calculator are you.
Its not some magic measure of intelligence
You can have IQ and still be bad academically. See autists
One more reason its a useless measure
you can measure IQ just using reaction time
Baltimore, MD. Outside of the downtown core around the harbor and the stadiums, it was pretty miserable. There were entire blocks where every house was either abandoned or should be.
I lived in Baltimore for 4 years while I was in college at Towson. Baltimore has some of the worst neighborhoods you will ever see in the US. But there are neighborhoods around the city that are white, fairly safe and have an awesome bar scene. Canton, Federal Hill, The Inner Harbor and Federal Hill are all good areas. I met my wife in Federal Hill. The bar scene there is all white and middle class 20-30 year old's. I never had a problem in any of those areas in the 4 years I lived there.
I did have issues where I lived on North Howard Street. My car was broken into 5 times in 4 years. Someone was shot and killed in front of my house. The men's sober living house next door to me burned down to the ground one night when some addict left a cigarette burning and fell asleep. I road the bus to Towson a couple times because parking on campus was so bad. It was the worst bus route in the city. I stopped taking the bus after a fight broke out and some threats were made. I graduated and moved out of the city right before the Freddie Gray riots in 2015. Would I ever move back? Hell no. Would I visit and go to an O's game and a pub crawl afterwards in Fed Hill? Hells yes.
I got turned around in Baltimore and ended up walking north of Fells Point about two blocks. I knew I had fricked up when the overwhelming scent of piss and sight of broken glass was in front of me. This skinny black lady (definitely on the market, if you know what I mean) said something like, "Oh white boy you ain't wanna be around here." So I told her where I was trying to go and she walked with me back to the outer edge of Fells Point and said, "I don't know where it is but it ain't up there" then left. Such a weird night
That's story rings very true of Baltimore.
When I lived there in 2014, you could go to a $10 All You Can Drink in Federal Hill at Nobles that lasted 3 hours. It included rail shots, beer, or any rail liquor. It was the same crowd every week. We all kept it secret. People would get absolutely obliterated. It was a crazy party every week. That place still does $3 domestic cans every day all day. There is almost nowhere in the US where you can drink cheaper than Baltimore with a white crowd of 20 year olds. It really is a fun city. But don't take a wrong turn and end up in the wrong hood.
They still have those bars elsewhere. Theres one in manila called "Long Bar" three hours all you can drink for $15
Are you talking about the fricking Philippines? Or is that some area in Maryland I'm not familiar with?
Yeah. Just saying those types of bars arent dead.
There's on I go to in Shibuya that's ¥1,000 for 1 hour. I would have guessed the Philippines would be cheaper.
Philippines is about half the US cost. The Philippine one is 3 hours with a "chefs plate" of bar food for $20
She saved your neck it seems.
>Canton, Federal Hill, The Inner Harbor and Federal Hill are all good areas.
Based. I lived and worked in Mt. Vernon for a couple years and it wasn't too bad. You just had to know where to go and stay in your lane. I also left right after the Freddie Gray riots cause the writing was on the wall for that city.
Kind of a bummer, cause I liked some of the architecture and history.
Why did Baltimore become a shithole?
With the other major American shitholes, the reason for their decline (or eternal shittiness) is pretty obvious
But Baltimore was never rust belt, was never a significant center of slave trade, nothing like that.
It's a eastern seaboard city in a relatively wealthy state just like New York, Boston, Philly, etc.
The hell happened to Baltimore to make it probably America's biggest shithole?
Not to sound racist, but the answer is black people and drugs. Maryland has created a perpetual welfare system where black women are encouraged to have as many children as they can to receive a larger welfare check. The kids run wild in the city with zero supervision. The democrats promise them more money and the cycle continues getting progressively worse every year.
Forced sterilization for violent felons, mandatory abortions for unwed mothers and work for welfare programs would cure the problem in 10 years. We aren't ready to accept that truth yet as a society.
Okay, but that's true of a lot of places
What's different about Baltimore that's made it so awful?
If you make a list of 50 cities in the US with the highest percentages of African Americans, you also made a list of the 50 most violent cities in the US. It's a perfect 1/1 list just in a slightly different order. .
This is neither true nor answering my question
Baltimore is not the blackest city in America
Go home, stormgay election tourist
Of the 20 cities in the US with the highest population of black people, literally every one appears in the list of the top 50 most violent cities in the US. If you have different information, I would be happy to look through it.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_U.S._cities_with_large_Black_populations
https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us
I only had to make it to #2 on that list to prove that no, Jackson is not on your list of the top 50 most violent cities in the US
This of course in of itself is fricking moronic, because as anyone familiar with the city well knows, Jackson is an absolute shithole and is absolutely a great example to support your argument.
In short, this just means that your sources are moronic and you didn't even bother looking at them.
It's not even so much your argument is wrong as it is that your very existence is wrong and we would all have been better off if your mother had aborted you, because we are all dumber for having ever interacted with you.
You have to click on the chart and arrange it by black population. Try comparing it now professor doofus.
Great job
Chicago is also not on that list of most dangerous cities in the US
Chicago has the most murders of any city in the US (695 in 2022). And the largest number of blacks (845,000). This is not a coincidence.
Madrid Spain has a million more people than Chicago, 3.23 million vs 2.67 million in Chicago. Madrid had 22 murders in 2022. If you want to visit a nice place in the US, go to where the blacks aren't.
I don't argue that Chicago isn't more dangerous than Madrid
I argue that the poster I'm replying to is a fricking moron who didn't even look at his sources before he posted them, and that his crackhead mother would weep in shame at his existence if she wasn't constantly too fricking high to know what's going on
I looked through the links. Even If 17 of the 20 most violent cities in the US also happen to be the cities with the most blacks, I'd say he was correct in pointing out the correlation between blacks and violent crime. That's pretty shocking.
There are a bunch of rich and well off black people in the DC and Baltimore suburbs
I’m this anon
In some areas of Baltimore there are now posters and billboards advertising free IUDs to black women, picrel. It’s funny how transparent the whole effort is but there’s no way it’ll work
>city is prosperous
>good times create weak men, etc
>city raises taxes
>uses that for welfare programs
>this attracts non-workers who want to live off welfare
>cheapest neighbourhoods start to go down the drain
>mostly white workforce starts to move away
>the cheap neighborhood is now a ghetto
>crime skyrockets, sending the rest of the work force away
>city no longer has enough of a tax base to support its programs
>elections come up
>Republican candidate promises to cut spending. Democrat candidate promises no cuts
>the people on welfare vote Democrat 99% of the time, ensuring no Republican ever gets elected in the city
>and no welfare cuts happen
>city cuts spending in other areas like police and transportation instead
>crime goes even higher and urban blight spreads
>city tries to squeeze workers and companies even harder for tax money
>even more workers leave
>the cycle continues until you get Baltimore/Camden/Detroit
And the same exact thing did happen to Philadelphia. Its in the later stages, but Philly is in a way worse state than it was 20 years ago, and it is heading downwards. It is in its early stages in South Boston. Boston also has weird borders, so all the nicest areas are actually outside the city limits in another city called Cambridge. It didn't happen to NYC because they actually elected a tough on crime mayor a couple decades back to turn things around. NYC actually used to be a total shithole in the 80's.
Sure, but that's happened a lot of places. Philly, as you mentioned.
But Baltimore isn't just bad. It's far and away the worst.
What made Baltimore so much worse than, say, Philly?
Boston is already on the decline
Frick Wu, she's a braindead idiot
we're heading in the direction of seattle/new york/san fransisco at rapid speed
Boston has had democrat mayors for decades dafuq you on about, oh a “progressive” minority woman now runs the city, so all of a sudden Boston you pay attention to the mayor and the city will go to shit?
I wouldn't call her that bad.
is right to an extent. I don't like Wu because she's a grifter progressive who is obsessed with diversity hires, which I don't like in any city
NYC is just hovering on the edge of falling back into that 70s/80s abyss it just escaped in the Giuliani years though
Back in 2019 it was just nice enough that I could imagine being willing to live there if I had a high enough paying job. After 2020 I doubt it
Southern Ontario outside of Toronto is pretty bleak. Cant lie to yourself and pretend youre there for the TO big city amenities, but the people will still be gay and stupid, the COL/wages is lower, but still moronicly high compared to anywhere that isnt ontario
It always sucked, but its become an unfixable nightmare once the housing crisis toronto creates spills over into the next town over and the next and the next and so on
>Sarnia
Idk I actually kinda liked it. Little bit of a small town feel, the waterfront actually looks kinda kino (most ontario cities make you want to tear out your eyeballs from how ugly they are), and the border crossing is really convenient for shopping.
The road infrastructure is really good by ontario standards too since a lot of our economy is built around the transport trucks heading back & forth to michigan
Bullshit. All you doomers/end-is-nigh people are so played out. Crime has increased nationwide since the late 2010s, and NYC is nowhere near going back to that 80s/90s level of bad. You can’t really pin it all on Giuliani because how the hell did crime decrease in literally every major city and stare through the 90s, lazy Republican shilling, ignoring that tough on crime policies/war on drugs failed in the 80s
>Republicans introduce tough on crime and anti drug policies
>crime decreases nationwide
>Democrats say without evidence that those policies were failures and reverses them
>crime spikes in Democrat run cities
Really makes you think
>actually liking sarnia
you must not have been there long or met many people lmao. trust me the more you stay the more you hate it
I lived in Mount Vernon in 2021-2022 which was a weird time even for Baltimore because of COVID. Beautiful area but I never got used to the schizo layout of the city, I tried going on a walk once and took one wrong turn and found myself smack-dab in the middle of the ghetto. I didn’t see too much crime in my area but a few weeks after I moved out a woman got stabbed to death a few blocks from where I live
Pretty sure they made a TV show about that
Berlin, Germany
Frankfurt
Nuevo Laredo, but I haven’t been there since I was a kid. Bull fights were cool
Hotel Los Dos Laredos is still kinda cool. lots of cartel presence in nuevo laredo, state and local governments barely function, but I enjoyed 11 days there in spring 2021
Downtown Seattle
What a baby lmao. You saw a bum and got scared? Cry me a river.
I've been to several notable hellholes.
>unofficial settlement
>narcotown
>50% of residents are criminals from other cities
>armed drug addicts everywhere
>ngo's not allowed in
I've been to the gypsy, syrian, Russian and bengali version of this town. When people speak of the "black hole of Calcutta" that's what they were referring to.
wtf are you talking about
The US pussy prison.
My own apartment.
Probably Phnom Penh. Miserable dump. Ugly, polluted, run down, with not a spark of joy in the entire city. Except for the brothel district that's packed to the brim with 70 year old wrinkled sexpats. You can smell the poverty in the air.
Cairo is an absolute shithole too. Unreal amount of trash, absurd traffic, pollution, eternally and purposefully unfinished construction everywhere. Worst of all, it's full of Egyptians.
Out of Europe, probably Athens and Istanbul. I like both cities, even love the latter, but some of the districts are straight up godforsaken ghettos. Omonoia, Metaxourgos, Tarlabasi. Everything dead in the city center and a total shitshow.
Puerto Rico.
People joke about the US being a third world country, haha, it's so violent and gross, it's just like India. But Puerto Rico is seriously a 3rd world hell hole. Filthy, crime ridden, polluted, dangerous. If someone said, hey, do you want to vacation in Oakland or Puerto Rico? I'd pick Oakland. Because at least in Oakland I can escape by car.
LATAM island countries do tend to be massive shitholes outside of resort areas
Puerto Rico is the US
this, and also does crime even happen outside the capitol?
Jacksonville, Florida... Worst place I've ever been in the US or the world.
>Jacksonville, Florida
lmao what happened, did some guy frick your gf there?
It's bad but not that bad. Jax beach is decent
Did you just hang out on the Westside or something?
^this too Jacksonville is like Bun Central Fricking Station. they are everywhere you literally cannot escape them.
>San Francisco
Paris, London, and Toronto is getting pretty bad too
Probably Merida in Mexico, compared to the other places I visited in Mexico the place just felt super seedy and run-down. There were no restaurants besides American fastfood restaurants which was really weird too.
to this day, Santa Monica is still the most depressing place i've ever been to, and that was like 15 years ago before all the drugs and homelessness spilled out all over the city. I can't imagine how much worse it is nowadays
bro if santa monica is the most depressing place you've ever been to then you are a literal billionare that hasn't stepped foot outside of Malibu in your life
this is the most coddled, onions post in the thread so far, by FAR. it's honestly just such a fricking stupid thing to say. like why not south central, or watts? an actually shitty place?
Maybe anon was depressed because of the vast income inequality? The crazy and the homeless just steps away from the beach homes of multimillionaires.
if that was the case then surely downtown LA is more depressing? Santa Monica is by far the best managed part of Los Angeles, their homeless problem is minimal compared to Venice, and any of the homeless encampments along the coast absolutely pale in comparison to the endless squalor of skid row or south central
I was also shocked to see the vast income inequality my first time in LA. Seeing ultra-wealthy people drive by the poorest people alive is an experience that shocked me to my core as a kid. I remember thinking there must be something majorly wrong with the wealthy of LA to allow such suffering to exist around them. Now, idk...
Downtown is ok because security there for everything is super tight. The areas around DTLA like skid row and south central (obv) are fricking zombie apocalypse level though.
Santa Monica is alright because its not actually part of LA city so it doesn't suffer from the woke mind virus as bad as the city itself does, since it attracts successful and affluent voters. Venice is in LA though is which explains a lot. Long Beach is ok but suffers from the externalities of progressive politics too because of the very liberal population there compared to some of the cities around it.
Earth
True, what a dump
East Hastings, Vancouver & Chester, PA come to mind
UK
detroit or st louis
quite depressing places
why doesn't the US federal government sent in the army to simply destroy the blocks of the city that are totally abandoned, and just being used as crack dens?
>Thinking the US federal government actually wants to fix shit.
Federal government doesn't have that kind of power. It would be up to the states to decide.
They could and they should. There are whole neighborhoods in Baltimore that have been knocked down to build luxury apartments. Look up the Ritz Carlton residences in Federal Hill. They bribed our mayor Sheila Dixon at the time and gave her a penthouse suite for $40,000 so that the project would get approved. She ended up getting kicked out of office for stealing Wal-Mart giftcards that were supposed to go to homeless people.
East St Louis, IL is even worse.
>Charleroi, Belgium
What an utter dump, rusting abandoned factories and railway wagons everywhere, awful 60s apartments full of shitskins
>Paris, France.
Obvious reasons
>Itäkeskus, Finland.
Row upon row of misery-inducing 60s toilet-tile tower blocks, hordes of shrieking somalians everywhere
>Slough, England
Quite literally an Indian/Paki colony existing in the ruins of grim 1930s sprawl
>Carboneras, Spain
Concrete on top of concrete, everyone living there looks like they gave up on life 40 years ago, literally nothing to do apart from leave
>Obvious reasons
A beautiful city full of great architecture, art, history, food and beautiful women is the biggest hellhole you've been to? I genuinely hope you're trolling because you sound fricking moronic.
London has beautiful architecture, pubs, history, food and culture as well. Doesnt mean it's not also a SHITHOLE.
You're bit sheltered if you think either are a shithole, especially if you're just a tourist visiting. Speak to people IRL and most people will say they had a blast in either place, it's only really here where there are overly negative losers crying about seeing some bums while surrounded by nothing but beautiful architecture and loads of shit to do.
>You're bit sheltered if you think either are a shithole
I'm from London, I don't need to consult some uppity little dickhead on SighSee, thanks. Now frick off.
this thread is about the absolute worst place you have been to. if london is the worst place you have ever visited, then you are sheltered. no other way to describe it.
London was not in my list
You're absolutely sheltered. No tourist goes into some shithole neighborhoods where people stab each other over post codes. The London city center and everything it offers is top tier. You're a sour moron. I lived in Oxford and always had fun visiting London even if it takes at least an hour to drive through all the urban crawl with a bus.
>No tourist goes into some shithole neighborhoods where people stab each other over post codes.
bonus points when the tourist locations are like this, lolol
>No tourist goes into some shithole neighborhoods where people stab each other over post codes
Can you not read or something? I was born and raised in London. It's a shithole. Its funny that you're accusing others of being sheltered when you're clearly the sort of person who forms their opinions of cities based on the 3 tourists traps they saw and the airport lmao.
No one's talking about tourist traps. I'm saying no one is going to your Shitty Suburb 55#. There's no reason to. It's like thinking of Oxford in terms of mass made suburbs on its outskirts instead of all the historical colleges, schools, churches and museums. Are you a girl or simply British? How can you manage to be so passive aggressive even though you've been given full anonymity?
>No one's talking about tourist traps.
>Oh btw, that shitty city isn't shitty because it has le churches and le historical sites
Paris is a shithole even though it has Sacre-Couer and St. Germain boulevard. London is still a shithole (although to a lesser extent) even though it has Chancery Lane and the Guildhall. Why are you being such a whiny little b***h about it?
Paris is not a shithole at all. Get laid you moron.
>sperging out THIS much over somebody else's opinion
Utterly fricking sad
Paris mogs London so not even comparable
Paris is the worst city in Europe by a long shot. The small touristy parts are nice but take a step out and it’s nothing but rats and piss. Also French people, most arrogant c**ts you’ll ever meet.
I liked it. Loved the neighborhoods around the city center, the food, art, architecture and how nice it is to chill by Seine.
Probably helps I went with someone who actually speaks pretty good French, avoided really touristy shit and was there at low season. I don't blame French for not liking tourists; the average tourist is a braindead moron. To be honest people outside Paris are much nicer, especially down south. When I ate out I was at a bistro where me and my gf were the only foreigners. Not only was the price good but the food was also great.
would visit again easily/10
I speak fluent french and can confirm the french are the most unpleasant, arrogant people in europe.
Eastern Kentucky.
Rampant poverty, drug and alcohol abuse, and deteriorating infrastructure.
t. Central Kentuckian
India, most of it.
Probably Skopje in 2008. Not because it was particularly sketchy or anything but it was depressing as frick, nobody seemed to want to be there. Parts of Belgrade were also really fricking shit, especially the slum where they put all the gypsies although I never actually went in there, but most of that city was actually really lovely
Suburbs in Porto, it was full of homeless Brazilians
Newark, NJ. Specifically Penn Station
Why do people bother posting these things?
I’ve been to a lot of places, including some mostly unpleasant ones. I’m *from* San fricking Francisco, the city everyone here (and on many other swathes of the vile internet) loves to hate, and it’s never been as bad as its reputation. It’s struggling in a lot of ways, always has been, worse now in some relatively
new ways, but it’s also always been awesome. And the worst of it has nothing to do with homeless people or junkies or liberals or homosexuals, and more to do with libertarian-capitalist tech money. The engines that have driven San Francisco for decades now have more in common with SighSee (with a side of /misc/, albeit smarter and richer and less explicitly racist the low-achieving masses of that shithole) than with any other board.
The worst hellholes I have ever personally visited have been empty, hollow commerce machines, fueled either by tourism or by other quasi-extractive industries. These include but are not limited to Las Vegas, Dubai, lots of the Caribbean, and at least half of Florida. Pattaya, the worst beach in Thailand and the ugliest town in a still-beautiful country, where the most vulgar underbelly of tourists get to pretend they’re normal. Cruise ship ports and resort towns catering to alcoholic British people fall pretty low on my personal list as well. Anywhere with a Señor Frog’s emporium. Kuşadası, Turkey, followed by Antalya, are the worst towns in a country with great richness, historical interest and beauty. Sharm El Sheikh, in Egypt is depressing, but a surprisingly good place to practice German. I don’t have a lot of time for the Algarve or for the Costa del Sol in Spain, but there’s still some charm obscured by the pub crawls.
But I still don’t get why people who supposedly like to travel want to spend time on the internet whining about places they don’t enjoy. Just get over it and go somewhere else.
>muh techbros are the reason san fran has a world class problem with feces on the streets
Why even bother with the rest of the post after that
the reason for street feces is meth and fentynal
>muh techbros are the reason san fran has a world class problem with feces on the streets
Never suggested anything of the sort. I meant that techbros and their lords and masters and the local pols who bend over backwards to accommodate them are a worse problem for SF than the homeless epidemic, drugs and shit in the streets and all (and there are still plenty of streets that have never been beshat and never will be, incidentally—homelessness and fentanyl and all that are undeniably awful but not truly omnipresent).
Tech money has exacerbated the homeless problem by driving up rents even higher and making housing the homeless inside city limits less and less realistic. But worse than that, the last few tech booms have driven out many of the creative and interesting people who made San Francisco a cool place to live. Tech kids pay the outlandish rents, maybe eat at some of the restaurants (although they’re more likely to make somebody broke deliver it), but they don’t contribute to or support local culture in meaningful ways. They do all their shopping online, so interesting local businesses die. They neither make art nor pay to look at, listen to, or watch it, so cultural offerings wither. They buy million-dollar glass box condos in former nightlife-rich neighborhoods and whine about noise, so music venues are wiped out.
And because SF politicians have spent decades now kissing big tech’s ass with tax advantages and other corporate welfare/handouts, the tech plutocrats have raked in more and more money to hide overseas while robbing the city of what could have been billions of dollars in tax and other revenues. So San Francisco becomes simultaneously more sterile and seedier.
Seems like the present economic downturn and techbro emigration might actually have a small corrective influence on this blight. But a lot of what used to be wonderful about SF is deeply rotten and may never recover. I’ll concede that
>And because SF politicians have spent decades now kissing big tech’s ass with tax advantages and other corporate welfare/handouts, the tech plutocrats have raked in more and more money to hide overseas while robbing the city of what could have been billions of dollars in tax and other revenues. So San Francisco becomes simultaneously more sterile and seedier.
oof
I thought this was a copypasta when reading the first paragraph. It reads like it was written by a living liberal stereotype. You even shoehorned in some seething about /misc/ for no reason.
can you recommend places in turkey and egypt you liked?
>and it’s never been as bad as its reputation agree. Most of San Fransisco proper is clean, the urban architecture is interesting, and the city is quite pleasant to explore.
>And the worst of it has nothing to do with homeless people or junkies or liberals or homosexuals, and more to do with libertarian-capitalist tech money.
disagree with this part - can you please explain what you mean by this? The largest issue in the bay area by far is the homeless population. Yes, the restrictive housing laws may have lead to the homeless population, but the homeless drug addicts ARE the problem.
People would hear that I lived near San Francisco and everyone would want to console me about the homeless problem. "Oh, it's so awful. How can you stand all the crime?" I lived on the other side of bridge in a town called Tiburon. It's like the 3rd wealthiest town in the US, and the second safest. My condo was right in the middle of this pic. It was one of the most amazing places I've ever been in my life. SF and Tiburon are less than 15 miles apart. Why are they so different? It's 100 percent the attitude towards the homeless. They don't tolerate them in Tiburon. When they occasionally show up across the bridge, a cop immediately picks them up and drives them right back across to the city.
the photo
Tiburon is great and everything you are saying is true. Marin is like a different planet compared to SF.
t. been visiting the bay regularly since 2008 and dated a girl who lived in Corte Madera for years
New report just came out in California that most new homeless people are priced-out seniors and elderly people. As for the mentally I’ll, thank Reagan when he was governor for that, he massively slashed spending on mental facilities and many were just let out onto the streets
I was just in LA last week. Literally EVERY homeless person in the city is homeless for exactly 2 reasons, Schizophrenia and drug addiction. There is no exception to that rule.
I live in LA, you are objectively incorrect
The facts don't support your feelings. The LA Times said that 67 percent of the homeless population in LA is either drug addicted, mentally ill, or both. One major UCLA study said that it was actually as high as 84 percent. The reason we can't fix the problem is because people don't want to admit what's actually causing it.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-07/homeless-population-mental-illness-disability
Mr. Nosestein said it's the goyims fault and has nothing to do with usury? Well that settles it.
>everything that disproves my beliefs is israeli propaganda reeeeeee
Post your rat claw.
Shut the frick up israelite
>Nearly all of Portland is a fricking tent city at this point.
The part that always gets me is the idiocy of town council & city planners not adapting to it. Instead of police raids stomping down the encampments & ejecting them to go frick up other parts of the city they might as well just give the squatters title and provide incentive to build a new neighbourhood
t.ontarian watched the same moronic dance play out here with municipal-level officials insisting our housing supply is enough when it clearly isnt.
They could at the very least keep them allocated along and under I5 instead of letting them be in every single fricking part of town. Idk if anyone has flown into PDX lately but if you come east to west you'll fly over two or three miles of camps/burned out rvs straight along Marine Dr
I like the portland hobos more than the people living the new soulless blackrock commieblocks. Portland is still top 5 nicest in the 50 biggest U.S cities.
>t. blue hair
I don't give a shit what anyone says, I love the PNW
>everything i dont like is israelites reeeeeeeeeee
>homeless people are crazy and addicted to drugs, which we determined after we found them being homeless
>this means they were 100% addicted to drugs and crazy before they were homeless, too
>there's absolutely nothing about being homeless that might lead a person to addiction or mental health issues, so we can safely conclude these problems predated their homelessness
>i am very smart
You don't have a clue how statistics works. This is literally a survivorship bias to the T.
> I was just in LA last week. Literally EVERY homeless person in the city is homeless for exactly 2 reasons, Schizophrenia and drug addiction.
You are indeed objectively incorrect, as poster with facts above points out. But I just wanted to say that drug addiction isn’t really a major driver of homelessness; lots of homeless people only get strung out after they’ve been out on the streets. It certainly doesn’t help any, but many of your crazy junkie homeless people and crazy shit-your-pants alcoholic homeless people started out just crazy. And all of the above categories of unhoused folks are outnumbered by people who are just extremely fricking poor and unlucky.
Samfeag. Rather than replying to yourself, why not post a source?
Here's the reality. The overwhelming majority of homelessness in LA is caused by drug addiction and mental illness. You won't read the UCLA study because you're lazy, but the largest homeless study ever was conducted in 2019 of 64,000 homeless people in LA.
Here were the key findings
78 percent of homeless people on the street in LA have mental health issues
75 percent of homeless people on the street in LA had substance abuse issues
African Americans make up 40 percent of the total homeless population in LA, but only 7 percent of the general population
Immigrants make up only 2 percent of the homeless population
https://abc7.com/ucla-study-homelessness-trauma-homeless-health-problem/5602130/
https://calmatters.org/explainers/californias-homelessness-crisis-explained/
Your data literally shows it's being homeless that makes them addicted and crazy. They almost certainly wind up crazy and addicted *after* they become homeless, not before. The fact that putting homeless people in shelters drastically reduces the rate of addiction and significantly reduces mental health issues proves that it's the homelessness causing the addiction and craziness, not the other way around.
Do you think having a home is more or less stable than being in a homeless shelter? Do you think rates of addiction and mental health issues would be lower in a home, in a homeless shelter, or being homeless? The data already answers part of that question for you.
You have no idea how statistics work, and also can't correctly interpret a graph.
You're making up shit again without posting a source.
One of the common characteristics of schizophrenia is that people who have it refuse treatment and are non-compliant with their medication. One study showed that 80 percent of schizophrenics stopped taking their prescribed medication after 2 years.
A lot of homeless shelters won't accept people who are actively using drugs or alcohol. All you have to do is sober up for a day and you'd have a place to sleep. You can't help people who refuse to be treated. They wouldn't be homeless if they would accept help.
I know you aren't reading these because you don't want to accept the truth, but maybe someone else will find it interesting.
https://www.wbur.org/news/2020/02/06/alcohol-drug-restrictions-homeless-shelters
Yeah i spend my life trying to get our guys to go into crash beds or shelters. The no drinking rule is what kills it. They'd all rather be blackout in the rain at -2°c than in a bed sober but that's the way it goes.
A different issue is that they all say drugs are pushed in shelters so if they want to stay clean they won't go in. Sometimes that's a lie as I've been told that by guys I've literally just given needles to but welcome to the mind of a homeless guy. Some of the shelters we have do push shit though, a lot are run by criminal gangs and if you don't buy you lose your bed. Something they complain about too is that you can turn up to a hostel wired out of your fricking head on coke and get a bed but turn up after half a bottle of vodka and you're not getting in the door. So in a sense that encourages drug use. But frankly they just don't care that much for the rules and routines of shelters and any excuse is constructed after the fact. Most just like getting obliterated on a door step and sleeping when they want.
Bizarre to you or me as sometimes they're willing choosing barely survivable conditions.
Oh, and there hasn't been any governor since then to increase spending? The current homeless crisis is the fault of a single Republican 50 years ago?
Highly doubt that's true. I work for a homelessness charity (not US though) and we're notorious for pumping out bullshit in news articles in order to wring funding out of morons. Had an article out at christmas that gave numbers that only made sense if literally a quarter of our city was homeless. The old people line was probably talking about people moving back in with their children.
>Turkey and Egypt
I unapologetically love Istanbul; there are few big cities anywhere on earth that can match its multilayered history. I’m also a big fan of a lot of the historical/archaeological sites there—Ephesus, Hieropolis, Göbekli Tepe, Mt. Nemrut, lots more. And I found the town of Selçuk very pleasant in its own right. In Egypt, it’s mostly about museums. But there’s some urban charm in Alexandria. Cairo is annoying in a lot of ways—traffic and smog are awful. But it’s not boring.
>San Francisco Problems
See above (
)
>Why do people bother posting these things?
>But I still don’t get why people who supposedly like to travel want to spend time on the internet whining about places they don’t enjoy. Just get over it and go somewhere else.
And then proceeds to write the longest post in the entire thread about the shitty places he's been. It's actually incredible to witness how far someones head can actually get into their own rectum
>But I still don’t get why people who supposedly like to travel want to spend time on the internet whining about places they don’t enjoy. Just get over it and go somewhere else.
I can say the same about you, who also likes to "spend time on the internet whining" since you knowingly come into a thread about a topic you didn't like, and proceed to write the equivalent of an organic spaghetti squash fart sniffing blog.
>Why do people bother posting these things?
>I'm *from* San fricking Francisco
Frick TERFs! #Resist #PunchANazi
>The worst hellholes I have ever personally visited have been empty, hollow commerce machines, fueled either by tourism or by other quasi-extractive industries. These include but are not limited to Las Vegas, Dubai, lots of the Caribbean, and at least half of Florida. Pattaya, the worst beach in Thailand and the ugliest town in a still-beautiful country, where the most vulgar underbelly of tourists get to pretend they’re normal. Cruise ship ports and resort towns catering to alcoholic British people fall pretty low on my personal list as well. Anywhere with a Señor Frog’s emporium. Kuşadası, Turkey, followed by Antalya, are the worst towns in a country with great richness, historical interest and beauty. Sharm El Sheikh, in Egypt is depressing, but a surprisingly good place to practice German. I don’t have a lot of time for the Algarve or for the Costa del Sol in Spain, but there’s still some charm obscured by the pub crawls.
Ironically, you are being classist and scoffing from your ivory tower in the Mission district for $7900/month rent. Cheap resorts that working class people go to because they can't afford to "go off the beaten track" and be a Real™ traveler like yourself who goes wine tasting in Baja on the weekends because you're *so* different and *so* travelled, right? Piece of shit.
>Ironically, you are being classist and scoffing from your ivory tower in the Mission district for $7900/month rent. Cheap resorts that working class people go to because they can't afford to "go off the beaten track" and be a Real™ traveler like yourself who goes wine tasting in Baja on the weekends because you're *so* different and *so* travelled, right? Piece of shit.
Resorts aren't traveling. You may as well just stay in your own country if that is the kind of vacation you are doing. It is beyond moronic to visit a foreign country and barely or never interact with any local business, restaurant or attend any cultural event because you either cheap, lazy or uncultured and want an all inclusive and hermetic experience.
Words flow from your mouth like shit from ass
And what of good solonious?
Based anon. I went to San Francisco on a business trip and expected a hellhole full of homeless people and needles everywhere. Didn’t have a single problem the entire time no walked around a bit. Saw a couple homeless people from far away but nothing bad at all. The worst problems of the city are the tech bros inflating
prices everywhere and literally clogging the streets with driverless cars. I saw it firsthand. I’ll give Florida a chance eventually but it seems like a soulless place full of boomers strip malls and gated communities
Absolute reddit post
> "hey the heckin' slums are vibrant and authentic. What I really hate are white tourists! Isn't it the worst when a brit drinks and sings? Oh sorry Onkonkwe, please have my wallet and linea dentata!"
Loudoun county, VA
Houston's third ward
Baton rouge
France
a few..
San antonio, TX.
North Las vegas, NV.
Jakarta, Indonesia just for the insufferable weather
Gisbourne, NZ. reminded me too much of south texas.. just that special kind of run down.
NYC just for pure human misery though.
>Gisbourne, NZ
Lmao there are a lot of depressing towns like that in NZ
Burnley. Never going on vacation there again
Houston, TX
Jesus fricking Christ the fact that nobody has mentioned this town yet speaks volumes. This is the 4th largest city in America and it Should not exist. The whole thing was built on a swamp so it floods every time it fricking rains. Speaking of weather, do you like sweating? We’ll come to Houston! It’s 90 fricking degrees 10 months of the year. But that’s not all, it’s ungodly humid here. Remember that part about being built on a swamp? Yeah, heat + humidity means RIP your ass crack. Now let’s talk about the city proper. The whole place is full of urban sprawl. Everything is so far away that you NEED a car here to live. You can drive for 1 hour in any direction and still be in Houston. LA might have the 405, but goddamit Houston has the worst fricking traffic of any city I’ve ever been to in America. Also the worst air quality in America. East Houston is full of chemical plants and oil refineries. Every once in a while one of them explodes, dumping a bunch of toxic chemicals in the air. But they bring in ~~*jobs*~~ so local government just ignores it and let’s them do whatever they want. But you want to know the absolute worst thing about Houston? What makes this city truly terrible?
The people
Houston is full of obese Mexicans who act like such buttholes all the time. The only people here who speak English are the obese Black folk who think they have some kind of “culture”. Nah sorry Houston “culture” is just a bunch of fat Black folk drinking cough syrup and playing records at 0.5x speed. There’s barely any white people left here, and they’re all either $0Y boys or migagays. This city was built with dirty oil money, and all the rich people here work for the oil industry. Houston has a long history of dirty deeds, from the bush family (yes that one) to Enron to the fricking Astros cheating scandal.
And yet despite all this, Houston somehow has this weird little brother complex about Dallas. Frick this goddamn town. Just nuke us already.
good food tho
Bidets are the solution to swamp ass
>Everything is so far away that you NEED a car here to live
Isn't it the case almost anywhere in the US?
houston is less dense than other cities like Dallas or Denver
Everything is so far away that you NEED a car here to live.
Thats most of the u.s you braindead troglodyte
Nuke south texas too
But out of spite
Manila
>Manila
why?
It’s pretty shit with all the poverty, homelessness, street children, rampant littering, shitty roads, shanties all over the place, pollution, noisy smoke-belching jeepneys and traffic jams all day long. I can understand his opinion.
But from my own experience it’s hardly the worst.
>Manila
Pasay or manila proper, sure
makati and BGC can be nice
Luanda, Angola
some really shitty slum
I like these kinds of shit tho
Dhaka was a hellhole. Lots of fun though. Beautiful surroundings even with all the unchecked development. I've crawled through shitholes all over Africa and Asia and this was the first place I've truly felt unsafe walking around at night. Morning of my flight I had to wade through waist-high flooded streets to get to the airport and ended up with dysentery. Also got the worst haircut of my life there.
Isn't it one of the greatest concentrations of wealth in Africa though? Must be some nice parts.
I had a roommate when I was in the Navy who was originally from Bangladesh. I was a naive 20-something who wanted to see the world and asked him the nicest place to visit in the country. He told me, "the airport" with a straight face. Apparently people will do truly desperate things just to get the frick out of Bangladesh
It's a toss up between Sarnia or London Ontario, Canada. Living or being anywhere near these dumps was the lowest point in my life. Two ugly cities with weirdo, creeps and idiots around every corner.
An Industrial town in Eastern Europe and China during winter is the most depressing thing you can experience.
Skid Row was as someone here put it already a zombie apocalypse, but not sure if it would be fair to mention it since there's some parts of LA that have the most beautiful neighborhoods I've ever see in my life.
I come from a poor part of the UK known for it's poverty, drug abuse, alcoholism and general urban decay so I thought I knew about shiteholes but holy frick absolutely nothing prepared me for the Philippines.
Gotta plug for the Shit parts of Philly like kensington and whatnot. Saw more concentrated misery and madness than anywhere else I've been on earth. Like some Warhammer 40k hive/judge dread level urban hellscape shit.
Mojave, CA was legitimately depressing to be in, as soon as you cross into Kern County from LA County, it changes real quick. Nothing going on there except drug abuse
There were a few bus stops in northern Romania that were like a time warp to 1980s Eastern Europe. Really desolate gray and depressing
Easy Richmond, VA looked very blighted and unsafe
san francisco was shit
my experience was great because I was paying out the ass on business but just around every corner was homelessness or a token degenerate homosexual or two
Palermo was filthy.
I was born and raised in Philly and now live out west, anyone who is putting a west coast city here is moronic. My answer would be St Louis, other than Philly it's the only place I've ever actually been scared for my life.
The scariest vagrant in Seattle, Portland or San Fran doesn't have shit on the average 13 year on in Philadelphia.
At least Philly trash knows how to poop indoors.
what do people here think about San Diego and surrounding area?
Melbourne, Australia during the gay marriage referendum. Everything was covered in rainbows with a big "YES" over the top like it was Mussolini's Italy, people were running around with no pants on yelling at those that gave dirty glances with "It's okay to be gay" making a big scene, children in kindergarten were reciting that love is love, every nightclub had gay day and everyone was basically forced to be on drugs. It just didn't feel right. The whole place had a demonic aura about it, and while I've been to some really impoverished shitholes in South East Asia where people live in open pit sewers and the children run around naked because they simply cannot afford pants this poverty was just depressing and didn't give Satanic vibes.
My first shithole was Manila and I thought it was really bad then, but after having visited India, Egypt and some US cities, it’s actually not that bad at all anymore.
Karachi, Pakistan. Never again!
Maybe I was in a shit part, but Niagara Falls (the city) felt really rough to me. Drove up to see the falls and stay a night there. Maybe I should've stayed in Buffalo.
Nah, that's Niagara Falls in general. The US side is hood as frick and the Canadian side is a dump too, just a tacky tourist trap. The actual falls and the visitors center are nice tho.
Agree with
. Niagara-on-the-Lake (Ontario) and Lewiston (New York) are much better towns to spend time in after you've visited the falls.
Paris 18ème
>What's the biggest hellhole youve been to?
Canada.
picrel, it's 50% poojeets in Toronto
Canadians are such loser buttholes. I hate Canadians with ever ounce of my being.
Datong, China. The air was so toxic it was horrible.
BRADFORD
I got banned from R*ddit the other day because this guy from the US was asking about Br*dford, asking if it’s a nice place to live since he had a job offer there.
I told him plainly, if you want to live somewhere that’s culturally Pakistani, where most of your neighbours are completely and utterly uninterested in confirming to wider society, where most women walk around in burkas and there’s a mosque around every corner, that’s fine but I don’t recommend it.
Got maybe 10 PMs calling me a filthy racist Islamophobe kek. It’s truly a sorry state of affairs when simply not wanting to live in a backwards, weird foreign Islamic culture makes you incompatible with modern English society
lmao the fact it's arab is the single most pertinent fact about Bradford
londonistan
Probably Egypt. Frick that place and frick Arabs.
I’ve heard Cairo is awful and the people are too
Cairo, Egypt.
But I have heard the stench in India is ridiculous and pervasive. Still no poo in the loo.
Frankfurt train station
Saint Denis, the Parisian suburb. I live in Balkan, travelled in many countries, but never seen such disgusting people and streets
Hamburg train station
Panama City. I don't know what I expected, I thought it was going to be somewhat developed from the shipping industry but oh was I wrong.
It's worse than any SEA city I've been to.
Liverpool, England (specifically the suburbs that aren't technically Liverpool)
Gary Indiana for sure. Flint Michigan was pretty rough too. Spent a decent amount of time in Detroit ghettos, it's fricked up but I think still has a lot of character so I like it.